Euro🇪🇺 Only Roads For Me Now - UK🇬🇧 Roads Are A JOKE🤡
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- What was supposed to be a 4 day UK & Scotland road trip was aborted on the first day. My Porsche Cayman 981 GT4 wasn't made for road surfaces like this. That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it.
I'd sooner stay at home than drive on roads like this again.
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I'm British Indian. 30 years ago when I got married I went to India for 5 weeks for a holiday. I came back and felt grateful to be back in the UK , even though I paid 40% income tax in a big chunk of money every year. The reasons I was grateful were
1. Great roads .
2. The police would turn up when needed
3. I could visit my GP anytime without an appointment .
4 a sense of security
5 yes, I paid a lot of tax, but felt it was worth it for all the public services we got - everything worked
6 a polite and respectful and decent public
Fast forward 30 years and I'm selling up and relocating abroad.
The pot holes are emblematic of a country in freefall.
Where are you moving too?
I have carbon fibre wheels and the state of the UK roads are at a point where they are ruining the fun of motoring. I use Waze to get notifications of potholes but as they're everywhere now, that's also fairly pointless. It's funny how the councils can spend millions creating bus lanes and road closures in cities that actually create more traffic problems but they can't fund proper maintenance of the existing roads. I hate to think what it must be like as a cyclist or motorbike rider.
UK isn’t the right place for decent cars anymore.
They also seem to have millions to spend on universally upgrading speed cameras, in Yorkshire.
It's got to the point where buyers choose cars based on their ability to deal with these roads, and manufacturers engineer features to cope with them, so the motorist is paying in multiple ways for the problem, whilst authorities do nothing.
I live up around Aberdeen, and the roads here are an absolute disgrace. But the councils would rather spend money on stupid tourism projects that nobody wanted, then turn around and say they don't have the money to fix the roads. Went over to the USA last October, and I don't think I encountered a single proper pothole until we got to the cities. The countryside outback roads were absolutely phenomenal, proper roads you could drive on. And if you had a sports car, have proper fun on. The UK government just don't care about drivers and cars, so they'll make driving as miserable of an experience as possible because they clearly don't care about driving or the citizens who use them.
How do we show our anger and disgust to our politicians?! How many of these councils close to bankruptcy too🤦🏼♂️
Utter disgrace 😢
Brilliant video Max my Cayman R handles the bumps quite well , but I find myself constantly looking down for those potholes, my wife’s Abarth is a different story if that hits the smallest of potholes it shakes your teeth out. For the amount of road tax we have to pay it’s shocking the state of our roads.
Keep up the great videos, cheers Lee.
Absolute disgrace these roads. I’m less worried about my comfort, even though it is not enjoyable, I just know this is not what these cars were designed for… I don’t have the money for anymore repairs and there is slim chance the council will pay up for damaged caused…
Potholes are terrible. Worst I’ve ever seen in over 30 years of driving in UK. First time ever I had to get recovered 2 weeks ago after pothole took out brand new PS4S on my Boxster. I was only doing 35 mph in Sussex, moved to miss one and ended up in bigger one.
Biggest problem is I’m now scanning road directly in front of car when driving, and less on what’s coming ahead in distance. Not good.
Sorry to hear what happened to you. I know what you mean about scanning the road…
It is a disgrace (plain & simple) most of us now use the Pot-Hole shuffle when driving just to try and save our vehicles from damage.
Yet we have untold millions (if not billions) to spend on this or that overseas and the hordes who arrive every day by dingy.
It is a scandal how much we pay in road fund tax only to have road maintenance ignored. Literally daylight robery
They call it a road tax, but we know the money isn’t spent on the roads
@@MAXREVS there’s also the question of where does the fuel duty and the VAT paid on it go?
Here we go again. The “Road fund” was abolished in about 1935. We pay Vehicle Tax for the privilege of using a car, and even then it’s based on pollution potential and ( up to now) electric cars pay nothing at all. Vehicle tax is part of general taxation and has nothing to do with roads.
@@MAXREVS It isn't a road tax. t's a vehicle tax based on emissions. It goes into the general tax pool.
The real issues are council wastage, and councils being forced to pick up the tab for spending that should be handled by central government.
“I felt particularly sorry for this Audi driver.” Well thats got to be a first, Audi drivers are the worst on U.K. roads.
This situation has been in the making for nearly half a century. 40-50 years ago a cross party political consensus came into being to allow the UK's non trunk roads to gradually deteriorate on the simple basis that due to the extensive tarmaccing of our road network post 1918, they were now deemed too expensive to maintain long term. You leave a main road at your peril nowadays and the situation is only going to get worse, alas.
Plenty of money for cycle paths and road calming though. Also heavily influenced by who complains, I live in Berkshire and the roads are terrible, but there has been a number of roads leading to very wealthy areas that have been resurfaced when they were in good condition. Very frustrating!
Sharing your frustration…😫
Exactly. Things get done for those who shout loudest or have the most publicly embarrassing problems. It's all about budget innit. Councils are inefficient and wasteful on their best days so despite high taxes they have to pick and choose what gets done. I can understand (but not condone) them doing the wealthy streets because if those people move away out of frustration then it will cause a bigger income hole to the council than the less rich abandoning ship would.
A trip to Radlet and St Albans proved very costly for my Cayman due to nasty craters on the road. The ugly state of our roads is a national scandal!!
Sorry to hear this. I know what this feels like. For now I will be using the car much less in the UK. You have no idea what to expect until you hit the roads. It’s like the game Wheel of Fortune… what will my spin land on? Deep pot hole, exposed drain cover, large chunks of stone debris from roads falling apart, if you’re really lucky a sharp edged crater with a tyre shredding edge… oh what fun this is🤬
Completely agree Max. Our roads are a bloody disgrace. The councils have completely lost control of them. Cheap fixes means they are constantly in a pour state. I have chosen to leave my 981 in the garage for most of the winter, purely as the roads are so bad. Makes it less enjoyable.
Could not agree more, Ive moved to France and when I re-visit the UK I curse the terrible road surfaces and the endless roadworks, whereas in France road repair teams seem to work around the clock.
I`ve never known a period when the roads have been this bad in the UK, it`s a disgrace! Spend your entire time dodging round pot holes and sunken grids. Totally get why you cut the road trip, short.
As I’ve got older I just got to do what’s right for me, without harming others. I just wasn’t feeling it. Road trips are there to be enjoyed, and this was hard work and potentially damaging to my car. Don’t care what anyone says, a Porsche 2 seater sports car isn’t made for roads like this. I’m sure if I stayed on for the trip the roads would have improved, but it wasn’t worth putting up with the bad roads just to enjoy the good ones. Future road trips will start on the Eurotunnel, road surfaces like 🥞😁
@@MAXREVS I understanding where you`re coming from. You finally get the opportunity to put your hard earned money into your dream car but it feels like torture every time you drive it. I`ve been toying with the idea of getting a sportscar myself, as a wknd escape. Hardly seems worth it now with condition of roads and the amount of road works there are! You have to be so mindful these days, when driving!
The subjects will accept whatever the UK plc owners see fit to provide. And they will pay their taxes and be grateful, as the life of a serf could always be worse.
mate not only for you uk roads are fu*king nightmare 80% potholes 70% uneven road surfaces 60% road paint markings not visible and if you have low profile rims it's a suicidal i have been driving in holland germany poland no compresent it's a different world shame for my tax money
The cultured stupidity and ignorant arrogance counting filled potholes as “a fix” is what ultimately crushed former communists states in Eastern Europe.
I find it quite astonishing the same idiotic ways flourishing in former high cultural countries as the UK, but also a symptom showing deep dysfunctional cracks proving poverty and corruption going rampant in the same speed a wet pothole spits out anything trying to be a member below surface.
The above said, I find it ironic Scotland having engineers by theory and practice documenting the importance of drainage of roads hundreds of years ago seemingly act clueless.
Personally have given up on UK roadtrips! The state of the roads is shocking, as you've pointed out, and the few decent roads around have had their speed limits cut and average speed cameras put on them. Porsche's are set up for smooth European tarmac, especially the GT products, it's well worth the cost of the Eurotunnel to experience them!
Fully agree. I can get into France in half the time it takes me to drive to Scotland on the EuroTunnel.
@@MAXREVSthen go to the frog eaters
Hey Max I have to watch out for these vehicle traps even in my van , let alone driving the Porsche …… Russian roulette comes to mind.
The neglect is deliberate so as to force more and more people to travel fewer miles until we are all confined to the 15-minute ghettos that Gates, Schwab et al have in mind for us.
Agree totally about the state of UK roads which are dreadful where I live on the Greater London/Surrey border near the M25. Didn't make for enjoyable driving in the Porsche 996 GT3 I owned for many years. Seems councils would rather spent money elsewhere and I think the situation is made worse by the number of SUV's on the road and EV's with their heavy batteries.
I’m not that far from you, J10 M25 is my closest exit. Roads are bad here but nothing like the roads on my recent road trip. I didn’t even complain about pot holes on the motorways when the outcomes could be far more dangerous.
One of the so called richest countries in the world, good job we have a government that looks after us.
Totally agree Max. Totally unacceptable. On private roads you should raise a complaint with the owners (hotel).
Call me a defeatist… the system is falling apart here, and do you think I could argue against their legal team?! I’m calling time on UK road trips… utter disgrace and my Porsche deserves better. It is a real achievement for me to purchase my dream car and it’s utter madness on my part to subject the car to poor roads like that. The engineers in Stuttgart must be laughing their ar5e5s off seeing their engineering being abused like this. Never again. Car is having a full under tray and arches removal, maybe it’s time to replace the wheel arches as they are original all around on the car. I don’t have nor like spending money on the car, but if I own the vehicle it has to maintained as perfect… this is my character defect…
100% agree driven all over Europe several times a year for 30 years Scottish roads are the worst.
It's not just the potholes it's loose surfaces as well in Scotland that wreck paintwork.
It exactly the same here in Ireland, its like its been done deliberately.
The UK roads coupled with the UK weather is a bad combination, I would have called it after a day aswell.
Looks f**king horrible my friend. Let's get back on the DE and CH roads this year!
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I feel the UK roads are only going to get worse, and not a chance of getting better
I bought myself a really nice oldish mini cooper that I can't really drive anywhere in it as the roads are so bad where I live (west kent)
Shocking roads. Weather doesn’t help this early in the season but you also do need to research the routes carefully. There are still some great sections of roads in the UK but it does require a decent bit of planning!
1 word SHOCKING
Stay away from south Devon, the majority of roads are like this
What a horror show, wow!
Absolute hell
Uk roads=awful I just refurbed a set 17 inch alloys with Goodyear Eagle F1s for my 987.2, really need 911 Dakar…
The roads are bad here. The solution is not to take an expensive car on them. This problem was avoidable and you would have had a better time driving where you know the roads are suitable for your car. 🤷🏻
reason i swear by steel wheels and soft suspension, next car still soft suspension but with alloy wheels but over time i may swap them out will see how they do. over 90% of my driving i choose to drive the back roads they are more enjoyable than big roads even if road surface is bad, worse the road slower you need to be and no damage. ive had fun on bad A roads when someone tried to push me through a town in car 3x the power of my car i decided have some fun kept it legal tho, my car steel wheels soft suspension good tires with a good wide wall and new brakes the bmw performance car could not keep up, he pushing so hard at one stage, prob getting frustrated he push to hard exit of a corner and lost back end he back down after that and even tho i slowed every corner i still gaining ground before long i did not see him at all. point im making no point having a very powerful car on tires what not suited as a cheap car can be faster and still just as much fun and less likely damage. ive hit potholes the first sec i thought i torn the wheel off it was hell of a hit but tire was not damaged and did another 1000 miles before i got home and when i did change the tyres all what needed was guy with hammer banging slight dent out tracking was only slightly out after that so did not effect tyres. these roads last roads we have freedom we pick speed whats safe not a limits what far below what safe what we see on many other big roads these roads you need to think and plan and read the roads well , real driving not roads nanny state holds your hands, id say even if some bad just enjoy them and as i have car whats good for these roads a small city car with good tyres high sidewall and soft suspension i can enjoy them more
And it's going to get a lot worse with a proliferation of cumbersome electric vehicles churning the delicate road surface to a pulp
COMPLETELY AGREE.. Would not feel comfortable in my GT4 on those roads… roads are a freaking disgrace, we are becoming a third world country, existing Government should be turned out asap.. completely incompetent as are many local councils.. sadly I see no one any better to replace them 🙁..
The problem is where all the parties are funnelling the money. Everywhere but the roads. Just a matter of time until a fatal accident due to poor roads…
The only time that Scotland will welcome you saying the UK, the snp claim that there are no problems on snp roads.
Potholes fair enough you have a point but complaining about the width of the roads you chose to drive on? Get real. Cornwall is full of tiny narrow lanes and we have no trouble squeezing through the tightest gaps. Maybe you just need to improve your driving? Or get a vehicle suitable for the kind of roads you want to drive on?
Potholes unacceptable in some areas, but stop buying silly low cars, wider and wider cars and as for low profile tyres!!
B Road, winding around hills, settlement to settlement, estate to farm.... not exactly built for your kind of car but if you went for the views you missed out there too.😂
only one back B road ive been on i thought this not a road and should been closed or 4x4 only. it was detour from a road closed i could went back and around that 15 mile, mid wales. i asked locals because start road looked bad how is the road they said a bit bumpy but it ok. it looked like a stage from dakar rally, loads dusts stones in the air, pot tar ended went to gravel then to mud dust track with holes so deep i was on three wheels at times, i was not only one using the road was people in full size vans too and they looked worried , further down the off road track we went through some woods climbing over roots crossing the road still dirt road, eventually it went back to gravel and tar further on down the road. it could been a rally stage that how it was, it was tho and sure challenged my driving as at that point been driving a week, never got stuck and understood my car if on three wheels i cannot stop i never get going as no locking diff so it judging for the right speed to get over but not too much or you get damage. day before my dashcams were installed as i would saved that footage it was challenging drive but id not call it a road it was a track at best. the only road ive ever been on what thought how on earth an i going to get through and this was a road closed detour to a main route it was insane, you car might struggled even getting through the first part road as big rocks in the road. since then ive taken my city car off road a lot more its quite enjoyable and so far never had damage or got stuck, pick your lines correct and correct speed you are all good. roads you really have to drive not just allow the car to drive you. if i was you get smaller wheels and tyres bigger sidewall just like sports and supper cars were like and im sure you have far more fun / enjoyment. they even make sports cas now what are dakar spec if you really want a sports car one those is a good option they do anything
Damn your story sounds bad. For such roads I need a beater car like our 90k Honda FRV not my GT4. Sad to hear all the horror stories from people in the comments, your tale seems to take the biscuit or should I say take the pot hole💩
@@MAXREVS the road / track was crazy but something not so common these days challenging so in two minds it was quite fun but had to plan well to not get damage, i feel a older sports car would be fine as many those from 90's and early 20's they have reasonable ride height clearance and tires with a good sidewall so think they handle bad roads much better and still give you just as much fun. that my thought on it. most sports cars designed for fast lap times so when things get bad you be faster in city car and be having more fun and when think about it that crazy but feel that true
you would had more fun in a MR2 Gen 3 they small light mid engine and have tyres what are normal, you driving a car with tyres suited for a track not uneven bumpy roads , even a gen 1 1997 lotus you be far better they designed for our roads what bumpy , pot holes, uneven they designed a car for our roads way back in 1997 and b roads back then were pretty bad then too
I was in harlow essex recently, and the roads are full of pot holes,absolute disgrace.
Need to start spending money putting things right in this country instead of illegal migrants!!
Country lanes. They don’t have them in Europe?
Rubbish weather and roads, pleased I was stuck at work.
🤣Hahahaha. Made the video simply to keep it real that not everyone has a great time in life on their days off work. As well as lost money on the hotels I will need a full arches and under-trays off clean to remove any debris and decontaminate as necessary.
Not great roads for wide sports cars
Corporate tax cuts leave less for what refular folks need, like roads.
If you support tax cuts, this is the result.
FFS! There is NO such thing as Road Tax in the UK!
You have to actually understand history to understand why UK roads are so tight in the countryside
Lol! Plonker 😄
Your vehicle is not suitable for those roads.