WRX Stock vs. COBB stage 1 tune vs. MAPerformance Stage 1+ tune
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- This video was filmed a little under a year ago
It is kind of choppy since I didn't finish editing it in so long. I kinda forgot what I was going for.
In any case this is a comparison between 0-60 times between the factory tune, Cobb's stage 1 off the shelf tune, and MAPerformance's Stage 1+ intake off the shelf tune. There is a drastic difference in the way the car drives between the three tunes. Each step is definitely an improvement over factory and I would recommend any option. However, in hind sight, an off the shelf tune is not a long term solution for upgrades. I later found out that my car was very unhappy with MAP stage 1+ tune and was knocking pretty severely due to an overly aggressive timing set up.
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Don’t dump the clutch. Slowly slip the clutch out until it grabs then release. Much better launches for you.
Right, it was kinda painful to watch him dump the clutch....
Do you mean, like ride the clutch a little bit vs dumping it?
LA_ANGELS yes
@@tomc6593 good to know! Thanks bro!
or better. dont launch at all. these cars are not meant for drag racing. want proof. watch some video.
After owning my 2016 for 5 years to get best launch rev to 4k launch, short shift 1st at 5k and take 2nd to 60. Thats how you get the low 5sec 0 to 60. I have played around with other WRX who don't know their car and they always think I have serious mods when my car is stock, totally stock limited edition...
5 years and stock? why
@@godsplannn warranty?
@@Recon_Racing subies warranty is dog doodoo
@@unrulybill depends what you worked out with the dealer, the standard drivetrain warranty is asscheeks.
@@phwn I’m saying in general with the time it takes to fix a issue. Car sits there for weeks on end without a loaner sometimes. I had a defective front right strut that needed to be replaced it took a week for the part and another week for the labor I could’ve done it myself.
Homeboy looks baked AF😂😂😂
allergies. I get too paranoid to smoke these days :(
@@austinfromtexas no doubt, great video btw man
@@austinfromtexas anxiety from weed no joke
9:13 best part of video
Glad you got away from that Hyundai! Wrx is looking good bud.
Dik
are you still having issues with the MAP? did you go back to cobb ots im about to buy one what do you recomend?
Good video. You got a lot of views and comments since you published this video...keep it up.
Honestly these cars are made for tumultuous hill descends and climbs so the boost is set for load, Uphill my non tuned wrx stays in boost until redline. Downhill almost all engine no boost.
Mine DAM has sat on 1 and hasn't even winked, the stage 1+ 93 map is amazing
Killer video brotha, that’s a huge difference honestly man. Btw next time try holding the traction control button in for 5 secs until the green trac mode goes away and see what ya think. That’s how I usually try my 0-60s n I get the best results. But great vid brotha
do you know differences between the three different modes? honestly curious
Holding the button turns off stability control as well as traction control, and just pressing it turns off traction control.
It affects the torque vectoring mode as well as it turns it off. I just feel as if I’m getting more power down to the ground and it’s not being hampered or held back from certain wheels. Idk just what I feel, I could be totally wrong. But yeah I do launches with it all turned off by holding the button for 5 secs
My shift linkage bunched up watching him shift
Thanks for helping me make this decision
Hell ya! Glad it helped!
From the time the intake was added on how long did it take to tune? was there a MAP already in place for it since it was OTS?
What is the MAPerformance intake? Just a cold air? Or an intake plenum? I just got a 2016 STI, will this benefit me? Thanks!
Is there a tune that just gets rid of the rev hang but doesnt add power? I am not trying to do any power mods until I do all the reliability parts installed.
Cobb has a stage 0 OTS tune I believe it just gets rid of the rev hang
@@ericgarcia3588 nice that’s literally all i want
Nice vid. I just purchased a new wrx. Would you say this just evenly distributes the power and torque or is there also a discernable horsepower gain to the stock vehicle?
There is a hp gain of around 40 to the wheels I believe if you have stage 1+
Awesome man. Thank man!!
Should I remap my Levorg? It's 1,6 liter turbo. Ofc it's 4wd and CVT auto.
I want to get a stage 1 tune but I’m worried that it will void my warranty. I’m 18 so I’d rather go the safe route and keep my warranty
I voided my warranty treated my care terribly and blue my engine that’s a good choice. If you do modify it just do all the things you need to do
im 38 and still worried about my warranty on my 2017 wrx !
Effectively, those using its Accesstuner Software system will no longer be able to run anything that could be considered a "delete tune." That means anything that bypasses emissions components like O2 sensors or EGR parts is no longer considered kosher (I took this from the article) 😭 from Cobb
I got the stage 2 exeddy 3 puck clutch and the car handles the power much better through shifts and launch...but untill you burn off that initial clutch surface, simply stop and going makes car vibrate like a jackhammer lol
Yessss me too💀 I've never heard anyone else with that
I heard the 0 to 60 on the Cobb isnt very accurate.
Really nice video man. I have a 2021 WRX and love it. These are true rally cars so on twisty roads and in and out of lanes especially on gravel and wet surface the WRX, even though it’s not the fastest it will outperform any mustang dodge charger or Camaro as these are straight rear wheel, drive muscle cars. On a straight line they can eat a WRX for breakfast anytime bet on twisty roads and in and out of traffic hands-down to the WRX so I would takeoff gently and then punch it and switch gears at your desire RPMs, again if you want a real fast car get a muscle car but this WRX has everything in one package handling performance, all wheel drive bc is a sexy performance car.😎👍
Great video!
Use launch control for your launches, I was able to hit 0-60 in 4.7 sec in my 17 wrx with stage 1
don’t do it too often tho clutch will shit itslef
Hey man. Is the MAP performance tunenon the cobb access port ?
Cheers
that take off bro.. ouch 5:57
Let him get adjusted to it
Did your stock intake snorkel wear away the paint (to the bare metal) at the mounting points/tabs on the radiator support? My 1yo wrx is currently suffering from this issue...
Not that I noticed
I have my first WRX and am considering getting the access port. I have a question: do I need to get the car tuned in a dyno after getting the access port? or will the access port be enough ?
I have heard many things when it comes to access ports.
There are pre-made tunes, often called off the shelf tune/map, by COBB so no Dyno tuning is required when just going Stage 1.
These tunes aren't perfect as each engine is a little different so it isn't as dialled in as what a Dyno tune, sometimes called a pro-tune, will get you but when just running stage 1 you'll see negligible differences from getting a Dyno tune and the off the shelf.
@@tro_b0t Thanks for the reply!
Came across this too been eyeballing a wrx how has yours been reliable wise since you’ve had it? 😀
@@tro_b0tI read the description and got kinda confused if it was even worth looking at this but this answered what I was looking for as a well 🔥🔥😊
Did you do the stage 1+ without the actual intake?
Did you have any mods before doing the stage 1 tune?
Do you have to keep COBB connected or you can remove it after you install the costume map?
you can remove it once you have the map installed
You can remove it but most people keep it on to monitor the digital gauges
Still rocking 1+ or ots? How’s the car handling it??
The way you shift, it's kinda painful
Can I get a MAPerformance exhaust and tune with a Cobb intake or will I lose any power?
You cant since Map said it only works with there stuff. I have stage 2 with Maps intake and down pipe and there tune on my 2018 sti and still on it and have been on it for about a year.
@@alendjurdjevic6900 how are you liking it so far? I here they MAP tune is better than Cobb but I like the Cobb intake look better which is why I was asking
How is this supposed to work with 'push button' cars?
i just bought a 2021 wrx limited today off burnet in Austin HA
Was this with the stock exhaust? And stock everything except just for tune?
stock, vs ots tune, vs ots tune plus intake
Can you run stage 1 on a stock wrx with a cat back?
Not sure you should probably check with Cobb
yea
that 6:15 POPPP
To me mapperformance map is good for low rpm boost, nice if you wanna feel the pull, the v361 it's for hight boost between 3k and 5.5k rpm and the last update v400 it's for boost between 4.25k to 6.5k rpm and you even get the loud pop from back fire at high rmp and you can't get it on the other tines except the v400. I'm on stage 1 +bigSF 91 . What every one else thinks ???????
Cobb put's a big torque curve were it makes you think it's doing something, which it's way better than stock; however the MAPerformance tunes are very linear, they don't feel as torque or "fast" because they took the time to tune the whole Rev range
does the maperformance work with 202 wrx
Did you have traction control on?
I did haha. XD like a dummy
short shifter install next?
just get a protune/etune. ots maps are garbage. go with Ron Watson at Phatbotti tuning.
He’s super expensive it’s 450 for a ots tune
@@subiegang4917 you get what you pay for. He's one of the top tuners out there. His tunes go on sale regularly.
Where/how do you get a pro tune ?
I got dyno tuned not long after this video was filmed
I really want to get protuned but I have to drive hours for it
Someone please teach me how to launch my wrx! My last sports car was a trans am and im used to reving up and dumping the clutch and rollin! I dumped it in my wrx and it sucked! I need to know what rpm should i be at to launch! Dont laugh,this is my first awd,and first turbo. Im sure some of you guys are familiar with it. I just got mine so......
I just do pulls on the highway. I’m all good with replacing stuff. Learned that lesson from my 06 impreza. Wouldn’t mind doing an upgrade like this if it still passes inspections with it all.
Personally I hold the traction control button for a few seconds to make sure it's all the way off then hold the rpms at around 4500 to 5k then letting off the clutch is somewhere between dumping it and being gentle. You'll feel that balance as you practice
So the deal with the wrx is its sensitive to drive. The clutch bite point is critical here. The trick is feather the gas and slip the clutch until it grabs, then smooth release while gassing. (No need to feather once she grabs)
Should have used the launch control setting 🙄
nice
Just need to work on launch I was doing 4.8 seconds but launching at 5500-6000 rpm but I was crazy hard on my clutch. I was stage 1
not possible
@@foxracing125a how I was launching at 6000 rpm
It is definitly possible, I have a catback and stage 1 cobb tune and i hit 4.8 consistantly
yeah i wish i was that quick with my 2020 wrx but this one is lifted and on all terrains lol. this makes me miss my 2015. my 2015 wrx was the one that did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds, my 2020 one with map stage 1 does about 6.2 seconds but only because i have all terrains with a full size spare all my tools and traction boards and recovery gear. i have like 500 extra lbs in it daily now. so now im slow lol.
@@RoelLopez92 nah yall bugging
Access port is not well known for 0-60 or 1/4 times. Not reliable
all depends on the start. it's dying on you😁
Is that a stage 1 Cobb on complete stock or does have intake? I want a Cobb for the idle hang is it ok to do tuner without mods?
You can go stage 1 tune with a bone stock car. (AOS or catback exhaust are fine). In order to go stage 1+ you must have an intake. If you use the cobb tune you must have the Cobb intake. Same applies for MAperformance. This way the tune and intake match. Hope this was helpful and if you’re on the fence about doing it just do it. Worth every dime!
Traut Media could I do the same with the V2 accessport on my 2002 bugeye?
Traut Media and what if I have an HKS air intake with the stock exhaust?
casimero tagle most companies that realease ots tunes require you to use their intakes so you don’t mix and match. So you could either get a Cobb intake and use their tune through the V2 accessport as they create the tune for their specific parts. Your other option would be to pay a pro tuner to create a custom tune for you based on the parts you have which would allow you to mix and match. Hope this was helpful and it’s cool that you have a Bugeye!
Traut Media thank you very much! The car is still a work in progress because it was vandalized previously but it’s running in good shape!
No cyber banging guys .
knocking bad on map1+?
Michael H my little brother has the stage 1+ on his and it runs the same but I can tell the boost difference
My car was knocking on MAP and Cobb
I got the cobb stage 2 big sf 91 octane map, no knock, car runs perfect. MAP exhaust, Cobb exhaust is too quiet
@@johnryan8466 so do you run 93 on the 91 map? Or 91?
Armand Rivamonte -Young if you bought the map tune start keeping data logs and send it to them. They can help make the tune better suit your car if you’re having knock issues.
Replace driver rerun tests.
What’s the difference of the cobb intake and Maperformance?
Maperformance is more aggressive compared to Cobb
Interesting 🤔
Stage 1 + is enough for the car to launch and accelerate fast. Stage 2 would break the engine
if done properly without a protune it works just fine but with that much money maybe you should’ve just gotten something else lol
@@phwn nah I am good after doing stage 1. Just don't want to break the engine especially if it my second car being safe
bruh on 4000rpm my turbo comes on on my 2003 sti
these wrxs are twin scroll turbo much more torque on the low end but suffer on the high end without a tune
wind out 2nd gear more and your 0-60 will be in low 5s
If you're getting a 7 second 0-60 on a AWD car you're a horrible driver. When i had the maperformance stage 1 tune it totally shits on the cobb OTS tune top end. I kind of want to see how accurate the 0-60 feature is with my stage 3 setup..
Awww is someone upset that their little Honda shitbox covered in bondo and virgin tears can’t keep up with a nice clean new WRX?
@@jessel1217 i have a stage 3 WRX dumbass, Learn to read lls!!
Jesse L are you even old enough to drive)
Fernie M - I’m old enough to the point that I’m using Rogaine twice daily.
Lol relax it's not that serious
he’s like dying of heat or something lol
Your hole shot seems weak. Thanks for the video.
Waste of MONEY and TIME
Bye bye clutch. Lol
1 year later, still no problems
What year is the car
A beginner 45hp 400cc bike would destroy this car