The Top 10 Pay To Win Bull$#!@
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- There are a lot of unwritten rules in esports. Always teabag a fallen opponent, never bet on the best team going into TI, never taunt before you get the kill. But the most important one is this:
Never pay to win.
When you can buy a messed up skin, broken character or some other awful boost, the competitive integrity of a game goes out the window.
So let’s take a look at the worst cases of this with the Top 10 Pay to Win Bullshit.
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The fact FIFA isn't #1 baffles me. The entire "eSport" is pay-to-win in a game that has a high amount of RNG.
Should barely be considered a game. I don't know why FIFA fans still give EA the time of day tbh, it's disgusting from an outsider's perspective.
@@xenocheeze6633 I literally just sold my coins this year to get back the money I spend on the game. Didn't lose a dime, got market banned but I really couldn't care less. The game is so awful, has been awful for many years and nothing changes. Offline modes are not worked on, there has been a bug in Career that has been there SINCE THE CURRENT GEN LAUNCHED. They didn't fix a goddamn bug in an entire consoles lifespan. It truly is disgusting.
Is it even a surprise? EA and all sports games are Pay to win.
@@royfablooo2810 There are other gamemodes ya know. For example Pro Clubs, EA's NHL has EASHL which are far better gamemodes for an ACTUAL eSport rather than Ultimate team.
Yeah it's far far worse than anything else. How the fuck are ember rise skins (which really only affected like one map in certain spots) ahead of Fifa?
"Pay a few bucks and win your local tournament for free"
I'm no mathematician, but this doesn't add up..
you pay to win and get paid to win
You get your money back and more.
free is relative, even if the skin wouldnt cost any money you could still argue that it cost time to be there at the tournement and therefore it also not "free" because you have to pay time.
You pay a few bucks to receive maybe three times more than what you spent.
As you siad , you no mathematician....
They forgot the Prime Vandal skin in Valorant. Everyone knows that skin makes the Vandal 50% more accurate then the default Vandal skin.
Lmao you serious ?
@@mouadelghazouani4652 of course not. It’s just a joke in the community
I swear that skin gives you aimbot
@@mouadelghazouani4652 it gives better bullet tracers, although they are not accurate, it certainly feels easier to shoot
skins make you play better
"Pay to win is bullshit THIS year!", has he been sleeping during the past 10 iterations of the same copy paste football game ?
Don't know which is worse: the same copypasted shit with pay to win mechanics or the idiots who still support it
@@markrobless6245 both lmao
@@markrobless6245 but mark fifa add new stuff once in a while for each game its just they don't update much when the actual game is released
@@markrobless6245 I'm surprised there are these so called FIFA "Pro's"
it got worse bay bee
Fifa Ultimate Team is basically Pay to Win-The Game
Hopefully Pes or somebody can make a free for all version of FUT
@@priyamgupta1911 that’d just be divisons lmao
To be more precise, it's "Gamble your money to win-The Game"
Literally any sport game that has a card trading system*
Pay to Pay*
Guy: -Spent $3500 on fifa-
Tournament reward: $200
Guy: -Not Stonks-
new fifa game: releases
guy that has to spend all of it again: P A I N
@@agent00nothing35 *SPAIN
With that amount spent, it would be better to get another College degree
@@kholi9441 *university
@@Muhammad-lq7fu In America those are called Colleges.
As it applies to shooting games: this is why applying to the army does not match the stereotypical image. CAMOUFLAGE WORKS BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO.
you're saying the military should have camo but, in a tactical shooter, being basically invisible? you never played the game huh
@@waaar32 that's not the point
@@waaar32 and it's totally ironic that in a "tactical" shooter you can't be camouflaged, they made a CAMOUFLAGE SKIN, and being practically invisible is what camouflages do...
@@yuhan4469 This is never close to military rofl, its a game. And many people and hopefully you can also distinguish the difference. The reason why people rage is because it robs them of their rank and mmr with zero counterplay. In real wars, camouflage can easily be detected. If they couldn't, all wars will be one sided stomp. But in the game, the developers didnt make any counterplay.
@@user-hm7nv2wu7w I'm not defending the people who use the skins because they are indeed bullshit, I'm just stating what "camos" are for and it would be better to not make them in the first place
How many league skins have been pay to win?
All of the ones that change the animations.
Dont ask me
Ask my wallet
Some skins can make it hard to identify or see certain abilities, however the impact in league is generally negligible.
There are pay to lose skins
I picked skin with same map color.
How is fifa not the first? Is not a character, skin or a seasonal thing that will be solve, is A HOLE GAME (GAMES, every release of Fifa means you have to spent all that again)
I guess it not really being an Esport made it lose spots...
@@PatJ_or_Tom ...wut
Its probably due to being NA
I can't believe that FIFA Esports still exists to this day, knowing that FIFA game franchises is nothing more than a credit card machine with a football.
@@PatJ_or_Tom is not even a real esoprt anymore
Never laughed so hard in my life when I heard "fifa pro player"
why ?
there is also professional scenes for all kinds of gambling like poker for example
@@ROMANOFF103 not gonna lie, a pro football player, on a device really?
Indd😂 stupid asf
@@ROMANOFF103 yeah and we laugh at that too 😂
Poker is F2P, while fifa is P2PP2W
imagine if they somehow got olofboost in this
Or the cold awp
You gotta pay for a defuse kit or awp they for sure could’ve been in
@@anthonymanzo9767 yeah but valve would never do that
lmfaooooo
@@anthonymanzo9767 don't be a loser, bring a defuser
"The pay to win is crazy this year."
No it's like that every year.
Honorable Mention: There was a reinhardt skin in overwatch (football skin from summer games) that had a shorter sound cue for earth shatter and it was really hard to hear so it made it much easier to land big earthshatters
But its not p2w, its just a skin, you arent gonna buy it with real money
@@enemyunderscore3987 you do realize the majority of this video is about skins with advantages, right?
@@walmartheadset4270 you do realize it’s for payed skins right
@@walmartheadset4270 skins with advantage with actual money involved. It literally says *pay* to win
@@shubham_marathe you can buy loot boxes in ow to get the skin too
Honorable mention to the Roze skin in Warzone.
That’s what I was thinking
NGL as op as they seem from an outsider perspective (I don't play CS:GO), those camo skins are sick for being accurate and functional like actual military camouflage.
Fact, but they changed a game drastically since csgo isnt your regular 1st person shooter where u need actual camouflage
You kill so quickly in cs, that even if it takes half second more for your brain to register that person, you lose the fight. That’s the problem tbh.
11:32 Ashe hitbox so broken he turned into Kermit
EA sports is messed up man, I swear
Apricate you guys making this list, players need to know what pay-2-win looks like so they can call out the companies putting this bullshit into their game.
Great job!
Playing against Smash 4 bayo in tournaments was a special kind of stressful.
For real, and that was after the nerds which were enough to make any other character bad. Vanilla Bayo was even more of a monster….
At this point, anyone still playing FIFA deserves to get milked for every dollar that EA can squeeze out of them.
Career is still very good
You can always cheat stupid people, this is similar to scams and should be illegal
@@wqeasd7107 how are they cheating people? They made a product and the prices are clearly states. Would you prefer the government set their prices?
@@wannabegamer9902 if you start a lottery there would still be people who would buy it if it wasn't ilegal. Same principle.
You forgot about World of Tanks... PZ 2 J, SU 76I, bourrasque, OBJ 279e, TS-5 etc
I'll agree with the first one. Others are beatable.
Can't wait for WG to finally make it so that you have to think, aim and flank instead of just switching to HE.
I think you forgot to mention premium ammo.
@@polyacov_yury well, SU 76I can beat Pz 2 J in seconds and has insane DPM, I would say its even more overpowered. OBJ 279e is dumb, that tank should not exist, hulldown monster.
Premium consumables, premium ammo, premium tanks, premium crew, premium equipment, premium account and the list goes on
I absolutely hate the Smasher and Anni, the smasher is a broken KV-2, meanwhile the Anni.... we don’t talk about that.
The fact that the entire existence of Clash Royale League wasn't even mentioned even though that whole-ass game is hopelessly pay to win.
I've never seen anyone complain about that blitz skin
Do you exclusively frequent r/blitzcrankmains?
youre prob not old enough lol
Isn’t this skin forbidden in competitive? If I am not mistaken.
I remember me and my friends complaining about it way back. I think 2013-2014, back when I was still in high school. I didn't even browse lol related forums or watched lol vids/streams but still have heard a lot of people complain in our local community (computer cafes)
Ur too young my guy lol
I feel like the blitz and ashe exampls aren't even their main problem, they've always had a lollipop shaped hitbox and is also present on their base skins
Blitz skin has a smaller hook compared to his default skin. It is a problem. Ashe btw is hella bugged in all skins.
I don't play league, but I assume part of the learning curve is, essentially, accointing for slightly-off hitboxes in the vanilla skins. For example, the arrow/fist hitboxes might not match the animation, but you eventually get a feel for how much distance you need to keep from the model to avoid getting hit. If the skin changes the overall size of the model, but not the hitbox, then your intuitions about where the hitbox ends compared to the model are no longer applicable.
Also, a smaller model can make it harder to even see the projectile in the middle of a teamfight.
Ahahaha yes I was expecting to see Leroy on this list ;)
How could you not expect Leroy
Still hate Leroy's guts. He has too many tools. 😂😂
@@Athuril that plus Leroy players being toxic
@@riceu6693 tell me about it bro. Ki charging every round they win then win quitting after one game. No run backs 😑
HS?
There was a skin released on Apex in Season 5 or 6 called Marble Goddess. Was a Wraith skin.
It was pay to win for a short while, because it had broken hit boxes where you’d occasionally shoot her dead on, but no damage would be done (no reg).
It was technically a bug and did get patched, but many in the community abused it while it was broken.
Some league skins change the animation of the characters, to the point where it can feel easier to play them, especially while csing. High noon Ashe is a decent example.
Not for me highnoon skins is kinda heavy for me im more like elderwood and project skins they smooth as hell
When you dont care about your controller but have an expensive af headset: 12:54
I know this isn’t too bad but I remember in Overwatch when they added a Reinhart skin that changed the soundcue of his ult and it was basically impossible to block his shatter
s4 reactive flatline skin in apex definitely makes this list. not only it is ptw, it's also a limited time offer too. if you started to play in s5, too bad!
Tencent: wow finally something I’m familiar with
I'm surprised the league skins never revealed the bigger issue with the game, the hitboxes have always been broken. At least compared to any moba's, watch any game and slow it down, you'll see a considerable amount of skillshots that look off, but still seem to hit. It's horrible once you start noticing it.
i know the prime vandal in valorant is good, but nothing is as good as the reaver vandal, the tracers are THICC and literally increases your accuracy by way more than the prime in my opinion
It's crazy how everyone Talks about how fifa is pay to win but no one does anything against it
Yeah, like anyone can do something about it at all
actually there's a case filed about that thing, i forgot the name but there's a youtube channel that covered the case
@@dainsle yongyea
Didnt EA get sued for stuff like this. Governments literally working together.
I think an honorable mention goes to the Peacekeeper for Black Ops 2. It was the first ever dlc weapon and one release was the best gun in the game till they eventually nerfed it.
This Is The 7th week in a row you’ve shown Smash 4 Bayo In Class.
Don’t forget the apex legends wraith skin that made it literally impossible to headshot
FIFA should be number 1 on any p2w list ever made. It's not an item, or a character, or a skin. It's the entire game that's p2w lol
0:58 that would be so fun trolling, sad I missed it
Mac 10 on warzone : *HAHAHA KILLS GO BRRRRRRRRRRRR*
Mac 10 on counter strike : *I CANT HIT THEM ;--;*
didn't expect leroy to be on there he was such an pain
Leroy was expected
@@kamisatoayato1311 true he was really op
Although I agree with your picks, you guys should have included the infamous Rose Skin in Warzone that makes any person harder to hit and see. Just saying, a pretty big pay to win.
He forgot about Reaver, Prime, and glitchpop Vandals we all know the true powers they hold.
prime is well rounded it improves everything, reaver makes you more accurate, glitchpop makes you do more damage along with the elder flame skins
The Glitchpop Odin make you shot through entire map!
Glitchpop 🤮
In Tekken, everyone has already been saying that the DLC characters should be accessible at least for practice, then it went in to outright complaining when Season 3 came.
I like that they used lolhounds video
I dont get why competitive fps games dont just add extremely high visibility highlights on enemy players like valorant did, or even brighter. Why should we worry about monitor settings and such when this could so easily be fixed for everyone??
The beauty of Rocket League. If you’re average and spend money items, you’re still average. No advantage to spending cash, just a great game
Wow fifa on a ptw list never knew this
FIFA needing such insane levels of unlocks to get a half decent team is the sole reason I've never picked up the game, despite liking football games in general. If I like a game with a competitive scene I typically want to play it, get good at it, and play competitively - but why would I want to try a game where if I like it, I'm either going to be hamstrung by not wanting to pay, or have to pay a tonne to keep up?
This should just be a list of 10 Korean MMOs
Chinese*
@@yassou9319 Korean MMOs are games with pay-to-win in them. Chinese MMOs are pay-to-wins with an approximation of a game in them.
I mean to be fair, only a few MMO’s don’t have pay to win (or pay to get currency which gets you advantages or accelerates the game for you in some way) but there are definitely some games that are way worse in this aspect though.
Channel : *talking about games with their OP stuff*
Rise of Kingdoms : "Hold my Attila and Takeda commanders as well as my 14+ years of research to max out everything"
Why it is OP and P2W : Attila can give 30% in both Normal and Counter attack damage and reduces enemy attack by 50%, Extra 10% damage and reduces enemy attack more by 25%, enemy skill damage reduced by 15%, extra cavalry speed by 15% and Extra Cavalry attack by 40%, has 4 possibilities for a skill 1 in 2 no extra damage 1 in 4 extra 50% damage and 1 in 4 is double damage. And when you max Attila you get an expertise skill which is "Troops led by Attila are immune to Silence effects. Against enemy troops with less than 50% strength, increases damage dealt by 20%. Increases March Speed by 50% for 3 seconds after leaving the battle."
Takeda : Active skill increases attack by 50%, extra Cavalry attack bonus of 40% extra speed by 30%, extra Cavalry defense of 40% heal of 250, enemy skill damage 5% reduction, enemy's both normal and counter attack damage reduced by 30% and if maxed you get expertise skill with an extra 30% if it is debuffed by a certain debuff.
P2W part : To even get these commanders you need 10 of these heads, Takeda can be get by WoF (Wheel of Fortune) and Attila can be get by MGE (Mightiest governor event) MGE is super hard because there'll be a lot of players that actually want it and you probably will have to contribute so much to your kingdom to convince your leader to give you 1st place in MGE, Takeda you can spin WoF for gems (the superior currency of the game) which is less intense than competing in MGE but still costs a bunch of gems. You can also get golden heads to switch to commander heads to upgrade, you'll need almost 700 golden heads to max out a commander, you can get it mostly in events that is very competitive but will probably give you 20-100 gold heads but if you win 1st place in a very big event called Kingdom vs Kingdom you'll get probably 500 gold heads if you and your alliances, kingdom, coalition or camp. But ofc you'll probably have to spends tens of thousands of USD to do that, there is a thing called VIP and max VIP will get daily gold heads of 3 everyday. But it'll need a more than 1,000,000 points and 1 VIP point is worth 1 Gem, 200 gems = $1, meaning you'll have to spend around $5,000 to get max VIP but you'll have to wait almost 500 days of daily login to get the required amount of golden heads to do it.
That blitzcrank and ashe had aim assist turned on.
FUT pay to win is so prominent, there's a special name for unpaid accounts (Road to Glory)
is this a reupload? it feels like we've already seen a video like this. unless this one exist to call out EA and their bullshit
I think you're talking about the banned skin in esports
Dont you worry. Been watching these guys for a long time they like to repackage videos they already have and send them back out just put together differently. Trust me look at their older videos they dont do it that much these days....which is saying something but more often then not you will see the same 2-5 videos that have the same clips or content in it that you already seen a billion times. You got no idea how many times they done stuff like "top 5 mistakes in esports" just to find its the same 3/4 clips with just a single new one added in that you seen in the last installment
The new FIFA games are really just an update for the previous game. It’s actually unbelievable that all of your past spent money just gets wiped after a year of playing a game. Imagine having to spend 5k+ USD in order to even have a chance of sucess. EA should be ashamed
what even is that blitzcrank one, its the entire character that has phantom hooks not the skin
The whole champion has hitbox issues (though it has improved), but the Iblitzcrank hook is physically smaller than the regular one hence the frustration. Also it’s invisible in ARAM but that’s besides the point.
Not just blitzcrank, but all of those that has hook skills, like thresh and nautilus.
2:13 isn't even about the phantom hook, but rather just how broken the hitbox on it, phasing through minions to hook that Jinx who's between three of them.
3:03 HEY THATS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheScore: "The Top 10 Pay To Win Bull$#!@"
Gacha gamers: " Amateurs"
The worst example of pay to win definately has to be the original Combat Arms from Nexon Games.
A PvP game where all the weapons with the best stats in the game were exclusively locked behind a premium currency store. Skin advantages are one thing, but to literally sell a major weapon stat advantages only to people who pay, definately takes the trophy for worst kind of pay to win game you can find.
The one I am affected the most by is definetally the CSGO player skins. I got killed alot of times by now because I didnt see a player with a skin. It's legit the most bullshit they ever released for the game
Yea its a serious esports game it should be consistant even skins imo should be personal for example an awp could be canoflagued and not get picked up or the other way around
Chrysler K, World of Tanks.
A tank that not only carried a cannon that highly encouraged use of 'premium' ammunition to buff it's armour piercing to something useful, but also had very strong armour versus normal AP rounds.
While premium ammunition can just be bought by ingame credits rather than real money, it costs quite a bit of ingame currency. This heavily encourages the use of either special tanks bought with real money that have a built in credit booster, or premium time that boosts credit income and also costs real money.
It's a sneaky underhanded tactic, and caused a massive shitstorm in the game's community.
I hated having to waiting a year after release to play Leroy as he was too broken for Season 3
the mac 10 one wasn’t even the first time lol
cw guns had the base model nerfed but with the right attachments it would still be op
I actually enjoyed the squad building aspect of FIFA ultimate team. I loved finding niche links with the chemistry system and taking undervalued players. I've also always enjoyed football so I thought, why not pick up a FIFA game? So, I played FIFA 16 and 17 without spending anything on FIFA points however, I could never compete against the best teams. In FIFA 18, I spent an amount of money that I'm not entirely comfortable disclosing online on packs. I can say, they're incredibly addictive and I stopped playing the following year because even though I had a fantastic team and I was winning, I'd experienced the system for what it was. If you pay, you win. No thanks.
The sad part of that story is you started at FIFA 16 which is when FUT really started to be pay to win. In the earlier games, it was possible to play lower-rated teams and win due to skill. Fifa 13 and 14 had a really good Bronze and Silver team community that would play much more varied teams and still be viable. That just doesn't happen in the last few games.
the fact that common people didnt know is point blank is the number 1 pay2win games in this entire universe. change my mind
dead game
dunno, but that game still have so many players in my country
Are u from asia? Philippines
yup
I’m happy that tekken fans didn’t have to go thru sm4sh bayo for very long
With the amount of DLCs that break a game, you have to start assuming game companies are doing this on purpose to cause people to panic and buy something as to not be at a disadvantage. After they've made enough money, they will nerf it and apologize.
*insert all of hearthstone here*
Understandable have a nice day.
Didn’t buy FIFA this year after 6 years of torture in FUT. Glad to say my mental health has improved so much this year :)
I remember that Evo Tournament.
#6 since the mac10 was on tier 95 some people dropped around a hundred bucks on tiers to have the gun before it got patched.
12:08 pay a few BUCKS and win your local for FREE
What is this dude smokin lol
Just because Bayo is broken doesn’t mean you’ll win effortlessly.
I once played a game by Ubisoft called Ghost Recon Phantoms. 10 tiers of guns whose stats got better in every way as you progressed. Each one cost, say, 1000 in-game currency, but you only earned a maximum of 50 currency per game (with paid-for premium boosters) on a win. The weapons in gun packs (which you had to pay for) were better than ones you could earn in-game. And the biggest offender of them all: premium ammo which not only gave your gun increased damage, but also gave you twice the ammo capacity.
Totally broken, would have loved to see it get balanced, but yeah; I hate Ubisoft now
I was waiting for PRIME VANDAL to show up in this list😂
The Leroy Smith has me cracking up so hard!
Pay to win = Fifa in a nutshell including that you´re buying the same game every year for the same price, so not only pay to win but also an annual ripoff
It has become a drug addiction of sorts at this point
1999-2010: People Focus on making fun game.
2011-2021: People Focus on making a game to milk Money.
The way this man pronounces Gallantry at 6:41 made me double take.
"I can't believe it!!" *proceeds to walk away in disgust* lmao Anomaly do the funny
"This game if p2w from up to bottom"
Put fifa at number 8..
WTF
"Pay to win"
EA: S T O N K S
Me getting all them headshot coz of the buff of the prime and elderflame vandal lol
What about the roze skin in warzone. All the ttv’s were sweating with that for so long until it somewhat slowed down.
"Honorable mention: the olof boost"
Honestly, FIFA needs to be higher. Pretty much every other game had a problem with either skins or new OP characters and some of them even have been rectified but FIFA is designed to be a P2W from the start.
If Tarkov is not on this list I am going to rage.
how is tarkov p2w at all please explain
one world: *credits*
@@timothyyoung65 You automatically get rep with traders which opens up trades for you way earlier, you get a larger stash which means you have more room to store quest items which us normie account chuds have to sell to make space, slowing us down on progression, and you have a larger secure container off the bat meaning you are guaranteed to be able to take more value out of raids even when you die. Plus you get way more guns/equipment every wipe to start with.
I'm surprised we didn't see RL in it's early years of the Batmobile.
It was never pay to win. Almost 1 mill concurrent players each day btw
@@dragonshima_5162 you were invisible with batmobile when it came
@@aespee1 oh dang. Never knew this! Thank you!
Itough dota2 would be in the list, seems like the game are still balanced.
Dota 2 aint more like a p2w game though. Its a pay 2 entertain lol.
I was expecting Leroy or any of season 3's last 2 chars.
Turns out Leroy is here.
iBlitzcrank fan :D
But just why
I played Leona in aram and had a phantom hook, well after a heimerdonger flashed away
If Raid Shadow Legends is not on this list I am going to unsubscribe and dislike.
My little cousin beating people with teams full of legends in Fifa with his team of bronzes...
"Never bet the best team on TI" I felt it, lost half my inventory because of that lol
its weird how every tactical shooter that has character skin,there is a camo skin. and when they are working as it should be,the dev would be pikachu face
Wow...there's two things from Riot on here. Can't wait for the fighting game to come out! You guys're gonna have a LOT more list entries from that I guarantee.
Aside from that, I would consider one of the newer champs, Senna, her skins to be P2W. It's minor, but her passive causes souls to drop and the default skin's souls it's difficult to tell which is new and which are gonna expire. Yet her two other skins have clear visual indicators for expiration of those souls.
I mean atleast it doesn't affect any stats just visual
@@krustbruh8841 oh yeah, wait until something like this happens to you in an important ranked match
''he simply cant handle it'' in the clip at the end of the video lmao
One game genre that's comes to my mind when they say "Pay-to-Win" Fighting Games. They will release a new character and made it OP and after a few weeks they will nerf it.
Yes I'm talking to you MK11
They forgot COD AW obsidian steed, inferno, speakeasy, literally every elite gun in the game
Don't forget the season 4 apex BP flatline skins. Iron sights were so broken
8:37 that's the feeling of American troops in Vietnam wars