2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV review | Wheels Australia
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- The new-gen Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is finally here. We drove it recently on track, but now we're out on the road where it belongs. What do you think, will it be on your shopping list? FULL STORY: www.whichcar.c...
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Mitsubishi Advertised range is 84 km EV range
52 miles EV Range!!! in New Zealand & Australia, for the new Outlander PHEV. .
We got 7 people (5 Adults and 2 large Teenagers). Mother n law in the back, she loved it.
Outlander PHEV has similar V8 power 450 newton meters of torque but uses no petrol most days in EV mode. Awesome SUV!
its no where near a V8 lol
There's no air vents in 3rd row? Hard to imagine all 7 travel comfortably in hot weather.
Outlander PHEV Silent instant V8 power and no gear changes as only one gear!
Comparing the Outlanders instant grunt to our V8 Mustang where the power is more when you floor it.
Charging range fluctuates everyday. We got 100 km range but other days it was 98km, 87km 84km, then 94 km.
Depends on "do you feel lucky today"
It has V8 power which is fun but scares the shit out of the kids. But when you go to Jail time speeds over 140kph it turns into a medium 4 cylinder to 200kph.
@@cooljool1 It definitely has V8 power upto 140kph awesome .
But it turns to a 4 cylinder upto 200kph.
This review highlights that plugin hybrids benefit from the improvement in battery technology. With 20kWh battery the range covers most urban driving quietly and without smog. The larger battery is also capable of a higher peak output, and this review indicates that the battery has sufficient peak output to power electric acceleration in most normal daily driving.
Please don’t compare with Found On Road Dead lol. Just bought the 40th edition as I have to say there is no other comparison in an overall package, let me say I was looking from Toyota’s through Mercedes and ended up with this vehicle. We can nitpick certain qualities but Mitsubishi being made in Japan, reliably, high end luxuries it’s a no brainer. One thing I would say is it took me about a month to learn how to drive this vehicle in all modes and am pleasantly surprised on how this is such a bargain ! Let’s say I leave my GX460 just to hop in this one :)
Coming from owning latest X3 and Benz E43, if I was looking for a worry free family car, this one would be on top of my list. It looks fantastic!
By far better fuel economy, where I think the new gen phev outlander takes it out right and still offering more than enough acceleration power on the road.
I just drove a bmw x6 twin turbo the other day, boi was that thing thirsty on the motorway. And broke down on me and went on limp mode because the high pressure fuel pump went faulty.
“Looks fantastic”?
Looks more like a dogs breakfast imo 😬
What is wrong with you? Thank God you got no profile pic.
@@roryreddog3258 Did you know that styling is subjective?
@@roryreddog3258 Rory Reddog? Dog’s breakfast? You must live in a dog world.
Test drove it a week ago. Very nice interior. Love it. Quiet ride and it has better suspension compare to the gas model.
Points for summing up the power train as a more premium experience/performance rather than just focusing on the price difference in terms of petrol savings. Thanks
Went for a test drive and it was fantastic. Great review.
Great unbiased review , mitusbishi should have not gone with 20" wheels. I think they should have gone with 17" and more tire wall. 20 inch rims are never good on rough roads. Going with a smaller rim size would have also improved acceleration as well.
The outlander phev has a factory 0-100 acceleration of 8.2 seconds but when tested in the real world it does 0-100 in 7.9 seconds exceeding mitusbishi factory numbers.
The drive train in the outlander phev is also pure mitusbishi, it does not use any of nissan power train in the phev version. The eclipse cross and outlander phev are pure Mitsubishi.
Outlander Phev just feels like a V8 with break neck acceleration. Comparing with my V8 Mustang. Maybe the Mustang could beat it top speed.
The Outlander is a big SUV.
Mate are for real??? I'm no mustang fan but srsly
The car weight 2.1 ton. 20 inch wheels is definitely not overly exaggerated, rather it offers better crusing and handling on the road. We've already seen new owners putting 22s on, it chews more gas but still, its not difficult.
@@anthonygraham2815 Anthony...the V8 Mustang does 0-100kph in 4.6 secs, the Outlander on a good day does 8 secs. That's a big difference mate🤔 We're talking chalk and cheese 😐
@@53glowe 0-60kph is the most useful acceleration range and EVs tend to own this zone in day-to-day realistic and effortless driving over a V8 bouncing off the rev limiter and dropping the clutch. Our little i3 leaves most vehicles lingering in the rear-view mirror at the lights and you don't look and sound like a twat when you do it ;)
I did some research online and discovered that the older models of the Outlander had issues with battery degradation. I'm curious to know if these problems have been addressed in the 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander. Has the battery degradation issue been resolved for this model?
????? Does it still have the [old PHEV 2013-21 ] BMU problems that simulated batteries degrade and has to be reseted in shop . Or that problem is fixed
does it have a thermal management system for the battery?
What is the combined range (full tank + 100% battery) of this vehicule, I tried to find an info but couldnt find anything on the net for the 2023 version ....
its about 600kms`640kms or so if you say start with a full tank of petrol and full charged battery.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi wait thats a terrible range. i was expecting closer to 800-1000km
Honest review. Nice job.
does this car have the V2L option?
Same battery size but this has 20km more of estimated battery range from the Canadian model!
Looks really good with a black roof.
If the electric motors alone are rated at 185 kw (85kw front / 100kw rear), does the ICE not add any power in parallel hybrid mode? In the RAV4 Prime, the electric motors alone are about 174kw (134kw front / 40kw rear) though total rated output is 225kw. So, 51kw from ICE in parallel hybrid mode.
None of the reviews do a good job of explaining the powertrain but I believe the ICE is just used as a generator for the electric motors. The ICE is not directly connected to the wheels.
@@09Birkin This video explains how the system works, but there might have been changes for 2023. ua-cam.com/video/7aQZU1Y5Iuc/v-deo.html
Total output is 450 newtons of torque and 185 kw plus a boost. It has serious V8 power upto about 140kph then it turns into a 4 cylinder power to 180kph.
Basically it feels like a V8 upto legal top end speeds.
Planning to buy a fully loaded 2023 Outlander PHEV Exceed Tourer.
Look, can we just start calling them FEVs? Rolls off the tongue soooo much better than Pee Aych Eee Vee.
At least he says aitch and not hhhhhaitch
Why not engine rotation charging the battery instead of electric grid plug in's ??? 🤷🏿♂️.
It a real shame mitsubushi left Europe this car would be a great seller here. They could not supply enough of the old phev to meet the demand abd yet they gave up on Europe. Crazy
Times been hard for all car manufacturers to get parts.
This phev was sold out on release in Japan. Here in NZ we were the second place to get them in pre order, and we waited 4 month for ours to arrive.
Europe are in favour with their own brands, especially they have some of the most recognised car brands in the world.
In general you might find that mitsubishi doesn't have a very popular name in Europe or America.
In Canada it`s $51.000 for top line
Does the one pedal diving combine with the adaptive cruise?
Thank you for the review, Can you let me know if you can leave the car “on” hybrid parked and let the battery run the Air Conditioning with the exception of the when the battery gets low and have the motor run for a few minutes to charge it back up. I have enjoyed this feature with a Prius and Tesla. Frankly it is great for leaving your dog in the car parked and keep him cool and safe?
Thank your, Best
the overseas japanese model has this ability, even with only 20% battery.
when the battery is down, what is the l/100km? is it better then the 1st generation that turn around 8l/100?
My first generation is 6.8l/100km on the highway.
All depends on your driving style and also how you use the mods. But if it's on pure hybrid mode, I've seen between 6-7l per 100km. But you have to ask yourself how often do you do more than 80km in one day. Because if you do, you should be looking at options like small turbo diesel.
did you actually get 84km on EV only before it becomes hybrid?
In the US, it will be a $14k difference from the top models, but it has only a 38 mile/61 Kilometers on electric.......that is way too much to pay. You might have to own the vehicle 15 years before you break even with gasoline savings.
in real world people getting much better numbers that what was officially posted, i guess its because of the weight 7 passengers test they gave different number but in reality people getting close to 100 kms just check at your local place.
While the vehicle has a hill decent feature, could the innovative pedal mode aid in controlling decent speed?
The big question here, is return on investment. For $16,000 more than the petrol version, how many klms do you need to drive before you break even with the petrol version. The answer, as provided by engineer and car expert John Cadogan, is between 60-70k klms (based on using EV mode as much as practicable). That's the point when most car owners change their vehicle anyway over on a 5yr loan. So unless you intend to operate the car many years beyond that, you will lose on depreciation because of battery degradation. So where is the return on investment on the extra $16,000....interesting question isn't it 🤔
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The PHEV is a different car to the petrol version in terms of handling and performance. Its like saying what's the return in investment between the regular Tiguan and Tiguan R. If you're worry about return on investment, then a 2010 Honda Fit is the better choice, gets you from A to B without spending so much money.
The 16k premium sounds excessive. Nevertheless, the fuel savings will be over the lifetime of the vehicle which is much more than 70k km. The first owner will see that reflected in the resale value, so the eye watering premium for the PHEV might not be daft even for the first owner.
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 what's the return in investment between the regular Tiguan and Tiguan R?
That is the same question everyone complaining about Tesla/or other EV (ohh 70K, its 30K more expensive than Camry, im not going to get my money back)
its more about caring the environment + tail pipe emission, not the $ wise.
Well just go buy Camry then.
unfortunately until they found a new energy storage (Lithium is still expensive/KG ) , we kinda stuck with this expensive option.
i believe in the next 5 years, there should be more affordable options for Hybrid/EV.
Was hoping to see the HUD, reversing camera and other safety features, like lane assist, blind spot detection etc - not even mentioned in 18+mins (I believe at least SOME of those features are there - even if not - it's worth saying that they are NOT there). Instead told about "power" about 50 times. :(
When is this new model available in the UK? Mitsubishi uk still only have the old version on sale.
I am in Namibia, how much will i put together to earn one for myself, converting to Namibian dollar? I want the 2023
Can it be charged to 100% and emptied to 0%?
How did you find the Eco Mode if you have ever given it a try to drive around? Thank you.
no mention of spare tyre or standard tools, how could he forget about that?!?
Was told by garage won’t be available for 15months 🙈
not due in australia for at least 12 months, why doesnt he mention that?
I was hoping that Mitsubishi would improve the frontal look on this updated version.
You can't please everyone. But funny enough you say that, because I personally don't mind it and what's even more interesting, I've had more people checking out my new outlander than my GTO.
@@davidyang577 interesting ☺️
Where can I test drive this car?
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At McDonalds you turnip
Where . Haven't seen one In WA yet and wanting to test drive one .
Thanks for the review! Does it have ventilated front seats? What about vehicle to grid tech? Like powering your home via a bi-directional charging system, similar to the F150 lighting.
Yes, the seats are heated and ventilated and offer a massage function as well. And yes, the car has a bi-directional programmable electrical system, allowing you to for example charge from your rooftop solar during the day, and then power your house from sundown...
@@matejpribelsky can you please show me where the seats are ventilated??? I have yet to see this...
@@anthonyg8435 I have just downloaded and checked the entire brochure for the Outlander, and none of the models seem to have ventiladed seats. Aspire and up have heated front seats.
About the V2G/V2H, all PHEV versions say they are compatible 🎉
Great review team, just wondering if you add accessories like changing to 20" black rims or adding the lower body kit (the rear, side and corner garnishes as what Mitsu calls them) will it add to the weight and overall affect the EV performance?
it would make it a very rough harsh ride. Its a very heavy car so if you mess up and smack a pothole or kerb with those giant rims or even the standard rims, be prepared to have the rim damaged or buckled and need replacement.
Well presented video. I am tossing between outlander and Kia’s sorrento PHEV. Which one would you prefer?
My advice, take them both for a nice long test drive.
Look it this way. there's a reason why Mitsubishi is the leader in phev. they started the venture since 2013 and their R&D is all about making it better than before. This is the third gen phev Mitsubishi have brought out, and the only SUV in the world that doesn't use a transmission and that equates to one less major component that requires servicing or break down.
The Sorento is larger and more luxurious, but also costs another $12,000 AUD on top of the Outlander Exceed Tourer
@@matejpribelsky sprento interior is sub par imo, wasn't Audi or Mercedes good. Suspension turning wasnt as sharp and responsive. Battery is 40% smaller, Has a dumb auto transmission with a 1.6l force induction engine rather a more reliable NA ice.
It doesn't have 1500w 24v output.
And it's actually 18k dollars more.
Not saying it didn't drive well but I think it's still one generation behind when it comes to drivetran.
I just completed test drive of both the vehicles. The driving experience is great. However, in terms of proper 7 seating the third row is completely useless. Additionally, Sorento does not have curtain air bags for the third row which is mostly designed for children. How about 2022 Nissan Pathfinder? It will be available for a test drive from November 2022 approximately.
@@kashyappatel9431 I hear you, but unfortunately to get a proper 7 seater in general, I was actually looking at family vans that were hybrid. Because none other offers hybrid nevermind phev.
Toyota Velfire comes in awd hybrid but its not cheap at over 140k.
Otherwise you may have to go diesel route.
Reviews are all bringing up the the suspension absorbtion not been quite refined, but I'm yet to experience that in our phev and we are NZ. Our roads have so many bumps and potholes.
Supposedly the PHEV suspension is better than the petrol-only models too
When ralliart versions coming with more power
only downside is not having a spare wheel of any sort.
very rarely do you ever get a puncture these days with todays tyre technolgy.never had a puncture in 15 years
I have a vehicle with no spare and inflation kit only. Total nightmare if you get a decent puncture as inflation kits are useless
It needs smaller wheels, and less body roll. Its softer than the petrol version but its like an old falcon or commodore on boy racer huge wheels.
Does the EV range drop significantly over the years? How much range is expected after 8 years for example ?
How can they possibly answer that for a brand new car?
The previous model reported battery degradation but this is an entirely new system so nobody can say for sure what to expect at this point in time.
The old Outlander PHEV has had issues with its battery management software while the GM Volt EREV/PHEV has not. Generally, a PHEV should have less battery degradation than a BEV because it has larger top and bottom buffers. That is a one of the advantages of a PHEV.
I am tossing between this car and Mazda cx60 PHEV
@@bipinsharma1887 same here. I think I’m leaning more towards the CX-60 though.
Think about it, Do you have any rechargable tool in your house or workshop that doesnt do that? Because these cars have the exact same batteries as cordless drills. ITs a lottery wheather you get a good pack with all good cells.
In the charge mode, it is mentioned that the petrol engine can be used as a generator to charge the batteries on the roll. Do you have any idea what the output of the onboard generator is in KW? I can find no specs on the generator anywhere. Thanks.
im pretty sure it takes about 90 minutes to fully charge the pack, using the engine.
Aaaarrrggghh why has Mitsubishi not got lane keep in Australia and only assist...
You tell me if the 17k higher price point is worth it over a petrol equivalent. How many kms do I have to drive in the ev to breakeven? I will wait.......
Pss: the answer is at least 55,000-65000kms or 6-7 years of driving in Full ev mode
You obviously have some insight into the future cost of fuel..
You're missing that this drive train is also waaay better than the petrol version.
Fair point but consider that the fuel savings will be over the lifetime of the vehicle. The first owner should see that reflected in the resale value. Hence the extra depreciation cost compared to the gas guzzling version might not be daft compared to the fuel savings, even for the first owner.
People buy them more so as not to pollute than to save a few bucks IMHO.
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8 seconds is so slowwww.. and 6hrs on a wallbox must be wrong or its got a tiny inverter.. gosh. Such a pity for a car with so much potential
Not really a great advancement in 10 years. Why use an old 2.4L engine? Surely an efficient 1.6 turbo would do the job?
16k premium is just too much and would take a while to break even before making your money back in savings. also the poxxy small screen is horrible.
What is the infatuation with big wheels from manufacturers?
The car weights 2.1 tons.
@@davidyang577 and? What on earth are you taking about?
@@ravingmad765 it gives it better road handling and help these modern big suv to turn corners swiftly like a sports car and hugging the road on big bends.
I wonder if the vehicle would have been better in terms of ride quality if it were fitted with 19 inch rims.
Nissan made a great job with the Mitsubishi Outlander
Better thanRav4
This aint a nissan , the outlander phev has pure Mitsubishi drive train , 4b12 ,2.4 mivec engine and mitusbishi electric motors. The x-trail e power is pure nissan with a 1.5 turbo 3 cylinder and nissan e power electric motors
@@warcrabcyber9908 what about the chassis?
@@mrfrancy0154 the chasis is a shared with nissan, but the drive train is Mitsubishi. It's different from kia and hyundai that share the same drivetrain and platform.
@@warcrabcyber9908 that’s why the new PHEV is so good, one of the best engines ever made.
Plug in ,,, no good. Hybrid would have been better.
This has got to be one of the ugliest cars ever made. Imagine you have a date and you appear with...this.
I think most cars look like someone took a streamlining design and then blew it up to look like a ridiculous bubble. The space inefficiency alone for such a design is frustraiting.
This design is a breath of fresh air to me compared to that. Doesnt look like a metal bubble.
Also women are known to judge you poorly for owning brand new hyper efficient large SUV's, with serious torque. acceleration, and a greater than 50k price tag.
I just dont see where your comming from.
@@Elemblue2 taste. You show up in this and it tells the woman that you are into ugly. Therefore if you want her she will feel ugly.
Have owned this car for 2 months and it is fantastic!
Whereabouts are you? I rang my local Aussie dealer and was told ~18 months wait time!
"Power train complexity"? It's far more simple than a conventional ICE vehicle. It does not have a CVT or a conventional manual or automatic transmission.
The 2.4L is a well sorted and very dependable engine.
Too lazy to flip out the rear seats to show us? Thats why you're at 40k subs mate.
First time looking at a phev. Would you say if you travel less than 80km daily and do the odd long trip on the weekends/holidays would that mean you would use petrol mainly on those long trips only?
I have a 2020 Outlander Phev. The EV range is around 40km. The engine only comes on if you really rev it or need the heater in winter which sucks. I have driven over 3000km b4 on one tank due to free charging at work & shopping centres. A warning light came on saying to add fuel to prevent damage to fuel system / prevent the fuel going off.
Juice again. No physics in school, so these guys can be put only to bring food, to drive Uber, to sell bagels in the winter, outside, jobs like that. A little bit more technical job: he would fail short.
Damn!...I would have bought one if it had softer suspension, c5 aircross it is 👍
Does it have a light clutch?
Very light, in fact it's so light that it's non existent😂
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Total bullshit range claims, you wont get 1000kms on a tank, you will get if your VERY lucky maybe 600ish kms range and it drinks fuel ie 8 to 9 L per hundred. I have NO idea how they can claim 1.3l/100kms unless they only drive 100kms stop, fully recharge the battery and claim the engine only used 1,3l in that single 100kms. Because if for example you do lets say a normal aussie drive of 400kms it Is SO inefficient. 9l per 100... sure its less than the petrol. But thats normal petrol suv ALSO the actual range depends of the battery depends on temperatures etc so you wont always get 83kms range, expect 60 to 90 if your lucky while new. They should have ditched the two useless rear seats that no one other than a legless paraplegic midget could use (seriously) and either put a bigger fuel tank or put extra batteries in that spot. Its absolutely stupid having those tow extra seats, you cant see out the rear with them up and if you do move the middle row up to give the leg room, then both rows need to be carrying midgets. Ie an teenage kid wont be comfortable and the access is atrocious to get in and out of there. If you have and accident, they aint getting out in a rush.