I love how Yuno straight up calls out the audience for projecting all these assumptions about who she is and painting her as a naive/tragic character, just like we're making all these assumptions and theorizing what everyone else's deal is based in the minimal information we have. She feels annoyed that the entire basis for forgiveness is how much we sympathize/like the character; she doesn't need or want that. She's a young adult fully in control of her own life and choices, not a victim forced to make a difficult choice. Honestly I'm pretty sure that's a big part of why she had an even bigger margin voting her innocent this time around; people respect that she was upfront about her feelings and showed that she was self aware about her situation.
@ForgettablePerson He killed a girl who unfriended him once she was old enough to realize what Haruka is Edit: I'm not sure who he killed anymore mf is faceblind AND mute
Yuno sounds like a thrill seeker who would do anything to feel something because she felt barely anything. Or at least that's how it sounds to me since she emphasize that she want it to be interesting and hate it when it become boring or annoying. The feeling of nothingness is scary coz it could make you do anything just to feel something.
I find it interesting that some people seem to think she’s some sort of psychopath after this drama because of her attitude… if I was stuck in a prison and judged like her (and of course had her awareness of the flaws of society and others’ judgements of oneself) I’d be pissed too
I like her even more at this point... She's the most sane person in the room for this trial, and her borderline impartial insights are huge info for us to look at. Especially with what's happening to Amane and Shidou, and how Mahiru is literally at her breaking point.
She even comments in the TL that Mahiru shouldn't even be in Milgram. Which I feel is a huge hint towards how Mahiru's crime went down. Which is interesting because she even calls out Kazui in a later TL post where she cuts the bullshit and is like "Ya know, the difference between our lying is... you lie for yourself and I lie for no one. Because I believe no one is important, not even myself." Sounds like Kazui is getting on Yuno's nerves a bit.
She's probably upset with the audience making up some idealized version of her because that's what her clients did. She had to act out the person of their dreams, go along with whatever person they wanted her to be. And she's had enough of that.
This is why I'm so interested in what discussions are happening with the Japanese fanbase. Even though Yuno was voted Innocent it seems like the reasons behind the vote were somewhat different over there.
@@abbym11111 Well what Es confirmed as their reason behind the innocent vote was probably what the Japanese fanbase was voting based on. Assuming Yuno is pitiable, etc.
@@sanwich626 I have seen women characters in other parts of Asia an dam a lot of people think of women being so weak in some way theirs many stories where its all about oh no she was ruined because she was such a humble an small women but here comes a rich guy to give her some wings
I think it was because Yuno's first trial happened at a time when Milgram was mostly known by the jap fanbase, so the international fanbase didn't had much of a chance to discus about her, and well, japanese morals are quite different... There is also the way how many asian people like to portray women like fragile and weak and pitiable
Yeah because unlike America, Japan is not pro-abortion and thinks it's an evil practice if not done for medically necessary purposes. This is why the Japanese were primarily focusing on the fact that she is very young and innocent placing her into more of a childlike sentiment for psychological justification of abortion which would be deemed as fair in Japanese society. But her scamming men for sex and then aborting babies like they are trash is seen as tantamount to murder over there. A lot of Americans voted her innocent simply because they think abortion should be available on demand at any stage for any reason including convenience. So they voted using their western sensibilities of abortion and didn't think about how the Japanese viewed abortion. Since MILGRAM is a Japanese project they really only looked at the Japanese comments and maybe looked at only a handful of English comments. Since most of the Japanese comments were about her being a child still and using that as justification for the abortions (despite being illegal in Japan) that's probably why her response was the way it was. Obviously this topic is a hot button issue in the United States with multiple extremes across the political spectrum so it's not like the Japanese are going to 100% understand all of the stances and take them into account for her situation. But I do think a lot of the western fanbase needs to leave their cultural bias at the door and look at these characters as Japanese in Japanese society dealing with Japanese attitudes and realities instead of just voting a way that agrees with their western political stance. Abortion needs medical justification in Japan from a doctor and consent from the baby daddy. She had neither so the Abortion was tantamount to murder of a baby in Japan. Basically Yuno is the Japanese version of Alexee Trevizo. Killing a baby she knew was going to be born simply not to deal with the consequences of her own actions (sex before she was ready). The justification some are using is that these girls are too young and scared to understand how messed up it is to kill a baby to protect themselves and simply panicked about the situation. And we see where that idea has led to in MILGRAM.
I don’t think Yuno thinks her abortion is makes her guilty, but she hates that she would be forgiven for being perceived as a child who was taken advantage of. Of course abortion shouldn’t make her guilty of murder in any case, but does the fact that she knew exactly what she was doing change that? I read that the age of adulthood in Japan was just lowered from 20 to 18 this year, so Yuno is legally an adult now. But I wonder what people’s opinion of her would be if she was 20 years old from the start. I wonder if the writers are trying to stray from just the abortion and go more into the business of prostitution and rental girlfriends itself.
I mean Es's limbs were broken in the shot in Undercover, and limbs usually grow that big in around the second trimester of pregnancy so Yuno was almost certainly underage when her child was conceive. I'm pro-life to the core, but I don't think abortion warrants jail. Especially not when statuory rape is involved. Edit: Combining the information from her birthday and the MILGRAM portal she was indeed 18
This isnt true. Its trying to get us to vote with our emotions instead of logic. The writers want us to vote her guilty, she even said in her MV that she wants to be voted guilty. However we voted her innocent, it feels like the writers knew they would do such a thing, that people would vote innocent because they view her as a "queen" or something similar. Jackalope always tries to lead us to vote with our emotions instead of logic, we know hes sadistic. So he knows something bad will happen in the end if we do vote with our emotions, which is exactly what happened with yuno. People are looking into favoring the character rather than actually taking their sins into account. Because Millgram validated her once again in the second trial, I'd see that either Prisoner no 10 or Prisoner no 08 might do something to yuno in the third trial.
@riverthecrybaby9448 Sorry if I'm trying to spread misinfo as I am new. Correct me if I'm wrong ^^ If I remember correctly, she said she has done *many* abortions, some people who voted her guilty stated that, even though they're a pro-choice, they find it annoying that Yuno has done many abortions, which could be avoided with many ways such as birth control pills (I think some of the community know she is aware that she has done multiple seggs just because she wanted to "satisfy lonely men" and "doing this out of free will", I know that minors cannot consent (she has done this before she turned 18) but I do find it pretty confusing that she did this out of "free will" and "just wanted to satisfy lonely men" (my theory is that she also did this out of "curiousity") and didn't think of the consequences, plus, she has done this many times and seems like she got used to it, which is pretty concerning for someone who just turned adult like her (iirc she's 18)). And do keep in mind that abortion is expensive as hell (could cost around $600-$2,000 in the US), if she got paid to do a rent-a-girlfriend business, why would she spend it all on her abortion? It's not the fact that she chooses abortion for the good of her. It's the fact that she has done it multiple times. As a pro-life(due to religious reasons, but doesn't mind for people who is a pro-choice), I kind of find Yuno's "murder" quite reasonable at first, but after digging down deeper I kind of doesn't appreciate what she has done. Again, this is my point of view, I can't change yours, I'm just stating what I've seen from discussions. And also, she might lie. Stating each prisoners sins earlier doesn't go in-line with what MILGRAM's project is, this might even just to further make the drama even more interesting, like the Mu situation, so it would be recommended to not judge the book by the cover. Thank you for reading my essay, and please be civil in the next reply thread! :D /lighthearted /genuine
@@zhaela4545 I'd vote her innocent even if she just woke up one day like "today I will get pregnant and plan my abortion in a month :)" lol maybe I'm an outlier but I really don't think people who are pro choice and not religious care all that much. It's a clump of cells, I know I don't care She's the only one getting hurt here, making this behavior alarming but not in the "omg evil!" way. It's self harm, the procedures are safe but it's not fun having cramps and bleeding a lot or getting poked in a doctor's office. Not to mention the possibility she was diying it which is very dangerous and possibly the reason she suspects her death
I'm starting to think that Yuno tried to suicide before she got to Milgram bcs in the "undercover" mv she was shown standing on a high place. So maybe that why she asked if she was alive or not . Also she seems so smart and sane I like her personality , hope she'll share more information with us .
there's a theory as well that the Milgram prisoners *are* dead and this is some sort of pre-afterlife (I guess deciding where they're going) or hell itself. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it but it's food for thought
@@willmorbyers923If that's true I feel terrible for Amane... Girl had a bad life till the end and she ends up being right about an afterlife due to religion
Love how this trial is the temperature of liquid nitrogen displaying her true cold hearted nature but still innocent as hell and slay queen (in girl boss way)
Not sure how I feel about it, but I think “am I really alive?” Is Yuno being meta and realizing she’s fictional and blah blah. Given the whole “magic force field” around Es and the “voices” of the audience, it seems like a grand fourth wall break is in the near future
i sympathise with her SO MUCH ON THIS. she doesnt want to be forgiven because shes someone that can be pitied, but because she fixed a problem that came from something she did completely on her own. people just automatically assumed what made her get with them and made some pitiful backstory to forgive her with which pisses her off. of course shes going to be pissed and unpleased.
"Am I... really alive?" Seeing she's the sanest person of all the prisoners here, I feel like she's gonna discover the secret behind MILGRAM. EVERYONE, VOTE HER INNOCENT! If she can discover the secret, she can give us more info about the decisions and trials.
@@coolestdex saying vote innocent for in house information gathering is how we got everyone beating up in the first place yet another layer to this whole thing seeing people still able to make such decisions even with all those ripples
Thank you so much for uploading the rest of the voice dramas! I couldn't for the life of me find the translation for this everyone was talking about, it's such a relief to be properly up to date again.
“Am I really alive?” This might be the stupidest or the smartest conspiracy that I thought of, and I really do not have anything to back this up tbh. But what if it is later reveal that all the prisoners in Milgram are dead and we are sorta judging whether they would go to heaven or hell?
As far as I know, I think this was a plot point in the MILGRAM light novel so I wouldn’t put it past them to do something like this, which is why I’m really suspicious of how prisoners interact with each other because it could have a deeper meaning/connection to their past lives (if they have one following this theory)
13:29 Makes me worry that prisoners are in some kind of storage (Magic? Technology?) and Es is the REAL subject of the experiment. They are part of MILGRAM. Maybe they’re kept there forever and MILGRAM is repeated endlessly with other wardens. That would be a fitting but heartbreaking nod to the original Milgram experiment. 😢
@@agh4sst396 I feel the Audio drama is gonna stare the viewers down an talk about how fuked it can be to use this guys suffering for such worthless methods of quick group fun
I've just binged your videos, and I've got to thank you for continuing to upload these!! It's great to know someone picked this up after I stopped uploading (I just could NOT find the time AAAAA) T-T These are all so great, keep it up !!!
Fun fact, in the interrogation questions on twitter, Yuno says the only person who she can remotely say is like her is Kazui... So thats some food for thought
@@scarery-p55adding onto this, Kazui admitted the same thing in his interrogation questions. Then, he admitted that the prisoner he dislikes the most is also Yuno.
I have a feeling that after we vote her innocent (AND WE WILL, PERIOD. WHYS GIRLIE EVEN IN HERE.) she'll take that as us continuing assuming things about her and thinking of her as an innocent little girl. I just wish i could reach through the screen and tell her that its not because we see her as a poor little child who isnt realising what is happening, but because abortion isnt murder therefore she isnt guilty, she shouldnt even be here. But maybe she will actually realise why we are voting her innocent and understand everything, i hope she does at least.
What about the names of the voice dramas? Could they perhaps mean something? in this one, -273,15ºC is equal to 0K (zero kelvin)... Could it be referring to the fact that she's more "cooled off" now? A thing's for sure, it's definitely referring to the recurring theme of lack of warmth (0K is a temperature that's so cold it's impossible to achieve irl). Either way, I don't really know what to make out of this, so take this info as you'd like.
maybe it has something to do with her not actually being as "cooled off" as she says she is? if that's not a temperature that's possible to achieve, maybe it's a metaphor for a lie
As long as the people who translate the future voice dramas are okay with me using them, it shouldn’t be a problem! I would also like to continue to post them for the fandom!
You go girl! Live your truth! Get paid! But also birth control and condoms and exist, so maybe look into it a little. You're 18 now after all.... it would probably be easier on you in the long run. ...that is if you aren't already dead and in purgatory or something. But y'know, tip for the next life!
I understand theres some people that voted her innocent cause they though she "must have a reason", but I think the majority of us that decided she should be forgiven did so because of the "crime" she commited alone. I dont see abortion as murder, so why would I see her as a criminal. Thats all. Actually, I feel like they are trying wayyy to hard with her "oh so nonchalant, maybe Im right, maybe Im wrong" character to make people rethink if shes innocent or not when, for most people, however she acts, whatever were her motivations and the way she views everything doesnt really matter, cause she would be innocent either way. Its kinda funny seeing them try so much, and the only thing this is doing is making people like her more lol
I feel weird about this since I never painted a picture of a helpless person who couldn't do anything about her situation I just thought she didn't want a child whilst she put herself out there Which seems to be the case based on the 2nd MV Being in that line of work/living that life of multiple men isn't a bad thing in my book as much as a more greedy life style, which I have nothing against Prostitution and having Sugar Daddies is one of the longest running professions and fulfills multiple lines of supply and demand, a man wants attention while she wants money (and no baby! Whoo!) She will never be guilty in my personal eyes
i don’t see her as pitiful or anything really, but i mean, of course she’s innocent in my book because i don’t think abortion is murder in any circumstance, and she doesn’t need a reason for that. however… is yuno herself pro-life? she said she doesn’t disagree that abortion is murder ? i would completely disagree with her on that
I think that she is prochoice, just in a more nonchalant way. She clearly states that she didn’t feel like she was taking a life when she had the abortions, and I’m 100% certain from her personality and how she talks about it that she doesn’t care at all if other people have them. I think it’s more that she won’t fight someone on it if they disagree with her
@@ac-gf4zt hmm yeah you’re right! it’s kind of odd how abortion as a topic is handled in milgram though, i get the narrative they were going for sorry wise but i don’t see how an abortion got yuno in milgram
@@seraphiinas I definitely agree. I think a lot of the problem is that Milgram wasn’t prepared for such a large western audience, who generally has much more open views on abortion. I often see people argue that Yuno must have done more, she must have killed one of the people she was dating or something, that the abortion isn’t enough to make her “murder” controversial, but I don’t think that’s true. I just think the writers didn’t think people would feel so strongly in one direction about her story. And so they’re in kind of a weird position now. I love her and her character anyway though, and I hope she gets the 3/3 innocent verdict she deserves
@@seraphiinas So, as to why Yuno is in milgram, here’s my take on it: MILGRAM doesn’t necessarily take in people who have committed first degree murder. I think Milgram takes people who think, or are aware, they’ve committed murder. If you really think about it, while some find their own actions justifiable, no one will deny they have committed murder (well aside from Mikoto, but he’s a special case). I think Yuno sees abortion as murder, that’s why she’s here in the first place. She also doesn’t seem to like herself very much, and this voice drama seems to somewhat imply that she doesn’t want to be taken lightly for her “crime”. She wants people to see it for what she sees it as, taking a life. I think she has somewhat of a conflict with herself: she sees abortions as murder yet she didn’t feel like she committed murder when she herself did it, which would technically go against her own beliefs, possibly leading her to dislike herself. I think Yuno sees herself as guilty, and I think she felt unjustified when people were making all kinds of excuses to voting her innocent, when she herself didn’t think that way. Just my theory tho, it can all fall apart if Yuno doesn’t actually consider herself a murderer. But the voice drama seems to imply exactly that.
(SPOILER) because some people don’t know how to put that I feel like they want to sell us on the fact that she’s a bad character but I feel like we’re all in agreement that what she did simply wasn’t a crime I think moving forward with her innocent vote, one of three things could happen 1. They try to sell us on pro life by having her think about the life of the baby that could’ve happened or have her grow malicious to the idea of abortion. 2. Decide there’s no where else to go with her character, her case has already been solved, kill her off 3. Somehow someway, get her knocked up by someone and see how her stance develops then(which I think will be the most interesting) But yes easy innocent vote, the most I could knock her for is a slight attitude adjustment but even then that’s just petty
Interesting... just some mindless thoughts her but, I had wondered why she was doing compensated dating despite seeming to hate much of it, but I guess she doesn't have too big of a reason, and if she does, I guess it'll be revealed eventually. She had a decent family and seemingly no urgent financial situation after all. I hadn't been here when the first trial happened, welp. But... I do find it interesting that they hear the voices of the comments. All of them.
@@Red_567 real and before yuno seemed to really respect es but now she's so cold because of the vote but they're also the only person that ever saw her this way... im obsessed
6:42 the comments: "Yunocest, lol" "YASSSSS QUEEN SLAAAAYYY" "the real reason she was in milgram is because she killed the sunglasses" "My girl legit murdered sunglasses" "her crime is abortion, right? then obviously gonna forgive her" "i don't really care how "cold" and "troublesome" she gets. she shouldn't be in milgram to begin with" - Kirigiri Kyouko "wait why is she here then? it's just abortion?" "her body her choices" "I like it when she says “its yuno time” and yun’s all over everybody" - denumbug "she's self-aware, I like that!" "She has the right to decide if she wants to be pregnant or not" - Magnus Shibley "I think Yuno misunderstood. We're not forgiving her because we think she's a innocent, naive, little girl or because we think she has a reason. We're forgiving her because it's her body and her choice, and it's not a crime to do what YOU want to do with your body" - oof "girl ate and left no crumbs" "queen who didnt do anything wrong"
Hmm I would have liked to see her voted 50% Innocent and 50% guilty, the verdict of her results doesn’t matter so it well enough should be that (or more like innocent, 50%, guilty) though it’s highly improbable. The question of whether any of them are alive is a great one If this was a game that I could play for myself I simply wouldn’t vote but since it’s all of our opinions that may not even matter, what’s the point in not voting for something, this is for our own amusement or other reasons after all; I mean if that was to be some how confirmed, then we’d formulate our own reasoning behind it just as Yuno said, something like in this case since we voted Amane guilty or vote her guilty again, it could lead to some form of hell instead of the wanted results of her learning that cults ideology is wrong. In the end I guess all that really matters is the crowds of people with the same opinions; whether the results lead to freedom, prosecution, punishment, religious outcome or nothing at all doesn’t matter does it, it’s just about the tidal wave of super ego’s, opinions. I wonder what this game is all about and if we will get to judge Es (or the masses opinions projected into Es and spat out by him using his ideology,)nin the upcoming years?
okay, OKAY, -273.15°C (0 K), she wants a fun reason to be forgiven, okay, here's one, she's hot and Jackalope said it's okay to forgive people because they're hot, end of discussion. (Help, I think I'm getting too involved in a fictitious judgment)
Yeah, I'm not used to people making that big of a deal for an abortion. From my perspective, it feels as if the writers are trying too hard to make her a gray character when in reality she's just white. Then again, I know I only feel that way because of my enviroment. Lots of people would be outraged by her.
@@Laupsonic I don't think she could have hidden her crime that perfectly, especially from a mind reading machine. I bet the creators will make her cover "get that fetus, kill that fetus" next just to make her "controversial" /jk
I don't think she's guilty personally because she's not actually murdering anyone imo because when people get abortions they're usually these tiny things smaller than ur fingertips that aren't conscious... The only thing she might be guilty for is like lying to her sugar daddies abt her age, but this is a trial for murder not withholding info or lying. I saw a lot of people during the first trial say like "she should learn her lesson" but why? Like just let her do what she wants, of course the physical effects of abortions can be bad but having multiple babies can not only be bad for your body but also ur entire life. Loved ones might shun you, your babies will grow up in unsafe and unhappy environments if you don't want them... Like she's being kinda reckless but at least not to the point where she is damaging other people for the long term... Plus it's not like its not consensual. But what really is the difference btwn a guy doing what she does and her doing it other than the fact that people try to have more control over a woman's body and create more stigma and shame? Of course, there's the dangers of abortions and pregnancies but guys can get people pregnant, but they aren't shamed, and they certainly aren't shamed by the public if they run away as much as the girls who are shamed in those situations because she had sex... Anyways vote her not guilty!! UH this is just my opinion ofc but idk i wanted to get it out
Just because they are small doesn't mean they're not conscious, by the time pregnancy tests show results they alr have a heartbeat and have a brainstem
I absolutely agree I saw the comments last trail and to say I was shocked trying to reason with killers is insane even if they had a reason you can relate to they still killed someone. I think people a lot of people are trying to rationalise killing due to the strong thing that humans due witch is trying to find reason I understand a lot of killers aren’t mentally okay and need help but that does not justify killing (also I don’t think abortion is murder) but honestly this test is to see how as humans respond and change due to people reasoning and attitude and I think they are all guilty douse they killed I can feel bad for certain points but there is no saving them course they are killers
The number is somewhat interesting, I doubt it's picked at random, but the closest thing I could find was the freezing point of helium(-272°C) but even still it's one degree off.
Just some thoughts: I think yuno is a psychopath. Not the murder kind, but the literal kind. She stated that her sugar daddies don't give her the warmth she wanted (alluding to lack of empathy). She puts up a convincing cute front, and has been described as being cold and calculating many times. She is also usually in complete control of the situation, and she Never showed an emotion besides irritation While her crime is mundane, I think what they want us to consider is that should we vote innocent someone who is literally a psychopath, because their crime is basically nothing.
can I ask where you got that sprite of Yuno from? it's not the main one on the site. I see it on the album cover, but that's not transparent or (afaik) as high-def
I genuinely don’t think abortion is the only “murder” guys😭 Idk if I’m wrong but it just feels like the death scenes from Undercover wouldn’t make sense if it was abortion. Like, she’s clearly seen standing over someone. But again, idk.
remember kids, abortion is murder without a victim! though I think Yuno fundamentally understands this - hence why she calls herself a respectable murderer. Nobody else is getting hurt by it, technically speaking. She knows what she did is wrong, but she’s also doing compensated dating (it’s prostitution) to make herself feel warm/happy. Pregnancy is just a bothersome side-effect of it. Personally, I think she engages in the whole situation by taking on different personas to feel loved; but she finds her clients disgusting, and us, for psycho analyzing and laying assumptions about her. Her true personality is icier, monotone and serious compared to the bubbly sweet character she tried to play herself up as for her clients (and es initially.) On a grand scale, Yuno isn’t a bad person, but she’s using compensated dating as a cover for wanting to be loved. She becomes the person who we want her to be - but she wants to be seen for herself and that her sense of self is stable regardless of what we think/judge.
People who vote her innocent. Most likely you'll be in for a surprise in the third trial. Think about it, People are mostly voting for her innocence even though the writers specifically want her to be voted guilty, even she said she wanted to be voted guilty in her MV. Most likely this is a reverse psychology type deal. Since Milligram voted her innocent again in the second trial. I have a feeling that most likely, Prisoner number 10 or prisoner number 08 would try and hurt her. No matter if you think Abortion is murder or not, we don't know what the characters think about that. However, i have a prediction that amane wouldn't be so keen about that, we never know. However it is for certain that Yuno, most likely with her validated the second time, won't make it out unscathed. Personal opinion: I don't know why people keep voting her innocent. No matter your thoughts about her murder, she acknowledges that she has no remorse for it and that she'll keep doing it. I feel like that, paired with the crime, makes it way worse.
People keep voting her Innocent because abortion literally just isnt murder, meaning she doesnt even NEED to be forgiven for murder. Its as simple as that. It doesnt MATTER if she feels remorse or not, because she didnt do anything wrong in the first place.
@@Miropup You're not only supposed to vote on just their crime alone or forgiveness. But you also need to take into account if you want to affirm their ideas or not. You saw it with Futa, you saw it with Haruka, you saw it with Makoto, and amane (and maybe Mu) we made the wrong decisions and it caused a whole lot of trouble with them in the first round. All of them are murderers. Yuno too. She wouldn't be there if it's not considered to be a murder. Many doctors who are pro-choice and even perform these abortions themselves agree that a child from conception has the full DNA making of a human being and by the 1-3 week, the heart is beating. Thus proof of the baby being a living thing. Thus killing it would ultimately be, murder. How can a heartbeat stopping mean death, but a heartbeat starting doesn't mean life? Anyways I'm not here to go into a full blown argument on abortion because I'm not here for that. However it is for certain that whatever you think of abortion, two things are true. 1. The abortion(s)was the murder she had done. 2. Yuno has no intention of stopping from doing her crime over and over again. In Yuno's first trial, we see that she could have had three more abortions at the end, all with a smile on her face. On her second trial, she literally said to vote for her guilty because she knows she's a murderer, which can be supported by her second voice drama which she admitted she didn't care about it. The writers are telling us to vote her guilty for a reason, especially with Amane around, I don't know if she'd let Yuno off too kindly. Again just a theory. Plus, this innocent verdict can possibly change her for the worse, just like how it did Amane, Mu, Haruka, etc.
@@Sleepy-Koala 1.) Its a murder *according to MILGRAM.* We already know that MILGRAM considers multiple things to be "murder" that OBJECTIVELY arent. Kazui even outright says that if MILGRAM considers him a murderer, its definition of murder is too broad. Abortion is objectively not murder because whether a thumb-sized bundle of cells has a heartbeat or not is really the most irrelevant thing about it. 2.1) Yuno answered the question "If you coud turn back time, would you commit the same murder again" in her 2nd Trial Interrogation questions with "Id make sure that i dont have to commit it. thats all". 2.2) Quite frankly she could get an abortion every two months and shed still be in the right to do it. The "She has no remorse and kept doing it!" argument falls completely flat because *there is no need for remorse in the first place.* 3.) Does she ACTUALLY ever say to vote her guilty though? She explicitly says that her issue isnt being forgiven itself, but being forgiven based on the arbitrary assumption that she must be a pitiful victim with a tragic backstory. She is also pretty clear that she hates MILGRAMs system and its judgment in general. 4.) You are assuming that just because the writers are trying to push us into voting her guilty, its the "correct" answer, instead of simply challenging whether we will stand by our vote if she isnt the, to quote Yuno herself, "acceptable" version of herself a section of the fanbase expected her to be. Yes, voting Prisoners innocent made them worse... and so did voting them guilty. I dont think ANY verdict is going to help these characters. If we voted her Guilty, it wouldve just messed her up someother way. Because "helping them" or "making them understand their mistakes" is not the purpose of the Votes. The purpose is to judge whether you forgive them or not. Quite frankly the only way i could see the votes ACTUALLY having a positive effect on any of them is if we either somehow managed to completely abstain from voting (which is not gonna happen) or get a perfect 50/50 split (which is incredibly prone to just end in unwanted results via last second votes). Because the actual real Milgram experiment was about peoples willingness to hurt someone because an authority figure gave them the okay, which seems to very clearly be what we are doing.
A question though, when on her MV she said she wanted to be voted guilty? I think she doesn't care rather she's votes innocent or guilty, she just don't want to be seen as a poor naive girl. She said "Innocent? I'm not so that" in the meaning of being pure, since lots of people thought she were That's what i think though
I might get flamed for this take but Yuno is my least favourite prisoner. It seems like she gets to do whatever she wants without any sense of responsibility. I personally don’t mind abortion as a last resort, but abusing this service to fix your irresponsibilities just because it’s convenient doesn’t sit right with me at all. Like she could’ve gone on birth control or used a condom at least??? And she explicitly stated that it wasn’t like she didn’t have a choice. Maybe it’s because I have quite strong morals, but it pains me to see how abortion is not a big deal to a lot of people at all, at least in this comment section.
is that some kind of joke I thought that all the prisoners her are killers, I suddenly lost all the interest that I have in milgram there is no point in forgiving an innocent person.
You don't get it. If that's your point of vision then Fuuta and Mahiru(probably Kazui too) are also not killers. Milgram is all about leading someone to death, and Yuno with her abortion, leaded a fetus to death. Her whole trial is not about her crime but about herself- If we will forgive her and let her continue doing what she's doing, what's pretty much that. Fuuta doxxed someone and unintentionally made them kill themselves, he didn't killed anyone. Mahiru was on a toxic relationship and leaded her partner to death, also didn't killed. Kazui lied to his wife and when he said the truth, she killed herself, again, he didn't killed someone, he leaded someone to death. You don't need to kill someone directly to be in Milgram, you just need to lead someone to death.
It's because Milgram's interpretation of 'murderer' is so loose. Take somebody like Futa, who never directly injured anybody, he technically isn't a murderer. Yuno being here doesn't mean they are making a statement like 'abortion is murder' but they are challenging that idea instead.
What kinda irritates me about her case is purely the fact that if it is just abortion, then she shouldn’t be here? The only way it could be considered “actual murder” in my eyes is if the baby is already is already in the 3rd trimester, and she’s “aborting” then in her own way. Even then, I personally don’t care enough about a baby with no genuine personality for it to make sense to me. I wish there was more to her story then just “abortion” because there will never be a thought of her being guilty. At this rate, she doesn’t even need to be here, I don’t care if there are people who SEE it as murder, it’s not, and it’s as clear as that. It’s not murder unless that baby is in the third trimester or born. That might make things more complicated, otherwise, it’s not a question. That’s the only reason I don’t like her case, because it doesn’t feel like a case, it feels like she’s there for the pro-lifers and genuinely, their thoughts and opinions don’t matter at all🤷
she literally just got rid of a bundle of cells, not a whole baby human. she doesnt deserve to be there, and you can see she clearly doesnt regret it and she feels better knowing she isnt carrying what she describes (as far as i can recall) a "sensation"
@@ilikescatsalot i don’t exactly know…if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me- but I do know that it’s just a bundle of cells and I also know she doesn’t feel bad for I’m just…kinda not sure what was the point of your comment???
I think she did the abort by herself(or maybe she killed the baby after they were born), not in some kind of hospital and something And all the milgram thing is about people who lead someone to death, not that murdered someone That's what I think, at least
Really...i think Yuno is trying to run away from the guilt... killing the child since she knew she might get attached.... that's why being so cold and not valuing ethics at all
![MILGRAM - Mahiru's Second Voice Drama (Love is [Un]Dead)](/img/n.gif)
I love how Yuno straight up calls out the audience for projecting all these assumptions about who she is and painting her as a naive/tragic character, just like we're making all these assumptions and theorizing what everyone else's deal is based in the minimal information we have. She feels annoyed that the entire basis for forgiveness is how much we sympathize/like the character; she doesn't need or want that. She's a young adult fully in control of her own life and choices, not a victim forced to make a difficult choice. Honestly I'm pretty sure that's a big part of why she had an even bigger margin voting her innocent this time around; people respect that she was upfront about her feelings and showed that she was self aware about her situation.
other inmates- in for cult-influenced murder, revenge murder, murder from a DID alter, murder of their mother, etc
Yuno: "I had an abortion once"
Actually. Her first MV shows she probably had four in total.
@@Sleepy-Koala 3, she never reached the fourth from what we saw
Haruka killed his sister i think
@ForgettablePerson He killed a girl who unfriended him once she was old enough to realize what Haruka is
Edit: I'm not sure who he killed anymore mf is faceblind AND mute
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3 "What he is" atuitism [problably
Yuno sounds like a thrill seeker who would do anything to feel something because she felt barely anything. Or at least that's how it sounds to me since she emphasize that she want it to be interesting and hate it when it become boring or annoying. The feeling of nothingness is scary coz it could make you do anything just to feel something.
this honestly seems really true to me especially when she said "am i really alive?"
I find it interesting that some people seem to think she’s some sort of psychopath after this drama because of her attitude… if I was stuck in a prison and judged like her (and of course had her awareness of the flaws of society and others’ judgements of oneself) I’d be pissed too
I like her even more at this point...
She's the most sane person in the room for this trial, and her borderline impartial insights are huge info for us to look at.
Especially with what's happening to Amane and Shidou, and how Mahiru is literally at her breaking point.
She even comments in the TL that Mahiru shouldn't even be in Milgram.
Which I feel is a huge hint towards how Mahiru's crime went down. Which is interesting because she even calls out Kazui in a later TL post where she cuts the bullshit and is like "Ya know, the difference between our lying is... you lie for yourself and I lie for no one. Because I believe no one is important, not even myself."
Sounds like Kazui is getting on Yuno's nerves a bit.
She's probably upset with the audience making up some idealized version of her because that's what her clients did. She had to act out the person of their dreams, go along with whatever person they wanted her to be. And she's had enough of that.
This is why I'm so interested in what discussions are happening with the Japanese fanbase. Even though Yuno was voted Innocent it seems like the reasons behind the vote were somewhat different over there.
Do you know what the reasonings were? I'm sure it's not the same as international voting since different cultures, morals, etc.
@@abbym11111 Well what Es confirmed as their reason behind the innocent vote was probably what the Japanese fanbase was voting based on. Assuming Yuno is pitiable, etc.
@@sanwich626 I have seen women characters in other parts of Asia an dam a lot of people think of women being so weak in some way
theirs many stories where its all about oh no she was ruined because she was such a humble an small women but here comes a rich guy to give her some wings
I think it was because Yuno's first trial happened at a time when Milgram was mostly known by the jap fanbase, so the international fanbase didn't had much of a chance to discus about her, and well, japanese morals are quite different... There is also the way how many asian people like to portray women like fragile and weak and pitiable
Yeah because unlike America, Japan is not pro-abortion and thinks it's an evil practice if not done for medically necessary purposes. This is why the Japanese were primarily focusing on the fact that she is very young and innocent placing her into more of a childlike sentiment for psychological justification of abortion which would be deemed as fair in Japanese society. But her scamming men for sex and then aborting babies like they are trash is seen as tantamount to murder over there.
A lot of Americans voted her innocent simply because they think abortion should be available on demand at any stage for any reason including convenience. So they voted using their western sensibilities of abortion and didn't think about how the Japanese viewed abortion. Since MILGRAM is a Japanese project they really only looked at the Japanese comments and maybe looked at only a handful of English comments. Since most of the Japanese comments were about her being a child still and using that as justification for the abortions (despite being illegal in Japan) that's probably why her response was the way it was.
Obviously this topic is a hot button issue in the United States with multiple extremes across the political spectrum so it's not like the Japanese are going to 100% understand all of the stances and take them into account for her situation. But I do think a lot of the western fanbase needs to leave their cultural bias at the door and look at these characters as Japanese in Japanese society dealing with Japanese attitudes and realities instead of just voting a way that agrees with their western political stance.
Abortion needs medical justification in Japan from a doctor and consent from the baby daddy. She had neither so the Abortion was tantamount to murder of a baby in Japan.
Basically Yuno is the Japanese version of Alexee Trevizo. Killing a baby she knew was going to be born simply not to deal with the consequences of her own actions (sex before she was ready). The justification some are using is that these girls are too young and scared to understand how messed up it is to kill a baby to protect themselves and simply panicked about the situation.
And we see where that idea has led to in MILGRAM.
I don’t think Yuno thinks her abortion is makes her guilty, but she hates that she would be forgiven for being perceived as a child who was taken advantage of. Of course abortion shouldn’t make her guilty of murder in any case, but does the fact that she knew exactly what she was doing change that? I read that the age of adulthood in Japan was just lowered from 20 to 18 this year, so Yuno is legally an adult now. But I wonder what people’s opinion of her would be if she was 20 years old from the start.
I wonder if the writers are trying to stray from just the abortion and go more into the business of prostitution and rental girlfriends itself.
i think she is cheating on her boyfriends
@@Fruko0108-gg6sbshe wasn’t cheating she does compensated dating as a job and had multiple clients
I mean Es's limbs were broken in the shot in Undercover, and limbs usually grow that big in around the second trimester of pregnancy so Yuno was almost certainly underage when her child was conceive.
I'm pro-life to the core, but I don't think abortion warrants jail. Especially not when statuory rape is involved.
Edit: Combining the information from her birthday and the MILGRAM portal she was indeed 18
I love how they’re trynna get us to not like her and it’s not working lol
This isnt true. Its trying to get us to vote with our emotions instead of logic. The writers want us to vote her guilty, she even said in her MV that she wants to be voted guilty. However we voted her innocent, it feels like the writers knew they would do such a thing, that people would vote innocent because they view her as a "queen" or something similar.
Jackalope always tries to lead us to vote with our emotions instead of logic, we know hes sadistic. So he knows something bad will happen in the end if we do vote with our emotions, which is exactly what happened with yuno. People are looking into favoring the character rather than actually taking their sins into account.
Because Millgram validated her once again in the second trial, I'd see that either Prisoner no 10 or Prisoner no 08 might do something to yuno in the third trial.
@@Sleepy-Koala even if we vote with logic, shed still be innocent though
@riverthecrybaby9448 Sorry if I'm trying to spread misinfo as I am new. Correct me if I'm wrong ^^
If I remember correctly, she said she has done *many* abortions, some people who voted her guilty stated that, even though they're a pro-choice, they find it annoying that Yuno has done many abortions, which could be avoided with many ways such as birth control pills (I think some of the community know she is aware that she has done multiple seggs just because she wanted to "satisfy lonely men" and "doing this out of free will", I know that minors cannot consent (she has done this before she turned 18) but I do find it pretty confusing that she did this out of "free will" and "just wanted to satisfy lonely men" (my theory is that she also did this out of "curiousity") and didn't think of the consequences, plus, she has done this many times and seems like she got used to it, which is pretty concerning for someone who just turned adult like her (iirc she's 18)). And do keep in mind that abortion is expensive as hell (could cost around $600-$2,000 in the US), if she got paid to do a rent-a-girlfriend business, why would she spend it all on her abortion? It's not the fact that she chooses abortion for the good of her. It's the fact that she has done it multiple times. As a pro-life(due to religious reasons, but doesn't mind for people who is a pro-choice), I kind of find Yuno's "murder" quite reasonable at first, but after digging down deeper I kind of doesn't appreciate what she has done.
Again, this is my point of view, I can't change yours, I'm just stating what I've seen from discussions. And also, she might lie. Stating each prisoners sins earlier doesn't go in-line with what MILGRAM's project is, this might even just to further make the drama even more interesting, like the Mu situation, so it would be recommended to not judge the book by the cover. Thank you for reading my essay, and please be civil in the next reply thread! :D /lighthearted /genuine
@@zhaela4545 I'd vote her innocent even if she just woke up one day like "today I will get pregnant and plan my abortion in a month :)" lol maybe I'm an outlier but I really don't think people who are pro choice and not religious care all that much. It's a clump of cells, I know I don't care
She's the only one getting hurt here, making this behavior alarming but not in the "omg evil!" way. It's self harm, the procedures are safe but it's not fun having cramps and bleeding a lot or getting poked in a doctor's office. Not to mention the possibility she was diying it which is very dangerous and possibly the reason she suspects her death
@@zhaela4545this is so true
I'm starting to think that Yuno tried to suicide before she got to Milgram bcs in the "undercover" mv she was shown standing on a high place. So maybe that why she asked if she was alive or not . Also she seems so smart and sane I like her personality , hope she'll share more information with us .
there's a theory as well that the Milgram prisoners *are* dead and this is some sort of pre-afterlife (I guess deciding where they're going) or hell itself. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it but it's food for thought
I thought she in high place because of brutal abortion
@@willmorbyers923If that's true I feel terrible for Amane... Girl had a bad life till the end and she ends up being right about an afterlife due to religion
Love how this trial is the temperature of liquid nitrogen displaying her true cold hearted nature but still innocent as hell and slay queen (in girl boss way)
Not sure how I feel about it, but I think “am I really alive?” Is Yuno being meta and realizing she’s fictional and blah blah. Given the whole “magic force field” around Es and the “voices” of the audience, it seems like a grand fourth wall break is in the near future
when she said „am i really alive?” i felt that 🥲
i sympathise with her SO MUCH ON THIS. she doesnt want to be forgiven because shes someone that can be pitied, but because she fixed a problem that came from something she did completely on her own. people just automatically assumed what made her get with them and made some pitiful backstory to forgive her with which pisses her off. of course shes going to be pissed and unpleased.
She probably dislikes muu
@@starpeep5769 hmm... maybe but we dont know the whole story to muu ourselves. i'd like to say that they dont have an opinion on eachother (just imo)
@@koemidollywell she billy and drama queen so guilty
@@runajain5773 billy.???
@@koemidollysorry it bully not billy
"Am I... really alive?"
Seeing she's the sanest person of all the prisoners here, I feel like she's gonna discover the secret behind MILGRAM. EVERYONE, VOTE HER INNOCENT! If she can discover the secret, she can give us more info about the decisions and trials.
That's.... not our duty, i would rather give proper judgements to those who deserve it.
Either way, Yuno will most likely to end up being innocent. Doesn't matter either way. I stan her.
there's a secret behind milgram?
@@sanwich626 i think they mean why milgram was created or why es was brainwashed and stuff
@@coolestdex saying vote innocent for in house information gathering is how we got everyone beating up in the first place yet another layer to this whole thing seeing people still able to make such decisions even with all those ripples
Thank you so much for uploading the rest of the voice dramas! I couldn't for the life of me find the translation for this everyone was talking about, it's such a relief to be properly up to date again.
“Am I really alive?”
This might be the stupidest or the smartest conspiracy that I thought of, and I really do not have anything to back this up tbh. But what if it is later reveal that all the prisoners in Milgram are dead and we are sorta judging whether they would go to heaven or hell?
you just described death parade 😭
As far as I know, I think this was a plot point in the MILGRAM light novel so I wouldn’t put it past them to do something like this, which is why I’m really suspicious of how prisoners interact with each other because it could have a deeper meaning/connection to their past lives (if they have one following this theory)
13:29 Makes me worry that prisoners are in some kind of storage (Magic? Technology?) and Es is the REAL subject of the experiment. They are part of MILGRAM. Maybe they’re kept there forever and MILGRAM is repeated endlessly with other wardens. That would be a fitting but heartbreaking nod to the original Milgram experiment. 😢
That hurts very much but tbh Es is sometimes obnoxious but we should save them anywayss
Loved Yuno’s attitude. Go queen, you don’t need people to jump on you and assume things to know that you’re right. I love her a lot more after this VD
So the prisoners can hear the fans's reasonings? Mikoto's audio drama is going to be very interesting...
Thanks a lot for making this video!
OH GOD
every1 thirsting over him......💀💀💀
Who wouldn't?/jh
@@agh4sst396 I feel the Audio drama is gonna stare the viewers down an talk about how fuked it can be to use this guys suffering for such worthless methods of quick group fun
LMAO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT
4:02 i love how she calls them out
I've just binged your videos, and I've got to thank you for continuing to upload these!! It's great to know someone picked this up after I stopped uploading (I just could NOT find the time AAAAA) T-T These are all so great, keep it up !!!
We collectively thank you for your hard work!
I just wanna point out in her "It's bothersome" rant the only inmates Yuno didn't mentions, besides herself, were Fuuto, who ES mentioned, and Kazui.
Fun fact, in the interrogation questions on twitter, Yuno says the only person who she can remotely say is like her is Kazui... So thats some food for thought
@@scarery-p55adding onto this, Kazui admitted the same thing in his interrogation questions.
Then, he admitted that the prisoner he dislikes the most is also Yuno.
@@bluemoss9831damn kazui
I have a feeling that after we vote her innocent (AND WE WILL, PERIOD. WHYS GIRLIE EVEN IN HERE.) she'll take that as us continuing assuming things about her and thinking of her as an innocent little girl. I just wish i could reach through the screen and tell her that its not because we see her as a poor little child who isnt realising what is happening, but because abortion isnt murder therefore she isnt guilty, she shouldnt even be here. But maybe she will actually realise why we are voting her innocent and understand everything, i hope she does at least.
Thank you for the video! Yuno’s my favorite character!
If they are dead, Es might be a judge of whether they go to heaven or hell, or the equivalent.
What about the names of the voice dramas? Could they perhaps mean something? in this one, -273,15ºC is equal to 0K (zero kelvin)... Could it be referring to the fact that she's more "cooled off" now? A thing's for sure, it's definitely referring to the recurring theme of lack of warmth (0K is a temperature that's so cold it's impossible to achieve irl). Either way, I don't really know what to make out of this, so take this info as you'd like.
I saw it as "absolute zero" since she wanted to give es nothing and she doesn't want milgram to change her like how nothing moves in absolute zero
maybe it has something to do with her not actually being as "cooled off" as she says she is? if that's not a temperature that's possible to achieve, maybe it's a metaphor for a lie
OMG THANK YA SM! will you continue to post every second trial voice drama? cuz i rlly need them! 🫶🏻
As long as the people who translate the future voice dramas are okay with me using them, it shouldn’t be a problem! I would also like to continue to post them for the fandom!
@@ac-gf4zt you are an angel 😭 TYSM yet again!
You go girl! Live your truth! Get paid!
But also birth control and condoms and exist, so maybe look into it a little. You're 18 now after all.... it would probably be easier on you in the long run.
...that is if you aren't already dead and in purgatory or something. But y'know, tip for the next life!
Istg how tf did she live to be 18 and not know of the pill lmao
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3u can get pregnant while on birth control
@@enaemon0787I know but 3 times by 18? I mean these things are really taboo I was 18 when I learned what BC was too
@@T3RM1N4llyOffl1n3ikr...
OMG I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS THANK YOU SOOOO MUCHHHH 😭😭😭
Thank you so much for translating these
I understand theres some people that voted her innocent cause they though she "must have a reason", but I think the majority of us that decided she should be forgiven did so because of the "crime" she commited alone. I dont see abortion as murder, so why would I see her as a criminal. Thats all.
Actually, I feel like they are trying wayyy to hard with her "oh so nonchalant, maybe Im right, maybe Im wrong" character to make people rethink if shes innocent or not when, for most people, however she acts, whatever were her motivations and the way she views everything doesnt really matter, cause she would be innocent either way. Its kinda funny seeing them try so much, and the only thing this is doing is making people like her more lol
i love yuno sm
I feel weird about this since I never painted a picture of a helpless person who couldn't do anything about her situation
I just thought she didn't want a child whilst she put herself out there
Which seems to be the case based on the 2nd MV
Being in that line of work/living that life of multiple men isn't a bad thing in my book as much as a more greedy life style, which I have nothing against
Prostitution and having Sugar Daddies is one of the longest running professions and fulfills multiple lines of supply and demand, a man wants attention while she wants money (and no baby! Whoo!)
She will never be guilty in my personal eyes
i don’t see her as pitiful or anything really, but i mean, of course she’s innocent in my book because i don’t think abortion is murder in any circumstance, and she doesn’t need a reason for that. however… is yuno herself pro-life? she said she doesn’t disagree that abortion is murder ? i would completely disagree with her on that
I think that she is prochoice, just in a more nonchalant way. She clearly states that she didn’t feel like she was taking a life when she had the abortions, and I’m 100% certain from her personality and how she talks about it that she doesn’t care at all if other people have them. I think it’s more that she won’t fight someone on it if they disagree with her
@@ac-gf4zt hmm yeah you’re right! it’s kind of odd how abortion as a topic is handled in milgram though, i get the narrative they were going for sorry wise but i don’t see how an abortion got yuno in milgram
@@seraphiinas I definitely agree. I think a lot of the problem is that Milgram wasn’t prepared for such a large western audience, who generally has much more open views on abortion. I often see people argue that Yuno must have done more, she must have killed one of the people she was dating or something, that the abortion isn’t enough to make her “murder” controversial, but I don’t think that’s true. I just think the writers didn’t think people would feel so strongly in one direction about her story. And so they’re in kind of a weird position now. I love her and her character anyway though, and I hope she gets the 3/3 innocent verdict she deserves
@@seraphiinas So, as to why Yuno is in milgram, here’s my take on it:
MILGRAM doesn’t necessarily take in people who have committed first degree murder. I think Milgram takes people who think, or are aware, they’ve committed murder. If you really think about it, while some find their own actions justifiable, no one will deny they have committed murder (well aside from Mikoto, but he’s a special case).
I think Yuno sees abortion as murder, that’s why she’s here in the first place. She also doesn’t seem to like herself very much, and this voice drama seems to somewhat imply that she doesn’t want to be taken lightly for her “crime”. She wants people to see it for what she sees it as, taking a life.
I think she has somewhat of a conflict with herself: she sees abortions as murder yet she didn’t feel like she committed murder when she herself did it, which would technically go against her own beliefs, possibly leading her to dislike herself.
I think Yuno sees herself as guilty, and I think she felt unjustified when people were making all kinds of excuses to voting her innocent, when she herself didn’t think that way.
Just my theory tho, it can all fall apart if Yuno doesn’t actually consider herself a murderer. But the voice drama seems to imply exactly that.
most Asian cultures see abortion as murder so she may be affected by these traditional values
Love the whole "being serious is boring" approach.
like fr gurl preach
Abortion is simply not a murder. That's my reasoning.
thank you yuno for giving us es gap moe 🙏🙏🙏
ユノ本気で賢くて好き〜♡
冷静なのがいい ミルグラムとか私らのことをどこまで見抜いてくれるんだろ
Could you do Kazui’s first trial voice drama next? Also THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TRANSLATING THESE!!!
When she speaks in a very low voice it makes her sound like hanako....I think
(SPOILER) because some people don’t know how to put that
I feel like they want to sell us on the fact that she’s a bad character but I feel like we’re all in agreement that what she did simply wasn’t a crime
I think moving forward with her innocent vote, one of three things could happen
1. They try to sell us on pro life by having her think about the life of the baby that could’ve happened or have her grow malicious to the idea of abortion.
2. Decide there’s no where else to go with her character, her case has already been solved, kill her off
3. Somehow someway, get her knocked up by someone and see how her stance develops then(which I think will be the most interesting)
But yes easy innocent vote, the most I could knock her for is a slight attitude adjustment but even then that’s just petty
tbh i feel like she will sleep with like kazui or shidou bc she's obvi so lonely since milgram
@@enaemon0787kazui is a gay or bi... Though he did a wife
@@enaemon0787kazui is a gay or bi... Though he did a wife
@@enaemon0787 kazui is not into women and shidou will probably get killed off in t3
YOURE A LIFE SAVER
Interesting... just some mindless thoughts her but, I had wondered why she was doing compensated dating despite seeming to hate much of it, but I guess she doesn't have too big of a reason, and if she does, I guess it'll be revealed eventually. She had a decent family and seemingly no urgent financial situation after all. I hadn't been here when the first trial happened, welp. But... I do find it interesting that they hear the voices of the comments. All of them.
funny how 273.15°C means absolute zero, and is the lowest amount of energy possible on a thermometer. milgram really thought this through
She did not lie ONCE, only spat FACTS. I love her
Also yuno and es’ relationship is so interesting
Yeah I notice Es is actually gentle with her same with Mahiru.
@@Red_567 real and before yuno seemed to really respect es but now she's so cold because of the vote but they're also the only person that ever saw her this way... im obsessed
@@Red_567mappi and es is so wholesome im going to cry
6:42
the comments:
"Yunocest, lol"
"YASSSSS QUEEN SLAAAAYYY"
"the real reason she was in milgram is because she killed the sunglasses"
"My girl legit murdered sunglasses"
"her crime is abortion, right? then obviously gonna forgive her"
"i don't really care how "cold" and "troublesome" she gets. she shouldn't be in milgram to begin with" - Kirigiri Kyouko
"wait why is she here then? it's just abortion?"
"her body her choices"
"I like it when she says “its yuno time” and yun’s all over everybody" - denumbug
"she's self-aware, I like that!"
"She has the right to decide if she wants to be pregnant or not" - Magnus Shibley
"I think Yuno misunderstood. We're not forgiving her because we think she's a innocent, naive, little girl or because we think she has a reason. We're forgiving her because it's her body and her choice, and it's not a crime to do what YOU want to do with your body" - oof
"girl ate and left no crumbs"
"queen who didnt do anything wrong"
Yuno just be a bad b in her bag and i respect it so much. i know she dgaf but im so glad everyone loved her even more and voted innocent xD
6:04 *yay! 😊*
THANK YOUU
sugar-daddying 💀
Hmm I would have liked to see her voted 50% Innocent and 50% guilty, the verdict of her results doesn’t matter so it well enough should be that (or more like innocent, 50%, guilty) though it’s highly improbable.
The question of whether any of them are alive is a great one If this was a game that I could play for myself I simply wouldn’t vote but since it’s all of our opinions that may not even matter, what’s the point in not voting for something, this is for our own amusement or other reasons after all;
I mean if that was to be some how confirmed, then we’d formulate our own reasoning behind it just as Yuno said, something like in this case since we voted Amane guilty or vote her guilty again, it could lead to some form of hell instead of the wanted results of her learning that cults ideology is wrong.
In the end I guess all that really matters is the crowds of people with the same opinions; whether the results lead to freedom, prosecution, punishment, religious outcome or nothing at all doesn’t matter does it, it’s just about the tidal wave of super ego’s, opinions.
I wonder what this game is all about and if we will get to judge Es (or the masses opinions projected into Es and spat out by him using his ideology,)nin the upcoming years?
Yo la declararía culpable, pero solo porque quiero saber que pasa xd
okay, OKAY, -273.15°C (0 K), she wants a fun reason to be forgiven, okay, here's one, she's hot and Jackalope said it's okay to forgive people because they're hot, end of discussion. (Help, I think I'm getting too involved in a fictitious judgment)
It’s funnier like that
LETS GO
brah why is she even here😭😭
meanwhile in the comments of tear drop, people are literally proving yuno's point while simultaneously stating it out loud by voting her innocent
I’m not gonna vote her guilty either. I mean I don’t see abortion as murder, if it gets her away from punishment an innocent vote isn’t bad.
well she is innocent she didn't commit murder at all
Yeah, I'm not used to people making that big of a deal for an abortion. From my perspective, it feels as if the writers are trying too hard to make her a gray character when in reality she's just white. Then again, I know I only feel that way because of my enviroment. Lots of people would be outraged by her.
Maybe Yuno play along and the murder isn't abortion but kill one of her sugar daddy?
@@Laupsonic I don't think she could have hidden her crime that perfectly, especially from a mind reading machine.
I bet the creators will make her cover "get that fetus, kill that fetus" next just to make her "controversial" /jk
I don't think she's guilty personally because she's not actually murdering anyone imo because when people get abortions they're usually these tiny things smaller than ur fingertips that aren't conscious... The only thing she might be guilty for is like lying to her sugar daddies abt her age, but this is a trial for murder not withholding info or lying.
I saw a lot of people during the first trial say like "she should learn her lesson" but why? Like just let her do what she wants, of course the physical effects of abortions can be bad but having multiple babies can not only be bad for your body but also ur entire life. Loved ones might shun you, your babies will grow up in unsafe and unhappy environments if you don't want them... Like she's being kinda reckless but at least not to the point where she is damaging other people for the long term... Plus it's not like its not consensual.
But what really is the difference btwn a guy doing what she does and her doing it other than the fact that people try to have more control over a woman's body and create more stigma and shame? Of course, there's the dangers of abortions and pregnancies but guys can get people pregnant, but they aren't shamed, and they certainly aren't shamed by the public if they run away as much as the girls who are shamed in those situations because she had sex...
Anyways vote her not guilty!! UH this is just my opinion ofc but idk i wanted to get it out
Just because they are small doesn't mean they're not conscious, by the time pregnancy tests show results they alr have a heartbeat and have a brainstem
@ThumbzUpSteve then is the tiny beings life more important than the person who's carrying it who still has an entire future ahead of them?
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@@minsun4046exactly... and the baby can have a bad life not just a good life... They always be ignoring ppls bad lives smh
I absolutely agree I saw the comments last trail and to say I was shocked trying to reason with killers is insane even if they had a reason you can relate to they still killed someone. I think people a lot of people are trying to rationalise killing due to the strong thing that humans due witch is trying to find reason I understand a lot of killers aren’t mentally okay and need help but that does not justify killing (also I don’t think abortion is murder) but honestly this test is to see how as humans respond and change due to people reasoning and attitude and I think they are all guilty douse they killed I can feel bad for certain points but there is no saving them course they are killers
The number is somewhat interesting, I doubt it's picked at random, but the closest thing I could find was the freezing point of helium(-272°C) but even still it's one degree off.
I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be “Below Zero”! As in she doesn’t “feel warm”.
@@ac-gf4zt ohhhh thanks I get it now -0.15°K, literally below absolute zero.
-273.15°C is absolute zero. The Japanese name for this voice drama is exactly 絶対零度/absolute zero.
It's 0K, the lowest temp something can get
Oh I remember how I singlehandedly destroyed several acres of forest by eating a bowl of Siberian cedar seeds
Thank you for the translations!
why she kinda look like Nicole
💀 wait I see the resemblance
YOURE KINDA RIGHT
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Just some thoughts:
I think yuno is a psychopath. Not the murder kind, but the literal kind. She stated that her sugar daddies don't give her the warmth she wanted (alluding to lack of empathy). She puts up a convincing cute front, and has been described as being cold and calculating many times.
She is also usually in complete control of the situation, and she Never showed an emotion besides irritation
While her crime is mundane, I think what they want us to consider is that should we vote innocent someone who is literally a psychopath, because their crime is basically nothing.
YES SOMEONE SAID IT, I KNEW IT SHE WAS OFF, someone said they cant lie in miligram so it doesn't we are seeing all the facades
can I ask where you got that sprite of Yuno from? it's not the main one on the site. I see it on the album cover, but that's not transparent or (afaik) as high-def
It’s simply the one from her album cover, posted on their Twitter. I cut it out and made it transparent myself
@@ac-gf4zt oh cool good job then! thank you :)
ohh interesting
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I genuinely don’t think abortion is the only “murder” guys😭 Idk if I’m wrong but it just feels like the death scenes from Undercover wouldn’t make sense if it was abortion. Like, she’s clearly seen standing over someone. But again, idk.
remember kids, abortion is murder without a victim!
though I think Yuno fundamentally understands this - hence why she calls herself a respectable murderer. Nobody else is getting hurt by it, technically speaking. She knows what she did is wrong, but she’s also doing compensated dating (it’s prostitution) to make herself feel warm/happy. Pregnancy is just a bothersome side-effect of it.
Personally, I think she engages in the whole situation by taking on different personas to feel loved; but she finds her clients disgusting, and us, for psycho analyzing and laying assumptions about her.
Her true personality is icier, monotone and serious compared to the bubbly sweet character she tried to play herself up as for her clients (and es initially.)
On a grand scale, Yuno isn’t a bad person, but she’s using compensated dating as a cover for wanting to be loved. She becomes the person who we want her to be - but she wants to be seen for herself and that her sense of self is stable regardless of what we think/judge.
People who vote her innocent. Most likely you'll be in for a surprise in the third trial.
Think about it, People are mostly voting for her innocence even though the writers specifically want her to be voted guilty, even she said she wanted to be voted guilty in her MV. Most likely this is a reverse psychology type deal. Since Milligram voted her innocent again in the second trial. I have a feeling that most likely, Prisoner number 10 or prisoner number 08 would try and hurt her.
No matter if you think Abortion is murder or not, we don't know what the characters think about that. However, i have a prediction that amane wouldn't be so keen about that, we never know.
However it is for certain that Yuno, most likely with her validated the second time, won't make it out unscathed.
Personal opinion: I don't know why people keep voting her innocent. No matter your thoughts about her murder, she acknowledges that she has no remorse for it and that she'll keep doing it. I feel like that, paired with the crime, makes it way worse.
People keep voting her Innocent because abortion literally just isnt murder, meaning she doesnt even NEED to be forgiven for murder. Its as simple as that. It doesnt MATTER if she feels remorse or not, because she didnt do anything wrong in the first place.
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You're not only supposed to vote on just their crime alone or forgiveness. But you also need to take into account if you want to affirm their ideas or not. You saw it with Futa, you saw it with Haruka, you saw it with Makoto, and amane (and maybe Mu) we made the wrong decisions and it caused a whole lot of trouble with them in the first round.
All of them are murderers. Yuno too. She wouldn't be there if it's not considered to be a murder. Many doctors who are pro-choice and even perform these abortions themselves agree that a child from conception has the full DNA making of a human being and by the 1-3 week, the heart is beating. Thus proof of the baby being a living thing. Thus killing it would ultimately be, murder. How can a heartbeat stopping mean death, but a heartbeat starting doesn't mean life?
Anyways I'm not here to go into a full blown argument on abortion because I'm not here for that.
However it is for certain that whatever you think of abortion, two things are true.
1. The abortion(s)was the murder she had done.
2. Yuno has no intention of stopping from doing her crime over and over again.
In Yuno's first trial, we see that she could have had three more abortions at the end, all with a smile on her face. On her second trial, she literally said to vote for her guilty because she knows she's a murderer, which can be supported by her second voice drama which she admitted she didn't care about it.
The writers are telling us to vote her guilty for a reason, especially with Amane around, I don't know if she'd let Yuno off too kindly. Again just a theory. Plus, this innocent verdict can possibly change her for the worse, just like how it did Amane, Mu, Haruka, etc.
@@Sleepy-Koala 1.) Its a murder *according to MILGRAM.* We already know that MILGRAM considers multiple things to be "murder" that OBJECTIVELY arent. Kazui even outright says that if MILGRAM considers him a murderer, its definition of murder is too broad.
Abortion is objectively not murder because whether a thumb-sized bundle of cells has a heartbeat or not is really the most irrelevant thing about it.
2.1) Yuno answered the question "If you coud turn back time, would you commit the same murder again" in her 2nd Trial Interrogation questions with "Id make sure that i dont have to commit it. thats all".
2.2) Quite frankly she could get an abortion every two months and shed still be in the right to do it. The "She has no remorse and kept doing it!" argument falls completely flat because *there is no need for remorse in the first place.*
3.) Does she ACTUALLY ever say to vote her guilty though? She explicitly says that her issue isnt being forgiven itself, but being forgiven based on the arbitrary assumption that she must be a pitiful victim with a tragic backstory. She is also pretty clear that she hates MILGRAMs system and its judgment in general.
4.) You are assuming that just because the writers are trying to push us into voting her guilty, its the "correct" answer, instead of simply challenging whether we will stand by our vote if she isnt the, to quote Yuno herself, "acceptable" version of herself a section of the fanbase expected her to be.
Yes, voting Prisoners innocent made them worse... and so did voting them guilty. I dont think ANY verdict is going to help these characters. If we voted her Guilty, it wouldve just messed her up someother way. Because "helping them" or "making them understand their mistakes" is not the purpose of the Votes. The purpose is to judge whether you forgive them or not.
Quite frankly the only way i could see the votes ACTUALLY having a positive effect on any of them is if we either somehow managed to completely abstain from voting (which is not gonna happen) or get a perfect 50/50 split (which is incredibly prone to just end in unwanted results via last second votes). Because the actual real Milgram experiment was about peoples willingness to hurt someone because an authority figure gave them the okay, which seems to very clearly be what we are doing.
A question though, when on her MV she said she wanted to be voted guilty?
I think she doesn't care rather she's votes innocent or guilty, she just don't want to be seen as a poor naive girl. She said "Innocent? I'm not so that" in the meaning of being pure, since lots of people thought she were
That's what i think though
I might get flamed for this take but Yuno is my least favourite prisoner. It seems like she gets to do whatever she wants without any sense of responsibility. I personally don’t mind abortion as a last resort, but abusing this service to fix your irresponsibilities just because it’s convenient doesn’t sit right with me at all. Like she could’ve gone on birth control or used a condom at least??? And she explicitly stated that it wasn’t like she didn’t have a choice. Maybe it’s because I have quite strong morals, but it pains me to see how abortion is not a big deal to a lot of people at all, at least in this comment section.
Someone has to say it and Kotoko called her out on it to
Yuno elle dis les termes.
is that some kind of joke I thought that all the prisoners her are killers, I suddenly lost all the interest that I have in milgram there is no point in forgiving an innocent person.
You don't get it.
If that's your point of vision then Fuuta and Mahiru(probably Kazui too) are also not killers.
Milgram is all about leading someone to death, and Yuno with her abortion, leaded a fetus to death.
Her whole trial is not about her crime but about herself- If we will forgive her and let her continue doing what she's doing, what's pretty much that.
Fuuta doxxed someone and unintentionally made them kill themselves, he didn't killed anyone. Mahiru was on a toxic relationship and leaded her partner to death, also didn't killed. Kazui lied to his wife and when he said the truth, she killed herself, again, he didn't killed someone, he leaded someone to death.
You don't need to kill someone directly to be in Milgram, you just need to lead someone to death.
It's because Milgram's interpretation of 'murderer' is so loose. Take somebody like Futa, who never directly injured anybody, he technically isn't a murderer. Yuno being here doesn't mean they are making a statement like 'abortion is murder' but they are challenging that idea instead.
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What kinda irritates me about her case is purely the fact that if it is just abortion, then she shouldn’t be here? The only way it could be considered “actual murder” in my eyes is if the baby is already is already in the 3rd trimester, and she’s “aborting” then in her own way. Even then, I personally don’t care enough about a baby with no genuine personality for it to make sense to me.
I wish there was more to her story then just “abortion” because there will never be a thought of her being guilty. At this rate, she doesn’t even need to be here, I don’t care if there are people who SEE it as murder, it’s not, and it’s as clear as that. It’s not murder unless that baby is in the third trimester or born. That might make things more complicated, otherwise, it’s not a question. That’s the only reason I don’t like her case, because it doesn’t feel like a case, it feels like she’s there for the pro-lifers and genuinely, their thoughts and opinions don’t matter at all🤷
she literally just got rid of a bundle of cells, not a whole baby human. she doesnt deserve to be there, and you can see she clearly doesnt regret it and she feels better knowing she isnt carrying what she describes (as far as i can recall) a "sensation"
@@ilikescatsalot i don’t exactly know…if you were agreeing or disagreeing with me- but I do know that it’s just a bundle of cells and I also know she doesn’t feel bad for I’m just…kinda not sure what was the point of your comment???
@@nikkiloveseverything1735 i am agreeing with you
I think she did the abort by herself(or maybe she killed the baby after they were born), not in some kind of hospital and something
And all the milgram thing is about people who lead someone to death, not that murdered someone
That's what I think, at least
She lived in Florida for a vacation so they sent her to MILGRAM
What are this for serie?
Why they called him “Warden-san”
-san is a Japanese suffix which could be compared to as Mr./Mrs. in English so when they say warden-san they’re being polite
@@Player-zp9cz Then the amazing adults are their with the Kun making Es so very unnerved with seeing what adults can be like
Idk girl ,go home
Yuno, your real personality kinda disgust me.. but still Im voting you forgiven. You do you
shes kinda annoying now... also honestly HOW is abortion murder?
Really...i think Yuno is trying to run away from the guilt... killing the child since she knew she might get attached.... that's why being so cold and not valuing ethics at all
Really the child doesn't have an opinion before its born
are you going to translate the latest drama cd with futa? there's only the Japanese version on thick, and it's hard to judge just by it.