Top 10 Motorcycle Failures (and some winners)
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Here are some of the dumbest idea ever tried by motorcycle manufacturers...and a few brilliant ones too!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:39 Weird Front Suspension
3:56 Fuel Injection
5:10 ABS
6:14 Turbo Motorcycles
8:02 6 Cylinder Bikes
9:01 Rotary Engines
10:18 Liquid Cooling
10:59 Twin Spar Frame
12:07 Ride By Wire
12:58 Power Scooter - Комедії
Damn... I love the NM4, kind of what I picture futuristic cruisers looking like
Exactly. Came out of nowhere blindsided us. I love the NM4.
I knew I couldn't be the only one out there ❤
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I owned a 1979 Honda CBX for 14 years. It was a fantastic bike with the best sound a motorcycle has ever made if you had the 6-into-1 exhaust system, which I did. There have been other 6 cylinder bikes since but the CBX was the only one designed as a high performance machine. The others have been designed as cruisers or touring bikes.
I wouldn't mind having one, or at least the engine to build a track day sports car around.
Do you think the 6-into-1 sounded that much better than twin 3-to-1 because of the arrangement or because of the muffler and header tuning?
You also can't forget about the Kawasaki KZ1300. It was also an inline 6 and actually made 120 HP just one year after the CBX was released. It also lasted 10 years in production.
I had the 1980, first year KZ1300A. It had a black Windjammer fairing. It was a nice-riding and powerful machine, except short-legged me had to left-foot, right-foot it at stops.
I owned a GTS1000 for around 4 years. It was a fantastic long-distance mile-muncher, and a fun scratcher in the twisties. Super comfortable, quick, and the handling was was absolutely rock solid. The down side was the fact that there was absolutely ZERO feedback through the bars. Pushing it too hard into corners came with the risk that there would be no forewarning of any loss of grip. I certainly never regretted buying it though.
I rode one very soon after it came out on PCH 1 (I was 20 years old, ran into another rider randomly while on my CBR600, he insisted I ride the bike he had bought that week) and it was glorious. Many years later I bought what I consider the spiritual successor to it...the BMW K1200R which had the tele lever front suspension.
While I do respect alternative front suspension, my last bike had massive upside down front forks and impossibly large Brembo brakes, while being 150 pounds lighter and making 50 more HP. Technology marches on.
Someone rode this thing in the IoM TT and finished pretty respectably so it wasn’t all bad. I think the main problem was the price which was over £10k which was pretty steep when a similar bike was about £8k.
@@johnludmon510 Yep, it was quite expensive at the time
One major problem was the wheel size. With a smaller 120mm test had shown much better handling. But Yamaha unfortunately didn't change. The bike was one of the best tourers build at that time.
exactly. Great bike, but the front end felt so, so dead.. no feedback at all.. pity, because i really loved riding that bike!
I love Honda Vultus/NM4. I wanted to buy one, but there are not many on the market.
Ide love a Honda nsr 500 there price is ungodly tho so I'll stick to racing around on my lil 2005 gsxr 600 might even slap a 750cc or 1000cc engine in it for lols since I'm rebuilding it anyway
No way I was just binge watching your channel because it’s snowing down here in Texas 🤣
excluding race engines, we have the cbx1000, Benelli 750 sei, the Benelli 900 sei, the Bmw k1600, the honda goldwing and valkyrie, the kawasaki z1300.. Horex did a V6, as did Laverda (although I have no idea if that was mass produced, I suspect not..) there are more six pots than you realise.
And the current gen Goldwing is one of the very greatest. That thing pulls like a truck made of butter.
The end part is what makes the difference. Always a thrill to see your videos!
"They use a triangular shaped Dorito" 🤣🤣
what other shaped Dorito is there
The single rear suspension, the self canceling turn signal lights/winker, it was mentioned on the 50th anniversary of Cycle World.
Here's a winner for you. The first ever production front disk brake was introduced in 1962 on the Lambretta TV175.
My favorite innovation that has never to my knowledge been copied is on my Benelli 900 Tre. It has the radiator behind the seat rather than at the front of the bike, enabling the engine to be mounted further forward putting more weight over the front wheel, and also reducing the width of the bike so the front end was more streamlined. Brilliant idea with the cooling fans behind the seat blowing out hot air, which is also great for warming your hands on frosty days.
in 93, I took the Yamaha GTS1000 for a test through Yellowstone National Park. The motor was amazing, and the power delivery was spot on. Grabbing a handful of front brake at 90mph, 2-up and zero headbang! Tight turning in small areas at slow speeds was the weakness.
your keep watching segments at the end are always the very best
Norton built some rotary engine motorcycles in the '80s and some of them had some racing success.
GPZ750Turbo was one of my favorites.
I owned a GTS1000 (no abs) and it was a great bike. I think I bought it in early 1995 second hand and sold it end of 1997. Drove to work every day even in winter and went with it on holiday from the Netherlands to Poland, many road trips sometimes with 2. For me. a perfect bike. Some flaws, it was quite heavy, and 5 speed not 6. I have to say it was tuned slightly when I bought it, and on the dyno it had 100 din ps on the rear wheel. It was electronically limited at 240 km/h, which it quickly reached also with 2 people on the bike, and it could easily hold that speed for over an hour. (But then needed a refuel). Great bike. Commercially not a succes.
Cycle Guide was owned and published by my my cousin - Bill Quinn - The six was front heavy as well.
I was wondering if you’d have shaft drive on the list. I don’t know much about it except that I don’t seem to see it anymore.
that pc with 4090 is a nice way to spend wnter time ) I always miss my bike the second it starts getting cold and snowy. those 3/4 months of waiting until its a steady 12 degrees or higher again.. And you notice on the dutch roads the second its ovr 12 degrees. They all come out people complain about all the motorcycles on the road and by the time its summer things have slowed down again and people are used to it again
A GST? They must've mislabeled the bike lol
Could be worst: "The LGBT 1000".
cable throttle bikes had traction control as well using secondaries / ignition timing to get the similar result where as fly by wire just meant you could lob the secondaries and just have the ecu manipulate the primaries separate from rider input. im guessing this was done because early fly by wire in cars was very hit and miss (delayed response).
The honda power scooter seems to be a bike to resemble the one from Akira. Is more a tribute to fans than something to the general market
Excellent work! Very informative.
The first electric start Motorcycle was the Harley-Davidson Duo-Glide, introduced in 1965. This innovative bike featured an electric starter motor that eliminated the need for kick-starting, making it easier and more convenient for riders to start their motorcycles.
Errr... The 1914 Indian Hendee Special had electric start...
First harley maybe. But definitely not the first. As said they had them way back in 1914.
So many things get so called invented in modern times. Only for you to find out it was thought of way back in the beginning of cars n motorcycles, some 120 years ago
Even the Honda 90 had it in 1962, but not a big bike though .
What about that AWD Honda or Ducatti race bike with the hydrostatic front wheel drive?
A plethora of valid information as always. If you're Yammie Noob, I guess I'm Yammie Old School? My definition of sport touring is steel frame, carbureted 1200cc, non-ABS, 6.6 gallons of fuel and someone with a death grip riding safely on the back. Yamaha of course.
My GPZ750 turbo was the most fun bike I've ever owned.
how many 6 cylinder bikes have you seen since the cbx's disciontinuation. quite alot ie, honda goldwing.
That’s crazy the first ride by wire was on a R6. I didn’t know that I would’ve thought it was one of the expensive Euros or Italians
Way back in the seventies while in college I was working at a hotel Suzuki was introducing the rotary bike they brought it into the banquet facility It was so different it amazed me. I was riding a Yamaha XS 650 at the time. Styling comes and go. The retro bikes are cool again. I have a thruxton young again 😊
I love the styling of those Xs650 bikes!
Working on bringing a '78 back to life at the moment
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Randon I know, but when I was racing sled-dogs, at a latitude where we don't get much snow, we used scooters and rigs made from bicycle parts, I had the lightest scooter, but one guy had a rig made with what could only be describes as an Aluminium twin spar. it looked good, and was fast, but bounce around quite badly, just as I found with the lightest scooter... stability was not the strong point of these things, yet the nimbleness and ability to change direction so fast is what allowed us to win races. more so than the abilities of the dogs pulling them!
The GPZ750 was actually amazing. The rest were messes, but the GPZ was a real machine
Lol, actually when I started loving bikes the first one was Honda gwing and the second one the NM4 vultus
I see you're a person of culture 🧐
I love riding my 750 turbo. So much fun 😁
What about the anti dive systems. Neat idea to stiffen the dampening while braking, but it never worked well enough and made the braking sluggish.
Didn't the R1250GS have something like this? Telelever I believe it was called
I'm still sad on the fact that the NM4 failed. Loved the bike when it appeared on the Kamen Rider series, specifically Kamen Rider Drive.
Skunk Works X-59 is practically a time machine. You should get one & let us know if electric motorcycles will ever be a success. I think 100+ years is a long enough wait. Cheers
I own a 2002 BMW R-1150-RS with both Telelever and Paralever suspension. The 2002 model is a second generation, with refinements to these suspension components, as well as the engine/drivetrain, and ABS brakes. I find the suspension is stable and precise in the twisting back roads, as well as comfortable for all day rides. A feature I especially appreciate is Anti-Dive is built-in so there's almost no dive when braking hard, which improves stability heading into corners. The engine is well-made, with 10,000-km valve adjustments hardly ever needed. Once broken in they pretty much stay at specifications. The brakes are great as the ABS has solenoid power assist. I can brake as hard as I want without worry I'll break traction.
I still want a NM4 just because it's so sci-fi and goofy. It's like if the Akira bike became a mobility scooter.
A bigger fail than the Suzuki RE5 was the Hercules Wankel 2000.
An air-cooled rotary, which ran on oil/gas mixture, with a blower in front that gave it the nickname "the vacuum cleaner"
my first bike way back when had carbs and i did not care for it. the work it took to take apart the bike, remove the carbs, clean them, and then put it all back together is why fuel injection is so great.
In 1993,my dealer had a gts 1000 and a zx11,was a tough choice at the time, both had something to offer, went with the zx11,i made the right choice!
The last honda reminded me id only seen one kid in school riding a bike besides myself, he had one and i had absolutely no clue what it was
that last bike actually looks pretty neat
My dad has that gts1000. Only bike he kept over the years. His other bikes come and go
The harley vrod is my favorite win/fail
I absolutely adore the NM4 Vultus and I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL.
I was about to whip you like a rented mule when you started on the CBX. However, you redeemed yourself. While a flat plane 4 cylinder sounds cool, in my opinion, nothing sounds as good as CBX running a modified exhaust. They were a little clunky an chunky for sure. I was fortunate enough to ride my friends CBX, many times.
GT750 two-stroke with expansion chambers is a pretty mean sound!
Most motorcycles lack one thing that I think should be standard and that's an oil dipstick. I HATE having to get down on my knees with a flashlight just to check my oil.
I have two bikes from different manufacturers with a dip stick as we speak
one of mine has a dpistick and the other a sight glass, to be honest I kinda prefer the sight glass
doesn't the GoldWing have a flat six? Can't rly be a "FAIL" if it's the backbone of such an old and successful nameplate
What about the Norton rotary, dominated British super bikes for a few years
I owned one of the bikes on the list it was the Suzuki GT750 l loved that motorcycle and at the same time my brother had the Suzuki RE5 yes the infamous rotary and l rode it a couple of times it was very quick and after riding it l was never going to challenge my brother to a drag race it was faster than my GT750 he used to blow of Honda CB750s as for the fuel injection on the Kawasaki Z1000 worked well on the rode but not on the race track as for the turbo motorcycles as much as a normally aspirated with a bigger engine were cheaper and much faster so they were a fail
I'll be honest, I would love to see manufactures revisit some of the classic bikes and remake them with today's technology! I just love the straight seat, chrome bikes but they are just too horrible to own and ride one in todays world, lack of power, vibration problems, no brakes etc. lol what I would do to have a nice new CB400SS that had a 3 cylinder 850cc engine in it!!
Another fail was in 1994 the Aprilia Moto 6.5. Also 30 years ago.
Do another Scooter video soon with scooters like the Zuma, or maxi scooters even. For $1000 a Zuma 125 and similar scooters are a good buy lol
Or maybe do a similar video to Motorcycle Magazine and take the small scooters ADV riding, but maybe try with a 2stroke or 125cc+. It’s cool to see what they are capable of and there aren’t many videos.
The Norton rotary was reasonably successful, many Police forces in England used them and they had great success in racing. A 'winner', literally but ultimately a commercial 'fail'. The general rider just didn't want them.
You must also consider the Van Veen rotary engined bike. A brave attempt but not to my taste. DKW also made a foray into the world of rotary powered motorcycles. Along with the RE5, a whole video in itself I reckon!
Love the videos. I sometimes have to re-wind because you talk so fast, I hope you're not a robot. Love and peace.
As a proud owner of a Honda CX500 Turbo i can tell you that it's definetly a fail if you're a reasonable human beeing. If you like rare, pointless and crazy cool bikes from the 80s like me, it's the best fail there ever was and i would buy one again no doubt. Greetings from Austria (Arnold Schwarzenegger, not Kangoroos)
HOREX had a six cylinder motorcycle with an engine based on the VW VR6 as far as I know
some of the fails were down to the tech of the time they were first made! a rotary is a brilliant engine for a bike with how much people have improved on designs! and lets face it we all want a bike that sounds like a rotary or a smooth inline 6
The problem with the rotary engine is it is inefficient and won’t meet emissions regulations. The RE5 was slower than a GT550 and used more fuel and oil than a GT 750. The RE5 nearly bankrupted Suzuki and apart from Mazda’s RX7 nobody has made much of a success with a car or motorcycle with the rotary engine.
@@johnludmon510Norton have made some decent rotary powered bikes! Then last year or the year before there was the new race bike I can’t remember the name of CR700? That thing is an animal
@@matthewjones6276 Sadly not for the last time the then owners of the Norton name bankrupted the company with some financial skullduggery having taken quite a few people’s money for shares and deposits on bikes. The problem’s with the engines and emissions regulations have killed the engine in bikes and cars (I believe the engine was meant to be an aircraft engine originally). The race bikes were fast and did win British championships but the other riders didn’t like them spraying oil out and the rules had been tweaked to get them onto the grid.
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Gen-X here, I forgot we used to have "starter fluid" for anything except campfires.
Fail! YAMAHA XZ550 Vision. Question: what manufacturer has had the most fails?
I was told the 2010 Honda VFR 1200f was the first motorcycle with fly-by-wire. Maybe what they meant is it was the first HONDA with fly-by-wire.
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most common six cylinder is the Honda Gold Wing still made today.
I dont really understand on why the Honda NM4 is considered a fail , can someone explain?
It just didn't sell well. I for one would absolutely love to put one in my garage, but they're rare as hens teeth.
Want an NM4... I want one bad!! 😅
6:20 I think it's time for turbos to come back to motorcycles...
With more and more strict emissions on I.C.E's I think we will see a return of some turbos. It would be see interesting to see a turbo V-4 fuel injected machine. Are you listening to me Ducati/Aprillia/Yamaha? (think turbo Street Fighter, Factory or V-Max!)
@@patrickroberts7513 v4 are too complex... If we get turbos from an OEM are going to be in a parallel twin ...
Yamaha didn't design the front suspension on the GTS 1000. James Parker designed it and patented it in 1985. Yamaha licensed the designed and used it.
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Imagine the sound of rotory motorcycles reving at 10k rpm. That would sound even better than a Honda CBR250..
Check out the Norton rotary race bikes. Carl Fogarty has made UA-cam videos. Also Rotron still make them.
Another big WIN was the Harley-Davidson Softail frame & suspension system. 😅
Gimme a V6 supersport, it has to be done.
Carb rebuild kit 20 bucks! In the tool bag Injection system ? On the side of the road call AAA
Heres another fail: the Ducati Indiana was Ducati's failed attempt at getting into the cruiser market back in the 80s
Honda magna huge success
It's weird you don't hear more about them honestly, they're a seriously cool and quite weird bike. Also, V4 fam for life. ✌️
I’ve never had to walk because a carburetor completely shit The bed. Can’t say the same thing about the fuel pump required for fuel injection.
Never had float stick and flood fuel all over your engine (and back tyre)?
@@n4s117 sure I have but float’s don’t stick. It’s usually a dirty needle and seat. Easy fix even on the road unlike a dead fuel pump.
I put it to you, speaking of motorcycle companies taking risks, the only big one that's taken any risk is Harlalalaley with that livewire thing. That was a massive risk, gotta respect them for that.
Edit: I mean in the past 15 years or so, not... Ever.
Anything OCC produced
I got a chance to ride a CBX back in the 70's. I expected to be on a rocketship. It wasn't near as fast as I expected. Maybe it was my exoeriences with a couple of H1s, one modified. Also the CBX had a horrible weave that set in at about 90mph. horrible motorcycle, big fail in my opinion.
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The turbo motorcycle fad from the 1980s would work with modern technology
Since you can currently get 200 HP from a naturally-aspirated engine there really isn't any need for a turbocharger with its additional cost, complication, and weight.
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@@littleshopofelectrons4014 I want to see turbo small displacement bikes
@@countryguywithcamera Sounds like a fun idea but literally unnecessary since whatever power you get from a small displacement turbo, you'd be able to get anyway with a larger displacement naturally aspirated engine with more predictable throttle control. Turbo motorbikes will never be a thing unless forced to by strict emission standards one day...
@shabs2134 I've seen the old ex250 ninjas making 50+hp with turbo setups with minimal effort.
They are insanely fun machines with their power to weight ratios.
With modern turbo technology and modern boost/fuel management it's doable.
Plus I would love my bike to make spoolie noises 🤣
Can we get a v6 triumph/ducati 😔
0:55 “Ready to Shit”
Ahahahaha how did I not hear it first time
I expected the Yamaha NIKEN to be no.1 on the list of failures..
I actually SAW one in the wild outside my house the other day, nearly dropped my phone. What an utterly bizarre thing. I'm glad they're still doing weird stuff though, I love weird bikes.
Did yammie cus!!
I always hear it called wankel engines. Since rotary engine includes piston airplane engines where the cylinders are in a circle pattern around the crankshaft.
Honda Pacific Coast from the late 80's. Absolutely the most boring bike I ever test rode!
Surprised you didn't talk about yamaha niken
As of 2023 They still make the Niken, just isn't shipped to North America anymore. That is six years of production and still going. Not really a fail just a little weird but the grip in corners is supposedly great without noticing any weird feeling
@plap. yes I love the bike but objectively the two front wheels is a failure but also could be a winner like says in title
@@animalgamer7517 mostly based on the MT09 as far as I've seen so it has a good, popular starting point
GTS
6 cilinders nowadays: BMW's K1600GT's and Goldwing flat six engines.
oh boy......
Well I still love my 75 Suzuki re5 she's metallic blue and for a 49 year old girl she's still sweet. ❤
RE5 also happens to be one of the 10 worst survival horror games.
Listen we can't all punch boulders for a living
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GTS! GTS! Is YN dyslexic or something?