America's Most Iconic Delivery System - Grumman LLV
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*buh* fairchild republic makes the A10 learn how to google! *buh*
2 second google search results:
“In 1987, the A-10 OEM Team and all A-10 assets were acquired by Grumman Corporation from Fairchild Republic Company”
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I was gonna mention how you said B21 instead of B2
where YF-23?
Please please oh please do a video on Leo major plump wireman (since when does editing a comment get rid of a heart 🦘🦘)
As a "retired" rural carrier, I can say this is one of the vehicles of all time. You could drive this thing into a crowd, and the crowd would get impatient.
HAHA
@@the_fat_electrician my friend who still drives these things could tell you hella llv stories.
*Keep uploading BA'ness on yt*
@@the_fat_electrician As a carrier since '86, the LLV was a godsend. The old POS Jeep was small, weak, and would roll over if you looked at it wrong. The biggest downside was the cheap-ass lock on the back door and that it's basically a Chevy S-10. Shout out to Arden Branch, Sacramento, CA, and my old customers at Timberlake Condos.
As they dwindled in number, many of us letter carriers would ask for the LLV's. Not because they were comfortable or drove well, but the mail just fit better than later models. Except in winter of course 😂
My Dad was a rural carrier when I was a kid. He started out with an old post office panel van he got at auction, but the OPEC gas crunch made him switch to a little Datsun B210 and then a 310, before retirement in the 80s.
I am here for unhinged Chubby Electron Man.
We come for the history lessons, we stay for the unhinged rants we all agree with.
me too
Typically same
But I am here for God's derpiest Blazer.
The Rotund Current Fellow
Why else would I pause my Doctor Who mid binge for?
My Dad is a mailman (close to retirement thank god). I played this for him and he just sat here laughing and saying “yep!” 😂 And at the end when you thank mailmen, he yelled out “You’re welcome! Hooah!” and flexed his muscles and started laughing more. He’s been a carrier for about 40 years now and he’s really been through it with that job. They really don’t get paid enough.
Totally agree. My aunt was a mail carrier for years. It destroyed her body, and playing their stupid games before they allowed her to retire with anything like what she'd earned destroyed it further.
Mad respect to your pops!
That story proves to me you have one hell of a dad. Tell him thank you for making my day :D Also have you shown him the video about the mailmen that held down their postal building during the war. That is another good one.
Fun fact: the USPS still operates a route in the Grand Canyon that is delivered via donkey/mules.
Still delivered by jeeps in rural Idaho.
That’s thing about a monopoly. You have to be complete. It’s not all upside.
@@karls4777 I'm curious, are they using new jeeps? or older jeeps like the cherokee xj?
That's exactly why the USPS is necessary. Because, by law, they must deliver to every registered address regardless of conditions. If it's not actively deadly to do so (or it's a Sunday or a government holiday), your mail will get delivered because it is required by law
There's even a place where it's delivered by ferry boat, all the people who live on the river have docks with mailboxes on them.
Some place like Amazon or UPS would look at the people in the Grand Canyon and go "nah, it's not profitable to deliver to you, so we won't... Either get a PO Box or move somewhere else". Which is why Amazon actually has contracts with the USPS for the Postal Service to deliver their packages to locations that aren't profitable for Amazon to deliver to
@christopherchambers2424 wrangler jk most right hand drive
I'm a postal carrier, and I think you're giving the truck a little more shit then it deserves. The LLV was only designed to run for 20 or so years, and its been 40. What we drive now are 75% duct tape and wishes. So these things are 20 years past their expiration and are still running every damn day non stop. I just think it deserves some credit for that.
He did say they were tough, it's certainly the most durable military project I've ever seen
You've never seen the list of items replaced at a 100k PMI service have you?
I remember my 7th grade AP history & government class & discussing the postal inspectors and their authority. Because of the supremacy clause a postal inspector with lights and sirens going at a 4 way stop would have the right of way if the other vehicles were a local PD, the state HiPo, or even an ambulance running code.
im a mechanic... i work on these (they even wanted ME!!! to still work on them, after i changed shops and moved 50 miles away)
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the pontiac 2.5 "iron duke" just sucks.... NVH is really bad... low power... sucks gas.... wears out fast
the tranny sucks.... the rear end sucks..... the frame sucks (S-10)......
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the body is fine.... but requires AIRCRAFT GRADE FLUSH RIVET MACHINE to work on..... which NO SHOP has
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idk..... i love and hate working on them
simple... usually
but then you get old 262 in the shop.... ya put in 4 ICMs and it STILL blows them up (wire is fine, ECU is fine, harness is fine.... just bad parts)
As a fellow carrier I'm pretty sure we could MAKE a new vehicle with duct tape. And wishes send a bit optimistic haha
If you wonder how serious the mail police could actually be back in the day, they recieved the Tommy gun before the Marines.
Everyone gets sht before the marines.
@@badgerwildgaming6908
that's because those crayon eaters keep breaking shit.
They're still pretty damn hardcore
@@badgerwildgaming6908 sounds like you are one. LoL
dear god if that doesnt say something about the mail police idk what does
Hi, I am a rural carrier. I love the LLVs they’re so iconic. They’re so roomy too. Problem is basically everything you just said haha. It’s a rolling metal box with basically zero safety. No heat, no air… it’s hot.. and bitter cold..You get dusty lukewarm air 😂 and if you get into an accident VS a bigger vehicle (semi) you’re toast. But man can it deliver some freaking mail.. and it will drive until the wheels fall off and more.
They don’t let us go on the highway really. Our scanners block out the highway. Going above 55 mph causes the LLV to rattle so hard it sounds like a huge earthquake and tornado at the same time. You can’t even hear the traffic around you. That’s really bad as the blind spot is HUGE. it’s like driving a semi truck. That’s how big the blind spot is.
They trained us on an obstacle course for a full day in order to drive the LLVs and do an pretty extensive driving test. You have to be able to maneuver the LLV like it’s an extension of your own body, which I can do now. They turn like a dream. You can turn so sharply it’s amazing! Man was it a long day learning to drive the LLV the safe and effective way. Bonus info: the post office does not allow you to back up unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. Like I said before the blind spot is huge behind the LLV and there are multiple other blind spots all around the vehicle that you must always be aware of!
Lately I’ve been driving another mail vehicle that the post office has adopted. It’s a Mercedes Metris. These are pretty fancy compared to the LLV. AC, heat, radio, backup cams.. but they suck butt in the snow. You’ll get stuck on literally nothing!!! It’s so silly. The LLV is way better in the snow (but not that good). Problem with the metris is they’re supposed to have premium fuel but USPS doesn’t wanna pay for that so that make us put regular which is slowly killing the engine 😅 they also don’t really “train” you to drive the metris. They sat me in it, said “here is the metris.. don’t open the door when moving it will throw itself into park and destroy the transmission.. anyways…” and then we moved on lmao.
Long live the LLV. I wanna buy one when they retire and camp in it or something.
So true. Retired city carrier. They sent me out in a minivan a couple of times before I decided I had enough seniority to refuse. For all the LLV's flaws it's still the most perfectly purposeful mail truck. I'm kinda glad I retired before my LLV did.
They'll never retire them. They were designed so that, when you wear out the chassis, you can just drop the body onto a new one.
Just finished llv training 2 weeks ago!!!!!yeah!!!
I’m law enforcement and have worked side-by-side with the US Postal Inspectors serving warrants after people were caught on camera stealing packages and mail from a USPS semi trailer. They lived in my area and the USPI’s needed additional units. We served the warrant, knocked down the bay door and found 2,000+ pieces of mail and packages. They were some badass guys and gals! Rolled up with a Bearkat, rifles and ballistic shields. Stuff was tight and fun to do!
Fun fact, Texas is deregulated and we can typically choose between 3-10 different power companies. They usually all purchase from the same provider, but you have different options. At least the illusion of choice.
USPS Supervisor here. The last LLV was made in 1987! Every vehicle you see is now almost 40 years old.
Pretty sure ur wrong the first run with the 2.5 ended in 8?
There was another run with the 2.2 that one ended early 90s
Long life is an understatement. Christ.
Usps mechanic here. First one was in 1987. Last one in 1994
Basically a 1994 S-10 with a death trap strapped to the frame
The first one was made in 1987. The last one was made in 1994 with a couple of private ones in 1995 I believe. I was there when they dropped the 1987 ones off and I am still driving one of those year LLVs today. The first digit of the truck number is the year that it was produced btw.
My dad is a former U.S. army ranger. He is now a mailman. He put it best when he said "Son don't mess with mail men. Because it might just be a soldier who doesn't want to lose a pension."
I knew a LOT of guys who did 10 in the USN then worked for the post office
Also, the phrase "going postal" didn't magically appear out of nowhere.
Grandpa was a retired senior chief. Did 20 in the navy then moved to Michigan and did another 20 for the post office.
I mean the baddest mother fucker of wwII was a mailman after the war...aka jake McNasty McNiece
@theodoresmith8310 between 1970 and 1999 postal workers killed 40 people. 1986 was a particularly bad year, and was also uncoincidently contained the first known usage of the colloquial phrase "going postal"
The shop I used to work at had a contract with the USPS to service and tow LLVs when they broke down. I worked on a minimum of 4 a week, every week. They break down all the time, and unless it was a motor/transmission, we could usually get them back out the door in under an hour. So easy to work on.
How bout them fuel pumps 😂
They are a dream for the tow truck too. So light that you could almost get them up the deck without the winch and the T slots are between the tires which is a real nice spot to reach for, nice and simple.
can we all just take a moment to appreciate the humor and just overall genuine love that is nic and his wife. we should aspire to be like nic and his wife
Knowing the Postal Service has their own armed security forces, the phrase "going postal" makes a _lot_ more sense.
This was my exact thought as well. 😂
They walk in inclosed cat walks above the workstations in the sorting center. Looking out through mirrored windows lol no matter what time of the year it is there are time deadlines to keep it short. That's what makes people go postal!
The real reason is even crazier! Per Wikipedia, 'the expression derives from a series of incidents from 1986 onward in which United States Postal Service (USPS) workers shot and killed managers, fellow workers, police officers and members of the general public in acts of mass murder. Between 1970 and 1997, more than 40 people were killed by then-current or former employees in at least 20 incidents of workplace rage. Between 1986 and 2011, workplace shootings happened roughly twice per year, with an average of 1.18 people killed per year.'
🤣😂@@Personofjid
I'm pretty sure it's from Nov of '91
A side note, the LLV is also the cheapest vehicle to maintain out of everything they have ever created!😊
I mean, only if you aren't counting gas as maintenance.
@@InstrucTube I mean, its got milage than the f14 lol....
@InstrucTube no gas is an outside element necessity for operation not maintenance... please think before you type next time
@manjisaipoe517 on God?
Oughta be. Its based on a chevy S-10 chassis and they made probably millions of them. 😬
I once had a retired postal delivery jeep (dj-5c). It was NOT the BEST vehicle I have ever had, but definitely one of the FUNNEST!!! I used to confuse the people at the drive thru window when I would go through in reverse! Having right hand steering, that was easier than reaching across, to make my transaction.
My friend used to LOVE sitting on the left, with a newspaper in front of him when I was driving down the highway, hoping to freak out the other drivers! 😂
I'd like to see a video taking a deeper dive into the history of the USPS Postal Inspectors. When my elderly father was defrauded years ago, the first fraud investigator to look into it was a retired Postal Inspector who still consulted on fraud cases. He took the info I provided and within a few weeks my dad was meeting with fraud investigators from the Postal Inspectors and the FBI. They recorded calls, obtained financial records, etc.. They were very serious about shutting down the operation because it involved elder fraud, mail fraud, various financial crimes, cyber crimes, and possibly racketeering. Its roots go back to 1772, making it by far our oldest branch of law enforcement.
I just talked with my local mail carrier about this and it is officially now and forever called The Mailcat around here. May we all do our part to fix this heinous name crime.
I would've called it the Tabbycat but mostly because, unlike the big cats of prey, this thing is meant to deliver bills and eviction notices much like Mittens, the local feral cat, delivers birds and rats to your doorstep.
Lol I'm a city carrier and I am adopting the mailcat
As a retired Post Office mechanic (we actually have our own motorpools packed with coffee and hate fueled crazies for these things) your video is 100% accurate except taking these things on the highway is like re-entering the atmosphere....on fire...straight into a hurricane, and hoping the one your driving knows where to go because you have no say in the matter. 😅
I was an independent mechanic in a rural area. It was an absolute nightmare to call in and verify that it was okay to change the oil.
I had an engine stalling problem that was caused by the bulkhead connection deteriorating. It was at the shop for 2 weeks before I called them and told them I drilled holes in the firewall and ziptied it together. I was expecting an ass chewing, but the guy was actually relieved he didn’t have to take the entire electrical system off a different, broken truck.
I feel terrible for giggling over re-entering the atmosphere on fire in a hurricane. I could barely breathe. One of my besties is a mail carrier and I can't wait to hear her reaction to this video and comments like yours! 😊
Best. Description. Ever! 😂
I'm starting to get the impression that those things weren't the highest quality . . .
As someone who drove one of these pieces of shit I fully agree
Postal carrier driving an LLV here. It is like nothing else on earth driving one of these fucking things. The vibration, the 10 miles to 60mph, the squeaking and groaning of the chassis and body, the smell of burning oil… All part of the experience, but you’re right about them being tough.
In my first year as a carrier, I was looking for a blue box in the rain during a collection route, and noticed it just outside of the parking lot I was in so proceeded to drive across the lot. As I went to turn and applied the brakes, they locked up and slid across the slick freshly asphalted parking lot, and sent me into a concrete curb at 10-15 mph. I sat there, shocked, knowing that my career was over, and that I’d absolutely destroyed the front end suspension.
Nope! Put it in reverse and it went like it should. Got out, took a look. Not a scratch. Drove it the rest of the day and for the next week with no issues whatsoever. Impressive…
They love the abuse and keep right on moving.
Worst I’ve ever done is knock off a bumper. That was me hitting a 2,000 pound brick box at 25 mph, coming into a cul de sac. Completely severed the box at the base, and it flew further than the bumper did. I’ve had people hit me. Rear end me. Back huge trailers into me whilst stopped at cluster boxes. Never did an ounce of damage. My response was, if you don’t tell I won’t either. Strangely, as awful as they are, I prefer them to metris, promaster, ffv, or the rentals. They’re rolling junk bucket ovens, but I love them.
I’ve hit curbs, potholes, and shit plenty of times and I’m always surprised how much abuse it can take. Built like a tank runs like one too
I feel like congress should be required to watch 100% of these videos.
All this really tells me is that all of our mail carriers deserve call signs and to have their names stenciled above the doors of the Mialcats.
I second that motion!
If more of them were worth a damn I'd agree, but I am so constantly disappointed by USPS that I want to keep calltags sacred and not waste them on Parcel Delivery Dropouts.
@@Dan_Danger_Brown sadly that seems to be a new thing. I am pointing fingers at internet commerce. I remember in the 1990s and upto 2005 not only having the same mail carrier for a while, instead of what seems a new carrier every day. I used to bring our carrier, Mr. McGarrick, water in the summer and offer hot coffee for his thermos or hot coco in winter.
@JosephDawson1986 as a current mail carrier I can promise you that your carrier appreciated you. I remember the first year of the heat waves. I kept finding bottles of water that had been frozen the night before. I would like to see someone do a video on the different policies for delivery companies in regards to dogs. From what I've heard the USPS seems to be the one most concerned about their employees. Because of this customers get confused as to why others will go to their doors and we won't.
With some nice artwork on the side. 😂
I will forever call my LLV the Mailcat from this day forward! Appreciate the love brother. Would have never expected to see an LLV video from The Fat Electrician 😂
Mailcat how about TomCat, delivering mail tomorrow. Mail = male cat = tom cat
@@james13666Tomcat is taken already. F14 Tomcat.
SAME!!
Does the Mailcat Mk2 come with the GAUSS and LRMs upgrade package? I dare the dog to ignore my Batchall!
Shared this story with my father who was a long time contractor for Gruman.
At the end of sharing, he’s goes you think that’s good I designed those P.o.s shitboxes you see driving around!!
For the record he had the full design done within 2 weeks and sent off for production* Extremely fast turn around for a project such as this. Thanks for this iconic Shit box Pops!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Great video as always brotha!-Strong💪
No kidding, thank your dad for me. I drove one for decades and it was so perfect for what I needed it to do. I joke about them like every other carrier, but they really are iconic.
My first car, still have it, still runs like an absolute unit, was/is a 1985 S-10. I got blursed with the 4x4 carburated v-6 model, otherwise identical mechanically. Can confirm, scary past 55 mph, but as indestructible as the Toyota Hilux from that one episode of Top Gear where they dunked it in the ocean, hit it with a wrecking ball, and sat it atop a hi rise that was being demo'd.
Been driving it, mostly to the landfill, but occasionally some light off-roading, for 20 of it's 40 years on Earth, grandad pulled boats all over the South with it for the 20 before that, and has never burned a drop of oil because it was equipped from the factory with the self lubricating chassis feature GM was so proud of.
This dude educates more people more efficiently than the public school system.
That's...not a high standard.
Too bad half what he says is wrong or missing critical context.
And thats the problem @@KurtisKlunder
@@nobodynoone2500 Still a higher standard than Public Education.
@@nobodynoone2500 Except.... it isn't?
Fun fact about The United States Postal Inspectors: They have the best conviction rate of any federal law enforcement in the country. 98%! These are *not* mail carriers who know how to wear a suit. These guys are the ones who ensure that nobody will use the USPS to commit a crime or endanger the country. They *will* get you. (Even the FBI answer to these guys) And thanks to the diligence and professionalism of the Inspectors, there is no question that you will do hard, federal time.
Back when I would purchase drugs online USPS is the preferred way because they actually have to have a warrant to open the package
They tend to have the physical evidence signed and sealed.
And that 2% is due to either jury nullification or some super obscure legal loophole.
Postal inspectors are what the FBI wish to Christ there were.
In the video he missed the fact that there’s two mail related law enforcement agencies. Postal Police and the Postal Inspection Service. Postal Police protect the facilities and the inspectors the sanctity of the mail. They also do not need a warrant. And yes they have the highest conviction rate. They will have you dead to rights before you ever know they’re watching you. Once you see them, it’s too late. They got what they needed and they’re just coming to take the person into custody.
@@GrEmLiN76X Personally, I would love to know how many times some schmuck would look at the Postal Inspector in front of him, think it was a joke, and demand to see a warrant from "The Mail Man" with a cocky look on their schmucky face.
Only to have said Inspector respond with "It's in the mail." 🤪
As a cop I worked a case with their inspector. He was one of the smartest LE I ever worked with
My first car: pontiac fiero.
And that engine certainly deserves the name iron duke. When I got that Fiero the engine needed work.. people who supposedly knew engines swore it was screwed. So 16 year old me goes to disassembling it, take the head to the machine shop, and all that was found was a tiny crack between the valves on one cylinder. Machine shop's like that's going nowhere slap it back together and send it. All it really needed was a head gasket lol.
As a forner letter carrier, this made my day. There's nothing like turning the defrost on and to be able to get that about half inch clear strip that you might be able to see something with. Never knew Grumman made these. I'll take great pride now in telling folks I'm a former "Mailcat" pilot. :)
Not a mail carrier, but i am a mechanic at a chevy dealer and our local post office brings their LLVs to us. I've had the displeasure of working on these as well as driving them. Ive driven things that seem like they arent safe, but ive never been more afraid of driving a vehicle than when im behind the wheel of an LLV. Its like riding around in an oversized, underpowered go kart that is held together with bubblegum and a prayer.
I use to work on a bunch of these too and can confirm everything you said is true. We also did the chains in the snow.
😂😂😂😂
Sounds like a government vehicle to me!
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As someone who who drives one everyday, theres no bubblegum involved.
As a current postal worker ...
With my own channel giving info on the usps...
You gave sum great info that even i didnt know.
Great job!!
In my area, the postal service has been slowly phasing in a ,RHD Mercedes Metris delivery van over past year. Instead of the HUGE Mercedes emblem in the grille, It has the postal service Eagle logo. I bet these German Turds won't be around in 40 years.
They are just a stop gap measure while they replace some of the older and destroyed LLVs. The new NGDV mail truck that they are rolling out right now has a contract through 2028. If they don’t extend the production contact then I bet that in 10 years we will see USPS ask for more bids just to replace all of these Mercedes Metris and Ram Promaster vans they recently purchased.
Fun fact- The Grumman wildcat had the capability of carying Tiny tim rockets which where the largest ungided missile to ever grace the belly of an aircraft at 11 ft long and 1300 lbs
It would be super cool if u could make a vid on this weapon its truly a joke how silly and badass it is
Why not Tiny tim mail carreing rocket lol
Think the Hellcat was able to do that too
The Hellcat did that too
If only my postal truck had those
I imagine the LLV at highway speeds is quite reminiscent of the space shuttle Columbia on re-entry 😅
Na its S10 blazer frame with either a 2.5 or 2.2 cylinder
Oh they definitely are...
It dances, it floats, it likes to change lanes at random on its own... Oh yeah, every single piece of gravel feels like it's going to shatter your spine because the suspension closely resembles granite...
And then you try to exit...
as a previous rural carrier this shit don't do highways you take this fuckin thing on a highway and you go from feeling ok to feeling your life is in fuckin danger within seconds knowing damn well if you get hit by anything at highway speeds you will become fuckin confetti.
hi there junkyard digs
The LLVs are death boxes. I was a rural carrier. To drive in the snow they required us to get out tanks filled up before hand. To add weight at some point the drilled in cinder blocks above the wheel wells. In the summer what ever the temp was outside add 10 degrees and that was what it was inside.
Retired mail carrier here. Granted that the LLV had a lot of faults but compared to the jeeps and box vans we use to drive this was like getting in to a Cadillac after driving a pinto. I was the first carrier to have one in my city and I really liked it. You have to consider that these vehicles were abused like hell. Stop and go all day and never getting over 5-10 mph. Brutal environment for any vehicle.
Can confirm, reaching 70mph in an FLA is both an exciting and horrifying experience. You got one hand on the wheel, one hand on the radio mount (to keep it from flying at you), foot to the floor till its cramping, and ears bleeding from the sound of the roaring engine, rattling like you're the space shuttle and through it all you pray no deer or sharp turn comes up, knowing full well that ACH aint protecting shit
It's worse when the steering is garbage and center is never center twice. God that shit is exciting and terrifying.
I accidentally got mine to 75+ last week...
@@AinokeatoProductions Oof, those A1 and A2 models were the worst, no AC, not even a turbo so you're hoofing it just to catch a soft top. A3 can at least keep up and gives you SOME creature comfort
So you’re an Ork in 40k
@@AinokeatoProductions lol...that's a RAC issue. (needs replaced)
So last month I did a CCW class and among the usual former/current military and LEOs there was this guy well on the road to being a Homeland Security Investor. He said, "The craziest MFs I will NEVER want to fuck with are the Postal Inspectors. They roll up to the fed shooting range in their LLVs just PACKED with guns and proceed to drill the tightest groups I've seen since I left the Corps. Never mess with a mailman."
Wise words to live by.
Don't mess with a mailman. They know where you live.
Driving my same LLV for 20+ years, I will give it the respect it deserves. These "long life vehicles" were supposed to have a lifespan of 24 years...mine is now 35. Sure there's no heat, no a/c, no defrost, incredibly loud and drives like a jiffypop on wheels, but no other vehicle in the world could do what the LLV does. I say, strip them down, new engine + transmission, new wiring, new rubber and use them for another 35 years.
I was in the USAF stationed at England AFB with the 23rd TAC Flying Tigers, 23rd Supply Squadron with A10s flying over head.
After separating from the AF, I worked for a company, that no longer exists, that manufactured the handles and hinges for the LLV. With only 10 people in the plant and being the companies sales engineer with many slow days, I have assemble thousands of those handles while sitting at my desk. They're the same handles you will find on most US utility vehicles manufactured in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
FUN FACT: Grumman Mailcat delivered more explosive ordnance than the Tomcat between 1976 and 1996....
I'LL LEAVE THIS RIGHT HERE
Most underrated comment right here. Bravo. Bravo.
The Unabomber was a very busy boy.
@@ronjones-6977 Imagine if Maverick And Goose had one of these. OOoh the damage they could do.
I think TFE needs to do a video on that.
Also! FedEx and UPS both begged the government to let the USPS keep doing its thing as a monopoly, because they both rely on it for a lot of last mile package delivery and letting them focus on packages lets them stay agile and competitive in a way that having to carry the mail wouldn't. They did a cost-benefits analysis and it's literally better for the package carriers to work with the USPS rather than against it.
Also, not for nothing, the USPS is the most efficient mail service in the world and was once described as a miracle.
So they don't even need the monopoly then? If there's noone competing, then the usps can adapt their rates without worrying about other companies jumping in. Noone wants their business it seems? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And FedEx does some backend processing for Express Mail
@@vangoghaway626if they allow privatization it's bad for BOTH package carriers AND the USPS.
@@vangoghaway626Nobody wants uneconomical _rural_ business. Part of the conditions for the Postal Service monopoly is serving everywhere in the country regardless of population density, which is why private couriers charge so damn much for direct deliveries outside of the big cites.
The government uses the USPS to keep the country communicating and thus unified; for the longest time it was the one federal institution most Americans dealt with regularly regardless of location.
USPS and NASA are the two most efficient government agencies with the best ‘ROI’ for taxpayer dollars and it’s not even close when you look at the data.
Where I am in rural Virginia they deliver in personal vehicles. Yup that right... their own ride! They give the carrier a stipend and per mile amount... from which they pay for the vehicle (suitable for the job)... its repairs and upkeep... and insurance. This saves the Post office a ton of money while ensuring that the drivers are in a vehicle that is much safer and more comfortable and all around better... while writing it all off on their taxes as a business expense. Boom! Problem solved! ML and Blessings all!
6:12 I'm just picturing a team in full mailman shorts and t-shirt with a bulletproof vest swarming up the side of one of the male vans like a SWAT team.😂😂
Even better than the postal service happening to make their own money while someone else approves their price list they actually have any profits taken and put back into the rest of the government so they can't even build up surplus for lean years or major retrofits without issues.
As a USPS carrier and a still-serving veteran, this video is spot-on about how similar the LLV is to any light-medium military vehicle. And yes, the red-tape to get anything done is ridiculous.
they have 2 repair cycles a year i used 2 work on them
Thank you Sir!...for your service, and continued toleration of the 🤬🤬🤬 that employ you.
My dad's mail truck spontaneously combusted a few years ago. Apparently this is a thing they just randomly do?!
He made the news for saving all the mail and was most upset about the fact that he wasn't able to save his coffee mug 😅
*camera cuts off* ".... and fuck that shitty thing, I'm glad it burned"
I only worked for USPS for 3 months and managed to have two of these trucks die on me.
True dad moment 😂
I used to be in Contracting with the DLA - the problem is that the award goes to the contractor that meets the "minimum necessary requirements" at the lowest price. If a far superior design costs a penny more, it loses. The goal is to be fair, but it results in standard rather than excellent equipment.
@@Morgaineand sometimes, the government will require parts not exceed the minimum requirement, even if it costs more.
So we pay extra to get worse product.
I remember an issue where a product had an improved feature that the government’s users liked. Unfortunately, it wasn’t on the drawing, so we had to spend time and money to make sure it was never included again.
To me the single most iconic thing about the LLV aside from its looks, is its sound. You can almost guarantee that most americans born within the last fifty years or so, for most of their conscious life. They hear THAT exhaust note. And they immediately know what it is.
My folks live in the sticks and our house is a couple hundred yards from the road, bumpy gravel driveway and such. And she's always made a point of talking to our mail drivers and given them drinks, snacks, and stuff from our garden. Hats off to the people at the USPS.
At my grandmothers I was trained to run to get the mail every day for almost 15 years. I could be in the backyard shooting the shit or “watering” with the “built in hose” on the neighbors flowers that had sprouted under our fence and the moment I hear that truck pull up I’m already at the door just waiting for them to move on.
Nowadays I find myself looking out the window for the mail truck because I never hear it at the house I’m at.
1:43 the flow of memories of watching Small Soldiers on VSH on loop just hit me like a fright train
There was a mail carrier that still drove the old Willis jeep. Guy was at least 60 and wore a Vietnam Veteran hat and pretty sure he had a 1911 in the old green field jacket he wore year round, even in the hottest Alabama summers. No matter the weather, this guy delivered. Everyone else hiding from possible tornadoes with no one on the road but police, us (public works department) , and him delivering mail. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
"Gimme the fucking mail and let me do my goddamn job. I got a route. People are getting their letters. I don't give a fuck about no fucking tornado! I was in 'Nam. The trees don't talk on Sycamore lane. I'm doing my job and you ain't fucking stopping me."-THE Mail Man
Proving yet again. If you want something done. Call an old veteran who just don't GAF.
This sounds like a script of a very good movie
Hey guys!
Sorry I missed/forgot to update the text graphic for the F6F Hellcat, so here's some of the fun facts here:
-Carrier Based Fighter Aircaft
-Introduced 1943
-Credited with destroying 5,223 enemy aircraft, the most of any naval aircraft
-Created to counter the Japanese Zero
-Over 66,000 combat sorties.
Hope y'all enjoyed the vid!
Even if some may not know who you are, we love what you do Fluck!
@@voraciousblackstn The Hero in the shadows.
Thank you, Fluck. Editors are the unsung heroes of UA-cam. 👍
Ever since I say the Hellcat episode of Dogfights, that has been my favorite piston-driven aircraft.
@@ximthedespot4673 Dogfights and Battle 360 for me
Imagine thinking the Humvee ambulance is a terrible experience when the M113 ambulance exists
This man went in on mail truck lore. I respect the hell out of this.
Our oldest son is in college to become a history teacher and swears he's putting your video's into his lesson plans! Keep up the great work, we appreciate it and you.
"He is our last hope."
" No,.there is another. "
Did you post this comment before, or after, the anal beads comment? Just curious 😅
I've been dealing with a chronic illness, and your videos are one of the few things that give me joy on a daily basis. Thank you for everything you do Nick. Keep being the absolute best
Feel better!
I hope you get well soon
Praying for healing ✌️ from Oklahoma with love.
I am chronically ill too. For lifee. Keep it up! Praying for you.
I hope you’re doing well! So sorry you’re having issues.
Rural mail carrier and retired Cav Scout, love this video so much thank you Nic!! Its a beast of a little truck, and will go places you'd never think a 2 wheel drive vehicle should go. I won't tell any stories that merge my former career with my current one, but the LLV will surprise. It's also terrifying at any speed above 45mph, and I would honestly prefer a HMMWV lol. Thanks for the belly laughs!!
Hey F.E, any company can ship anything that they want,the only thing that they can't do legally is put whatever it is they ship or deliver they can't put in your mailbox, that is why if Amazon or any other company will leave your stuff outside of your door.
If you have something you bought from Amazon or ups in your mailbox it's because the USPS was the one that actually delivered it to you and we deliver a shit load of Amazon and others, and that is called "the last mile".
I know this for a fact because I've been a USPS employee for 20yrs.
Your rt about the POSTAL Inspectors are not a Police organization that you should f with cuz they know wtf they're doing!
I agree with you about the new designs of postal vehicles that they are proposing they look like something from a damn cartoon! LOL
Thank you for filling people in on this matter
I love that your wife has become a recurring character XD
Also, I will never look at a mail van the same way...
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Great thong 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great team work Guyz
Hell yeah ! She is (needs to be probably) just as funny as TFE and clearly they love and respect each other. Love it when they tease each other makes me all Happy Happy Joy Joy for the day and with chronic pain I need all the chuckles I can get. Love and hugs TFE Huge the Wife for me!
Having spent 15 years in the ARMY, I am no longer surprised at just how screwed up the Government actually is.
How is anything of this screwed up? monopolized mail services are pretty standard practise
@@Mister_Rat_ I think the point may be that UPS/fedex does more for cheaper with less red tape?
@@danielcurtis1434, um they don't?
@@rslover65 Um where I live they definitely do!!! Package with tracking a decade before USPS AB’s even then it was 2 days faster for $2 less.
Now it’s still a good savings.
Not sure what ended to say you provided no context?
I used to work on these. We did maintenance and also replaced motors and trans missions on them. The great thing about replacing the engine was the body is literally held on by screws so you could just take off the front grill in 5 minutes and have plenty of room to rip the motor out of them. As for maintenance, the worst wear and tear on any vehicle is sharp acceleration and hard braking. Which is all this thing does for 8 hours a day. Literally accelerates for 5 seconds then slam on the brakes at the next mailbox. And they are constantly hitting curbs and dropping off the asphalt to get to the mailboxes. The brakes, tires, and front end steering parts were always worn out from this. To save money the tires were all retreads that we could never get to balance right, so that's why getting over 60 mph felt like you were going to die.
They did switch to a ford explore based one for a few years but it was terrible and i dont think they made those for very long before abandoning them because they were so bad
As a 50 yr old american man, I have learned more about the US Post Office in the one video than I have with all other previous sources combined. Awesome video!
For Y2K, I worked as a contractor for the Postal Inspection Service. I wrote a program that allowed the agents to share information about someone they were investigating. For example, one inspector in DC might be investigating a person in LA who is doing mail fraud, and another in LA might be investigating the same person for CP in the mail; one has the address and the other has his phone number, etc.
With my program, they were able to share what info they had with each other, and combine investigations and prosecutions. We got some really bad guys this way.
Another program I wrote tracked mail sent to foreign locations that never arrived. You'd be surprised, but the location with the most reported missing mail pieces was not some African backwater, but was actually Vatican City...Rome. That's right, the POPE'S HOME had more thieves than ANYWHERE ELSE ON EARTH!
Not that surprising. Everything they get at the vatican is basically ill gotten.
Gee, wonder why lol
Dude this is awesome you rock
@@nuclearTANKthere’s more
Calling bs
My grandpa spent 4 years in the Air Force. Went straight to the post office after and just retired after 55 years. He’s the hardest working man I know. ❤
OH MG! Ty, as a rural mail carrier of 30 years, driving a 32 yr old LLV, you hit the nail on the head! Been waiting for a new truck since 2018, soon to come they say...lol... I wish everyone would watch this video , because you tell the entire truth, I know Iive it! Many, many thaks!
Fun fact: the LLC used a Chevy S10 frame, engine, and transmission.
The only thing really different was the body kit and suspension.
Edit: Ford also had a contract to manufacture 'Jeeps' for the military.
Imagine there's a parallel universe where the LLV is what's charging into battle while Northrop Grumman's planes are what's delivering your groceries
Mail delivery by Tomcat? Fuck yes!!!!!
@@Whiskey11Gaming Or a B2 mass airdropping packages XD
imagine groceries delivered via canister munition.
---- sonic boom ---
---- swish THUMP ---
HONEY! THE GROCERIES ARE HERE!
"Where?"
"IN THE HOLE IN THE BACK YARD!"
"oh, I see it. Got it!"
@@EchelonBlue That would be absolutely badass. Bonus points if I get to keep the canister.
@@EchelonBlue We'd all have bigger yards, or dedicated 'receiving' ports for them.
I still don't see a downside to this.
I recently had my "Mailcat" traded in for a ram promaster. It makes me realize how awsome the llv was. It was perfect for delivering mail, as long as you are properly dressed for whatever the weather is outside.
That’s a fact Jack!
I work in a place that get a bunch of promasters in and we fix and resell them and boy are they the biggest pieces of cheap crap on the road I am sorry you have to drive one all day
Both of my daughters, plus my late husband and son worked for USPS….one daughter is a clerk( head)… quite a few times she had to call Postal Inspectors…people try to get away with mailing drugs, counterfeit money, money scams, etc…, she has a pretty good insight/intuition….on spot every time….
As a letter carrier, I really appreciate not just this video, but all of your content. You've been in my ear through many a hard day.
The LLV is by far Northrop Grumman’s crowning achievement. Not only has it been in service longer than it’s predecessor mail Jeep, it’s been in service longer than some of Northrop Grumman’s aircraft.
Morgan olson, who bought Grumman, still makes a shitton of parts for LLV, I should know I run the punch, making them parts.
And some of them have covered more distance than the Grumman lunar module…
I can just imagine Leroy Grumman giving an afterlife tour of the Grumman Museum. "So now that you've seen the fighter jets, stealth bomber, lunar lander and missle systems, let me show you our crowning achievement: the LLV, or as I affectionately call it, the Dishwasher Milkwagon."
Mail carrier for 24 years. My assigned LLV was built in 1988 when I was in 7th grade. No idea how many times it’s rolled over a hundred thousand miles, cause it only registers 99,999 then it zeroes out. Im nearing its second hundred thousand in the last 12 years since I’ve had it. 9 miles per gallon is a pipe dream. I fill the 14 gallon tank every three days with approximately 65 miles between fill ups. Just yesterday I had the postmaster laughing at my ingenuity as a finished my route using a bungee strap I picked up from the roadside to hold the seat back in the vehicle. Apparently the rattling, jarring, and vibrating had taken its toll completely snapping the seat frame. As much hatred as I have for the iconic LLVs I fear that the ridiculous monstrosity they’ve chosen to replace them will be an even bigger failure.
@@benwilkerson3762 Any vehicle that lasts 45 years and is still running isn’t a failure, it’s just old and tired.
After 45 years on the job you would probably feel like retiring too…
Ex-carrier. In training, they tell you that these things shake violently if you’re going over 45. Aaaaand they also train you to get them going on the highway. My old LLV’s horn was just a live wire inside the steering column. To use it, I just had to bump the wire into the metal housing of the steering wheel. If I ever actually did though, all the lights would dim, and the fan would shut off.
Also, no AC or heat. Gotta love USPS.
I had a similar setup in my welders truck😂
The horn on mine did the same thing. Kept tagging it for service and every time after 3 weeks the horn would go off whenever you made a right-hand turn. Finally I just pulled the cap off and used the wire.
Thankfully I only had to drive these POS's a few times. I had a choice and could drive my own vehicle and I bought a 1980 International Scout that was factory right hand drive from the second rural carrier owner.
In Texas, I can pick from 5 power companies not 1, it’s entirely deregulated because of WW2.
I used to be a contract driver for US postal for getting their mail out from the distribution center to the post offices of several rural communities, and all the carriers were driving personal vehicles
Never underestimate the postman going postal. Poland had a contingent of postmen who delivered some serious mail to the Germans who set up on a rather rambunctious Holliday in Warsaw.
I carried from '86-'19. Whenever someone asked if I was "afraid someone would go Postal," I'd just reply "Nope, I'm the best shot in the office." Once the Nam vets were gone, it pretty much mellowed out. Thank you, PTSD, for an....interesting career.
The fat electrician covered them in a video not so long ago.
@@jhnshep Yup.
As it turned out, executing a bunch of military trained combatants who happened to work for the post office was a war crime, even the first time.
MAILCAT! I like that. USPS employee here. 1 thing the USPS does REALLY well... We get our money's worth out of vehicles. We put tons of miles on every vehicle we own. I've seen the LLVs rebuilt. Here in Iowa the frames rust away. No problem, we get a new frame. The Aluminum bodies do not rust. The Mechanics will and do completely rebuild these things. A few years back we bought some Chrysler Mini vans, they rusted apart so fast. When I see a LLV I think of a boat, Grumman also make boats.
Our shop had the contract with the local post office which had around 120 delivery mail trucks. We rebuilt at least 3-4 GM 7.5” rear differentials in these mail trucks for almost 8 years. The USPS specked a limited slip rear differential (I guess for off roading) and the killer of these small 7.5” differentials. We finally convinced them they didn’t need a traction differential in the heart of Orange County Ca and replaced the units on the rebuild with an open unit. We inadvertently killed the goose that payed the golden egg in the process.
Im almost 65 and when growing up I remember the little mail Jeeps and the three wheel leather bag on wheels that held the mail, my neighbor was a letter carrier who had one. I also once worked on the maintenance crew of a (-huge-) shopping mall and our all around utility vehicle was an old mail jeep, loved that little thing it ran like a watch and came in handy for so many general purpose low speed chores around the mall. Id like to have one today instead of the always broken down too much electronics crap cars that always seem to have warning lights glowing on the dash and needing $$$$$$$ in repairs.
The USPS paid to have air conditioning removed from every FFV, the replacement for the LLV. The FFV was also available in AWD, and sent them to desert states instead of places where AWD is needed
Desert states? I take it you've never been out west during monsoon season.
None of our vehicles (LLV/FFV) have air conditioning. A good portion do not have functioning heat. They have no ventilation in the summer. And No insulation for winter. It's not good.
Some rural roads in Az nearly look like roads more like washes, waddies.
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You haven't encountered desert sand. I've seen what happens to vehicles that lost track of the road out there.
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470ever been up north during entire season of WINTER!!!
The US postal service: delivering packages while dressed as 19th century explorers
I do love the concluding comments!
I have worked for a military ammunition plant and a reservation hospital and I have felt the pain.
Love your videos, my grandfather was a Postal Inspector in Texas. And I love this telling of the MailCat ... fantastic ... Keep up this great work.
This is too hilarious because I was just visiting the states last week and saw one of these and commented to my wife that it might be the most hardcore vehicle ever made, that is one beautiful vehicle, and she really did have the same opinion lol
I've always respected mail carriers but as you said, it kind of goes up a few levels when you learn all the bullcrap they have to deal with, both in their day-to-day and in trying to improve their service in the longer term.
Thank you for the content as always man. I hope your day is uneventful and unstressful!
You have no idea how right you are. The USPS is the KING of "diversity promotions." They didn't just read the Peter Principle, they leaned into it HARD. When someone decided to move into "management," we called it "drinking the Kool-aid." The second they put on a tie, they forgot where they came from. I've really only "hated" a few people in my life. They were ALL postal management.
Oh god. I worked for the postal service for 5 years, and it's rotten to the core. Not just the system that runs it but the average workers there are dogshit people. And don't give me any excuses for their actions, I know everything they have to put up with, it's not bad, I've definatley had way worse jobs than USPS. Worst part about working at the P.O is your co-workers hands down.
Great video! FYI, in many states, you absolutely can choose your own power company.
Here in Maryland, you can even choose how your electricity is generated: wind, solar, wave generators or, more conventional nuclear and natural gas.
As of 2022, the last two supplied 75% of Maryland’s in-state electricity, evenly divided between the two.
I am a technician. I have worked on several mail trucks. They are the most terrifying and thrilling experiences I’ve ever had. I have definitely three wheeled one of those. Also they’re chevy s10 with a giant box on it.
As a former carrier who delivered in the southeast, I can tell you that the heater works well. Even when you don't want it to in the middle of the summer.
And who doesn't love a fan blowing hot air off of the windshield DIRECTLY into your face on a nice 105-degree day... while you hump mail on foot 6-12 miles a day, six days a week. Good times! (86-19 Sacramento)
It doesn't work well when it is -20 outside in the winter I can tell you that from experience
Our poor mailman has two fans blowing on him and he’s still soaking wet in July-August
Oh I know that kind of heater it’s basically just a bit of the water on its way to the radiator having a fan blowing on it into the cab works good when the engine is warm but when it’s cold enough to give a polar bear shrinkage it’s doing nothing because that water in the engine is as warm as a cold beer on a hot day and weirdly enough on that hot day that’s when the heater is hot enough you could cook a meal with it and there’s no way to turn it off because 10 years ago some lead paint chip eating moron somehow broke the fan speed control so it’s either blowing or it’s really blowing or it’s auditioning to become a helicopter
@@Departmentofnaturalresources It's basically like trying to keep cool with a blow dryer.
My grandmother was a postmaster for about 20 years. She had some stories about the postal inspectors. They are hardcore. Not just fines, they levied charges that sent people to prison for decades over seemingly small infractions. You don't screw with US mail.
You dont mess with the mail man
Postal death squads lol
Exactly. Screwing with the mail is the US government's job.
Lol my Sunday school teacher was a postal inspector. I remember one weekend he was absent, the next class he explained he had been away because he was participating in a bust. He started telling us about it, paused mid sentence when he realized he shouldn't be talking to a bunch of kids about busting up a child P ring...
A recent news article made me revisit this video. Some crazy mail carrier from Ohio managed to get an LLV up to 105 on the freeway while racing a Mustang. I have never been so impressed yet so concerned
From Wikipedia:
"The Grumman Long Life Vehicle (LLV), also known as the Mailcat, is an American light transport truck model, designed as a mail truck for the United States"
"The more history I read, the less I trust the government."
As a historian, who comes from a family of military members and historians, you have no idea how accurate that thought process is.
Let's just say, holidays and birthdays inevitably devolve into a house full of us all drunkenly shit-talking politicians. Constantly.
Sounds like my kind of party.
I have a lot of siblings-in-law. All of the brothers have served in the military and share your sentiment; some of the sisters have always been civilians and work jobs in local government, and they feel the exact opposite. It makes for pretty comical holiday gatherings. My wife and I are more inclined towards the former; we just sit back quietly and laugh. Gotta love it
I've heard the line "The government wouldn't do that to us" at family gatherings. It's usually followed by myself or one of my brothers shotgunning a whiskey and saying "Oh yes they would, and did."
Unfortunately, there's an effort to erase history in today's age, and it's going to result in an overly-compliant population in 100 years
@@792slayerthat crap blows my mind when ppl say this. The same ppl who cheered for all the insanity 2020 and cov nonsense. They just love the feeling of controlling others and cannot imagine leaving others alone bc being left alone is for them not you.
MailCat is absolute gold man, they need to make another one and hire to you to name it
From putting packages on porches to putting warheads on foreheads Northrop Grumman has all your logistics needs covered both domestic and foreign. Gotta love the military industrial complex
As an ex-mailman my biggest problem with my LLV was the no AC with the heat that was constantly blowing in the SC summers.
He did it again. He managed to make a video about the US Postal Service and make it interesting and entertaining…this man needs to teach a class on charisma
I worked at Grumman LLV from '85-'89 and helped build many thousands of these trucks. My father was on the team that built and tested the prototypes.
I live within eyesight of the facility. It's awesome to see the LLV still drawing attention. The truck plant has never been anything but that. Always non-military, wheeled vehicles. Bread trucks, aluminum truck trailers, kneeling buses etc. They still make trucks but with different owners
#Navyvet #Quackbang.out!
p.s. Grumman-Olswn was the original truck plants. Sturgis, MI and Montgomery, PA respectively. The Northrop merger didn't occur until after the LLV trucks were rolling off the assembly line.
Drop a racing 4 cylinder and some turbos in it.😂
I just bought an 89 to use as an ice cream truck! 10k$ a deal!
Grew-up two towns by you and worked security there for a short time.
Pretty sure Grumman has a history making commercial mid size delivery trucks going back to the late sixties if I'm not mistaken. They also made fire fighting apparatus aka fire engines (various engines, ladder trucks etc) for a time as well.
@@jericho1-4 Absolutely correct! Trucks were from Sturgis, MI and Montgomery, PA. Firetrucks were Roanoke, VA.
Here's a weird one: in the early 90s, I was a military courier for the USAF, and the office I was assigned to was called BITS. The vehicle I drove was a modified Metro Van. While we were similar to the USPS, BITS handled the "official mail" which included Classified mail up to and including Secret. The Top Secret & above classifications required an Armed Escort and there was a special team for that. Anyway, the Metro Van would be something of interest today for those that like TINY RVs. Like the "government vehicle" that this particular post mentions, the metro van barely worked; had zero air cooling potential; and more than a few safety concerns. Once an E-5 parked his plastic toyota behind this metro van, and I was stuck by myself dealing with the day's duties, I backed into it and as you might imagine how plastic is no match for metal, even cheap thin aluminum. The bureaucracy nightmare over that wreck and my voluntold extra duty ensured I never made that same mistake again.
The main part of this metro van that mattered to the brass was that the damned thing could be locked. They didn't give a damn about operator comfort or even expedience. I had to duck when sorting the incoming correspondence, and like the LLV, the metro van operated more like a roles-can-hardly. and the f__ker did break down once a quarter.
As soon as you mention that SOMEONE on the internet had to've documented the experience of driving one I perked up knowing Regular Car Reviews did one of these recently and I got so excited when I saw you using footage of their review. Really made my day to see one of my favorite channels pop up on one of my favorite channels
As a rural mail carrier who’s made some laps in the LLV you pretty much nailed the experience of taking it on the highway. And at 6’2” I can’t get far enough away from the pedals to keep from getting leg cramps. No ac, may as well not have a heater. Handles like a newborn fawn on an icy pond. And when it snows it is stuck before it gets out of the parking lot!
When I was a kid, my mom used to buy bottled water (mind you, we weren't exactly wealthy people, to put it lightly) and refrigerate it, then make me and my siblings hand out the bottles to the mailmen when they drove by on hotter summer days. I always felt a little bad for them, but I never met a mailman who lacked in smiles and abounded in complaints. Very kind people. So, thank you
Lol I've pulled my mailman out of the ditch on my road nearly ten times in the rare snowy times in rural TN. 😊
You are WAY better at educating us than any teacher in the public school system.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
dumb comment is dumb
@@mr.smithsgovermentclass4556 some are good don't get me wrong, however there are way to many teachers that are either dryer than the Sahara desert or seem to hate their job and make the students pay for it. This was my experience at least.
@mr.smithsgovermentclass4556 I know right?
As someone who used to be a rural carrier for USPS I LOVED this!!!