S2E21: Our modified Saturn that gets Extreme MPG with lean-burn and Robo-throttle.

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  • Season 2 Episode 21 Jimbo explains the upgrades that were made on both the Robo-throttle and the lean-burn system. With both systems activated, we went for a road test to check the fuel economy. Checkout this video to see the amazing results!
    S2E20: We road test the fuel saving Robo-throttle on our project car and discover hidden MPG’s. • S2E20: We road test th...
    S2E19: DIY Smart drive by wire throttle plus new project car Saturn SW2
    • S2E19: DIY Smart drive...
    S2E18: We test a lean burn system on our Saturn . Will it get better MPG?
    • S2E18: We test a lean...
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  • @huzudra
    @huzudra Рік тому +934

    I can't wait for the inevitable conclusion of this with a full stand alone ECM setup running lean burn corn ethanol with robo throttle and full aero for a 200 mpg saturn that takes 3 minutes to go from 0-60 and is 40ft long looking like a UFO whizzing past confused deer on the roadside.

    • @calebp2743
      @calebp2743 Рік тому +27

      Yessssssssss!!

    • @haydennorris2913
      @haydennorris2913 Рік тому +52

      I unironically want this vehicle. I have a 60 miles commute and gas is a lot.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +73

      Unless you are very tall, the Saturn coup is extremely uncomfortable, The sedans and wagons get the same fuel economy but are slightly more comfortable.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +77

      LOL.... I really want to do all that just to confuse the local deer population. They will have story's to tell for years.

    • @clover7359
      @clover7359 Рік тому +20

      There's literally not enough energy in gasoline for that Saturn to get 200 MPG for any significant distance without losing a lot of elevation.

  • @bluecats6238
    @bluecats6238 Рік тому +256

    2000’s tuning: “MORE POWER “
    2020’s tuning: “ please use less gas”

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +4

      Love the comments here..

    • @winha1435
      @winha1435 Рік тому +2

      Why not both, make lean burn map on cruise, and give it some timing and fuel on high rpm, now days variable valve makes it even better to have both, if you are on custom ecu its even easier to make lean maps for cruise speeds.

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 Рік тому +4

      @@winha1435 easier said than done...

    • @winha1435
      @winha1435 Рік тому +3

      @@Fred_the_1996 I have seen this done this whit few ecus, done one myself whit Vems and now trying to make this on ms43 ecu and im quite amateur on this. Sure its not plug and play but not insanely hard either, ecu platform make it harder on differend platforms some have pretty good modding community.

    • @Fred_the_1996
      @Fred_the_1996 Рік тому +1

      @@winha1435 yeah, my crusty old 1995 ecu is almost impossible to tune lol, I tried chip tuning it once and it fcked up my ignition timing and fuel mix so bad that the car didin't even start until I took it to a programming shop. It's harder than it looks for beginners like myself😅 Maybe I'll try using a BIPES ACU in the future since no one uses them anymore and they're dirt cheap

  • @dcf8978
    @dcf8978 Рік тому +205

    I love these fuel economy shenanigans. Not many other youtubers do economy stuff, it's all about MORE POWER!!!!!!

  • @jezeski2011
    @jezeski2011 Рік тому +71

    Don't just scrap the Saturn. There is a following for those that would buy it in a heartbeat

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +5

      Yes,, in a heatbeat💖💖💖💖

    • @dangerousdave5915
      @dangerousdave5915 Рік тому +6

      I agree! Especially at over 40mpg!

    • @tkello001
      @tkello001 Рік тому +3

      My salvage title sc2 dohc gets over 40mpg stock with an automatic on the highway, vibrating like a paintshaker at low rpm...

    • @JettaCoupe16v
      @JettaCoupe16v Рік тому

      @@tkello001 Replace your upper passenger engine mount with an oem style one. I had the same problem.

  • @pimpstick2
    @pimpstick2 Рік тому +63

    3 Hours for hillbilly proving grounds testing? Dang that's dedication, mad props for that! Much love for the content!

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    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

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  • @Acamperfull
    @Acamperfull Рік тому +123

    Google timing advance processors ”TAP” these are are wired between the ECU and the crankshaft position sensor and meant to be used on LPG/CNG converted engines and allow you to program extra ignition advance.

    • @krashanb5767
      @krashanb5767 Рік тому +14

      That sure sounds interesting. Plus I would love to see LPG conversion in the future.

    • @1987FX16
      @1987FX16 Рік тому +12

      I was thinking he could use the IAT signal to tell the computer to add timing. Not sure what cylinder airmass he is cruising at but on the tune I'm looking at anything under 50F and over 0.32 cyl/airmass is adding timing. If he wanted he could tune the ECU with hptuners and use the IAT as a signal to add the timing for lean burn but that would be at least $100 in credits to tune a old swap destind Saturn.

    • @dennisford2000
      @dennisford2000 Рік тому +9

      @@1987FX16 back when the 240 z Datsun was new , we added a few hundred ohm rheostat to the sensor and adjusted for both timing and fuel

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +1

      @@dennisford2000 Check out that crazy fuel economy!@

    • @digitalchaos1980
      @digitalchaos1980 Рік тому +4

      @@1987FX16 That's a very good idea, and I can tell you it should work that way too! I drive a 2003 Jeep WJ with the venerable ole 4.0. My model has the IAT in the intake manifold while the last model year for my model - 2004 - has the IAT in the airbox itself. I have an OBD reader and dedicated phone attached on my dash which has different guages on the screen so I can watch my timing, throttle position, engine load, rpms, coolant temp, etc. I also monitor my IAT and with the sensor in the intake it soaks up the engine heat and usually always read roughly the engine temp. About two years ago I calculated what value resistor I would need to wire in series with my IAT in order for the ECU to see what the actual incoming air temp is and once I did that it now reads pretty close to the actual incoming air and it bumped my ignition timing up quite a bit, enough to notice a little on acceleration, and it bumped my fuel mileage up a mpg or two! And it's been working beautifully that way for two years now! I've thought about wiring in a variable resistor so I could further play around with it, but I think I may leave well enough alone. 😎

  • @haydennorris2913
    @haydennorris2913 Рік тому +136

    Try adding covers to the back wheel well and maybe those smooth wheel covers trucks have to the front. A lot or drag comes from turbulence from wheels. Car companies mostly don't cover them because big fancy rims look cool and are a status symbol.

    • @bytesandbikes
      @bytesandbikes Рік тому +8

      yup. Top of the wheels are going twice as fast as the rest of the car

    • @flb78
      @flb78 Рік тому +10

      There's a lot of aerodynamic things they could do to the car. Basically need to make the car as egg shaped as possible. And then dimple all the sheet metal like a golf ball.

    • @benholroyd5221
      @benholroyd5221 Рік тому +8

      Citroen's of old looked cool and they had covered wheels

    • @MiGujack3
      @MiGujack3 Рік тому +21

      @Matt I think it has a chance. A massive, heavy brick may not benefit much but a lightweight somewhat aerodynamic coupe may see a change.

    • @haydennorris2913
      @haydennorris2913 Рік тому +9

      @@flb78 golf ball dimples likely wouldn't help things at this scale unless you have really awful aero. Even then normal vortex generators places strategically would be better than the mini dimple vortex generators on a golf ball.

  • @eformance
    @eformance Рік тому +59

    Probably the easiest way to monkey with ignition timing is to alter the intake air temperature sensor readings. The ECT and ACT will both influence ignition timing, but the ECT will also influence fueling. The ACT should primarily influence ignition timing, to account for cold and hot ambient temperatures.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +6

      Good Comment here.

    • @BrokeWrench
      @BrokeWrench Рік тому

      I finally found this comment, now i cad delete the one i just made

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  • @johncollinsgrove1750
    @johncollinsgrove1750 Рік тому +8

    Saturn's use the ignition module mounted on the trans and the coils mount on. There is a sensing circuit to listens for number 4 cylinder to fire. That is how it uses sequential injection. Also if you trick the intake air sensor that it is colder it will run more timing. At 100 dgs air temp it pulls 3 degrees of ign timing. But you will have to be creative because if you leave it tricked over night when you start it you will get a fault for it. I believe it uses the engine coolant temp to compare the intake temp for over night soaks to verify it is working.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +3

      I'll do an experiment this week, thanks for the heads up on the CLT and the IAT being compared on start up. We can easily get around that. Thanks again!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      @@robotcantina8957 We look forward to this.

    • @johncollinsgrove1750
      @johncollinsgrove1750 Рік тому +4

      @@robotcantina8957 also if you want to add more timing you can trick the map sensor to believing that the engine has more vacuum than it really does. But one thing you may start to run into is a system rich or lean fault. If the fuel trims ate + or - 20% of expected fuel delivery you will get a fault. I am unsure of any actions taken by the pcm other than the fault. Also. Map sensor is used as a barometric sensor and is used to gauge elevation prior to starting the engine. I have quite a bit of knowledge with saturns specifically. Let me know if you have any questions.

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      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

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  • @huzudra
    @huzudra Рік тому +47

    Hey Jimbo, here's the CMP stuff you were needin.
    The electronic ignition (EI) module supplies a ground to the cylinder #4 signal wire whenever it determines cylinder #4 has just fired on its compression stroke. The EI module uses capacitive pickup plates located under the 1/4 coil pack to determine the polarity sequence and voltage amplitude of the cylinder 1/4 secondary ignition. The powertrain control module (PCM) supplies 5 volts on the signal line and expects to see the cylinder #4 signal wire go low after every 14 crankshaft pulses (2 revolutions). This is used to determine the position of the camshaft, except under decel. The PCM only uses the transition from 5-0 volts as a valid top dead center (TDC) compression #4 cylinder signal. DTC P0341 sets when the PCM detects extra cam pulses (more than one cam pulse within 2 crankshaft revolutions).

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +14

      So that's how they do it, Very interesting indeed, I had a feeling the cam timing was done through the coil pack, but not a clue how it was done. Thanks!

    • @denisohbrien
      @denisohbrien Рік тому +4

      For folks in europe, PSA did the same trick on the "TU" engines as a result they can get reall snotty about cheap coil packs. This isnt the same as SAAB's ion-sence thats a whole other bag of fancy fun.

    • @huzudra
      @huzudra Рік тому +7

      @@denisohbrien I've been through the Saab story a few times, the coil pack is either unobtanium, discontinium, a used gamble, or aftermarket that just does not work correctly at all.

    • @huzudra
      @huzudra Рік тому +4

      @@robotcantina8957 Yep, been through that whole process of having to learn how something works to figure out why it's not working more than a few times, thankfully this system is well documented so we're not all flyin blind which makes life a lot easier. It's a clever work around to save money that can probable be exploited (or exploded) for your goals if you wanted to dive that deep. If you can't easily change the time when the spark fires I wonder how changing when the fuel injector comes on would do? I know it's behind a valve but I don't know the relation of valve starting to open vs injector turn on time, might be such a thing that the injector can start a little early and be squirtin as the valve opens rather than once the valve is open. Batch fire worked pretty good for a while in the 80's and 90's so some fuel on the back of the intake valve isn't awful.

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

      @@huzudra Some really great comments here.

  • @anthonymarlette8124
    @anthonymarlette8124 Рік тому +95

    Glad you're happy to recieve the wideband, keep on keeping on!

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    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +12

      Hi Anthony! Thanks for the gift, we will use it on many future projects!

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      @ocdman202 Рік тому +6

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    • @digitalchaos1980
      @digitalchaos1980 Рік тому +4

      That was an awesome gesture! 😎

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya Рік тому +12

    My ‘08 Yaris max mileage is 42…has 280,000 and still gets 42… it gets 36 no matter what.
    I had a ‘96 Tercel that got 52…no mods…was incredible !

  • @birdwrangler
    @birdwrangler Рік тому +3

    Did this by accident with a lifted, carburated Toyota pickup 17 years ago. 200 miles on 1/3 tank of gas... normally it used 5x that. Acceleration was abysmal and going through a small town with the only stop of the drive, the engine would not idle at all, so I revved it and rolled through, just to get home. Once home I found the studs to mount the carb had backed out, allowing air in, causing it to run extremely lean. I pulled the plugs, scoped the pistons, and checked compression and everything was perfect.
    Great job using your head to push what is possible with gasoline engines.

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  • @whatatool
    @whatatool Рік тому +6

    I used to work at staurn. I rebuilt a twin cam with flat face valves, had the head milled 20 thousandths, put on an obx header with 2.5" exhaust and some NGK plugs and got 42 mpg. I averaged 30 prior to that. Everything else was stock. Even the air box. Gained tons of HP. And it was a 4dr. Those engines got a bad rap for oil consumption but aren't bad little units.

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  • @QuasiDude
    @QuasiDude Рік тому +54

    The fact that you created a fully automatic system that improves the stock mpg, which was optimized by a team of engineers for several months, is honestly insane. I bet the robot throttle is pretty much exactly the same as the "eco mode" found on newer cars. I watch a lot of car UA-cam and I've NEVER seen someone experiment this much in the pursuit of better efficiency, it's really fun to watch

    • @tcmtech7515
      @tcmtech7515 Рік тому +30

      That's because they engineer for no such thing. All of the engineering is built around emissions compliance numbers at the tail pipe. Clean burning has nothing at all to do with engine A/F ratio relating to power and or fuel efficiency.

    • @hojnikb
      @hojnikb Рік тому +9

      @@tcmtech7515 Yes, exactly this!
      With engine designs (and ecu tunes) emissions output is #1 priority. MPGs are lower priority, but still a priority none the less. You see manufacturers still have to avarage a certain fleet mpgs not to get slapped by fines.
      In europe for example. fleet avarage has to be a certain CO2 (which directly corelates to mpgs) otherwise fines.

    • @imitt12
      @imitt12 Рік тому +4

      We're also talking about 20+ year-old optimization from the engineers, and 20+ years of wear on the engine. Technology has advanced a lot since this car was new.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +4

      @@imitt12 indeed, technology has advanced quite a bit since this car was new..

    • @notsam498
      @notsam498 Рік тому +4

      @@tcmtech7515 this isn't exactly true... In modern cars the only emissions equipment on them is that catalytic converter. After that the engine control is so precise it doesn't need anything else. Further fuel gets wasted on survivability, running lean is how you get knock. People like engines that don't explode. Power and efficiency are two sides of the same coin.
      What he's doing is overriding the driver behavior, this is fine but you might want a car that accelerates when you press the pedal. Further in modern engines they are hilariously more efficient but, consumers want power and bigger cars. This is the actual issue, car weights keep going up. It is remarkable we can have a 2 ton vehicle hit 30 highway honestly.
      I tune engines as a hobby and an in school for engineering. I have spent 100s of hours logging engines. I'm kinda giving a simplified explanation of things. The tldr is cars are getting heavier and faster that's why they don't get better mpgs.

  • @draaks1
    @draaks1 Рік тому +3

    my grandma had my great grandmas saturn for years. It was the biggest POS ever but 40 plus MPG easy. Would randomly roll its windows down by itself and you couldn't use the door locks or it would randomly start switching between unlock and lock for like 10 minutes that you could not physically pull the handle quick enough to get out (like how someone hits the unlock button when you already pulled the lever and it won't open the door). One time my grandma had to climb out the window cause they couldn't get out LOL. Grandparents loved (and hated) that car still one of their favorite stories about getting stuck inside.

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  • @GoldenCroc
    @GoldenCroc Рік тому +11

    For reference, one of the earliest (and therefore should be quite primitive) lean burn cars, The toyota Carina with the lean burn engine option of the mid 1990s, could get Air fuel values as far up as 17-18:1 when in lean burn mode, as far as I recall. But its been a looong time, perhaps those values from my memory are not fully accurate, and it was even a bit more.

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  • @vilefly
    @vilefly Рік тому +27

    The saturn ignition system is an ion sense ignition type. They call it "compression sensing" ignition. the cam sensor signal is GENERATED by ignition module. Check the wiring schematic. Be very sure your spark plug gap is set to factory specs. A cam sensor code will be generated if there is too much secondary resistance.
    Hope this helps.

    • @alantownsend5468
      @alantownsend5468 Рік тому +4

      Came to the comments to say this

    • @dimedriver
      @dimedriver Рік тому +2

      It is not an ion sense system. Only Saabs had that. It's a wasted spark system. Early Saturn S series had standard GM dis ignition modules. It fires spark to two cylinders at a time so it just doesn't need to care about cam position. One is approaching tdc compression stroke the other exhaust stroke. There was a change in the late 90 from the DIS ignition module under the coils to the coils being directly fired by the ecm. Coils were unchanged.

    • @vilefly
      @vilefly Рік тому +2

      @@dimedriver It was sequential fuel injection. Not simultaneous double fire. What synched the injectors, eh?

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    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +2

    Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.

  • @lindsaythomas2283
    @lindsaythomas2283 Рік тому +3

    In 1981 I bought a new Dodge Omni Miser. 1.7 liter 4 cyl 4 speed manual transaxle. It was the 4 door, not the 2 door more aerodynamic model. I believe it had a carb, not fuel injected. But somehow the fuel/air mixture was adjusted by a computer for economy. I drove that car from Akron, Ohio to Myrtle Beach and back, and from Akron to Tampa and back. We got an honest 41 and 42 mpg with no modifications, just very careful acceleration and slowly decelerating as we climbed hills. I often wondered what I could have gotten with a different final drive ratio and maybe narrower tires and maybe ignition timing changes. That was 40 years ago. The auto makers should have gotten WAY better mpg by now.

  • @mommapanda5736
    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

    “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.”

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

      In biology, we can know the genetic makeup of two parent organisms, and can predict the probability with which their offspring will inherent a certain combination of genes.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

      If genes matter, then the combination is more interesting.

  • @oddojaggins
    @oddojaggins Рік тому +24

    Impressive! Great lesson Jimbo, thank you for all those miles you drive. When it's diesel time in the coupe I hope are able to test out a few fuel alternatives for economy and power differences. I used to work in Oberlin Ohio which has the 2nd most expensive college in the state. A guy there had an old gas station that offered biofuel and he had old diesel Benz cars he converted, he was a little too ahead of his time though because he closed down. It was very surreal though when he would drive by and you'd smell French fries and Chinese food

  • @rexhollingsworth
    @rexhollingsworth Рік тому +8

    Got all of those fancy camera angles during the road tests!

  • @SixPackDan
    @SixPackDan Рік тому +3

    I bought the wife a 4 door SL1 sedan. Turns out i needed it for long trips for work. Soooo I changed all fluids and greases to synthetic, opened up the plug gap, created a ram air, always drove with the windows up and the air off. Took the wipers off and installed in internal antenna and pulled the right mirror. Over pressurize the low rolling resistance tires. Built a bigger front spoiler and added side skirts. With regular gas (no ethanol) I was getting 52 mpg at 60 mph! Dealer couldn't believe it and wanted to call saturn. Oh i forgot.... pure New Mexico highways. I also just got rid of a Geo metro Xfi with even more mods. It hit 61 mpg!

  • @Fk8td
    @Fk8td Рік тому +11

    Having a crank sensor only turns the system into a multi port injection. That means fuel injectors fire when the valve is closed as well. This is how piggy back port injection systems work. One such example is called a “split second controller”.
    In a 4 cylinder it fires 2 cylinders at a time. 1 and 3 fire at the same time and so does 2 and 4.
    Also the ignition system is used as a wasted spark system where it fires the coils during the exhaust as well as compression cycle.
    Hope this helps.
    Hptuners has Saturn tuning capability. This would be a better option than a piggy back system. I’d be willing to help it here if this is something you are interested in.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +5

      Indeed, most engines with just a crank position sensor have the injectors batch fired, but on the Saturn they managed to do true sequential injection. If you look through through comments, someone did a great job explaining the saturn's method of sequential injection. Its bizarre, but apparently it works.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

      @@robotcantina8957 Love the comments here.

    • @hojnikb
      @hojnikb Рік тому +2

      Actually they do have a true sequential injection AND timing. You see, you don't really need a cam sensor to determine each of the cylinder state. You can also achieve that using MAP sensor data. I'm not sure if saturn does it like this (it likely does) but some other euro cars from the alst century do exactly that to achieve sequential inj/timing.

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree Рік тому +5

    Back when I owned a Saturn (over 10 yrs ago) the trick for fuel economy was a "hot air intake". The ECU will add some timing if the intake air is hot, and also reduce fueling a bit. You could probably get the same effect by spoofing the IAT sensor. It's just a variable resistor.

  • @braaapattack2937
    @braaapattack2937 Рік тому +2

    Fun fact, brp who makes snowmobiles, jet skis, the spyders and such, have their throttles on the 4 stroke models able to be set to different responses and fueling, eco mode slows down the throttle and limits how far the throttle body opens, and in sport mode, allows it to respond fast and dump more fuel. So this is a similar system to what you made… maybe find a wrecked 900ace and transplant it into a car, it’s a 90-100hp motor, which is similar to the Saturn….

  • @theinfernalcraftsman
    @theinfernalcraftsman Рік тому +14

    Ahh remember the late 80s and early 90s GM ECMs where you could enable lean cruise. It was in the programming but never used because the NOX emissions were too high with it enabled. It was nice that they left it in the chip BIN for us to play with later on. Course I haven't burned a chip in probably 15+ years now and don't have the stuff to do it with anymore. Even then new blank chips were hard to come by.

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +1

      Interesting that GM had that embedded in the code. Perhaps they were hoping for a solution to the NOX problem.

    • @208Concepts
      @208Concepts Рік тому +2

      The solution was more expensive hardware (catalytic converters).
      As for the Saturn, it uses a unique ECU that likely comes from Suzuki, but I imagine you could repin a 2.2 ECU from a Chevy to work.

    • @Rusty8592
      @Rusty8592 Рік тому +2

      @@robotcantina8957 I think I mentioned this in the first lean burn video. The ecu ignored the O2 for 60 sec and calculated the injector pulse width for a leaner/specified ratio. It also advanced the timing by 10 degrees or so. It seemed to only be enabled (at least in the fbody cars) in 86 but was left in the code with the speed to enable set to 255.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      @@Rusty8592 A light bulb goes off for me when ever
      I watch ROBOT CANTINA videos...

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      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

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  • @Sparkyspage
    @Sparkyspage Рік тому +3

    Saturn s-series are basically a tractor to begin with. A shop’s favourite vehicle 🚗

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    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

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      I love that lean thinking stuff...🤓🤓🤓🤓

  • @dannymitchell6131
    @dannymitchell6131 Рік тому +2

    The sarcasm really adds a lot to these videos. Kudos

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      Did you see all of season one????

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      We are all looking forward to more videos from ROBOT CANTINA@

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    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

    Inching closer toward horror than comedy, this Joss Whedon hit ends up on pretty much everyone’s list of favorite horror movies. And how could it not? The Cabin in the Woods both celebrates and dismantles the classic horror tropes we all know and love

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому

      CABIN IN THE WOODS ..... one of my favorites..

  • @ocdman202
    @ocdman202 Рік тому +4

    The original time machine in Back to the Future was supposed to be a refrigerator, but director Robert Zemeckis was afraid that children would try imitating the film and trap themselves inside fridges. The eventual choice? A modified 1981 DeLorean DMC-12. Thank god for that.

    • @dangerousdave5915
      @dangerousdave5915 Рік тому +2

      Amen!

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

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      Pita Chips
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    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +2

      @@kansasrose2909 The dips and chips keep me going...

  • @MrEricErwin
    @MrEricErwin Рік тому +5

    I lost it when you cutoff Jimbo from under the car. They always do that... :)

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

    “Some journeys are direct, and some are circuitous; some are heroic, and some are fearful and muddled. But every journey, honestly undertaken, stands a chance of taking us toward the place where our deep gladness meets the world’s deep need.”

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      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

      @@mommapanda5736 Ruffles
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  • @ocdman202
    @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

    The distance between insanity and genius is measured by success..
    Keep going Jimbo.... we are along for the ride!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому

      I would rather watch ROBOT CANTINA than anything on NUTFLIX 😜😜😜

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      NUTFLIX!!

    • @kansasrose2909
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      @@ocdman202 The nuts and chews are the best kind of candy.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

      Looking forward to more from ROBOT CANTINA!!!! You go JIMBO!!

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

      No experiment can ever prove that a scientific theory is true; we can only demonstrate that its validity either extends or fails to extend to whatever regime we test it in

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +4

    Fall in North Carolina is known as Oyster Festival Season. Did you know that? There are a bunch of oyster festivals in October and November. Try the NC Oyster Festival on Ocean Isle Beach on Oct. 15 and 16 or the First Flight Rotary Oink and Oyster Roast in Kitty Hawk on Oct. 8. There’s food, sure, but also arts and crafts and entertainment to celebrate “all things oyster.”

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

    Drive along the Gold Belt in Colorado to see the aspens change colors. The route climbs 5,000 feet above Canon City so you’ll have an incredible view, all while staying warm and cozy in your vehicle. It takes five hours to drive the whole thing, so pick a destination or two-like Pikes Peak or the Florissant Fossil Bed National Monument-to shorten the journey if you want.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      Every 7,000 Miles: Wheel Alignment. As noted above, misaligned wheels will cause your tires to wear unevenly. If you notice your tires are unevenly shaped or if your car is pulling to one direction, it means your wheels are misaligned. Even if you don’t see any of the signs of misalignment, it’s a good idea to have your alignment checked every other oil change to nip any problems in the bud.

  • @XeroVMK
    @XeroVMK Рік тому +3

    The work is amazing that you put in to this. And it is fun to get an understanding on how different components effect the performance of the engine. I had an 1995 Volvo 440 SE 2.0. It had an PSA motor that used a simple EFI system with MAP-sensor in the intake, water temp and air temp. And it used an DIM ignition with the ford style combined coil-pack. It averaged 6.5l/100km in city/urban driving. But on longer trips (400km+) we could get it to 4.5l/100km. I would have loved to have been able to dig in tot that ECM and see what type of witchcraft the PSA engineers managed. It also just accepted an 50/50 gas e85 mix. Even tough the fuel economy suffered.
    Anyhow, great content as usual :)

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      Looking forward to another great video from ROBOT CANTINA.

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +4

    You may not associate fall with beaches, but if you’re already missing summertime or want one last warm hurrah before the cold really sets in, why not head to San Diego? With temps that usually remain in the high 70s through October, you can relax for a while before heading to the San Diego Zoo, where kids get in free all month. Check out the zoo safari’s Autumn Festival on the weekends to let your kids hang out with scarecrow characters and enjoy mazes, music, and more.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      The smell of searing meat over an open flame brings us back to a primal state. Whether you prefer the fatty goodness of a ribeye, the lean and clean flavor of a flank, or a good old-fashioned T-bone, the keys to perfection are proper heat and timing
      we know they all love to BBQ in San Diego..

  • @elvsrbad2
    @elvsrbad2 Рік тому +5

    Great content, thanks for putting these together!

  • @mommapanda5736
    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +2

    Since I have been watching all the episodes of ROBOT CANTINA.. I have been able to keep a smile on
    my face and a song in my heart..

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

      Sometimes I put on ROBOT CANTINA just to hear the nice music...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому

      @@mommapanda5736 I have been watching the videos since way
      back when.... now I have them on repeat...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

      I like to keep ROBOT CANTINA up and running when I
      am doing chores in the garage...

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +1

      @@ocdman202 I have watched all of season one of ROBOT CANTINA, you?

    • @dangerousdave5915
      @dangerousdave5915 Рік тому +1

      @@mommapanda5736 Sure have! Loads of fun!

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +4

    On Sept. 16 and 17, you can attend the annual harvest celebration in Lahaina, Maui. The Chinese Moon Festival is free and showcases locally-grown produce as well as Chinese traditions. Grab some moon cakes, admire some lanterns, and give thanks for tasty fruits, veggies, and grains from around the state. Honolulu has its own Celebration Under the Moon on Sept. 11, too.

  • @johnbelwell2461
    @johnbelwell2461 Рік тому +8

    If you want to play with the crankshaft position sensor, forget the wheel on the crankshaft, the wheel on most 4 cylinder GM engines is removable from the crank, so you can get another one and mount it on the pulley then make a bracket to mount the sensor.
    That's where they are on cars with the GM Family 1 engine such as the Daewoo Lanos.

  • @spuriouseffect
    @spuriouseffect Рік тому +8

    I never realized that Saturns had such good gas mileage. 40 is impressive enough.

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +2

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    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +1

      We all love it when they explore topics large and small...🚙🚙🚙🚙

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      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

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    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      @@kansasrose2909 I come here for the videos and stay
      for the great comments here.

  • @raymonroe1983
    @raymonroe1983 Рік тому +5

    I wouldn't worry about acceleration. That Saturn in this experiment is fast enough. Think of it like the people behind you are waiting for a grandma to get up to speed and it's their responsibility to be safe behind you. Love these videos.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

      Good point here.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +2

      @@ocdman202 Can't wait to see what this channel does next

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +2

      @@kansasrose2909 I am looking forward to another video from ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @bhash96530
    @bhash96530 Рік тому +4

    I look forward to these on Sunday!

  • @renaissanceman2075
    @renaissanceman2075 Рік тому +3

    Always a fantastic video. Thanks for the honest and down to earth mentality, we need more of that these days.

  • @nodrug2
    @nodrug2 Рік тому +10

    As usual a really interesting episode. The low-brow technology is amazing and it works! I don't know much about this stuff but it is so interesting to watch it unfold. Your production is pretty good too. Waiting for the next one on the edge of my seat.

  • @ocdman202
    @ocdman202 Рік тому +2

    At the confluence of love and emotion is passion, and it's in passion that mankind finds the fuel to drive his spirit. Perhaps this is why many of us feel a deep connection to machines like watches and cars. They're both mechanisms that take tremendous skill to design and build - and that simply doesn't happen without the passion to make it come alive.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      . Perhaps many of us feel a connection to mechanical devices, in this particular case - to cars - because they're not just a mode of transportation for us, but rather an embodiment or an extension of who we are and what we want out of life. They become a big part of the fuel that drives our spirit. And it's from this place, I believe, that Matt Hranek has crafted his outstanding book A Man & His Car.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +2

      @@ocdman202 I really like the confluence of love and emotion... I feel the connection to cars...

    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      @@kansasrose2909 I like the passion here.... LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE ROBOT CANTINA...👍👍👍

  • @xzkt
    @xzkt Рік тому +3

    Thanks for update. This series is so interesting to me. Looking forward to more video. Phil

  • @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
    @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Рік тому +8

    Extended effort and dedication, for an impressive result! Really fun to watch 🙂 Now waiting for next week's dose of Robot Cantina 🙂

  • @thewilliamss2392
    @thewilliamss2392 Рік тому +4

    Absolutely love the information

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  • @mommapanda5736
    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

    “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot. Nothing is going to get better. It’s not.”

  • @erickwport
    @erickwport Рік тому +5

    Just in awe of these videos, still drive a sl1 as my daily.

  • @artursmihelsons415
    @artursmihelsons415 Рік тому +1

    Excellent experiment video, as always! 👍
    Results getting more closer to available from this engine!
    Great to see combinations of different tests!

  • @josephmitchell8935
    @josephmitchell8935 Рік тому +3

    Kept popping up on my recommendation, it was right. I liked this, great work

  • @spangledhooper
    @spangledhooper Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the great content Jimbo!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      Looking forward to more from JIMBO...

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    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

      I knew the basics of how an internal combustion engine worked, but I had never connected a piston to a crankshaft or considered how this made the wheels go round.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

      @@ocdman202 Good luck to you, Looking forward to more videos from ROBOT CANTINA.

  • @mommapanda5736
    @mommapanda5736 Рік тому +3

    We love it when Jimbo does experiments...👍👍👍

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому

      we LOVE ROBOT CANTINA...

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      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

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    • @mommapanda5736
      @mommapanda5736 Рік тому

      @@ocdman202 interesting comment.

  • @opticalip1
    @opticalip1 Рік тому +6

    This just makes me miss my old SL2, one of the more reliable cars I have owned not to mention one of the best cars to teach stick on. (Had a friend that would constantly forget to press the clutch when trying to shift)

  • @lustfulvengance
    @lustfulvengance Рік тому +5

    So the Saturn system uses a virtual cam sensor if you will, it measures the capacitance of the number one spark plug when it's coming up on top dead center to determine the exact position of the engine it's complicated. People that are forced smarter than me have written much more detailed explanations of how it works.
    Look up "ion sensing ignition"
    You can actually use it to detect pre ignition and spark knock as well as cylinder position it's really interesting

    • @kingofbrutaltheocracy9201
      @kingofbrutaltheocracy9201 Рік тому +2

      I'd love to see a waveform of that!

    • @lustfulvengance
      @lustfulvengance Рік тому +3

      @@kingofbrutaltheocracy9201 The waveform that the ECM sees is just a digital square wave, the real magic happens inside the ignition module and I believe it's measuring resistance or capacitance of the spark plug before and after it fires so I don't know that you could really see a waveform of that??

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +2

      @@lustfulvengance Great comments here.

  • @trace9130
    @trace9130 Рік тому +6

    Adding the map reading elements of the smart throttle to the cruise control would be very cool. It would also have the possibility of removing the second throttle body because the cruise control would perform the same function of controlling the throttle

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому

      Looking forward to another great video from ROBOT CANTINA..

  • @andrewl9472
    @andrewl9472 Рік тому +2

    My mom had a first gen SL2 when I was a kid. Naturally, it was that great 90s teal color and had the goofy automatic shoulder belts. It was a good car, just had a weird electric gremlin that would completely kill a battery every once in a while.

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    Great choice in Background music

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

    “Sometimes we must look outside our own backyards to realize how big the world is and how blessed we are.”

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

    Lots of theme parks do spooky events in October, but none are quite like ZOMBIEzi Bay (a play on Zoombezi Bay, which is what the water park in Powell is usually known as). Opening night is on Sept. 16 and the scares last every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday night through October. You get four haunted houses, two “scare zones,” six amusement rides, and a warning upfront that children under 13 should not attend because it’s too scary. Horror lovers, this one’s for you.

    • @dangerousdave5915
      @dangerousdave5915 Рік тому +3

      Ghosts! Yum! Beer! Yum!

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

      @@dangerousdave5915 Planters nuts
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  • @kevinshort3943
    @kevinshort3943 Рік тому +3

    10 years ago I was getting 57 mpg average (60+ on long trips), from my company car.
    Renault claimed 70 mpg, but I only got that doing 55 on the Motorway, which is terrifying!!

  • @raymondo162
    @raymondo162 Рік тому +6

    driving with the windows open or closed makes a LOT of aerodynamic difference.................................

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +1

      Yes, but its been between 95 and 100F here in Kansas and the car doesn't have air conditioning. We absolutely had the windows open...kinda had to.

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 Рік тому +4

    Thanks 👍 great work Sir

  • @peanutbutterisfu
    @peanutbutterisfu Рік тому +2

    I am a former Saturn technician they use an algorithm and spark time from cylinders 1-4, you had to use factory spark plugs and gap cylinder 1 .030 cylinder 2 .035 cylinder 3 .040 and cylinder 4 .045. If you didn’t use factory plugs, wires and have them gapped like this you would get a p0341 camshaft code because it needed to see the difference between cylinders for cam timing.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

      Looking forward to more from ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

    We all love it when JIMBO explains things... especially the upgrades on both systems. 💖💖💖

  • @ocdman202
    @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

    After losing my corporate job in 2008, I went through the toughest time of my life. At the time my wife was pregnant with our third child, and my monthly unemployment check wasn’t enough to cover our house and two car notes. In desperation, I decided to go to a local trucking school and get my CDL.I found my first driving job a week after I got out of school. I still remember my first paycheck was just $55 shy of what I was making at my corporate desk job. I was hysteric, I was happy, I knew this was my new found life and freedom, and no one was going to take it away from me.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

      Since my fiancé always talks about creating his own business, I've made it a point to look through several instructional books on how to start independent companies on all kinds of topics. From the basic crafting soap and candle companies, to beekeeping and farming, I came across this one particular book

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +2

      I have been looking into the trucking business as we realized this is the backbone of the domestic freight business.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +2

      This is like way cool....🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜 trucking school ......👍👍👍👍

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +2

      @@ocdman202 trucking business .... sounds cool,

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

      🚚🚛🚛🚛🚛

  • @devivoman
    @devivoman Рік тому +5

    I was more excited than I should have been seeing the Golf GTI/R represented on the dyno slide! Get a DSG transmission and its the ultimate fartbox! Thanks as always for the content!

  • @ocdman202
    @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

    his book is a treasure trove of information on how to build your business the right way, starting from your unique position as Abraham quizzes you with 50 questions on your unique situation in Chapter 3. I’ve never read a book with so many creative ideas, and with stories to help the reader understand

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +2

      This book is simply packed with easy-to-follow marketing ideas which you can apply immediatley to effectively market your business to make it stand out from the competition. I

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

      @@ocdman202 I like to read as much as the next guy, I like a good library...

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      @@kansasrose2909 he book is bigger than I expected and is made with thick, sturdy pages which make the lift the flap sturdier and hopefully won’t be ripped as my 18 month old is tough on books and has ripped quite a few thinner flimsy lift the flap flaps right off of other books. It’s a cute rhyming story with pretty pictures and is a great quality item.

  • @pauloconnor7951
    @pauloconnor7951 Рік тому +2

    Totally Love it !!! Very relevant !!!

  • @snowdog993
    @snowdog993 Рік тому +4

    LOL! I was one of the first I believe to spread the word of your channel way back.... at least I think so.

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +2

      so very glad the word has been spread... thanks to one and all who favor this channel..
      they can proudly say they knew of his talent way back when.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      @@kansasrose2909 I am a believer!

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage Рік тому +6

    Awesome stuff. Really enjoying everything you put out!

    • @robotcantina8957
      @robotcantina8957  Рік тому +4

      Glad you enjoy it!

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

      @@robotcantina8957 👍👍👍👍

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +3

      Looking forward to more from ROBOT CANTINA!

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому

      @@ocdman202 You put the you in thank you Thank you, ROBOT CANTINA!

  • @kansasrose2909
    @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +3

    Corn Nuts
    These days, a lot of hip restaurants will serve you artisan corn nuts. Weirdly, nobody gets them right, probably because they’re not sure what they are. But we’re glad to have them, if only because they’re extremely salty, and also trick you into thinking you've had a serving of vegetables.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +2

      a little salty, good with beer..

  • @Mattjki
    @Mattjki Рік тому +3

    Possibly the best-produced videos on UA-cam! Great explanations with media effects to illustrate concepts.

    • @ocdman202
      @ocdman202 Рік тому +1

      A light bulb goes off for me when I watch ROBOT CANTINA

    • @kansasrose2909
      @kansasrose2909 Рік тому +1

      @@ocdman202 Looking forward to more great videos here.