Love the brand vs brand content. I think it would be great to have the pig throwers throw zones, and the zone throwers throw pigs. Then they could truly test their opinions.
@@chrisblair3081 I’ve never thrown a pig. By my own logic, I should have by now. The only problem is, what if I like it? I can barely afford backups for my current bag. Not trying to chase too many dragons right now.
Discraft needs to make a more over stable version of the Zone with less glide, less turn and a bit shallower (4,2,1,3-4). They could call it the OZone.
@@Universal-Jack looking at its side profile it looks like an old Hyzerbomb Mortar, likely the same mold since Innova made them and Jerm/Sexton used to swear by them. I didn't know about them, but I'll have to grab one and see because the newer Mortars are less overstable and aren't flat either. Wish they had it in Gstar though, that plastic is made for approaches since it's so rubbery it loses speed when it touches the ground.
I really enjoyed Discmas and Vlogmas this year. Really cool to see two of my favorite Disc Golf channels end the holidays with a cool collab! You guys are so close to 10k!
But just IMAGINE if innova would give us champion pigs!! Longer life, big skip different uses. I want to give innova my money for champion PIGS but they just won't take it.
Yeah a small batch, maybe 100-300 came out and now nothing, gone very,very fast. zones are found on other planets in premium plastic, second hand champ pigs go for price of blood from online scalpers. Trust me bro zone throwers are blessed and spoiled by a company that pays attention to them.
Awesome to see y’all play Hobbs Farm. Such an amazing course. It’s my favorite course I have ever played. With three tees on all but the shortest holes and two fixed baskets on every hole, it’s incredibly accessible for less experienced players and challenging for advanced players. Real par 5s. Lots of risk/reward. Just a phenomenal design by John Houck.
Like number 93 today! 🤣 Merry Christmas to all of you and your Families! I got some beautiful discs today. Can’t wait to go throw in a few hours. Love y’all! Be safe Swanky fams! 🎁🎄❤️🙏🏻😇
I wish I would have known that y'all were at Hobbs. I love both channels, and have learned so much about the game from watching y'all. I would have loved to be able to come out and say thank you.
I've never thrown a zone but I got a pig for Christmas today and it's the first putter I've thrown that doesn't flex on a full power forehand. Even my tactic gets understable but the pig is perfect
I've been throwing pigs since 08, my pro pig from then is very understable. I've never tried a zone yet. Also I grew up on a hog farm and I love that shirt.
The only thing the zone is better at or has more of is a Big Skip probability. The zone also has way more runs of. My favorite pig I bag over my Ricky wysocki and battle boar, is a 2010 r-pro
IMO the Neo Tactic from the Black Friday Mystery Box is better than both…but I’ve only thrown each a handful of times. Kinda new to these newer molds and manufacturers…I miss my Cyclones and Cyclone 2’s and my Polaris LS and LF…lol.
Yeah lots of young kids are easily imprinted on by social media throw zones. Then you learn angle control and don't need mids because the PIG is so great, you just bag more PIGS lol.
The Zone is better than the Pig. That said, they're really not the same disc and don't have the same purposes. There is some overlap in their use, but they're just not the same.
Why you say one is better? then say they are different (pretty much not comparable) zone in z plastic is more beef than pig mainly do to r-pro being a more neutral plastic. If innova would give us champ plastic it would be a better comparison to the age old question lol. By the way learn your angle control and you'll see PIG IS LIFE!!
Hey swanky I think you should also try going to the gym, and I dont mean it as an insult at all! You could have a really good build, I started and its crazy the happiness level goes up especially with adding disc golf to your life.
Pig vs Zone....Entropy wins every time, haha! I even like the Gateway Devil Hawk more than the pig too, for those who want to try something a bit different.
Every disc you mentioned Flys way different. The pig is the most sensitive to angle control with that said it will go the furthest or get you in most trouble. Devil H. is just beef cake with no range, Entropy is pretty much Zone OS and Z Zone is a Little more beef than pig but that's only because plastic. Jawbreaker zone pretty much Flys just same as pig.
I love the Pig but it just isn't anything special. Now the Zone, that's a great disc. I've also had some awful pop top Pigs that would turn and burn. Discraft has way better quality control than Innova.
i got a domey and firm nexus pig that's crazy overstable, and a buttery feeling esp zone that's medium overstable. I love them both, but haven't shot them enough to have a favorite. Been absolutely BINGING the heck out of buying discs these past few months and just waiting for the cold weather to let up so i can see how they fly in some nice weather
Merry Christmas all!
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 I’m going 16 on a 22 round today. I can feel it.
I love this competition for second best putt and approach. It’s good to know which disc is sitting just below the Harp on the podium.
Love the brand vs brand content. I think it would be great to have the pig throwers throw zones, and the zone throwers throw pigs. Then they could truly test their opinions.
I throw zones and would be down... only downside, there'd be that many more people buying zones lol
@@chrisblair3081 Zones aren’t exactly hard to come by anyway.
@@joseph7519 until a few thousand people all buy 20... lol
@@chrisblair3081 Bro no offense to the guys on this channel, but if McBeth and Brodie can’t get Zones sold out, these guys definitely will not.
@@chrisblair3081 I’ve never thrown a pig. By my own logic, I should have by now. The only problem is, what if I like it? I can barely afford backups for my current bag. Not trying to chase too many dragons right now.
Zone is better, btw. Im back on membership.
Discraft needs to make a more over stable version of the Zone with less glide, less turn and a bit shallower (4,2,1,3-4). They could call it the OZone.
I'd buy it
Innova did it instead and called it a Toro
@@Universal-Jack looking at its side profile it looks like an old Hyzerbomb Mortar, likely the same mold since Innova made them and Jerm/Sexton used to swear by them. I didn't know about them, but I'll have to grab one and see because the newer Mortars are less overstable and aren't flat either. Wish they had it in Gstar though, that plastic is made for approaches since it's so rubbery it loses speed when it touches the ground.
@@jackl4laughs they are pretty puddle top from my experience. Ive had them in Champion and Star. Champion obviously being the more overstable.
@@Universal-Jack I'll have to grab a couple, I still love some good old champion plastic for rocks and trees here in Colorado. Cheers
I’ve learned Robbie C is 30% Disc golf 70% Crackhead energy
More crackhead than disc golfer for sure
Crackheads don't spend money on sweet pig farmer shirts. I've known crackheads. Too many. Robbie C just loves life.
Correct 😂😂
Liked the collab, especially with Robbie C as it benefits both channels. Come On 10K subscribers.
Harp time.
Harp better then both zone and pig but anvil is the champ!
@@snowbird5415nope
I really enjoyed Discmas and Vlogmas this year. Really cool to see two of my favorite Disc Golf channels end the holidays with a cool collab! You guys are so close to 10k!
Can us mere mortals get our hands on a pig-farmer tshirt? I friggin love it!!! ❤️🐷
Merry Christmas Swanky Fam!! Y’all have a good one and enjoy the time with the family!!
Great vid! Awesome putt Nick! Robbie C is one of my favorites also! Merry Christmas everyone.
That was a fun one to end on! Merry Christmas! Thanks for all the fun videos!
Robbie C’s energy is next level at all times
“Pig vs. zone challenge! Yeah!”
All: *carries whole disc golf bag*
The zone comes in way more plastics, so that alone gives it the edge.
But just IMAGINE if innova would give us champion pigs!! Longer life, big skip different uses. I want to give innova my money for champion PIGS but they just won't take it.
@@coryjarman7055 not sure if you know but Innova produced a run of gummy champion pigs a few months ago
Yeah a small batch, maybe 100-300 came out and now nothing, gone very,very fast. zones are found on other planets in premium plastic, second hand champ pigs go for price of blood from online scalpers. Trust me bro zone throwers are blessed and spoiled by a company that pays attention to them.
i swear robbie is like a chameleon and has looked like 20 different people over the last few years lol
Awesome to see y’all play Hobbs Farm. Such an amazing course. It’s my favorite course I have ever played. With three tees on all but the shortest holes and two fixed baskets on every hole, it’s incredibly accessible for less experienced players and challenging for advanced players. Real par 5s. Lots of risk/reward. Just a phenomenal design by John Houck.
This is the no way home of disc golf UA-cam!
😂
Nothing is better than the pig!
The PIG has chosen you!! Count yourself as blessed and treat your PIGS well! They will reward you in do time for your loyalty.
You guys have full bags. Are those all pigs and zones?
@Robbie C Disc Golf I NEED THAT SHIRT! Where can i get one :)
Soon it will be all about the Kastaplast Jarn!
Love that you are using the Orange OG Get Freaky Zone!!!
Like number 93 today! 🤣 Merry Christmas to all of you and your Families! I got some beautiful discs today. Can’t wait to go throw in a few hours. Love y’all! Be safe Swanky fams! 🎁🎄❤️🙏🏻😇
Merry Christmas!
Robbie is great. I watch every video he's in. :)
THIS BATTLE BETWEEN DISCS WILL BE LEGENDARY!
I bag both plus a Berg. Great vid!
I did not realize that Hobbs Farm DG is next to a church. How cool. Never mind coffee hour in the foyer after the service; go play DG!
Awesome Video! More Collabs of any kind please!
Hobbs is my favorite course! Cool to see you guys out there.
I wish I would have known that y'all were at Hobbs. I love both channels, and have learned so much about the game from watching y'all. I would have loved to be able to come out and say thank you.
Hobbs is one of my favorite courses. Good video.
Sure but have you thrown a tactic?
Swank you very much! Rc is my daaaawg
Maybe a 2022 version with the same flight numbers: Harp vs Zone!
Big shoutout to y’all for the vid, watching from Carrollton , TX 🤟🏽
Merry Christmas swanky!
I just found your channel! I just started disc golfing and you guys make it fun!
And you were 100% correct.
Great video. Merry Christmas
I've never thrown a zone but I got a pig for Christmas today and it's the first putter I've thrown that doesn't flex on a full power forehand. Even my tactic gets understable but the pig is perfect
I don't think that is what flex means.
I like the zone. I LOVE the pig.
Pig v zone v BERG
Vs A2 vs Harp vs Tactic
Merry Chrysler
Happy Crimus
Next time add the Tactic 💪🏻
Prob my favorite video yet, love it👏🏻
I like both of those discs but the Harp is where it is at for over stable approach putter
Loved that y’all played at Hobbs farms
I've been throwing pigs since 08, my pro pig from then is very understable. I've never tried a zone yet. Also I grew up on a hog farm and I love that shirt.
So close to 10k!!
I’ve tried to watch Robbie’s videos and he constantly plays a duck, I can’t even finish a single one.
I have both I like to forehand the zone more and also I use the zone for more overstable shots. But the pig has a more reliable line in the air
Robbie c is the best!
The only thing the zone is better at or has more of is a Big Skip probability.
The zone also has way more runs of.
My favorite pig I bag over my Ricky wysocki and battle boar, is a 2010 r-pro
IMO the Neo Tactic from the Black Friday Mystery Box is better than both…but I’ve only thrown each a handful of times. Kinda new to these newer molds and manufacturers…I miss my Cyclones and Cyclone 2’s and my Polaris LS and LF…lol.
Jokes on you tactic is better than both.
Bag 2 myself
@@markketterer1248 same man!
Anvil puts them both to shame not even close!
My kid brother hate my pig disc, they are my favorit disc, and are like remote controled...........most of the time ;-)
it really bugs me that you have your pockets packed with crap lmao
Red tees next time for sure.. :)
Please Make Pig vs. Tempo. ❤
I love Robbie C, but Zone over pig everyday!!
if they made a champion pig we could have this discussion...
Im with Robbie!!!
Zone zone zone every day all day . I love mine !
Yeah lots of young kids are easily imprinted on by social media throw zones. Then you learn angle control and don't need mids because the PIG is so great, you just bag more PIGS lol.
The Zone is better than the Pig. That said, they're really not the same disc and don't have the same purposes. There is some overlap in their use, but they're just not the same.
Why you say one is better? then say they are different (pretty much not comparable) zone in z plastic is more beef than pig mainly do to r-pro being a more neutral plastic. If innova would give us champ plastic it would be a better comparison to the age old question lol.
By the way learn your angle control and you'll see PIG IS LIFE!!
Neither of these A3 all the way
Hey swanky I think you should also try going to the gym, and I dont mean it as an insult at all! You could have a really good build, I started and its crazy the happiness level goes up especially with adding disc golf to your life.
I change last year to the Banger GT.
How dare you throw that war pig away like that at the end? Dirty
Disrespected my Ricky harp.
Pig vs Zone....Entropy wins every time, haha! I even like the Gateway Devil Hawk more than the pig too, for those who want to try something a bit different.
Every disc you mentioned Flys way different. The pig is the most sensitive to angle control with that said it will go the furthest or get you in most trouble. Devil H. is just beef cake with no range, Entropy is pretty much Zone OS and Z Zone is a Little more beef than pig but that's only because plastic. Jawbreaker zone pretty much Flys just same as pig.
VS the Harp
I still use my Harp.
They are both inferior to the RUIN ♾️
👍🏾
I'll take a Hyzerbomb Mortar over either.
The harp was the origional🤷♂️
First on Christmas Day.
Thicc Chris Dickerson
And the A2 is better than the zone
Berg’s better than both so🤷♂️
@hyzerponix they are releasing an approach disc actually! It's called Järn.
Harp>
I love the Pig but it just isn't anything special. Now the Zone, that's a great disc. I've also had some awful pop top Pigs that would turn and burn. Discraft has way better quality control than Innova.
Must’ve never had a blizzard pig 🤔
Nobody likes Stanky Disc Golf, they're so green it hurts.
The rat is better :p
A2
i got a domey and firm nexus pig that's crazy overstable, and a buttery feeling esp zone that's medium overstable. I love them both, but haven't shot them enough to have a favorite.
Been absolutely BINGING the heck out of buying discs these past few months and just waiting for the cold weather to let up so i can see how they fly in some nice weather