EFREN REYES vs RONNIE ALCANO | ROTATION - 61 | Clash of the LEGENDS | Historic Pool Matches

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  • @50emag
    @50emag 4 роки тому +52

    Rules of the game 61 rotation:
    1. Pocket the balls in order.
    2. The number on the ball is the ball’s point value.
    3. First one to 61 points wins the game.
    4. No jump cues.
    5. No ball in hand.
    6. A foul results in your opponent having the option of taking control of the table or passing it back to the offending player.
    7. If you are snookered you can either kick or spot the ball on the dot and give up control of the table. Incoming player has to shoot from behind the head string.
    8. If you kick and make legal contact you do not have to hit a rail afterwards.
    9. Balls are usually racked with the lowest numbered balls on the outside and the highest numbered balls on the inside.

    • @PostUp_Time
      @PostUp_Time Рік тому

      *THEY WERE NOT SHOOTING LOW NUMBERS FIRST. THEY WERE SHOOTING HIGH NUMBERS THEN LOW NUMBERS MIXED UP. BUT THE RULES POSTED ARE ACCURATE. BUT THIS GAME HAD A VARIATION. JUST LOOK AT SCOREBOARD BALLS POCKETED. THE NUMBERS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, NOTIN ORDER*

    • @qwertyddr06
      @qwertyddr06 Місяць тому

      ​@PostUp_Time you don't have to pocket them in order, only contact them in order, just like 9 ball

  • @BigCheemAlert
    @BigCheemAlert 4 роки тому +47

    Thank you to the people of the Philippines! I live in the United States and am grateful for how much the people of the Philippines have advanced pool.

  • @xris03
    @xris03 3 роки тому +6

    Thats our billiard group MAPPA (makati pool players association)

    • @romeopotot3559
      @romeopotot3559 3 роки тому

      Oi

    • @felicitascruz1202
      @felicitascruz1202 2 роки тому +1

      probably just not that much as much buddy t as a Aq business ddy t business ddy t business ddy t business ddy t

  • @anthonybivens7454
    @anthonybivens7454 4 роки тому +9

    Reyes will always be the man to beat. And lots of luck to those who try. But Alcano is a real competitor for Reyes' caliber. Tons of meticulous skill. Great to watch and great to learn from.

    • @billiardnetwork
      @billiardnetwork  4 роки тому

      thanks for watching!

    • @michaelgansit8403
      @michaelgansit8403 3 роки тому

      L

    • @antoniotoin5798
      @antoniotoin5798 3 роки тому

      mmm..mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.mmmmmmmmmmmm.mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm novinha mmmmmmm.mmmmmmmmmmmmm.mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mm. novinha m.mmmmmmmmm.mmmmm ml mmmmmmmmmmmmm........................
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    • @daijhin3064
      @daijhin3064 3 роки тому

      BECAUSE RONNIE IDOLIZE EFREN REYES HE COPIED AND STUDY EFRENS PLAY AND SHOT MAKING

  • @MrKinghuman
    @MrKinghuman 3 роки тому +13

    Watching ronnie play in person was surreal. He's got a touch and stroke that seemed magic.

  • @bobrevlisofficial8261
    @bobrevlisofficial8261 Рік тому

    1:07:14 pwede naman sa kaliwang corner dinoblete pa ni idol.. hayss sayang last ball pa Naman.. ayun! Olats loytu!! Hehehe 😊

  • @zachredsports8902
    @zachredsports8902 4 роки тому +14

    Rotation is the popular money game in Philippines.Wherein the better player can give handicap to a weaker player such as 50-70,40-80,30-90 etc.

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb 3 роки тому

      That's cool. It seems like a really good way adjust the difficulty.

  • @mikea5205
    @mikea5205 3 роки тому +4

    11:17 Efren has an interesting bridge hand, index finger over the middle finger. Anybody else hold it like that? My entire life I've been doing index over thumb.

    • @lo0ksik
      @lo0ksik 3 роки тому +1

      its just another way of doing the closed bridge, lots of players do it, mostly in philipines. no diference

    • @77.billiards
      @77.billiards Рік тому +1

      it's very common for Philippine players

  • @cristianmunteanu8765
    @cristianmunteanu8765 4 роки тому +19

    I love Efren! He is and always will be the GOAT.

    • @Mr73172
      @Mr73172 4 роки тому +9

      He is the GOAT. As a huge fan and player of the game, I hope to see another newer player make a run like Efren has. It is fun to watch a player who is so dominant.

    • @taymorrison
      @taymorrison 4 роки тому

      sorry but justin bergman is better and everyone is too scared to admit it

    • @Mr73172
      @Mr73172 4 роки тому +4

      @@taymorrison Justin is a great player. Even he would laugh at your comment. He will need twenty more years to prove he is the GOAT. He isn't even better than Shane yet. He could be, no question. He is a smart player, and is very talented. But to say better than Efren?

    • @mikemcnamara3750
      @mikemcnamara3750 4 роки тому +3

      @@taymorrison you must be his sister or something

    • @richardcerritelli9657
      @richardcerritelli9657 4 роки тому +1

      Me too agree

  • @rogerjdf
    @rogerjdf 4 роки тому +10

    9:17 “drops the deuce” 🤣

  • @Sicknowledge01
    @Sicknowledge01 4 роки тому +1

    Im watching 10/18/2020 at 6:00 in the morning crack of Dawning still not yawning!!

  • @georgyporgy7051
    @georgyporgy7051 Рік тому +2

    Not in good condition Efren here from the very start, you can tell by just looking at him but still the BEST pool player to have ever lived

  • @crondawg101
    @crondawg101 2 роки тому +1

    I wish they played this game more outside Philippines

  • @bgjb-r1499
    @bgjb-r1499 3 роки тому +3

    Not a friendly handshake by Reyes at the end of the match, I wonder why? Ronnie Alcano is a terrific billiards player in his own right, show him the respect he deserves. Congratulations to Ronnie.

    • @kentdvaliant6926
      @kentdvaliant6926 2 роки тому

      How could you say it's not friendly?

    • @bunNovnuiq
      @bunNovnuiq 2 роки тому +1

      Maybe he was just frustrated.

    • @rafaelvillamor9702
      @rafaelvillamor9702 2 роки тому +2

      He still shook the hands. Whats your problem?! You are just creating issues

    • @rockyj2008
      @rockyj2008 2 роки тому +1

      FYI. Ronnie’s idol is EFREN…even had all his teeth removed

    • @pedritoputurin1064
      @pedritoputurin1064 Рік тому

      @@bunNovnuiq maybe your right

  • @arungcahyoramadhan1755
    @arungcahyoramadhan1755 2 роки тому

    What year is this

  • @johnholmstrom4212
    @johnholmstrom4212 2 роки тому

    30:17 why draw back 2 rails, when you can just use top spin and a medium speed to get in line for the 11? He tried to be too fancy

  • @vegobond007
    @vegobond007 2 роки тому +1

    I bet not many knows this EFREN BATA REYES takes RONNIE ALCANO in his wings when he is 20 years old....RONNIE learn so much about EFREN REYES at that time..He lives in EFREN REYES house at the time RONNIE is about 27 years old he can beat EFREN REYES in ROTATION which is EFREN fave GAME

  • @nickelassr1857
    @nickelassr1857 4 роки тому +10

    Announcer says ronnie drops the duece as I was dropping a deuce while watching you tube! Hahahah

  • @GodSpeed91
    @GodSpeed91 4 роки тому +1

    8:20 why isn't that a foul shot ? After cue ball contacted the 2 ball one of them has to contact the rail in order to be a valid shot, right ? o.O

    • @Nel_23
      @Nel_23 4 роки тому

      The announcers explained theyre using local rules; it doesnt need to hit a rail after contact

    • @zachredsports8902
      @zachredsports8902 4 роки тому

      In rotation that is not a foul.You only need to hit the object ball coming from a kickshot without subsequently contacting the rail from either the cue or object ball.

    • @sheijinx
      @sheijinx Рік тому

      1. Pocket the balls in order.
      2. The number on the ball is the ball’s point value.
      3. First one to 61 points wins the game.
      4. No jump cues.
      5. No ball in hand.
      6. A foul results in your opponent having the option of taking control of the table or passing it back to the offending player.
      7. If you are snookered you can either kick or spot the ball on the dot and give up control of the table. Incoming player has to shoot from behind the head string.
      8. If you kick and make legal contact you do not have to hit a rail afterwards.
      9. Balls are usually racked with the lowest numbered balls on the outside and the highest numbered balls on the inside.

  • @Gladiador-bg2fc
    @Gladiador-bg2fc 3 роки тому +4

    Fantastic Efren plays

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey 4 роки тому +2

    Anyone know which game Efren prefers to play best? Nowadays 10 ball is what he plays the most.

    • @rogerscottcathey
      @rogerscottcathey 4 роки тому +2

      I don't like missing shots because the camera guy wants to get fancy close-ups.

    • @rogerscottcathey
      @rogerscottcathey 4 роки тому

      Looked to me Alcano fouled that 9-10 combo.

    • @co7366
      @co7366 4 роки тому +2

      he stated himself he doesn't really like 9 ball or 10 ball. He prefers rotation and carombole 3 cushion billiards. There's a video of him and Shane being interviewed where some fans sent in questions, and one of them was your question. Cant remember off top of my head what channel on UA-cam. hope that helps

    • @rogerscottcathey
      @rogerscottcathey 4 роки тому +2

      @@co7366 : Oh yes, I remember and have that in a playlist. I'll find it and link.

    • @rogerscottcathey
      @rogerscottcathey 4 роки тому +1

      @@co7366 : ua-cam.com/video/BcADtE0x_3Y/v-deo.html

  • @rafaelvillamor9702
    @rafaelvillamor9702 2 роки тому

    Hey pls reupload this video with EARL Doing the commentating.

  • @amincorneto7437
    @amincorneto7437 3 роки тому

    Mantap mantap/Good😄😄

  • @PostUp_Time
    @PostUp_Time Рік тому +2

    *GREAT GAME ROTATION. DONT KNOW WHY WE DONT SEE MORE OF IT IN MATCHES. ALSO, THOUGHT THE BALLS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SHOT IN ORDER, NUMBERED ORDER?*

    • @chasemelius2454
      @chasemelius2454 Рік тому

      13:19
      It's the same as 9-ball. You have to hit the low ball first, but there's no restriction on what order they need to be pocketed.

  • @chemmii
    @chemmii 2 роки тому +2

    I don't think Bata was even trying to win....he seldom makes that many mistakes. I believe he gave the volcano a break, he needed the money much more than Even does. IMO..

    • @AChaplin19656
      @AChaplin19656 3 місяці тому

      Alcano was the upcoming star player of the PH at that time. Reyes gives chances to younger compatriots so that they would receive offers from foreign managers and promoters.

  • @Sicknowledge01
    @Sicknowledge01 4 роки тому +5

    17:15 was odd shot. Reminds me of Pete Rose for some reason.

  • @clintonehrhardtsr122
    @clintonehrhardtsr122 Рік тому +1

    what year was this match ?

  • @jakepooltv
    @jakepooltv 2 роки тому

    Alcano was also great player in rotation... But if he ask to fight Efren in 9 balls think alcano has got 30% to break the records of Efren Bata.

  • @leonardopadilla6497
    @leonardopadilla6497 4 роки тому +2

    Pag magaling ka sa karambola 3balls waang butas tantiado mo talaga ang bola mo n alam mo puntahan niya.

  • @marcotuliocaetanodossantos5656

    Será que baianinho enfrenta esse cara 👍 🎱 Efren Bata Reyes.

  • @texas-dx3lc
    @texas-dx3lc 4 роки тому +7

    never seen Efren miss so many shots before.

  • @pingmercury0126
    @pingmercury0126 4 роки тому +6

    Hari ng rotation noon si ronnie

  • @sdickinson5234
    @sdickinson5234 2 роки тому +2

    The commentator said Ronnie Alcano is 36, he is 49 now so this would have been around 2009.

  • @ramadhany8880
    @ramadhany8880 4 роки тому +2

    Point??

  • @mbahchisoepaiman469
    @mbahchisoepaiman469 3 роки тому

    Semoga dijadikan film kisah nyata soal efren reyes menjadi the legend of master billiard

  • @ighorstevan9956
    @ighorstevan9956 3 роки тому +4

    Caçapa desse tamanho eu tbm não erraria uma , nas caçapa apertada do Brasil a gente já quase n erra

  • @munawarsholeh6045
    @munawarsholeh6045 2 роки тому +1

    Mantaapp

  • @doods7564
    @doods7564 2 роки тому

    Boss paki send ng rules sa 61 salamat po

  • @bojedjedthemusiciankid-vit249
    @bojedjedthemusiciankid-vit249 2 роки тому

    Spot is like free throws in basketball,

  • @jayvandalayao6764
    @jayvandalayao6764 4 роки тому +4

    Wag kang kaba2 Efren😂😂😂

  • @peterparris7894
    @peterparris7894 4 роки тому +3

    Yes

  • @zxzs328
    @zxzs328 2 роки тому

    Commentators seem to be targeting 3rd graders. Or are 3rd graders.

  • @danielpincus221
    @danielpincus221 Рік тому

    Efron plays with soft tips. That helps him get extreme draw action.

  • @parkcalauor
    @parkcalauor 3 роки тому +1

    yung ref parang kinakabahan HAHAHA

  • @Brian-sx9nz
    @Brian-sx9nz Рік тому +1

    The Roni oo the small table let it happen

  • @CapnYak
    @CapnYak 4 роки тому +4

    TV acting, Efren never grimaces, he sticks his tounge at the ball!

  • @camdo8107
    @camdo8107 2 роки тому +1

    Chẳng có ai là vô địch thế giới cả

  • @freemoviesmorevideos8710
    @freemoviesmorevideos8710 3 роки тому

    Iba talaga pressure pag kapwa noypi kalaban 🤣 bata pa din lodi talaga

  • @romrellosa5358
    @romrellosa5358 4 роки тому

    I wish no more captions

  • @dafanivan3639
    @dafanivan3639 3 роки тому

    Tidak akan ad penggantinya.

  • @camdo8107
    @camdo8107 2 роки тому

    Đánh gần hết bi trật trái ,ròi dao ,người ta gọi là dọn bàn giùm đối thủ

  • @jumpingembalmer
    @jumpingembalmer 4 роки тому +1

    1:06:24 napamura si idol. Efren didn't like that shot.

  • @camdo8107
    @camdo8107 2 роки тому

    Ông áo đen ăn hên thì nhiều ,nhờ đối thủ dọn bàn giùm ko

  • @michaellabalan7935
    @michaellabalan7935 Рік тому

    Mautak si Alcano dito, sinasadya nya talaga isablay pag alam nyang walang ubusan. Minsan sobrang traffic ng mga bola kaya mahirap magprep sa 61 ball game. Ang nangyare si Efren taga ubos sya yung taga clean up.

  • @pinoybusdrivertv6305
    @pinoybusdrivertv6305 2 роки тому

    Shout out idol

  • @rafaelvillamor9702
    @rafaelvillamor9702 2 роки тому

    I wish it was EARL STRICKLAND commenting on this.

  • @JENRYLUMINGKIT
    @JENRYLUMINGKIT 4 роки тому +2

    my idol efren,,,

  • @franciscoantnionunezaquino7553
    @franciscoantnionunezaquino7553 2 роки тому

    El mejor juego dé entretenimiento es el billar

  • @bojedjedthemusiciankid-vit249
    @bojedjedthemusiciankid-vit249 2 роки тому

    Alcano seems fortunate only this game,

  • @JohnJohnson-zq9rg
    @JohnJohnson-zq9rg 4 роки тому +3

    It seems to me they were not playing at their best. Unforced mistakes, or wrong choices, much head scratching ...
    Nice video though.

    • @billiardnetwork
      @billiardnetwork  4 роки тому

      Yeah we found it and since rotation is so hard to find we thought it s a good upload. Some good shots in it though

  • @camdo8107
    @camdo8107 2 роки тому

    Bị tâm lý khó đánh lắm ,đánh trật trái là biết rồi

  • @moneyDev1111
    @moneyDev1111 4 роки тому +1

    Is he talking Spenglish?

    • @co7366
      @co7366 4 роки тому +2

      Tagalog, (Philipino language). Has a lot of Spanish words in it. Philippines was once governed by Spain in the late 1800s

    • @billiardnetwork
      @billiardnetwork  4 роки тому

      thanks for watching!

  • @anthonylao6626
    @anthonylao6626 4 роки тому

    Ganda talaga ng plangketa ni alcano. Tipong di sumasablay...hehe

  • @rjing9066
    @rjing9066 4 роки тому +2

    39:56 HAHAHAH

  • @nickuvarov1
    @nickuvarov1 4 роки тому +2

    Rotation 61, not 51..

  • @brianwren9389
    @brianwren9389 2 роки тому

    I am not well versed in all of the pool rules. But at a certain time ephraim's opponent moves a cue ball to shoot the two into the 10 is that legal

  • @brodband7168
    @brodband7168 2 роки тому

    5:24 😅

  • @josefonseca9740
    @josefonseca9740 4 роки тому +1

    What salid Efren?bata?

  • @lawrencemaweu
    @lawrencemaweu 2 роки тому

    Reyes does most of the work

  • @rubic64
    @rubic64 4 роки тому

    why is it called rotation?

    • @billiardnetwork
      @billiardnetwork  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!

    • @AChaplin19656
      @AChaplin19656 3 місяці тому

      The balls have to rotate as they move around the table. You put a lot of English in your every shot.

  • @MarioDeLeon-m3s
    @MarioDeLeon-m3s Рік тому

    Hirap talaga si Efren Kay Ronie Alcano tuwing magkalaban sila

    • @yutuberboy
      @yutuberboy 4 місяці тому

      AGE AGE AGE IN HIS PRIME DI UUBRA SI RONIE KAY GOAT

  • @noelchristianburce4047
    @noelchristianburce4047 4 роки тому +2

    Halatang hulog ang Laban ky alcano

  • @pangdanny2018
    @pangdanny2018 2 роки тому

    😱 Reyes can’t even 🤦🏻‍♂️beat Alcano!!!

  • @florianmali2402
    @florianmali2402 3 роки тому

    This game is most played in albania

  • @negroambon9095
    @negroambon9095 3 роки тому

    Hebat

  • @calaguasgirlie6709
    @calaguasgirlie6709 4 роки тому +1

    andrea torres

  • @danielmynameis
    @danielmynameis Рік тому

    I find efren's cursing really amusing

  • @brandmarikina
    @brandmarikina 4 роки тому +1

    C Duque un ref

  • @jesusisoursavior2682
    @jesusisoursavior2682 2 роки тому

    kabado si efren

  • @marymilvalen1
    @marymilvalen1 4 роки тому +1

    have u ever wonder why alcano has the same toothless pool player champ of EBR? 😬

    • @AChaplin19656
      @AChaplin19656 3 місяці тому

      He had them all removed by a dentist. That's how he idolizes Efren. He even lived in Reyes' house just to play with him everyday.

  • @rikimaulana5489
    @rikimaulana5489 3 роки тому

    😀 ada

  • @coraliafenell9547
    @coraliafenell9547 4 роки тому +7

    Efren no es de este Planeta
    Es un fenómeno.

  • @HypeManZ
    @HypeManZ 4 роки тому +1

    Strike 2 na kay Bata yong referee.
    Rotation 51 yong mga na-feature sa movie na Isa Isa Lang ni Da King FPJ
    ua-cam.com/video/4y3XsCFUyFY/v-deo.html

  • @Yoona_Pool
    @Yoona_Pool 4 роки тому

    Please explain the name and the rules of this game.

    • @50emag
      @50emag 4 роки тому +1

      1. Pocket the balls in order.
      2. The number on the ball is the ball’s point value.
      3. First one to 61 points wins the game.
      4. No jump cues.
      5. No ball in hand.
      6. A foul results in your opponent having the option of taking control of the table or passing it back to the offending player.
      7. If you are snookered you can either kick or spot the ball on the dot and give up control of the table. Incoming player has to shoot from behind the head string.
      8. Balls are usually racked with the lowest numbered balls on the outside and the highest numbered balls on the inside.

    • @Yoona_Pool
      @Yoona_Pool 4 роки тому

      @@50emag
      Ah, I just saw your reply. Thank you very much for your kind explanation. I wish you happiness.

  • @dhirajpallin2572
    @dhirajpallin2572 4 роки тому

    The score didn't reflect the difference in skill of the players. Makes me think the scoring system of this game is broken. They should just play 1 point per ball, first to 8 wins frame.

    • @billiardnetwork
      @billiardnetwork  4 роки тому

      thanks for watching!

    • @Bobba8590
      @Bobba8590 4 роки тому +1

      It would take away a big tactical aspect of the game.

    • @pascualitobacapando8586
      @pascualitobacapando8586 4 роки тому

      .idol ko to pareho.kaso mas idol ko si the bulcano wlang trust talk

  • @joelvillas6581
    @joelvillas6581 2 роки тому

    C alcano lang po papalit kay bata Reyes

  • @bary1392
    @bary1392 4 роки тому

    Kong live tapos nag mumura so Efren reyes

  • @troothhoortz3630
    @troothhoortz3630 3 роки тому +1

    Could only stand to watch about 6 minutes of this. So much a§s kissing is sickening.

  • @cladstonsouzaguimaraes2632
    @cladstonsouzaguimaraes2632 4 роки тому

    Também olha o tamanho da caçapa , vem pro Brasil jogar contra um de nós onde as caçapas são bem estreitas . Nunca vão ganharkkkk

    • @lo0ksik
      @lo0ksik 3 роки тому +1

      comentario ignorante. a turminha da sinukinha vai ter que ralar muito pra jogar com jogadores profissionais nessas mesas ai . eles nunca vao vir aqui joga em mesa gambiarra de buteco

    • @cladstonsouzaguimaraes2632
      @cladstonsouzaguimaraes2632 3 роки тому

      @@lo0ksik puta que pariu mano depois de 3 meses aparece um ze ninguem pra critica meu comentario , quem e vc o cidadao ? Faz seu comentario sem critica o meu .

    • @lucivaniamaria7426
      @lucivaniamaria7426 3 роки тому +1

      É vdd q a Caçapa é maior, só q as bolas tbm são e msm assim aqui não tem cara com futebol suficiente pra jogar com esses caras NUNCA, te garanto q no finalzinho só da eles. Aí tem q saber jogar muito com o bolão coisa q aqui nem é tanto assim. Lá vc tem q matar em ordem númerico. Ou então poin o baianinho de maua jogar com esses caras. Para né. Amo Brasil mais me desculpa.

    • @daijhin3064
      @daijhin3064 3 роки тому +1

      LOL IF THATS THE CASE LET THE BRAZILIAN PLAYERS GO TO UNITED STATES OR ANY POOL TOURNAMENT IN THE WORLD 😂

  • @allanalvarez3447
    @allanalvarez3447 2 роки тому

    panis si maistro

  • @amarildojaupi7214
    @amarildojaupi7214 11 місяців тому

    That’s all they play in Albania 😂

  • @rexrebosura365
    @rexrebosura365 2 роки тому

    Wala Yan Laos nah rone alcano bigyan biado Ng 50 70 laban talo 🤣

  • @camdo8107
    @camdo8107 2 роки тому

    Gặp đối thủ ròi thua thua

  •  4 роки тому

    Clash of the toothless methheads.

  • @jesusviloria6543
    @jesusviloria6543 3 роки тому

    Que raro segunda vez que veo al mejor del mundo perder en el pool

  • @reverniebuyag2523
    @reverniebuyag2523 Рік тому

    efren laos na

  • @dorivalrodrigues5517
    @dorivalrodrigues5517 3 роки тому

    7h

  • @michaelgregorio8104
    @michaelgregorio8104 4 роки тому

    Bumaba na laro ni ronnie 'tapete' alcano

  • @jerryboytupas446
    @jerryboytupas446 3 роки тому

    Old song

  • @_Ramen-Vac_
    @_Ramen-Vac_ 2 роки тому

    Ultra silly 9 & 15-ball graphic Batman segue spoilers make me feel like a dog watchin a card trick lol. . . at least somebody got a ~big computer job, Freddy; I got my fingers cro$$ed . . .