Michelle Goldberg: The Rise of Christian Nationalism | FFRF Convention 2024

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  • @Quokka8888
    @Quokka8888 26 днів тому +14

    Thank you so much Michelle 👌.

  • @lennytidwillow3666
    @lennytidwillow3666 23 дні тому +10

    Thank you for this informative presentation.

  • @suzankhoshnevisriahi824
    @suzankhoshnevisriahi824 21 день тому +4

    Very concise and informative. Thank you

  • @Gampa-t1o
    @Gampa-t1o Місяць тому +16

    Great presentation. Thank you.

  • @pradipthomas8779
    @pradipthomas8779 29 днів тому +9

    I learned a lot. The permutations of this movement are fascinating.

  • @cynthiachristiansen8803
    @cynthiachristiansen8803 26 днів тому +7

    Some people are willing to repeat the past mistakes in order to be leaders of their own cult.

  • @danlhendl
    @danlhendl 27 днів тому +6

    Thanks

  • @bobhookstratten9567
    @bobhookstratten9567 Місяць тому +13

    The New York Times' political coverage sucks and is pro-fascism, but Michelle Gilbert's columns is must-read.

    • @bobbafett1849
      @bobbafett1849 29 днів тому

      So it favors Benedict Chump and his P2025 fascist bible?

  • @liviadix1433
    @liviadix1433 29 днів тому +16

    Michelle, you explained to me how religion and Christianity, has joined into the political force behind Trump, this is scaring me more than ever.

    • @bennettd1275
      @bennettd1275 23 дні тому

      Don't be scared, these cowards are exactly that... cowards. They're the scared people (GOP) and that's why they demonize the "others". Stand tall and vote these fascists out!!!

    • @llh3025
      @llh3025 23 дні тому

      Any concerns about his Zionist backers and any undue influence they might have over him?

  • @geinikan1kan
    @geinikan1kan 17 днів тому

    Excellent talk. She really brings out some lesser known details about current Xtian beliefs in America.

  • @bennettd1275
    @bennettd1275 23 дні тому +9

    I love my atheist community and have trust, not "faith" because faith is held without evidence, I have trust that the sane citizens in this country will vote and keep the fascists out.

    • @roryteal5940
      @roryteal5940 22 дні тому

      You mean the "sane" citizens that wanted to put people who refused a bio weapon injection into gulags and concentration camps?

  • @ElizabethCox-z9o
    @ElizabethCox-z9o 21 день тому +2

    What are we going to do I mean seriously? This is incredibly scary!

  • @LawrenceAdele1919
    @LawrenceAdele1919 28 днів тому +11

    The church has also begun saying things like "civil war" or using violence to get their religion mandated in the US. Thank you for this important message.

  • @seacatMEOW
    @seacatMEOW Місяць тому +7

    Thanks!

  • @johngrundowski3632
    @johngrundowski3632 28 днів тому +5

    THANKS ,,,our future
    needs this info🌐🔎❇️

  • @robertjohnherrick2800
    @robertjohnherrick2800 Місяць тому +25

    Thanks Michelle, It won't end with the election.

    • @robertboroughs7824
      @robertboroughs7824 Місяць тому +2

      Neither will the massive funding for the FFRF and the SPLC. Both of which thrive on feeding their congregation highly targeted chum.

    • @bobbafett1849
      @bobbafett1849 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@robertboroughs7824lmao, mhmm

  • @gabrielleangelica1977
    @gabrielleangelica1977 26 днів тому +13

    Jesus, save us from your followers!

  • @oscarmudd6579
    @oscarmudd6579 25 днів тому +3

    The goal, as announced (with subtlety) in 1005 has been to "...divide The USA into seventy-five separate States or four separate countries."

    • @williamjameslehy1341
      @williamjameslehy1341 19 днів тому +1

      One can only hope. I've been an advocate for New England independence since I was in high school and realised how much we're sacrificing for the dubious "privilege" of being unequally yoked to a country that's much more conservative and much less prosperous than we are.

  • @lindsayhuff3345
    @lindsayhuff3345 17 днів тому

    Hey Michelle, last time i checked this country was fonnded on Christianity? What a suprise! I'm not sure if we could survive without smart people like you!

  • @lindsayhuff3345
    @lindsayhuff3345 17 днів тому

    Move!

  • @JaneHallstrom1
    @JaneHallstrom1 Місяць тому +10

    7 mountains mandate being taught in our charter schools in North Carolina. Yep.

    • @televisionsux
      @televisionsux Місяць тому +1

      WOW...just another aspect of how privatizing US schools is filled with ulterior motives.They've got BIG PLANS for the USA and it's "re-education programming"

    • @gregpendrey6711
      @gregpendrey6711 28 днів тому

      Sounds bad.

    • @jillcnc
      @jillcnc 27 днів тому

      And the legislature is gutting public school funding to give more money to those schools.

    • @BenEthridge
      @BenEthridge 24 дні тому

      There are seven hills in Swissy land and a lady named Heidi sits upon them. Where the Templars fled to in 1291.... Gday

  • @totonow6955
    @totonow6955 28 днів тому +2

    Spot On.

  • @nathanielwhite7007
    @nathanielwhite7007 28 днів тому +2

    Thanks !

  • @carlkuss
    @carlkuss 23 дні тому +4

    Trumpism is a cult. Or in Spanish "una secta," which also helps you to get your head around the idea.

  • @progressivenetwork3584
    @progressivenetwork3584 26 днів тому +2

    This all started with Dr Kennedy and Ken Hamm in Florida

  • @BenEthridge
    @BenEthridge 24 дні тому +3

    Trump knows how to work a crowd that's gulable

  • @AndrewFreeman-jv5xm
    @AndrewFreeman-jv5xm 20 днів тому

    Also the freedom from Wokeism

  • @suzankhoshnevisriahi824
    @suzankhoshnevisriahi824 21 день тому

    Can someone tell me the need for all these new evangelicals in the US, is it money, power surely it cannot be religious.

  • @user-by3ks9bp5d
    @user-by3ks9bp5d 24 дні тому

    Every…single…time

  • @ssgtmole8610
    @ssgtmole8610 Місяць тому +13

    The Mayflower Pilgrims were not fleeing persecution - they were looking for a place to spread their superstition.

    • @BenEthridge
      @BenEthridge 24 дні тому

      ssgtmole8610; My Great grandma said they fled the Catholic Church

    • @ssgtmole8610
      @ssgtmole8610 24 дні тому

      @@BenEthridge It is one superstitious faction "leaving town" because they could not get enough converts to overcome the other superstitious faction. They want to grow so they can claim their invisible dad in the sky can beat up the other person's invisible dad in the sky - very juvenile. Monotheism seems to bring out the worst in people.
      Made up faery stories are the death of millions of people. The current wars in Syria and Palestine are but two examples out of the thousands of crimes of superstitious belief systems. Our tax dollars are being wasted on the lie that is "Exodus" in the Abrahamic superstitions. Faith = insistence in ignorance.

  • @marysmith2215
    @marysmith2215 2 дні тому

    I'm lost. Too much detail for one lecture.

  • @robertsmith5744
    @robertsmith5744 14 днів тому +1

    Tax All "religions".

  • @jocelantanner4517
    @jocelantanner4517 13 днів тому

    Brilliant 😂

  • @fluxfaze
    @fluxfaze 21 день тому +1

    Belief demands assumptions. Hence, belief is a sucker’s game.

  • @jonnieinbangkok
    @jonnieinbangkok 29 днів тому +1

    18🙋🏼 18🙋🏼‍♀️ 18🙋🏼‍♂️

  • @pozleo78
    @pozleo78 29 днів тому +6

    I call them PRAYcists.

    • @llh3025
      @llh3025 23 дні тому

      So you label and stereotype an entire group of people. That's really great.

  • @DJ_Gadfly
    @DJ_Gadfly 13 днів тому

    Sooooo happy to be the 666th like of the video!

  • @rickyblackburn-n9e
    @rickyblackburn-n9e 28 днів тому

    Extrapolate the second chapter of Daniel.

  • @XX-qi5eu
    @XX-qi5eu 27 днів тому +1

    Nat-C's. I hate Nat-C's.

  • @llh3025
    @llh3025 23 дні тому +2

    I don't think I'm comfortable with one member of a religious group criticizing a competing religion.

  • @alg11297
    @alg11297 Місяць тому +2

    Just wondering who spoke on the Pro Life side of the abortion issue at FFR?

    • @danielstadden1149
      @danielstadden1149 Місяць тому

      She died in a Texas emergency room parking lot

    • @severyn7194
      @severyn7194 24 дні тому +2

      Sounds like you think this was a debate. Hint: It's not.

    • @alg11297
      @alg11297 24 дні тому

      @@severyn7194 so it's just one side of an issue? Hint: that's called propaganda

    • @danielstadden1149
      @danielstadden1149 24 дні тому +2

      @@alg11297 It's not pro-life it's anti- choice

    • @alg11297
      @alg11297 24 дні тому

      @@danielstadden1149 just cant say pro-abortion, right. Would that include pro school choice, pro gun choice, and pro non vaccine use. My body my choice.

  • @chrishoward8473
    @chrishoward8473 23 дні тому +1

    I know this will come as a disappointment: there is no escape from religion. Even the religion of no-religion is still stuffed with religion.

    • @bennettd1275
      @bennettd1275 23 дні тому +2

      Is this like "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"? Non-religion is not a religion my guy. You're no philosopher like you dane yourself to be. 😂

  • @Alan-lv9rw
    @Alan-lv9rw 27 днів тому +4

    Nothing wrong with Christians or nationalism.

  • @nathanielwhite7007
    @nathanielwhite7007 28 днів тому

    New Apostolic Movement always looking for the most ecstatic sensationalism

  • @alg11297
    @alg11297 Місяць тому +1

    And how effective was the Moral Majority that scared you so much? How effective was Jimmy Carter as a born again Christian to change anything in the country. Why do you create this non-existent threat from some people who have no power or influence? What about Q-anon....all 17 of them in their parent's basements? I'm so glad she able to get a book deal out of this. Love to see the footnotes

    • @bidenator9760
      @bidenator9760 Місяць тому

      Yes, let's ignore how fundamentalist lunatics control Texas, which is bad alone, and several other states in the country, and the Supreme Court.

    • @danielstadden1149
      @danielstadden1149 Місяць тому +16

      Effective enough to take healthcare away from a good portion of American women

    • @DanielDennett-l9n
      @DanielDennett-l9n Місяць тому +1

      Please search PRRI’s “The Persistence of QAnon in the Post-Trump Era:”. Excerpts:
      PRRI is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to conducting independent research at the intersection of religion, culture, and public policy. The full dataset used for analysis consists of 19,399 respondents from four surveys designed and conducted by PRRI throughout 2021. All surveys were conducted among random samples of adults (ages 18 and over) living in all 50 states. The Report Reveals Nearly One in Five Americans and One in Four Republicans Still Believe in QAnon Conspiracy Theories.
      1/5 Americans would be ~66 million QAnon believers in the US, which slightly exceeds your claim of 17, all in basements. You might consider raising your estimate to 20. You’re only out by a factor of 3.8 million. More:
      QAnon beliefs were measured using three statements that are core tenets of the movement but do not specifically mention QAnon: (1) The government, media, and financial sector are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex-trafficking operation; (2) There is a storm coming soon that will sweep away the elites in power and restore the rightful leaders; and (3) Because things have gotten so far off track, true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country. Two-thirds of QAnon believers (66%) say that being Christian is important to being truly American, compared to 43% of all Americans and one in five QAnon rejecters (20%).
      No doubt you will reject this research because it contradicts you, so please come back when you’ve done your own survey of at least 19k people in all 50 states. How effective was the moral majority? They morphed into the tea party, then MAGA and QAnon, with the result that plenty of Christian imagery is visible in video of the January 6 attacks on the democratic process, Trump explicitly panders to sectarian religious interests in spite of the First Amendment and enjoys >80% evangelical support, and they’re odds-on to re-occupy the White House and at least the Senate with, according to Trump at least, an unusually radical agenda which will include, for example, use of the US military against foes of his movement like Adam Schiff. So, QUITE effective, actually. Jimmy Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize, signed the SALT II nuclear arms reduction treaty which is one component of your personal safety these 70+ years, and since founded the Carter Center whose work to eradicate Guinea Worm has resulted in a reduction in cases from 3.5 million per year, to 4 YTD in 2024. Read more broadly for a long list of his other efforts including diplomacy and the Camp David accords. So again, when you have your own Nobel Peace prize, please come back with your criticisms. To call Christian Nationalism a non-existent threat in 2024 is head-in-the-sand denialism of a very high order. One of the books banned by Republicans from libraries last year (in this particular case signed by Glenn Youngkin) is Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale, which as Atwood pointed out is far less sexually explicit than the Bible. If you don’t find that alarming in terms of both simple freedom of speech and censorship of a pointed warning about women’s rights, you should.

    • @vvvvxxxx9999
      @vvvvxxxx9999 29 днів тому +1

      Effective in casting the majority of Americans as 'Under the influence and direction of demons.'
      Creation of an enemy. Isolation.
      Fear your neighbor.

    • @bobbafett1849
      @bobbafett1849 29 днів тому +10

      Very effective in turning the once proud GOP into the GQP.