FINALLY someone using Viviana correctly and adheres to the game design philosophy. I don't really get why others have the need to test her out solo, they don't try to help her deal dmg, they just use her like she has Surtr's kit.
Because she is supposed to be a used solo as per her kit though. Otherwise, what use are the Res and Def buffs from her skills or damage reduction and shields from her talents? If you are pairing her with another op, then there are plenty of other ops who can get the job done faster and more effectively.
@@eufrosniad994 Who said there aren't better operators? The point is to stop comparing Viviana to Surtr's kit because she is just a long redeploy executer, and start letting Viviana act as a sub dps lane holder that you keep around with the help of medics. The reason for that is literally because Viviana's kit is just a simple guard that has decent dps and survivability aspects, she will always need medic and help, she will never solo. Her kit was never to be placed and left alone like Surtr.
@@AlexC-hy3mb The point I was making was in the context of using her solo. I fail to see what Surtr has to do in this matter. FYI, in this context, the OP is clearly not talking about a medic, and they are referring to the last two examples where she is doing damage while Hoshi is taking the damage. My point was that Viviana showing promise in such a context is not of interest since plenty of other operators can do better when paired with a defender. Heck, Thorns with his new module will likely do better and over a wider range than Viviana at that point.
@@eufrosniad994 @eufrosniad994 The point that the OP raised was how pointless it was to compare surtr and viviana side by side as a some "showcases" did. It just wasn't how she was meant to be played and kind of underplays the effect of the module which was the point of the showcase. I failed to see what your point is regarding what the Op said and how just letting hoshi block and showcasing the effect is somehow bad. (the mod didn't increase her survivability)
Now this is a good showcase! Wasn't expecting the s1 showcase but that's a really nice addition tbh, didn't know it worked that well. Overall a very good module ngl, Viv already had short cycles in-between skills and now she has better dmaage on skill. Really nice mod tbh, already considering skipping Vina lol.
For someone who already considered Viviana a decent operator this buff is absurdly big. She can deal more dps than Surtr up to 75 res and much more total dmg since she can stay on the field, but she needs to stay in the field and you have to time her skills right for that, while red woman have guaranteed helidropable damage in one click. Surprisingly balanced trade in my opinion.
Looking at how fast she applies burn it's unironically much better to combo her with Haze/Ifrit and Warmy. Bobbing will help her proc burn fallout that she can apply herself in 2-3 swipes on s3 and then he'll be completely useless.
Bobbing is unnecessary since its another Logos situation where the burn buildup is based on damage dealt, so you're better off just outright buffing her damage and she can proc it easily without a ritualist.
Since vivi is so good at proc burn burst, i think it would be cool for a 6 star burn ritualist to reduce the time for thr burn bust cooldown or smt like that 7k true dmg in fast cycles are better when her skills are so short
@@rw6611 The fact that it is her passive talent makes it invaluable skill for burn burst squad (if we will have that in future). Hopefully we can have her module to turn it into a global passive so that it doesn't to be in range to proc bonus burn burst damage.
@@freakdeath1020 I think it would made her too broken for a 5star, especially if future 6star burn ritualist will be as strong as Arturia, but tbh I wouldn't even mind it that much. I'm just glad that after pondering for necrosis combo so hard HG finally made burn combo workable too, even if with small issues like Bobbing and Ifrit's delta mod.
0:55 Literally both Vivianas and the music beat synced together Genuine question, does she get a huge res ignore when she attacks enemies under burned element? cuz she just dealt a massive damage the moment she proc that burn on Patriot
Technically no, but A - Burn reduces enemy RES by 20 when is triggered. B - The base module makes her deal 15% more damage to enemies under Burn Burst (aka recovering from the Burn) So yeah, she does get a lot of improvements when attacking someone thats burning
Her module makes her deal an additional 15% of damage as elemental damage to burnt enemies, which is where the extra damage comes from. As of right now, there are no enemies with elemental resistance, so it's basically true damage.
Burn fallout reduces res by 20, does 7k elemental damage in one instance and lets her deal her own elemental damage. So yes when burn burst is applied it's massive difference.
Overall good damage increase but her core problem isnt solved which is the downtime and being useless for 25 seconds between skill activations, it should have allowed to cycle faster into her skill
Wisadel brainrot has reached to people that now they expect every op to have excellent off-skill DPS too, also how is she useless off-skill tho?, she can build-up burn dmg off-skill, so she can kill enemies faster during skill, and if she had triggered the burn dmg during skill then she can deal some respectable dmg to the enemy off-skill during the leftover duration edit: i just did the math and she can trigger burn dmg off-skill on a 70RES elite/normal enemy and a 50RES boss enemy
At least her downtime is pretty low. Her skill cycles were always good and now she has impressive damage on skill. I think 25s skill cycle is pretty great actually, I mean even Vina has like a 50s cycle, sure it's a true damage skill but that's where I'd have issues with the downtime.
@@Kaj-jl7er What? Dude her core problem had always been her 25 second downtime, it lead to her dying to elites she was supposed to kill. It was literally the reason she was regarded as mediocre. How did you include wis in this? Being a 1 block st unit with downtime isnt good. Simple as that
@@Michael-zw3mr they can sorta buff skills, for example Shining with mod X gains 25% atk when equipped with S2 and +0,6 sp/s when equipped with S3. But that´s the extent they can go to, give additional effects based on the skill
@@0bscurelight689 They could only buff small details of a skill, sure, but outright changing the duration or effects of a skill is impossible for a module to do, as of now at least, gotta wait for an alpha module to be released in 2026 lmao
@@mr.clevertrick8710 that's a good point too since a few seconds of skill downtime balances out the busted elemental damage she deals with her skill uptime
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Someone who finally treats Viviana as an actual stationary Guard and not a boss helidrop like Surtr
FINALLY someone using Viviana correctly and adheres to the game design philosophy. I don't really get why others have the need to test her out solo, they don't try to help her deal dmg, they just use her like she has Surtr's kit.
Because she is supposed to be a used solo as per her kit though. Otherwise, what use are the Res and Def buffs from her skills or damage reduction and shields from her talents? If you are pairing her with another op, then there are plenty of other ops who can get the job done faster and more effectively.
@@eufrosniad994 Who said there aren't better operators? The point is to stop comparing Viviana to Surtr's kit because she is just a long redeploy executer, and start letting Viviana act as a sub dps lane holder that you keep around with the help of medics. The reason for that is literally because Viviana's kit is just a simple guard that has decent dps and survivability aspects, she will always need medic and help, she will never solo. Her kit was never to be placed and left alone like Surtr.
@@AlexC-hy3mb "lane holder"' >1 block 😭
@@AlexC-hy3mb The point I was making was in the context of using her solo. I fail to see what Surtr has to do in this matter. FYI, in this context, the OP is clearly not talking about a medic, and they are referring to the last two examples where she is doing damage while Hoshi is taking the damage. My point was that Viviana showing promise in such a context is not of interest since plenty of other operators can do better when paired with a defender. Heck, Thorns with his new module will likely do better and over a wider range than Viviana at that point.
@@eufrosniad994 @eufrosniad994 The point that the OP raised was how pointless it was to compare surtr and viviana side by side as a some "showcases" did. It just wasn't how she was meant to be played and kind of underplays the effect of the module which was the point of the showcase. I failed to see what your point is regarding what the Op said and how just letting hoshi block and showcasing the effect is somehow bad. (the mod didn't increase her survivability)
A straight forward showcase, thank you so much 🙌🏆
Now this is a good showcase! Wasn't expecting the s1 showcase but that's a really nice addition tbh, didn't know it worked that well. Overall a very good module ngl, Viv already had short cycles in-between skills and now she has better dmaage on skill. Really nice mod tbh, already considering skipping Vina lol.
Vina probably ends up with some delta module eventually to fix her
Btw it was goated af to show all skills in your signature side by side viewing. Gg
Now just wait for Talulah as a burn ritualist to make Viviana even better.
She's probably going to be a "primal guard" or something like that
Eblana.
@@Area_GnC Eblana could be the new Caster archetype (maybe delta module?)
@GaioMare Man, the delta mod's chastity needs to be protected slapping it onto every new op just wouldn't keep it special anymore.
Broh hahaha
this is what is called a showcase ❤❤❤
I feel like she'll really go ham with Aak considering how burn works and the short window the burn state is. But it's a pretty hefty improvement.
It's time for the candle knight to shine.
For someone who already considered Viviana a decent operator this buff is absurdly big. She can deal more dps than Surtr up to 75 res and much more total dmg since she can stay on the field, but she needs to stay in the field and you have to time her skills right for that, while red woman have guaranteed helidropable damage in one click. Surprisingly balanced trade in my opinion.
Bobbing's new best friend.
Looking at how fast she applies burn it's unironically much better to combo her with Haze/Ifrit and Warmy. Bobbing will help her proc burn fallout that she can apply herself in 2-3 swipes on s3 and then he'll be completely useless.
Bobbing is kinda ass ngl. And she hits elemental break fast enough on her own tbh
@kr4547 "☝️🤓"
Bobbing is unnecessary since its another Logos situation where the burn buildup is based on damage dealt, so you're better off just outright buffing her damage and she can proc it easily without a ritualist.
@@obsiangravel this is a showcase vid. I'm supposed to do that
Since vivi is so good at proc burn burst, i think it would be cool for a 6 star burn ritualist to reduce the time for thr burn bust cooldown or smt like that
7k true dmg in fast cycles are better when her skills are so short
Just pair it with warmy in Vivi is enough to proc burn bust up to 10k.
Warmy and Bobbing on their way to make enemies lose almost 10k
@@freakdeath1020 Warmy can increase the damage of each burn proc by more than 5k, almost doubling it. Warmy enjoyers unite, we're so back
@@rw6611 The fact that it is her passive talent makes it invaluable skill for burn burst squad (if we will have that in future). Hopefully we can have her module to turn it into a global passive so that it doesn't to be in range to proc bonus burn burst damage.
@@freakdeath1020 I think it would made her too broken for a 5star, especially if future 6star burn ritualist will be as strong as Arturia, but tbh I wouldn't even mind it that much. I'm just glad that after pondering for necrosis combo so hard HG finally made burn combo workable too, even if with small issues like Bobbing and Ifrit's delta mod.
0:55 Literally both Vivianas and the music beat synced together
Genuine question, does she get a huge res ignore when she attacks enemies under burned element? cuz she just dealt a massive damage the moment she proc that burn on Patriot
she deals 15% of atk as elemental dmg to enemies under burn, and Burn also debuffs res by 20
Technically no, but
A - Burn reduces enemy RES by 20 when is triggered.
B - The base module makes her deal 15% more damage to enemies under Burn Burst (aka recovering from the Burn)
So yeah, she does get a lot of improvements when attacking someone thats burning
Her module makes her deal an additional 15% of damage as elemental damage to burnt enemies, which is where the extra damage comes from. As of right now, there are no enemies with elemental resistance, so it's basically true damage.
Burn fallout reduces res by 20, does 7k elemental damage in one instance and lets her deal her own elemental damage. So yes when burn burst is applied it's massive difference.
I thought Surtr was the big winner but looking at all these showcase Vivi prolly got the most improvement.
I cant imagine if surtr get this module in the future with immortality talent upgrade
No way
HG really fix her
Kinda. Her wonky shield mechanic is still there.
We didnt get AoE Viviana but instead we get Tank Surtr
No way they make burn without talulah
Was the S1 showcased M3?
Yes, all skills are M3
I'd rather they give this module to Surtr, it fits her thematically and she benefit from the extra -20 res after burn proc better
Overall good damage increase but her core problem isnt solved which is the downtime and being useless for 25 seconds between skill activations, it should have allowed to cycle faster into her skill
Wisadel brainrot has reached to people that now they expect every op to have excellent off-skill DPS too, also how is she useless off-skill tho?, she can build-up burn dmg off-skill, so she can kill enemies faster during skill, and if she had triggered the burn dmg during skill then she can deal some respectable dmg to the enemy off-skill during the leftover duration
edit: i just did the math and she can trigger burn dmg off-skill on a 70RES elite/normal enemy and a 50RES boss enemy
The downtime is perfect. Makes for decent skill expression.
At least her downtime is pretty low. Her skill cycles were always good and now she has impressive damage on skill. I think 25s skill cycle is pretty great actually, I mean even Vina has like a 50s cycle, sure it's a true damage skill but that's where I'd have issues with the downtime.
@@Kaj-jl7er What? Dude her core problem had always been her 25 second downtime, it lead to her dying to elites she was supposed to kill. It was literally the reason she was regarded as mediocre. How did you include wis in this?
Being a 1 block st unit with downtime isnt good. Simple as that
@@Kaj-jl7er Also she is dying before she is getting the burn to proc on elite or boss enemies off skill, what are you on
If only her s2 or s3 is an unlimited time skill
Unfortunately mods can't upgrade skills as they can only upgrade talents
@@Michael-zw3mr they can sorta buff skills, for example Shining with mod X gains 25% atk when equipped with S2 and +0,6 sp/s when equipped with S3. But that´s the extent they can go to, give additional effects based on the skill
@@0bscurelight689 They could only buff small details of a skill, sure, but outright changing the duration or effects of a skill is impossible for a module to do, as of now at least, gotta wait for an alpha module to be released in 2026 lmao
No you're just lazy. At least this will remain a good skill check.
@@mr.clevertrick8710 that's a good point too since a few seconds of skill downtime balances out the busted elemental damage she deals with her skill uptime