I've had these amps for a year and half. Had a lot of amps here. Many solid state, many tube. They are all pretty good but most have a little something that bugs me and they end up going bye bye. The Tyr somehow has no thing that really bothers me. It's a music lover's amp, just play it and it won't call attention to itself, just the music. I'm sure it's not the greatest amp there is but has to be one of the best bargains around. I use the Schiit Freya with some museum tubes and cables that cost more than the gear itself. I am constantly amazed at what you get for 4K retail.
thanks for giving a shot out to Dominique Fils-Aimé's music. I really enjoyed the birds track. looking forward to listening to it when i get home from work.
The fact that the Tyr is a chameleon shouldn’t require an asterisk in the review. The fact that it can differentiate a $3K preamp from a $6K preamp speaks volumes.
I’ve been interested in this amp since the days where there were only hints about its early development on line. I’ve read and watched every review I could find trying to get a grasp of how this amp might sound and how it is different from its competitors. Thank you Thomas. Your review is the first time I feel my questions have been addressed.
The Freya + sounds great with the solid state LISST tubes in the left sockets and Tung-Sol 6SN7 GTB in the right if you want a tube sound. Also fund to experiment with the solid-state rectifier from Weber.
This means it's a very transparent and accurate amp. It's not coloring the sound much if at all. And the fact it keeps up with much higher end preamps. Speaks volumes about it's value and how good they really are when the front gear limits the amps. That's some quality stuff.
This model belongs in their much anticipated *EXCREMENT* product line. High end enough for *AS's* reviewers to touch! Seriously "a schyttr"? This childishness has to end! Excellent review as always Mr.T. Well done keeping it professional with a straight face. Not getting anywhere near the stupid name. You're a great addition to the AS staff! 🎵🎶😀🎶🎵
Some may disagree of the potential meaning in your statement. Tyr weighs 53#, another highly touted class AB monobloc is AVA's M225 @ a mere 15#. Schiit delivers 3.5x more mass for the same $3400/pr SRP. One might reasonably conclude Schiit's value is higher. Lastly, Tyr has a big PS choke where AVA has multiples of its biggest, most costly electrolytic high-voltage filter capacitors. The former can last virtually forever, the latter has a shelf-life range between 15 to 25 years. Tyr's big PS choke contributes a lot or most of the mass difference.
Thank you, Thomas for this superb review. Something I'm not clear about: when is it the case that the best power amps can perform their best without the best source and preamp? I don't understand how Tyr's sensitivity to the preamp is a negative. The better, more refined and more revealing is the power amp, I presume in all cases the power amp is more transparent to the source and preamp. I may miss something obvious and if so, I apologize.
Hasn't anybody noticed the speaker binding posts are so far apart and the IEC power cord connection is right in between them? For me that is a problem in and of itself.
Always is a pleasure to listen to TT's stories... a hi-fi stories which can pull you into journey perspective, relaxed + funny way, not just another review-er with check out boxes. Bravo TT, keep it doing so... :))
Mr. Tan tells us his McIntosh Preamp did not integrate with the Tyr Amps well, does he state which Preamp that was or does anyone know which McIntosh Preamp he used to evaluate the Tyr ??
Pardon butting in... I'm pairing with CSS Typhons and the Tyrs astound. The current delivery into the 4 ohms is so effortless you get this personal studio concert feeling and that "Ohh! That was their intent when making this recording". They dig out so much bass depth, detail, separation I feel like I'm missing nothing now. I'm 57 and a budget audiophile since HS and never has my system leveled up so much. Wife agrees.
Thomas, great review as always! P.S. try a passive preamp instead of an active preamp with the Tyr. Right now I'm using the little Schiit Sys Passive Preamp / dual input switch with my Schiit Vidar amp and you know what, it sounds great. Remember the old maxim - "The best preamp is no preamp at all!" LOL. 😃
*Thomas,Again another great review. *QUESTION: I was thinking of getting a pair of TYR's and the Freya+ to replace my Marantz PM10. What are your thoughts? Thx,Tommy
I use a PS Audio GCD as a preamp and get fantastic sound from this combo. I also use Iconoclast cables which preserve timing and air in recordings. This isn’t the 1st time someone said the preamp makes a huge difference.
@@patfrederick7327I agree. Nothing can wreck a system faster than a mismatched preamp. However, its one of those things that people need to hear for themselves. That's why it takes so long for most people to figure it out.
I wanted to buy these buy the idle power is 60 watts/channel according to the AI talker on the Schitt site. That's more than my Parasound JC5. I don't want a Class D amp, but the high end D;s are suppose to be sounding better on the high end. Any suggestions?
Hi Thomas ! Would you recommend this power amps in combination with Lyngdorf amp and Focal 1027 Be speakers ? Do I achieve better stage and seperation clarity ? ManyThanks ! Pit
What does it mean when the reviewer says "if you're looking for lively, look elsewhere." Does that mean it has a poor dynamic range and contrast, and it does not scale correctly from ppp to FFFF?!? Please explain your "vocabularly" such as "liveliness" and what you mean by it, so others know what you mean when you use an audio term ("Lively").
Something to remember: Schiit is made in the USA and the goal was to provide high end sound without the boutique pricing. More often than not, when you talk 5, and 10,000 pre-amps, you are talking about stuff that is often made in Asia for pennies on the dollar, and arbitrarily overpriced to command respect in the high end community. They often have a lavish overhead to pay for too. Take away the CNC milled chassis and put it in a plain box, then do a double blind test. All too often the high end is a "presentation" voicing. Not better, just specific, and different. A lot of it does seem to smooth out the treble in an unnatural and attenuated way.
I started listening hoping to get some guidance on my plan to match a pair of these amps with a McIntosh pre amp , because I wanted tone controls and Mac has a tremendous reputation. ,I felt the pre amp section more critical, and perhaps could save some money on the amps. Back to the drawing board.
You have it right. As long as you don't make any big mistakes when selecting your amp and speakers, the preamp is definitely the most important component to get right. If you are wondering why this is, it has to do with signal strength. The weaker the signal, the more fragile it is. Lower voltage components have to be made to a higher standard. For example, in order for a line stage to equal the sound quality of a power amp, it needs to be made to a higher standard than the amp. A MM phono preamp has to be made better than the linestage to get the same level of sound quality, Same thing going down to a MC phono stage. Low voltage signals are more prone to be effected by outside factors.
I think it's a bit overpriced I would say about 600 Dollars max I don't understand this, with professional Gear you can get things a lot cheaper I know they sell more of it but even so you can buy a 1600w ab amplifier for 400 dollars. I think it's about time they bought the prices down.
Sometimes this “thinking” doesn’t need to be shared in the comments. Just don’t buy it if you think it’s not for you or your budget or your taste or use case.
I run Maggie LRS from time to time and I agree the Try is not really great with those speakers. I had much better luck with the 30 watt Pass Labs 30.8. makes no sense but that amp weighs 100 lbs so there is a lot going on with the 30 watts. I would wish for a little more with the LRS but it's close with the 30.8. Probably one of the bigger class A Pass Labs amps would be wonderful with Maggies
This might be the worst take I’ve ever seen. Things change, better tech, better understanding, new ideas. Hop in your steam engine car and go home, lol
I've had these amps for a year and half. Had a lot of amps here. Many solid state, many tube. They are all pretty good but most have a little something that bugs me and they end up going bye bye. The Tyr somehow has no thing that really bothers me. It's a music lover's amp, just play it and it won't call attention to itself, just the music. I'm sure it's not the greatest amp there is but has to be one of the best bargains around. I use the Schiit Freya with some museum tubes and cables that cost more than the gear itself. I am constantly amazed at what you get for 4K retail.
I've had these for around a year and I love them. Only a slight hum on one of them which I can live with.
Because of Thomas i often start my maths lesson by an "Let me tell you a story..."
Great review Thomas as always.
These work amazingly well with my magnepan 3.7i I finally got to hear how much bass my speakers really have
Whoa.... you are EVERYWHERE Thomas ! Rock on !
Thomas is the future of TAS !
thanks for giving a shot out to Dominique Fils-Aimé's music. I really enjoyed the birds track. looking forward to listening to it when i get home from work.
She is amazing. Sleepy is my favorite song from that album.
Awesome!! Thomas as usual .....Glad to see with " the absolute sound "good move on them ...
The fact that the Tyr is a chameleon shouldn’t require an asterisk in the review. The fact that it can differentiate a $3K preamp from a $6K preamp speaks volumes.
I’ve been interested in this amp since the days where there were only hints about its early development on line. I’ve read and watched every review I could find trying to get a grasp of how this amp might sound and how it is different from its competitors. Thank you Thomas. Your review is the first time I feel my questions have been addressed.
The Freya + sounds great with the solid state LISST tubes in the left sockets and Tung-Sol 6SN7 GTB in the right if you want a tube sound. Also fund to experiment with the solid-state rectifier from Weber.
Great review Thomas ❤
Beautifully done. TT you've done an excellent job with this review.
This means it's a very transparent and accurate amp. It's not coloring the sound much if at all. And the fact it keeps up with much higher end preamps. Speaks volumes about it's value and how good they really are when the front gear limits the amps. That's some quality stuff.
This model belongs in their much anticipated *EXCREMENT* product line.
High end enough for *AS's* reviewers to touch!
Seriously "a schyttr"?
This childishness has to end!
Excellent review as always Mr.T.
Well done keeping it professional with a straight face. Not getting anywhere near the stupid name.
You're a great addition to the AS staff!
🎵🎶😀🎶🎵
All said with a straight face. You couldn’t write a better comedy sketch.
I like your measured approach Thomas, and feel like I can judge the equipment based on your analysis,, and descriptors.
The Tyr convinced me with the weight. Excellent review as always! 😊👍
Some may disagree of the potential meaning in your statement. Tyr weighs 53#, another highly touted class AB monobloc is AVA's M225 @ a mere 15#. Schiit delivers 3.5x more mass for the same $3400/pr SRP. One might reasonably conclude Schiit's value is higher. Lastly, Tyr has a big PS choke where AVA has multiples of its biggest, most costly electrolytic high-voltage filter capacitors. The former can last virtually forever, the latter has a shelf-life range between 15 to 25 years. Tyr's big PS choke contributes a lot or most of the mass difference.
Thank you, Thomas for this superb review. Something I'm not clear about: when is it the case that the best power amps can perform their best without the best source and preamp? I don't understand how Tyr's sensitivity to the preamp is a negative. The better, more refined and more revealing is the power amp, I presume in all cases the power amp is more transparent to the source and preamp. I may miss something obvious and if so, I apologize.
What's most amazing to me is that this company actually decided to run with THAT name.
A bold move, for sure, and I seriously doubt it has negatively affected their business one iota.
Comedy is subjective. They seem to have found their niche.
i have a coupLe of pieces - it's some good Schiit!
Nice job, Thomas.
Well done 👍
Hasn't anybody noticed the speaker binding posts are so far apart and the IEC power cord connection is right in between them? For me that is a problem in and of itself.
Good observation.
True…had to split wires a few inches to reach the binding posts
These amps are such a game changer for me, I cannot believe it. $3k sting feels like a bargain now. So musical, involving, palpable. Wow!
It's been a few weeks now. Still continue to amaze me. Finally real hifi!!!!
Always is a pleasure to listen to TT's stories... a hi-fi stories which can pull you into journey perspective, relaxed + funny way, not just another review-er with check out boxes. Bravo TT, keep it doing so... :))
Mr. Tan tells us his McIntosh Preamp did not integrate with the Tyr Amps well, does he state which Preamp that was or does anyone know which McIntosh Preamp he used to evaluate the Tyr ??
You never mentioned speaker pairings Thomas. How are these amps with your new TL speakers? ✌️
Pardon butting in... I'm pairing with CSS Typhons and the Tyrs astound. The current delivery into the 4 ohms is so effortless you get this personal studio concert feeling and that "Ohh! That was their intent when making this recording". They dig out so much bass depth, detail, separation I feel like I'm missing nothing now. I'm 57 and a budget audiophile since HS and never has my system leveled up so much. Wife agrees.
Would these mono blocks pair well with a high output gain tube pre ?
Thomas, great review as always!
P.S. try a passive preamp instead of an active preamp with the Tyr. Right now I'm using the little Schiit Sys Passive Preamp / dual input switch with my Schiit Vidar amp and you know what, it sounds great.
Remember the old maxim - "The best preamp is no preamp at all!" LOL. 😃
*Thomas,Again another great review.
*QUESTION: I was thinking of getting a pair of TYR's and the Freya+ to replace my Marantz PM10.
What are your thoughts?
Thx,Tommy
I use a PS Audio GCD as a preamp and get fantastic sound from this combo. I also use Iconoclast cables which preserve timing and air in recordings. This isn’t the 1st time someone said the preamp makes a huge difference.
@@patfrederick7327I agree. Nothing can wreck a system faster than a mismatched preamp. However, its one of those things that people need to hear for themselves. That's why it takes so long for most people to figure it out.
Do you have high end preamp reviews?
Hi Thomas, great review! thanks a lot! Did you connect the Tyrs with Magnepans? are they able to drive them to the full potential???
I own a pair and they seem like they are very powerful/tried them with 4ohm speakers . I also like them because they are very unique in their design….
The audio alone is hilarious.
I wanted to buy these buy the idle power is 60 watts/channel according to the AI talker on the Schitt site. That's more than my Parasound JC5. I don't want a Class D amp, but the high end D;s are suppose to be sounding better on the high end. Any suggestions?
Thomas what is the McIntosh preamp you used?
Schitt Tyr's full!!
Great video as always. Does it have magic with Maggies, or just Ok.
Hi Thomas ! Would you recommend this power amps in combination with Lyngdorf amp and Focal 1027 Be speakers ? Do I achieve better stage and seperation clarity ? ManyThanks ! Pit
Thomas - well done!
Thomas what about rolling the tubes of freya? Like using the new apos reserve 6sn7
Im a fan of your reviews Thomas. When will you do the Arcam A25 full review?
They are Schiit.
Over-priced for their sound.
What does it mean when the reviewer says "if you're looking for lively, look elsewhere." Does that mean it has a poor dynamic range and contrast, and it does not scale correctly from ppp to FFFF?!? Please explain your "vocabularly" such as "liveliness" and what you mean by it, so others know what you mean when you use an audio term ("Lively").
Iam watching this while taking a schiit, how confusing!
55lb? lolz. I had amps so heavy, they could only go freight. Monoblocks 90lbs+. I don't miss them.
Schiit goes to Audio shows?
Hey it's a new tier of shiit
You tube reviews of equipment take note. If you build a name and following one day you could work for the big boys to.
Something to remember: Schiit is made in the USA and the goal was to provide high end sound without the boutique pricing. More often than not, when you talk 5, and 10,000 pre-amps, you are talking about stuff that is often made in Asia for pennies on the dollar, and arbitrarily overpriced to command respect in the high end community. They often have a lavish overhead to pay for too. Take away the CNC milled chassis and put it in a plain box, then do a double blind test. All too often the high end is a "presentation" voicing. Not better, just specific, and different. A lot of it does seem to smooth out the treble in an unnatural and attenuated way.
I started listening hoping to get some guidance on my plan to match a pair of these amps with a McIntosh pre amp , because I wanted tone controls and Mac has a tremendous reputation. ,I felt the pre amp section more critical, and perhaps could save some money on the amps. Back to the drawing board.
You have it right. As long as you don't make any big mistakes when selecting your amp and speakers, the preamp is definitely the most important component to get right.
If you are wondering why this is, it has to do with signal strength. The weaker the signal, the more fragile it is. Lower voltage components have to be made to a higher standard. For example, in order for a line stage to equal the sound quality of a power amp, it needs to be made to a higher standard than the amp. A MM phono preamp has to be made better than the linestage to get the same level of sound quality, Same thing going down to a MC phono stage. Low voltage signals are more prone to be effected by outside factors.
They should have called it S Tyr ba dum tis.
Sounds like what every good component is……transparent.
I can't get past the 1940's look of Shitt hardware. For me it's a show-stopper.
I'd call it a "60's-look" all day long...
It’s industrial
Is this a class A/B or class D
Neither
It is class A/B with the first 5 watts biased into class A topology.
Watch the video 😮😂
$3200 monoblocks ?
Very interesting 👀
Thomas on TAS?
Incidentally, it's spelled "Schiit", not "Schitt".
It‘s Schiit Audio, not Schitt Audio. You should ch3ck what you are talking about and give such a splendid manufacturer credit for who he wants to be!
Freya us good for the money, but i don't love it....
Tyr not Tyre
Hmm. Interesting. He is shilling Schiit. Shouldn’t he be talking Galion?
Whats up with this background music !! ? ?
I will definitely demo the shit amp ….
Too many letters in this amplifier's class.
I think it's a bit overpriced I would say about 600 Dollars max I don't understand this, with professional Gear you can get things a lot cheaper I know they sell more of it but even so you can buy a 1600w ab amplifier for 400 dollars. I think it's about time they bought the prices down.
They have a choke as big as the power transformer. Each amp weighs 50 pounds.
@@Corndog642 I thought it was solid state? not tube
Sometimes this “thinking” doesn’t need to be shared in the comments. Just don’t buy it if you think it’s not for you or your budget or your taste or use case.
@@jedi-mic It is solid state. Using a choke in the power supply is an old design but nobody does it anymore because they’re expensive.
Some of those cheap pro amps sound like dog shit.
Shiit happens 😂😂
Won't power 20.7s 😮
Coda TS v3 800w@4ohms
62lbs 3kw toroidal, 80k capacitance
40 bipolar junction transistors
I run Maggie LRS from time to time and I agree the Try is not really great with those speakers. I had much better luck with the 30 watt Pass Labs 30.8. makes no sense but that amp weighs 100 lbs so there is a lot going on with the 30 watts. I would wish for a little more with the LRS but it's close with the 30.8. Probably one of the bigger class A Pass Labs amps would be wonderful with Maggies
I stopped buying schitt, too many versions or series of same product. If they built it right to begin with, they would not need version 2 of anything.
How is this different than most companies????
@@ThatAnalogDigital OK I see what you are saying. I think I will wait for the TYR version 2 to be released before buying...about 3 years from now.
Schiit is always developing new technology and incorporating it into their products. Would you want Toyota to stick to version 1 of their Corolla?
It's shiit ok😮😅
This might be the worst take I’ve ever seen. Things change, better tech, better understanding, new ideas.
Hop in your steam engine car and go home, lol