After uumming and aarrrring, I went all in and got a pair. They are great 🙂 They are very stable and great for midfoot striking. To combat my form going out of shape in a race and the heavier shoe, I will increase my leg and core strength training - which, I should do anyway! I really like these Lamborghini Hokas 🙂
I just run Tokyo Marathon in Cielo X1 because my last few weeks of trainign got ruined by illnes and I knew I will not be going all out and X1 felt like a fun cruiser (I only had one 10km run in it before). The shoe delivered exactly what I wanted, the weight is really not that noticeable because of the bounce and good turnover. No issues with stability despite my form deteriorating quite a bit by the end. Zero issues with the upper. I will definitely use them for longer runs with marathon pace in the future.
Thank you Chris, I bought the Saucony Pro 4 based off your race review and I am completely in love with it. I can't believe I'm saying this but I think I'm going to run it in London ahead of my usual fave Adidas Pro 3
Agree with your weight and heat concerns, after 3 hours of running even 25g every step will weigh, and heat will build up. I think there are better alternatives....look forward to see your view on the new Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris.....
I share your concerns. I’ve got the Cielo x1 and not sure for my upcoming spring marathon. I didn’t feel much from the Saucony endorphin pro 4 as the upper felt quite loose and it has less pop than endo 3. I don’t fancy sc elite v4, so maybe wait for ASICS metaspeed Paris edge🧐. Not overly interested in alpha 3’s either.
Thanks, good review. Hoping to run my first marathon later this year and looking for a good shoe, thinking endorphin pro 4 or superblast right now. Use Vaporfly for HM but my ankles always feel beat up after that distance.
liking the race reviews Fordy thank you . was pondering over this one but you confirmed the weight issue too heavy , also looking for manchester marathon shoe , which I think will be the Asics Sky Paris
Just want to say, one of my favorite things about your channel is the video length. Nice and condensed. Allows you to come, get the info you want, and leave. The 15 minute shoe reviews you see elsewhere are a pain in the ass.
I’ve recently purchased to endorphin pro 4 and ceilo x1 and i still can’t look past my adidas adios pro 3’s for marathons if I’m honest the pro 4’a are killing my feet over long distances
Did first 10 k Tempo run in them. I have wide feet and they feel perfect. First Hoka that fits me TTS. They feel very bouncy but they actually reminded me of the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Same ride.. Heavier.. More stable.. Like a training partner for the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Fist I thought its like Alphafly but the longer I run it felt like a chubby brother of the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Definitely not a racing shoe for me. By the way.. I ❤ the laces 🎉.
For a heavy runner (95kg) not particularly concerned with weight these feel brilliant for 5-10k. Perhaps next version will have a lighter stripped down upper and drop some weight but for a middle distance not too serious runner these are my favourite so far and ive pretty much run in everything.
Great vid to watch whilst jet lag kicking in in Tokyo,what about the ASICS Paris for London Chris?,saw it yesterday at the expo where people could try them,looks really good and so light
Found this exactly the same after just trialling this after the W10k. It’s fun, bouncy, proplulsive, but as you say, at that weight, what’s going to happen at 20+ miles in a marathon? Not something I’d like to risk £250 on
To be fair, I did clock them on your feet at the meet up before the race on Sunday, and I thought they were a very good looking pair of shoes. Shame about the weight. And I'd deffo struggle with the thicker upper. My feet get crazy warm.
This is probably the most fun shoe I've run in. That said, I don't think it's fit for the marathon race. Good tempo day shoe, but I wouldn't want to race in it. In my US size 10, the Rocket X2 is 1.4oz less weight and feels a lot more zippy.
They are a fantastic shoe very responsive but sadly hoka made one massive mistake and that is the weight. I did a 20 mile run for marathon training in these and after around mile 16 the pace dropped dramatically its just to heavy.....if people are thinking of a race day shoe for a 5k/10k or HM and want a Hoka shoe go for the Rocket X2, not only is it cheaper but it's a better shoe in my opinion. For a marathon shoe I'd look elsewhere.
Chris I don’t understand HOKA. Took them forever to embrace PEBA then they release a BRICK of a shoe!!! I’ve run in it and like it but damn it’s heavy. Get with the program!!! Why are they so slow to the game?
Race reviews for race day shoes is a top notch idea. When you say £250 to gamble on 'will this shoe work for me?' Hits the nail on the head when with the issue regarding the cost of super shoes 💷💷😬
Always good to hear what a shoe is like when used in anger! Not the same as a training run so I’m enjoying the before and after reviews. 👍🏻
Thanks a lot
After uumming and aarrrring, I went all in and got a pair. They are great 🙂 They are very stable and great for midfoot striking. To combat my form going out of shape in a race and the heavier shoe, I will increase my leg and core strength training - which, I should do anyway! I really like these Lamborghini Hokas 🙂
I just run Tokyo Marathon in Cielo X1 because my last few weeks of trainign got ruined by illnes and I knew I will not be going all out and X1 felt like a fun cruiser (I only had one 10km run in it before).
The shoe delivered exactly what I wanted, the weight is really not that noticeable because of the bounce and good turnover.
No issues with stability despite my form deteriorating quite a bit by the end. Zero issues with the upper.
I will definitely use them for longer runs with marathon pace in the future.
Congrats
@@FordyRuns Thanks!
Thank you Chris, I bought the Saucony Pro 4 based off your race review and I am completely in love with it. I can't believe I'm saying this but I think I'm going to run it in London ahead of my usual fave Adidas Pro 3
I’m with you
Leaning towards the end pro 4 as well....cheaper and lighter then the Cielo x1
Agree with your weight and heat concerns, after 3 hours of running even 25g every step will weigh, and heat will build up. I think there are better alternatives....look forward to see your view on the new Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris.....
Yeah I’m excited for these
Spot on... at that price, I wanna know it's going to help me run a good marathon race, not be left with doubts.
Exactly
I share your concerns. I’ve got the Cielo x1 and not sure for my upcoming spring marathon. I didn’t feel much from the Saucony endorphin pro 4 as the upper felt quite loose and it has less pop than endo 3. I don’t fancy sc elite v4, so maybe wait for ASICS metaspeed Paris edge🧐. Not overly interested in alpha 3’s either.
Edge could be the one
@@FordyRuns 🤞
Thanks, good review. Hoping to run my first marathon later this year and looking for a good shoe, thinking endorphin pro 4 or superblast right now. Use Vaporfly for HM but my ankles always feel beat up after that distance.
two good picks
liking the race reviews Fordy thank you . was pondering over this one but you confirmed the weight issue too heavy , also looking for manchester marathon shoe , which I think will be the Asics Sky Paris
good shout
Just want to say, one of my favorite things about your channel is the video length. Nice and condensed. Allows you to come, get the info you want, and leave. The 15 minute shoe reviews you see elsewhere are a pain in the ass.
Thank you! That’s for ad revenue anything over 8 they are milking it. … for me you’re more important
@@FordyRunslegend. Subscriber for life
i think my marathon shoe this year will be the new metaspeed edge, that just looks amazing
I’m looking forward to that one
Style over substance never a good strategy when running a marathon… save that for ParkRun!? 🤦🏻♂️
Happy to see a higher drop for a Hoka as my ankles can’t do low drop.
Nice one
I’ve recently purchased to endorphin pro 4 and ceilo x1 and i still can’t look past my adidas adios pro 3’s for marathons if I’m honest the pro 4’a are killing my feet over long distances
Pro 3 for the win
Love your reviews! Will you get your hands on the ASICS Metaspeed sky/edge Paris? Tried the endorphin pro 4 and really liked them.
i hope so yes there are limited testing samples here in the uk but hopefully i will
Did first 10 k Tempo run in them. I have wide feet and they feel perfect. First Hoka that fits me TTS. They feel very bouncy but they actually reminded me of the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Same ride.. Heavier.. More stable.. Like a training partner for the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Fist I thought its like Alphafly but the longer I run it felt like a chubby brother of the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Definitely not a racing shoe for me. By the way.. I ❤ the laces 🎉.
For a heavy runner (95kg) not particularly concerned with weight these feel brilliant for 5-10k. Perhaps next version will have a lighter stripped down upper and drop some weight but for a middle distance not too serious runner these are my favourite so far and ive pretty much run in everything.
I’m hoping the next version is lighter as it would then be a great shoe
What do you think of these shoes for ultramarathons? Will its weight be a problem?
I’d rather wear the superblast
Love the race review format! Will you be reviewing the Metasky Paris line?
I won’t be getting them from ASICS as I’m not the sample size so trying to source elsewhere lets see
Great vid to watch whilst jet lag kicking in in Tokyo,what about the ASICS Paris for London Chris?,saw it yesterday at the expo where people could try them,looks really good and so light
I’m tempted tbh only thing concerns me is the narrow heel
Do you find them heavier on feet then Fuelcel Elite 4?
Not done a race in them yet
A top super shoe has to be light as a feather, period. If it isn’t that, the other good points can’t make up for that deficiency. One man’s opinion…
Yep look at the ASICS
Usually true, except for the Adidas Prime X. That thing is an absolute beast
@@DreTheChronic nah, way too heavy and bulky
@@oktaviu8668 they're rapid. Found them much quicker than the Alphas
@@FordyRunsthe hoka or the Hyperion elite for 10k?
Got to be 100% sure for your marathon shoe Chris, possibly Asics Metaspeed Paris?
Tempted
@@FordyRuns will you be reviewing them?
Found this exactly the same after just trialling this after the W10k. It’s fun, bouncy, proplulsive, but as you say, at that weight, what’s going to happen at 20+ miles in a marathon? Not something I’d like to risk £250 on
There you go
What race shoe would you wear for overpronating?
Kinvara pro
To be fair, I did clock them on your feet at the meet up before the race on Sunday, and I thought they were a very good looking pair of shoes.
Shame about the weight. And I'd deffo struggle with the thicker upper. My feet get crazy warm.
Yep they are a joke shoe
This is probably the most fun shoe I've run in. That said, I don't think it's fit for the marathon race. Good tempo day shoe, but I wouldn't want to race in it. In my US size 10, the Rocket X2 is 1.4oz less weight and feels a lot more zippy.
Yeah it’s a fun shoe but at £250 I’m looking for a marathon shoe
Good morning. Alphafly+Puma Fast R Nitro elite= Hoka Cielo x1. I prefer the Hoka carbon x3. Like to Fordy. Cheers.
Nice
Thanks, seems this is more like a Adidas PrimeX and not Adidas Pro 3
They are a fantastic shoe very responsive but sadly hoka made one massive mistake and that is the weight. I did a 20 mile run for marathon training in these and after around mile 16 the pace dropped dramatically its just to heavy.....if people are thinking of a race day shoe for a 5k/10k or HM and want a Hoka shoe go for the Rocket X2, not only is it cheaper but it's a better shoe in my opinion. For a marathon shoe I'd look elsewhere.
Spot on
UK is cold ? 😂🤣
I’d say wet
Chris I don’t understand HOKA. Took them forever to embrace PEBA then they release a BRICK of a shoe!!! I’ve run in it and like it but damn it’s heavy. Get with the program!!! Why are they so slow to the game?
I agree
Race reviews for race day shoes is a top notch idea. When you say £250 to gamble on 'will this shoe work for me?' Hits the nail on the head when with the issue regarding the cost of super shoes 💷💷😬
Thanks mate
It seems to be a heavy shoe for race day shoe. Race day shoe should be below 220 grams, my height being 172 cm.
yeah its too heavy to be taken seriously look at the new asics
Wouldn’t go near it with a barge pole
Prob good shout
See-EL-O. Spanish for sky.
Thanks whatever they are called they are overpriced and too heavy
Hoka 🎻 X1 😂
ahhahaah
Definitely too heavy for a proper crack at the marathon.
Exactly
first to comment.
well done
Mate. It's pronounced "Shy-low".
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