170 hours of this game I played and I'm just now learning that Cait Sith can cast while walking and even simultaneously perfect block if he's on the moogle.
Cait has about 10 major perks. Huge damage without spending ATB, fast stagger buildup without spending ATB (both from mounted melee attacks), also fast ATB gain with his mounted melee and mounted hold square attacks. High mobility attack (moogle fortune telling) incredibly broken buffs with slots (party resist and reraise, limit gauge/limit level boost), can perfect block while casting or doing almost anything (not moogle abilities), incredible potential to dodge with: spin that is loaded with I-frames, dodge n' dive which refunds the cost when you dodge an attack with it and gives bonus ATB and does damage, ridiculous moogle dismount which behaves much like a short range teleport. 1/6 dice rolls gives you an Aerith limit break 2, (physical invulnerability). His 1 ATB lady luck buff is the only thing that makes characters' crit weapons worth using (because crits are either low damage or low chance, you can't have both without him) His mounted state is protected from certain combo attacks like Gilgamesh's Lunar Slash (unless the damage kills the moogle and dismounts him) and he can build stagger bonus with moogle knuckle which is something that only he and Tifa can meaningfully do. Most of his perks are more effective in a full party instead of solo, especially moogle knuckle. Unfortunately his unique characteristics aren't all great. 1.) He's beyond useless without ATB. You need 1 to even get him started so he requires a precious first strike materia or chocoking's cape 2.) His moogle doesn't gain the properties of materia, notably elemental materia has no effect 3.) Falling off his moogle is the absolute most helpless any character can ever be without being statused, and all it takes to fall off is for the moogle to die while you're on him. 4.) Blocking as any other character leaves you in a not-unfavorable state, but blocking with Cait on his moogle makes the moogle take damage, and if it dies he achieves fall state even though you were blocking an attack. No one else can be punished so badly for blocking. He can do a lot of things incredibly well. But he's extremely clunky at the best of times and the moogle can be a little unpredictable as it moves around the field. I think he's a candidate for most OP character in the game, right next to Tifa, in the right hands but I think he's a little too hard to use well enough for average players to feel good about him. Especially since you can only use him in the 2nd half of the game, it's easy for players to just not give him a fair chance. He has so many hidden mechanics and details.
@@aethertruck I'm trying SO hard to complete the challenge with cait and without magics and gotter , but can't go beyond Alexander and Odin , I think I will need to use magics or don't know , also is kinda difficult for me to perfect my parry's , but I'm on one way travel to victory and need to perfect my skills or how people say this days "git gud" , your video is so inspiring for me also your words !! Thank and was super well done ! ❤
@@agustinposho6250 you are trying to complete it solo as Cait Sith? I think bahamut/titan is much harder than Odin/Alexander. Are you using magic materia and avoiding casting spells? Or are you avoiding magic materia completely?
Yes , I'm trying as Cait sith solo , and without any magic , only link elemental and fire&ice on defence to absorb damage , str up and magic up , first strike , HP up ,stagger defence to perfect my parry's , but bahamut and titan is hard also, but I'm in love with the challenge and with cait ❤️, I will try to use thunder and wind for alexander and Odin , if u got any other usefull tips it will be super appreciated
His elemental phases are very challenging because the moogle does not receive elemental materia bonuses. Even the Phoenix was a huge learning curve because you can no longer ignore it like with every other character. I am not proud of this win lol
@@Mercerdaniels why do you figure? I figure it must be intentional because the moogle shares stats with the cat but I don't know why they would do it this way
Yeah I did Odin full might on cait sith last night after a bunch of practice . I’m still not super good with his left stick dodges… but.. I’m gonn keep practicing and think that this cait sith solo vs rulers is the finest example of rebirth mastery. Very nice job 👍
I’ve been using genji ear ring for cait sith practice - to give me a bit of extra damage at the cost of taking extra damage to place extra impact on success dodges
I experimented with removing lightning and wind+elemental and slotted in 2 luck ups to maximize crit value but in the end it was a dps loss. Strength and magic materia get more value than luck even on Cait, and nothing else in the build is optional
He's got a lot of hidden tools. I think it's a learning curve to figure him out. Like keeping track of the moogle's health. But I think he's one of the best characters in the game once you spend the time.
@aethertruck He definately has his uses, and I did learn a lot in the legendary. Will be cool to see what's new in the 3rd game.... in like 5 years lol
It is with a full party and magnify I think but the fact that it costs 1 ATB to use it really makes it almost useless in solo imo. Especially with so few materia slots
Ive been working on this fight for hours, not hardcore but casual and I had Sephiroth down to his last 5% and I forgot about being patient with my spell spamming i just didn't want to give him time to act, well I panic and ended up dying when he started to flip between affinities every 2 seconds :) Hopefully today I get it done right proper.
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you did it! 😁
Thank you! But Compared to you I cheated with the götterdammerung. Even with that I was slower! May I ask why you didn't use it?
@@aethertruck I like the challenge so i decide to not use gotter and genji gloves for all my characters
So glad to see two GOATs congrats together :) enjoyed both of you guys' videos!
Congrats! Just want to say your other beginner-friendly video about this challenge really helped a lot! Thanks!
You sir have made a mockery of my two day attempt at this with 3 people and I applaud you for it, very impressive and well done
170 hours of this game I played and I'm just now learning that Cait Sith can cast while walking and even simultaneously perfect block if he's on the moogle.
Cait has about 10 major perks. Huge damage without spending ATB, fast stagger buildup without spending ATB (both from mounted melee attacks), also fast ATB gain with his mounted melee and mounted hold square attacks. High mobility attack (moogle fortune telling) incredibly broken buffs with slots (party resist and reraise, limit gauge/limit level boost), can perfect block while casting or doing almost anything (not moogle abilities), incredible potential to dodge with: spin that is loaded with I-frames, dodge n' dive which refunds the cost when you dodge an attack with it and gives bonus ATB and does damage, ridiculous moogle dismount which behaves much like a short range teleport. 1/6 dice rolls gives you an Aerith limit break 2, (physical invulnerability). His 1 ATB lady luck buff is the only thing that makes characters' crit weapons worth using (because crits are either low damage or low chance, you can't have both without him) His mounted state is protected from certain combo attacks like Gilgamesh's Lunar Slash (unless the damage kills the moogle and dismounts him) and he can build stagger bonus with moogle knuckle which is something that only he and Tifa can meaningfully do.
Most of his perks are more effective in a full party instead of solo, especially moogle knuckle. Unfortunately his unique characteristics aren't all great.
1.) He's beyond useless without ATB. You need 1 to even get him started so he requires a precious first strike materia or chocoking's cape
2.) His moogle doesn't gain the properties of materia, notably elemental materia has no effect
3.) Falling off his moogle is the absolute most helpless any character can ever be without being statused, and all it takes to fall off is for the moogle to die while you're on him.
4.) Blocking as any other character leaves you in a not-unfavorable state, but blocking with Cait on his moogle makes the moogle take damage, and if it dies he achieves fall state even though you were blocking an attack. No one else can be punished so badly for blocking.
He can do a lot of things incredibly well. But he's extremely clunky at the best of times and the moogle can be a little unpredictable as it moves around the field. I think he's a candidate for most OP character in the game, right next to Tifa, in the right hands but I think he's a little too hard to use well enough for average players to feel good about him. Especially since you can only use him in the 2nd half of the game, it's easy for players to just not give him a fair chance. He has so many hidden mechanics and details.
@@aethertruckThanks for the write-up, love seeing insights like this.
@@aethertruck I'm trying SO hard to complete the challenge with cait and without magics and gotter , but can't go beyond Alexander and Odin , I think I will need to use magics or don't know , also is kinda difficult for me to perfect my parry's , but I'm on one way travel to victory and need to perfect my skills or how people say this days "git gud" , your video is so inspiring for me also your words !! Thank and was super well done ! ❤
@@agustinposho6250 you are trying to complete it solo as Cait Sith? I think bahamut/titan is much harder than Odin/Alexander. Are you using magic materia and avoiding casting spells? Or are you avoiding magic materia completely?
Yes , I'm trying as Cait sith solo , and without any magic , only link elemental and fire&ice on defence to absorb damage , str up and magic up , first strike , HP up ,stagger defence to perfect my parry's , but bahamut and titan is hard also, but I'm in love with the challenge and with cait ❤️, I will try to use thunder and wind for alexander and Odin , if u got any other usefull tips it will be super appreciated
Aw they’re so adorable even when they’re fighting
You are a patient, I’ll give u that. I finally beat this and have no desire to ever attempt it again
Holy that Sephiroth fight, you can feel the panic in the end, haha
His elemental phases are very challenging because the moogle does not receive elemental materia bonuses. Even the Phoenix was a huge learning curve because you can no longer ignore it like with every other character. I am not proud of this win lol
Yeah, Thundaga phase is scary af D:
@@aethertruckI believe I understand the dev's choice about the moogle and elemental materia...but they should change it, lol.
@@Mercerdaniels why do you figure? I figure it must be intentional because the moogle shares stats with the cat but I don't know why they would do it this way
Yeah I did Odin full might on cait sith last night after a bunch of practice . I’m still not super good with his left stick dodges… but.. I’m gonn keep practicing and think that this cait sith solo vs rulers is the finest example of rebirth mastery. Very nice job 👍
I’ve been using genji ear ring for cait sith practice - to give me a bit of extra damage at the cost of taking extra damage to place extra impact on success dodges
Here I was being all proud of doing this with the Brumal Build, lol
You did not just style on Gilgamesh with the slots?!!? HA!
I felt I needed to. I should have died 5 times over but kept getting lucky. Winning the slots made me feel a little better about the cheap win lol
What a legend
Nice! why not use luck up to raise fortune telling damage?
I experimented with removing lightning and wind+elemental and slotted in 2 luck ups to maximize crit value but in the end it was a dps loss. Strength and magic materia get more value than luck even on Cait, and nothing else in the build is optional
No idea how you have the patience. Caits legendary took me 7 hours to complete... never using him again xD
He's got a lot of hidden tools. I think it's a learning curve to figure him out. Like keeping track of the moogle's health. But I think he's one of the best characters in the game once you spend the time.
@aethertruck He definately has his uses, and I did learn a lot in the legendary. Will be cool to see what's new in the 3rd game.... in like 5 years lol
how do you guys do this😨
i can feel that battle omg haha well done
Is Haste really not worth using?
It is with a full party and magnify I think but the fact that it costs 1 ATB to use it really makes it almost useless in solo imo. Especially with so few materia slots
Me thinking this was the hardest challenge in the game as a full party
you've officially made me bad at the game lol
damn you are a masochist lol but congrats on this
jesus christ
Not a world first... but really amazing. Good game
Clearly you are insane 😂
😮😮😮😮
What you that to yourself xD
Sephiroth "no more games!" is Sephiroth trying to tell you to touch grass? haha lol. regardless amazing work here.
This is ridiculous.
Wat
My god the sephiroth fight is terrifying. This isn’t what good game design looks like 😂😂
The moogle should totally share you elemental protect I see literally no reason for it to not.
Ive been working on this fight for hours, not hardcore but casual and I had Sephiroth down to his last 5% and I forgot about being patient with my spell spamming i just didn't want to give him time to act, well I panic and ended up dying when he started to flip between affinities every 2 seconds :) Hopefully today I get it done right proper.
nah, the fight is designed okay. whats frustrating is not being able to practice gilgamesh or sephy in a seperate trial...
Oh I don’t mean the fight in its entirety. Just in this context. Cait Sith vs this on his own is a mess.