Let us all agree on this: The present situation CANNOT continue; it victimizes everyone, including the environment. And two issues must be tied together or this human tragedy will continue; mental illness and drug addiction.
This is a horrible state of affairs !!! Think how the homeless folks feel ... like the entire world cares nothing about their plight !!! Imagine the horrible suffering in jail and courts that this decision will bring upon the poor folk !!!
Wouldn't it be easier to LOWER THE RENTS??? IT'S not that complicated!! We rented out our home after researching surroundings rents -- we were charging low & had great tenants because they didn't want to lose their low rent home. Drug & mental health lacks --- government fails here!
The homeless are either asylum seekers, mentally ill, or drug addicts. This would not address any of the most common reasons people become homeless here.
The cities need to own the buildings. Right now I know that private owners are typically required to provide a percentage of low income units. Problem is they cannot get loans to buy or purchase either rental projections. The low income projections don’t support the build or purchase prices. Basically it’s not as simple as just lower the rents. If the property owners cannot take on enough income to pay their loans, it goes into foreclose and nobody has a place to live.
How do we punish people for sleeping outside if not by putting them in a jail inside that as taxpayers we also pay for and imagine the number of homeless overcrowding jails why can't we just start recognizing homelessness and fix it we have so many dilapidating buildings around this this state we need to make jobs and fix this
The problem is that they are not addressing homelessness, but how the homeless live. The decision doesn't do anything to address the root cause of why people are forced to sleep on the streets.
Grants Pass homeless camping law wasn't abusive, they allow homeless to camp in designated parks but they must move to a new park every week, this distinction means they are camping and the park is NOT their home. Homeless advocates think making them move every week was criminalizing homelessness, it is not, they would only get a ticket if they wouldn't move, some resisted moving to test the law, they failed.
We need laws preventing cities from enabling this problem. If the city is going to allow people to camp in public places, then strict standards for doing so. No drugs, no piles of trash, no disturbing residents, etc. We also need more public treatment for those with severe mental illness. That way the people just down on their luck with little support or who aren't compitent get help, not junkies and petty thives.
blah blah blah... homelessness is big business in Seattle. Why would anyone want to reduce federal and state funding? You get the cheapest frontline workers you can scrape off the bottom of the barrel and grant yourself six figures a year for "administration". Who cares if a social worker isn't remotely qualified to deal with mental health? It's the minimum the law requires, that's enough, right? Who cares if the employees are bullies who rely on favoritism over need? No one's gonna give a sht about an elderly cripple, let them sleep on the shelter floor for a dozen years! You can just step over them! Oh, and if there's any program that might possibly help the average homeless guy, you just make the hoops so impossible to jump thru you can keep your slush fund going (and call it help even tho it helps zero homeless). Why change when there's so many ways to make money???
@@duanecarroll8255exactly we already pay for it so lets use them taxes for good and get homeless of the streets and into jails simple or what am i really paying taxes for? I think we should decide where our tax money goes you decide where yours goes
Everything is down except fentanyl use is sky high sadly there's been so many overdose deaths thats prob the only reason there's less ppl homeless..😢.I'm definitely not trying to offend anyone it just doesn't make sense where did all these people go?
kind of curious about how many of the homeless are those whose lives went sideways as opposed to those who are committing crimes due to addiction. if one eliminated the drug dealers the where do they go afterwards? Get more drones , camera's, grapplers as well. Break off racers by impounding their vehicles and revoking licenses.
Being formerly homeless, I understand both sides . Haven't forgotten about sleeping on busses and trains and showering in McDonald's bathrooms. But in having done security work fo the past 16 years and dealing with homeless, I understand there has to be some order .
Obviously they should not be allowed to take up public space that is INTENDED for other things. We pay taxes for our spaces. Not to make housing for people that cannot afford to live here. If you can’t make it here, show responsibility and move elsewhere.
I pay taxes and you also get say over what I do with the land. If I like to camp out in my park, I will. You’re not special. You don’t get all of the public land to yourself.
@@pjstach134 Public land is set up for purposes designated by taxpayers and their representatives. A park is meant for daytime recreational use, not for housing. So no, you’re not special. But hte rest of us are correct in pushing for deadbeats to get arrested instead of stealing our property. And let’s be honest - you probably pay barely any taxes.
There are services to help the homeless! They just don’t want to use them because there are rules and requirements that they don’t agree with. When you’re begging for help, you don’t get to be picky and cry about “what you don’t like” when what they’re offering is FREE 😡😡😡💯💯💯
Let us all agree on this: The present situation CANNOT continue; it victimizes everyone, including the environment. And two issues must be tied together or this human tragedy will continue; mental illness and drug addiction.
SUPREME COURT ... are there any RULES allowing for AFFORDABLE HOUSING and to PREVENT CORPORATE OWNERSHIP of HOMES that leads to HIGH RENTS 🤔
SCOTUS also said the police have ZERO obligation to respond to calls on tents or any other crime. ZERO. Please note this.
This is a horrible state of affairs !!! Think how the homeless folks feel ... like the entire world cares nothing about their plight !!! Imagine the horrible suffering in jail and courts that this decision
will bring upon the poor folk !!!
Wouldn't it be easier to LOWER THE RENTS??? IT'S not that complicated!! We rented out our home after researching surroundings rents -- we were charging low & had great tenants because they didn't want to lose their low rent home. Drug & mental health lacks --- government fails here!
thats ant-greed/profit, isnt allowed
The homeless are either asylum seekers, mentally ill, or drug addicts. This would not address any of the most common reasons people become homeless here.
Wouldn't it be easier if apartment owners let them live there for free?
@@saintbees2088the migrants are
The cities need to own the buildings. Right now I know that private owners are typically required to provide a percentage of low income units. Problem is they cannot get loans to buy or purchase either rental projections. The low income projections don’t support the build or purchase prices. Basically it’s not as simple as just lower the rents. If the property owners cannot take on enough income to pay their loans, it goes into foreclose and nobody has a place to live.
How do we punish people for sleeping outside if not by putting them in a jail inside that as taxpayers we also pay for and imagine the number of homeless overcrowding jails why can't we just start recognizing homelessness and fix it we have so many dilapidating buildings around this this state we need to make jobs and fix this
Outta sight, outta mind for the ones who don’t wanna see it and still collect a paycheck. That’s the issue.
The problem is that they are not addressing homelessness, but how the homeless live.
The decision doesn't do anything to address the root cause of why people are forced to sleep on the streets.
Nice, so we feed and house them for free! Why don’t you just give everyone half an acre and we move on.
They could always go live out in the Woods
@@Jaymargera28 how? EVERY woods is OWNED by either the gov or "private property"!
unhoused. Listen to their language!
Wonder where they will go?
Just leading into or the woods. I cant beleave I've seen towns ship the homeless to seattle
Seattle wants the homeless.
Grants Pass homeless camping law wasn't abusive, they allow homeless to camp in designated parks but they must move to a new park every week, this distinction means they are camping and the park is NOT their home. Homeless advocates think making them move every week was criminalizing homelessness, it is not, they would only get a ticket if they wouldn't move, some resisted moving to test the law, they failed.
Me like, I am not sure that I must pay for the homeless. Otherwise, they have no initiative to become un-homeless without a little push !!!!
We need laws preventing cities from enabling this problem. If the city is going to allow people to camp in public places, then strict standards for doing so. No drugs, no piles of trash, no disturbing residents, etc. We also need more public treatment for those with severe mental illness.
That way the people just down on their luck with little support or who aren't compitent get help, not junkies and petty thives.
blah blah blah... homelessness is big business in Seattle. Why would anyone want to reduce federal and state funding? You get the cheapest frontline workers you can scrape off the bottom of the barrel and grant yourself six figures a year for "administration". Who cares if a social worker isn't remotely qualified to deal with mental health? It's the minimum the law requires, that's enough, right? Who cares if the employees are bullies who rely on favoritism over need? No one's gonna give a sht about an elderly cripple, let them sleep on the shelter floor for a dozen years! You can just step over them! Oh, and if there's any program that might possibly help the average homeless guy, you just make the hoops so impossible to jump thru you can keep your slush fund going (and call it help even tho it helps zero homeless). Why change when there's so many ways to make money???
@punchkitten874
Yea, pretty much.
Not saying that isn't how it works currently. Just saying what should be done if they actually cared.
@@CalvinJGreen sigh, sorry, been thru it, seeing some folks I knew still suffering just chafes my britches. I hate Seattle
SMH
Repurpose failing malls into low income housing
Jail is a form of shelter and housing, correct?
Jail is way more expensive than housing! Are you ready to pay higher taxes?
@@duanecarroll8255exactly we already pay for it so lets use them taxes for good and get homeless of the streets and into jails simple or what am i really paying taxes for? I think we should decide where our tax money goes you decide where yours goes
….yes… but you forgot the whole not robbing people of their rights and dignity thing. Kinda important
@@eriks8382 it's more dignified to sleep in a tent on the sidewalk than in jail?
@@saintbees2088 have you ever been in jail before?
Everything is down except fentanyl use is sky high sadly there's been so many overdose deaths thats prob the only reason there's less ppl homeless..😢.I'm definitely not trying to offend anyone it just doesn't make sense where did all these people go?
kind of curious about how many of the homeless are those whose lives went sideways as opposed to those who are committing crimes due to addiction. if one eliminated the drug dealers the where do they go afterwards? Get more drones , camera's, grapplers as well. Break off racers by impounding their vehicles and revoking licenses.
Deanna souders Rensselaer in thats wrong for homeless Deanna souders Rensselaer in says do not give them cash only talk help or food souders llc
Weeding out the weak
Being formerly homeless, I understand both sides . Haven't forgotten about sleeping on busses and trains and showering in McDonald's bathrooms. But in having done security work fo the past 16 years and dealing with homeless, I understand there has to be some order .
Forced Workhouses are the only solution
jail is shelter... move along.
That’s the last thing we need right now is to shove more people into overcrowded poorly maintained prisons
@@eriks8382 keep 'em at your house then.
@@ans88682 shut up
Attitudes like that are why the human race is doomed.
@eriks8382 prisons have plenty of room since no prosecutor or judge will send any criminals there.
Obviously they should not be allowed to take up public space that is INTENDED for other things. We pay taxes for our spaces. Not to make housing for people that cannot afford to live here. If you can’t make it here, show responsibility and move elsewhere.
nice! 😈
I pay taxes and you also get say over what I do with the land. If I like to camp out in my park, I will. You’re not special. You don’t get all of the public land to yourself.
@@pjstach134 Public land is set up for purposes designated by taxpayers and their representatives. A park is meant for daytime recreational use, not for housing. So no, you’re not special. But hte rest of us are correct in pushing for deadbeats to get arrested instead of stealing our property. And let’s be honest - you probably pay barely any taxes.
There are services to help the homeless! They just don’t want to use them because there are rules and requirements that they don’t agree with. When you’re begging for help, you don’t get to be picky and cry about “what you don’t like” when what they’re offering is FREE 😡😡😡💯💯💯
Jail is shelter lol
We don't even lock up thieves in this town, booked then released
Boycott Grants Pass
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