You have made my Friday evening with this video! I'm the sad kind of girl who follows rivers from source to sea on Google maps with my mouse for fun! It's great to have the opportunity be able to follow an "unseen" river too !
On the contrary! I do the same thing, and it can be a fascinating diversion. It's wonderful to see where and why towns sprung up along navigable waterways, and how rivers either shape the land along them, or vice versa.
My favourite thing is to follow railway lines(the reason I watch this channel). But I especially love trying to find the old routes of dismantled or long gone rail alignments, where you would never be able to tell from the ground that there was once a railway cutting through, but from the satellite image you can clearly see where the line has scared the landscape in it's journey to get to wherever it was going.
Yes - there are plenty of other highlights we could have shown, like the steep hills of Farringdon and the manhole cover where you can hear the Fleet just north of Clerkenwell Road. But we didn't want the video to be too long, and we wanted to save some surprises for those who do the walk.
Very good. I knew most of it, but not that a connection to the river was the reason for Angle's Lane in Kentish Town, and the nice tiled map in Farringdon Rd near the viaduct. (Also, probably obvious, but that's why we have Fleet Rd, just South of South End Green, and of course, Fleet St).
Very interesting. I will follow the two branches to Camden and then do another walk to Blackfriars from there. Thank you and please produce some more videos of our other lost rivers if you can.
Very interesting. And I must confess I've never even heard of the river fleet before ...That's bad isn't it...But you really do learn something every day ♥️
I have read a different reason for the curve of the Great Northern Hotel. It involves the curved rail tunnel below it taking the Kings Cross lines down on to the District line. This rail tunnel is obviously now out of use. It was called " Hotel Curve " on maps
Thanks for the video! I enjoyed watching it! Not entirely sure I'd be able to do the walk myself, but it's certainly worth a try if I'm in the country!
This video has been stolen from here and re-uploaded as "The Hidden River Fleet" on a channel called "Iniziazione Antica" (they stole from me too.) Please report them.
The Fleet flows under Fleetway House by Bear Alley off Farringdon St, where many famous British comics like Lion and Tiger were produced. Now and then the vaults below would flood, threatening to damage the library of comic volumes some of which had to be carried up to higher shelves. I worked at Fleetway Publications for 10 years and always wanted to see the vaults when flooded, but never did as security was tight and you weren´t allowed to just wander in.
Fascinating and well done! I would have liked to have seen a contemporary map (meaning back then, not now), if one exists, showing the Fleet when it was above-ground.
Thank you. We considered adding an old map, but it doesn't work on video too well. Try this map from 1741, in which you can see the Fleet winding down from King's Cross at the very top, down to Blackfriars, where it is canalised. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Rocque%27s_Map_of_London_1741-5.jpg
edsloan In Belfast there is a River Blackstaff. It once marked the limits of the old city. But nowadays it's in its own tunnel. The only evidence of it remaining is its drain exit into the Lagan.
When the Thames tideway tunnel is complete will the lower reaches of the Fleet never be seen again? Presumably the overflow at Blackfriars will be diverted into the new tunnel.
I wondered where it started and ended. The Jubilee Line was called The Fleet line when planned and under construction due, apparently running in some places, parallel to the river Fleet.
What is now the Jubilee Line was previously named the Fleet Line because it was originally planned to run under Fleet Street, which gets its name from the River Fleet. In the end, the plan was changed and the line was extended elsewhere. As far as I know, the original route did not run parallel to the river itself.
They didn't have enough concrete to bury the Thames people chucked there excrement in to rivers stinking them up down stream Also the underground (Metro, H&C, ⚪) are built in the fleet from Kings Cross to Farringdon which required a diversion to the river
One shot for every time he says 'the river fleet' ?
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Here's a wonderful song where Fleet, Westbourne and a couple of the other lost rivers of London are heralded! bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/track/lost-rivers-of-london-2
I'm Matt from the video. Would people like to see us track down the other buried rivers of London, like the Tyburn, Effra and Peck?
Yes please.
Definitely, please do!
Matt Brown yes please do!
Yes- details about the other lost rivers would be of great interest.
Yes!
Great vid. Such a shame all the old rivers aren’t visible anymore. Would be nice to have a few more Rivers and waterways in London
You have made my Friday evening with this video! I'm the sad kind of girl who follows rivers from source to sea on Google maps with my mouse for fun! It's great to have the opportunity be able to follow an "unseen" river too !
On the contrary! I do the same thing, and it can be a fascinating diversion. It's wonderful to see where and why towns sprung up along navigable waterways, and how rivers either shape the land along them, or vice versa.
My favourite thing is to follow railway lines(the reason I watch this channel). But I especially love trying to find the old routes of dismantled or long gone rail alignments, where you would never be able to tell from the ground that there was once a railway cutting through, but from the satellite image you can clearly see where the line has scared the landscape in it's journey to get to wherever it was going.
Tom P I'm going to have to try that too...! We have a dismantled part of the GWR that run about half a mile from our house...
I want a sad kind of girl.
Nice one. I'm a fan of the lost rivers of London - knowledge of which won me quite a bit of money in a pub quiz once.
Absolutely love this kind of thing
Yeah, me too!
Yes, more longer videos. Excellent coverage of the Fleet.
Thank you so much for this video. I grew up on the Farringdon Road and knew North London and Hampstead very well. Fleet River meets memory lane!
All of this is so fascinating.
Fascinating...want to see more of the ancient London Rivers...
It would have been nice to see more detail but I note the recommendation to do the walk in person. Thank you for making the video!
Yes - there are plenty of other highlights we could have shown, like the steep hills of Farringdon and the manhole cover where you can hear the Fleet just north of Clerkenwell Road. But we didn't want the video to be too long, and we wanted to save some surprises for those who do the walk.
I hope to do the walk in the new year - looking forward to being surprised :)
+Matt Brown Your points make sense for folks living near London, but less so for your international viewers!
Matt Brown lambs conduit as well
Very good. I knew most of it, but not that a connection to the river was the reason for Angle's Lane in Kentish Town, and the nice tiled map in Farringdon Rd near the viaduct. (Also, probably obvious, but that's why we have Fleet Rd, just South of South End Green, and of course, Fleet St).
Any fans of Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London series?
indeed
Andrew Bulman Yes, indeed! Love those books and as a child I used to play jumping over Beverley Brook, which we called The Ditch!
Very interesting. John Rogers does lots of hidden London rivers videos, too.
Brilliant video as always... thanks for this.
Very interesting. I will follow the two branches to Camden and then do another walk to Blackfriars from there. Thank you and please produce some more videos of our other lost rivers if you can.
Very interesting. And I must confess I've never even heard of the river fleet before ...That's bad isn't it...But you really do learn something every day ♥️
Great video. Thanks very much for making and posting it.
Even as a non Londoner this is interesting.
That was a very nice video. Keep going! :D
Did you write the book lost rivers of London.
I have read a different reason for the curve of the Great Northern Hotel. It involves the curved rail tunnel below it taking the Kings Cross lines down on to the District line. This rail tunnel is obviously now out of use. It was called " Hotel Curve " on maps
Very interesting!! Thank you!
Thanks for the video! I enjoyed watching it! Not entirely sure I'd be able to do the walk myself, but it's certainly worth a try if I'm in the country!
This video has been stolen from here and re-uploaded as "The Hidden River Fleet" on a channel called "Iniziazione Antica" (they stole from me too.) Please report them.
The Fleet flows under Fleetway House by Bear Alley off Farringdon St, where many famous British comics like Lion and Tiger were produced. Now and then the vaults below would flood, threatening to damage the library of comic volumes some of which had to be carried up to higher shelves. I worked at Fleetway Publications for 10 years and always wanted to see the vaults when flooded, but never did as security was tight and you weren´t allowed to just wander in.
Matt great video I find this sort of fascinating. You should check out the fiction series The Rivers Of London, They're a great read :)
Fascinating and well done! I would have liked to have seen a contemporary map (meaning back then, not now), if one exists, showing the Fleet when it was above-ground.
Thank you. We considered adding an old map, but it doesn't work on video too well. Try this map from 1741, in which you can see the Fleet winding down from King's Cross at the very top, down to Blackfriars, where it is canalised. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Rocque%27s_Map_of_London_1741-5.jpg
Really nice. London is a fantastic city!!!!!!
Really interesting, I never there was a river under this part of the city. I'm guessing this is how Fleet Street gets its name.
That's right. There's also a Fleet Road up near Hampstead.
edsloan In Belfast there is a River Blackstaff. It once marked the limits of the old city. But nowadays it's in its own tunnel. The only evidence of it remaining is its drain exit into the Lagan.
Exactly. The old fleet river is directly underneath Fleet Street, and the street follows the route the river took.
Amazing vids ....thank you :)
Fascinating video!
Is that why it's called Fleet Street then?
When the Thames tideway tunnel is complete will the lower reaches of the Fleet never be seen again? Presumably the overflow at Blackfriars will be diverted into the new tunnel.
That's right. The only way to see the Fleet at Blackfriars will be to go into the sewers.
I wondered where it started and ended. The Jubilee Line was called The Fleet line when planned and under construction due, apparently running in some places, parallel to the river Fleet.
What is now the Jubilee Line was previously named the Fleet Line because it was originally planned to run under Fleet Street, which gets its name from the River Fleet. In the end, the plan was changed and the line was extended elsewhere. As far as I know, the original route did not run parallel to the river itself.
I can't believe that this is December in London!
Interesting video.
The map at 2:12 shows the river crossing Regent's Canal. Waterways don't generally cross - I suppose the Fleet is in a tunnel or pipe at that point?
Is that where Effra road in Brixton comes from
I love KX curve !
It looks very small. Whats the difference between a river and a stream?
I thought that. How can you fit a river into a pipe 🤯
5.58 mins. The Fleet’s confluence with Thames is easy to see from the location described in clip but you need a LOW TIDE.
The technical word for the buried part of the fleet is “culverted”
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hanks Matt
Feets?! 😂
Good video 👍🏻
Nice
Don't forget the Wandle.
Was it really used for sewage in medieval times . Used to be very stinky in London times. So, it was very pretty at one time?
Why is it that many rivers in London, other than the Thames, are buried underground?
I'm not from London :)
They didn't have enough concrete to bury the Thames
people chucked there excrement in to rivers stinking them up down stream
Also the underground (Metro, H&C, ⚪) are built in the fleet from Kings Cross to Farringdon which required a diversion to the river
One shot for every time he says 'the river fleet' ?
Here's a wonderful song where Fleet, Westbourne and a couple of the other lost rivers of London are heralded! bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/track/lost-rivers-of-london-2
2:55 "Willy"
At what point does the Fleet become a sewer?
When the navvies were digging belsize tunnel they broke into the river and piped it underneath in 1868
5 miles long? You can do that in an hour lad.
Thank you for the video, I'm off!
Not sure I want to paddle in a sewer.
Anyone else here after reading Rivers of London? 🤣
hampstead heath has been ruined for me by its seedy connotations :/ lol
Please elaborate! I'm curious as to what you mean.
west heath (i think) is a very renowned male dogging spot after dark lol
Chasbo Daniels the heath is known for cruising for sex and naked swimming in the some of the ponds....
Oh geez, well I'm not into that. Thanks for the info. haha
George Michael famously went there for....
In another London park, George shunted a Trucker there...
Ok, I will get my coat and leave...
get this fuckin music off