Froch could get schooled all day and still get a ko win. Point is Ward was tougher, rougher and out muscled him, as well as being more clever, and Froch didn't expect that. Froch probably won one round and if he'd fought that round every round, he'd have gassed out by half way.
@@TC8787-yq7og2x National champion, Gold medalist, two division champ, 10 defenses. Went out when he knew it was time. I gotta be honest, that's a pretty damn good resume.
Fair play I had no idea Andre Ward was such an intelligent and insightful bloke. Got into boxing after his time. That last part is a lesson to all young fighters: you’ve got one body, one brain. Fight smart and look after them, especially in sparring!
Ward has to be one of the most underrated boxers ever imo. A strong minded, tenacious, super smart operator, who should’ve had a longer & higher profile spell at the top of the sport.
You factually don't know any of the great fighters from history saying that. Ward is not a great fighter and shouldn't be anywhere near the HOF. His resume is too weak to be there. He isn't in the top 1,000. However, just for fun, could you please give me the rest of your top 5?
@@seablock 1 . Smoking Joe Frazier 2. Sugar Ray Robinson 3. Sonny Liston 4. Robert Durán . But u seem completely correct , I don’t know any great fighters from history by saying that . Ward was a phenomenal fighter , hasn't lost a fight since he was 14 . Also this is not for “fun” , this is my personal opinion . To sit there and criticise someone you know nothing about is unnecessary and uncalled for . I’m not here to dispute . It’s just the way I feel
@@seablock just the man's opinion, by the looks of it he knows a few of the great fighter from history 🤭 Just for fun, My Top 5 As Follows: Marvelous Marvin Hagler. (best MW I have ever seen). Manny Pacquiao (prob the best ever!). Mike Tyson. (force of nature). Roberto Duran. (now he was something special). Muhammad Ali (the greatest, because he told us so!). Thanks for the memories guys, RIP MMH & MA ❤
He spoiled alot and his power was unremarkable. With that said he was a very cerebral fighter. Unfortunately for me he’ll be under appreciated for the near future at least, largely because he refused to play the role that white audiences prefer Black American fighters to play.
@@larrysellers7891 How i view Ward has nothing to do with anyone's colour. You can either point out his ills, or you can't. With Ward, you very much can.
Loved both of these fighters. The list of fighters on Carl Froch's record is top class. He dodged nobody. However, Ward proved on the night that he's No. 1. Top dog. He put on a master class
Ward is right, Froch was good, but Ward was GREAT…. You will never hear Ward say how good he is, but you always hear Froch say how “great” he was…. Ward did the talking with his fists, Froch got smoked
Ward had the ability to nullify any opponents best attributes. He was poetry in motion and his early retirement deprived the boxing purist's of maybe another 10+ bouts.
Definitely all-time great skills and got out with his wits and his winnings intact. I think he lost the first fight to Kovalev and would have liked to see him against Calzaghe or even Canelo just to solidify his reign. Accomplishment-wise, he's nowhere near a Ray Leonard or Pacquiao . Definitely HOF caliber though. Still, better to retire undefeated and healthy than to stay too long.
That was pure class, he was dropping life philosophies that were as much advice to any of us as it was to Froch. Ward is insanely under-appreciated for what he achieved.
@@work89 yeah he only had one hand he used boxing IQ slowing down the pace at key times and holding to win the fight genuinely the better boxer of the two But let's keep in mind on two of the judges scorecards Ward only one by two points let's not completely rewrite history here
Agreed as a Brit. Ward schooled Froch. Should have been a lot more on the score cards and I think if they rematched Ward would have known enough to get the KO inside 7 rounds
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m even with two hands I don't think Ward would have got the Ko he would have to take risk and I don't think you'll do that against Carl Froch someone who can absorb a lot of punishment and come on strong in the later rounds of a fight basically Ward would have been too intelligent to take the necessary risks
I remember this fight it devastated carl froch and ward was just too good moved so well one of the most one sided fights av ever seen but i am a fan of carl froch and as a true champion does he didnt let it stop him he rose again and fought a hard fighter dont think av ever seen carl froch in an easy fight except again that canadian guy who was champion name escapes me just now but my memory is terrible for that tjese days names and such yes carl realised he couldnt beat andre ward he was exceptional
Ward is a talent and a gentleman, I ended up sat next to him, lexon Lewis and duke McKenzie for a Chris eubank jr fight had a for way chin wag, was awesome then ward stayed on and took some photos with my boy (was nice of him)
Andre Ward great fighter but who sits back and says wow remember that Andre Ward fight? Nobody haha. Froch on the other hand was involved in some fantastic fights, earned a lot of money and got out at the right time.
He was more one for the purists of the craft. Looked to spoil too much for my liking on the inside but that was how Virgil Hunter taught him to fight. Froch was one of the great levellers in the sport for me. In that he could beat people that were better boxers. That’s what made his fights exciting.
Great fighter for sure. Couldn't lace Calzaghe or Ward's boots. Ward beat him with one hand and one of their mutual victims Kessler even admitted it. Froch was nowhere near that level. He was champ in a very, very weak era with only one dominant dude. Would have been fun to see him get schooled by Calzaghe but alas he wanted to earn more against better and more experienced dudes
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m. Plus, if JC had fought Froch, Frochies career would’ve been sent on another path. Joe would just beat him no matter how many times they fought.
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m Did you just call the Froch era, weak? Come again? You only need to see the fighters he fought to know how hilarious your comment is. Ward never beat Froch with one hand either. You only need to watch the fight to see how much of a lie that is.
Ward beat froch fair and square, but ward couldn’t wait for the bell to go at the end of the 12th… Froch has got more bottle and heart than anyone that I’ve seen in the super middle weight D.
This was a good fight. Never seen Froch schooled so comprehensively although near the end, froch was kinda coming on strong, but by then it was too late.... Outfought Out THOUGHT Dealt with.
Never seen this before. To be fair Froch acts like a proper professional. I dunno you gotta respect Froch he has bundles of class and a great record. Andre Ward never lost a boxing match since the age of 12, hes an exceptional boxer.
Haven’t seen it in a couple of years but I seem to recall Ward made Froch look a bit silly in this face off & then did the same in the ring… I quite like Froch now I think he gives his honest opinion which is generally informed, but he did used to have a reputation of being a bit of a tool as a fighter & during his early punditry days…
These are both really good guys. Froch uses bravado to sell his fights and Ward doesn't. I identify more with Ward's personality but the things Froch said are not atypical for fighters, and he was no slouch, for sure.
I agree with what most of Ward says and he is certainly more intelligent than most boxers. If you are a boxing purist you would enjoy seeing him fight however if you want excitement and a real fight you'd choose Froch every day of the week.
Froch was a decent fighter but the likes of Ward & Calzaghe where in a different league, skilled technicians with great chins that will always beat tough fighters like Froch & Kessler whom both are much more limited in there abilities...
Froch fought 1 world class fighter in ward and lost and one really good fighter in Kessler and it was 1-1. He’s nowhere near the greats. One of boxing greatest disrespects is that he’s even mention on the same day as calzaghe
@@garydonaldson5573 they didn't fight as both were undefeated champions. Froch was a great fighter but he couldn't lace Calzaghe or Ward's gloves. The mindset for Froch was always overreaching which he did successfully which is why he loves to talk about them. He did way better than his skill level should have but his era was also a massively weak one. His best wins weren't exactly all that impressive. Same could be said for Calzaghe but then again he still beat Jones Jr and Hopkins which Froch would never have managed even at the age they were
Rather watch froch fight than ward but i do respect the guy but he should have been more active n had more than 33 fights n he did lose the first to kovalev
Ward does not get enough credit he was some fighter
Retired early and a couple of times he was inactive but one of the bests of my generation
Was lucky to meet Ward last weekend. Dude is as humble and kind as can be
Ward absolutely schooled Froch.
Judges didn't think so
@@jamestaylor841 Judges aren't reliable, and they got the result right. Ward completely outboxed Froch.
Froch could get schooled all day and still get a ko win. Point is Ward was tougher, rougher and out muscled him, as well as being more clever, and Froch didn't expect that. Froch probably won one round and if he'd fought that round every round, he'd have gassed out by half way.
@@dannyneville1310 nah froch won atleat 4 rounds and was competitive. Ward is just unbelievable
Froch is a fucking clown
How come we haven’t seen any pictures of him at the edge of the earth, the cabbage
The only person Carl didn’t have a rematch with. He knew what time it was with Ward. Ward was special.
He was a great fighter but his resume hasn’t aged great - Carl is his best win. He should’ve lost to Kovalev first time round.
@@TC8787-yq7og2x National champion, Gold medalist, two division champ, 10 defenses. Went out when he knew it was time. I gotta be honest, that's a pretty damn good resume.
@@jerryhelloNo that's his record. Resume is different 🙄
Beat B-level fighters.@@jerryhello
Should have rematched froch in England
The verbal sparring was even more of a mismatch than the actual fight.
Carl still has sleepless nights about ward 😂😂
It was a lesson
Ward kept ducking the rematch though, didn’t he.
@@anthhub luckily for froch, anyone who thinks froch could beat ward is insane
Froch was very good, Ward the best of his generation by a mile, both deserve credit 🤷
@@anthhubthe first fight proved there was absolutely no reason for a rematch
Andre Ward hasn’t lost a fight since he was 13 years old and remained undefeated for the entirety of his career… Badass
Got beat first fight vs kovalev
@@decnaseby9261 Not on the recordbooks though
@@94462 Kov won that
Fought a lot of B-level guys, though. No one ever cared about Ward - and that's a big part of the reason why.
@@94462 😂😂😂 but in reality he lost. Aso FM lost vs Corales and vs De La Hoya.
Fair play I had no idea Andre Ward was such an intelligent and insightful bloke. Got into boxing after his time. That last part is a lesson to all young fighters: you’ve got one body, one brain. Fight smart and look after them, especially in sparring!
No pushing and pulling here!
Anyone can have a little push.. a little push and a pull about.
Pull abarrrt.
But he fought Infront of 80,000 at Wembley
Just beat me to it
how many? and where?
Did he? When did this happen? He can’t have mentioned it before
Yeah? But have u? U can see how he thinks he's he's best yet his subtle facials tell u he doesn't believe
Ward beat him
Carl froch can’t speak for 30 seconds without mentioning himself, absolute narcissist 😂
Ward has to be one of the most underrated boxers ever imo. A strong minded, tenacious, super smart operator, who should’ve had a longer & higher profile spell at the top of the sport.
Calzaghe bivol beterbiev smoke him
He's disliked because he was boring and very very dirty
@@Rockymarciono731nah, not at all
He couldnt go for longer, beterbiev is his next mandatory
Its the right moment to retire
So off. He is overrated.
Oh man he read Froch's pedigree! 🤣🤣🤣
Looks like poor old Froch had a dose of the sniffles again
😂😂😂😂
Colombian dust
Ward speaks well. He saves his low blows for the ring.
I like this Andre Ward OG
Andre Ward is 5th on my list of all time boxers . He was something special
You factually don't know any of the great fighters from history saying that. Ward is not a great fighter and shouldn't be anywhere near the HOF. His resume is too weak to be there. He isn't in the top 1,000.
However, just for fun, could you please give me the rest of your top 5?
@@seablock 1 . Smoking Joe Frazier
2. Sugar Ray Robinson 3. Sonny Liston 4. Robert Durán . But u seem completely correct , I don’t know any great fighters from history by saying that . Ward was a phenomenal fighter , hasn't lost a fight since he was 14 . Also this is not for “fun” , this is my personal opinion . To sit there and criticise someone you know nothing about is unnecessary and uncalled for . I’m not here to dispute . It’s just the way I feel
@@seablock just the man's opinion, by the looks of it he knows a few of the great fighter from history 🤭
Just for fun, My Top 5 As Follows:
Marvelous Marvin Hagler. (best MW I have ever seen).
Manny Pacquiao (prob the best ever!).
Mike Tyson. (force of nature).
Roberto Duran. (now he was something special).
Muhammad Ali (the greatest, because he told us so!).
Thanks for the memories guys, RIP MMH & MA ❤
He spoiled alot and his power was unremarkable. With that said he was a very cerebral fighter. Unfortunately for me he’ll be under appreciated for the near future at least, largely because he refused to play the role that white audiences prefer Black American fighters to play.
@@larrysellers7891 How i view Ward has nothing to do with anyone's colour. You can either point out his ills, or you can't. With Ward, you very much can.
Andre Ward, humble legend, amazing boxer.
I guarantee Carl’s inner clean up system has erased this from his memory bank. . . Sat there like a school kid in the presence of an adult.
Love that
I’m a froch fan but these comments are killing me 😅
Froch vs Nigel Benn would have been fun.
@@ms16648 still would have been fun.
Benn would have smoked Froch double quick
if he was on the juice like he was in the McClelland fight maybe - @@philhaynes5969
@@philhaynes5969 I think froch would have lasted a bit longer than Barkley, but I could just see Benn speed and power overwhelming him pretty quickly.
Froch beats benn all day
"Ward stinks the venue out again."
Thats why Ward is one of the goats
He just isn't 😂 he's a very good modern day fighter but GOAT is a step too far.
LOL ...GOAT. Far from it. Far from it.
GOAT 😂 HOF for sure but chill
Yea right😂
He's lucky he didn't have to fight Calzaghe else his career would have looked a lot different
Ward so underrated it's unreal watch his documentary top
It's about time Carl tasted some humble pie.
Nah he’s sound are you a thick Yank ?
Ward first ever intelligent boxer. Such a fantastic person.
Wow. All-around GOAT. 📠
Loved both of these fighters. The list of fighters on Carl Froch's record is top class. He dodged nobody. However, Ward proved on the night that he's No. 1. Top dog. He put on a master class
...and Froch is still banging on!
I know Ward as a fighter but what a eloquent speaker who talks a lot of sense this man is. Even more respect now 👊🏻
I loved this Ward is a class act yes he schooled froch in more ways than one.
Ward is right, Froch was good, but Ward was GREAT….
You will never hear Ward say how good he is, but you always hear Froch say how “great” he was….
Ward did the talking with his fists, Froch got smoked
Didn't Ward have GOD on his shorts😂
A good articulate speaker is someone you don't wanna do verbal combat with.
Ward had the ability to nullify any opponents best attributes. He was poetry in motion and his early retirement deprived the boxing purist's of maybe another 10+ bouts.
Damn the first time i listen to Ward! 👏🏻
I still say peak time Calzaghe outboxes peak time Ward.
NAW
Ward was on another level....
Ward was my favourite boxer but respect due to Froch. He was still a great boxer. I hate when fans are dismissive of fighters.
Ward is an all time great
Definitely all-time great skills and got out with his wits and his winnings intact. I think he lost the first fight to Kovalev and would have liked to see him against Calzaghe or even Canelo just to solidify his reign. Accomplishment-wise, he's nowhere near a Ray Leonard or Pacquiao . Definitely HOF caliber though. Still, better to retire undefeated and healthy than to stay too long.
That was pure class, he was dropping life philosophies that were as much advice to any of us as it was to Froch. Ward is insanely under-appreciated for what he achieved.
Ward is the definition of boxing!
He dont play
Give over ! Kobalev beat him twice & you know it !
Ward is so well spoken, its rare but great when a high level athlete can articulate themselves well.
And he was never a big smack talker eh? Loved him
Damn, that was awesome.
Ward the consummate professional absolutely had Carl in knots.
The consummate head butter.
@@AlTarif bitter little muppet
Ward beat Frochs ass
He won convincingly but he didn't destroy him
@@RickTheBoss98
Ward played with Frotch.
@@work89 yeah he only had one hand he used boxing IQ slowing down the pace at key times and holding to win the fight genuinely the better boxer of the two
But let's keep in mind on two of the judges scorecards Ward only one by two points let's not completely rewrite history here
Agreed as a Brit. Ward schooled Froch. Should have been a lot more on the score cards and I think if they rematched Ward would have known enough to get the KO inside 7 rounds
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m even with two hands I don't think Ward would have got the Ko he would have to take risk and I don't think you'll do that against Carl Froch someone who can absorb a lot of punishment and come on strong in the later rounds of a fight basically Ward would have been too intelligent to take the necessary risks
The one thing that Ward had that I haven’t seen any other fighter possess was subtlety. You can’t teach that shit! 💪🏻💪🏻
@@RasT108haha my bad 🙌🏻
@@machoboyrandyandsavage3439Subtle edit. 😅
he was the master at the waiting game one of the best accurate counter punchers ever. cool calm smart operator 👌
@@RasT108thank you 🙌🏻
What do you mean?
Froch silenced like a little lamb
I remember this fight it devastated carl froch and ward was just too good moved so well one of the most one sided fights av ever seen but i am a fan of carl froch and as a true champion does he didnt let it stop him he rose again and fought a hard fighter dont think av ever seen carl froch in an easy fight except again that canadian guy who was champion name escapes me just now but my memory is terrible for that tjese days names and such yes carl realised he couldnt beat andre ward he was exceptional
"Any man can be knocked out."
I'm guessing carl is the exception to the rule.
Cocain is a hell of a drug
Carl marinating in his narcissism
😅
0:11 - 0:18, Jim smiled so hard after Ward said, “Jim Gray is narrating this, not you. Not Carl Froch 😂😂😂. Jim was siding with Andre so hard here 🤣
Ward was like a good Mayweather
Andre Ward is one of the most intelligent fighters to ever lace up gloves,and one of the best fighters of all time.
The last part was 100000%
2 good fighters
Before Froch could say did you do it in front of 80 thousand at Wembley 🤣🤣🤣
Is this old clip or are they both coming out of retirement?
Ward is a talent and a gentleman, I ended up sat next to him, lexon Lewis and duke McKenzie for a Chris eubank jr fight had a for way chin wag, was awesome then ward stayed on and took some photos with my boy (was nice of him)
SPOKEN LIJE A REAL CHAMP 👊🥊🏴
Would have loved to see Andre Ward vs Roy jones jr
Andre Ward great fighter but who sits back and says wow remember that Andre Ward fight? Nobody haha. Froch on the other hand was involved in some fantastic fights, earned a lot of money and got out at the right time.
Sergey Kovalev...twice. when Kovalev was at the top of his game, a champion and undefeated. None of Froch's opponents were at the level of Kovalev.
@@jonathanbriones3235 controversial decision on the first fight IMO Jon. Kovalev aside who else ?
He was more one for the purists of the craft. Looked to spoil too much for my liking on the inside but that was how Virgil Hunter taught him to fight.
Froch was one of the great levellers in the sport for me. In that he could beat people that were better boxers. That’s what made his fights exciting.
@@larrysellers7891 as I said great fighter but I’m not his biggest fan. Calzaghe the best super middleweight 👊🏻
Froch is a legend. Damn good fighter.
Great fighter for sure. Couldn't lace Calzaghe or Ward's boots. Ward beat him with one hand and one of their mutual victims Kessler even admitted it. Froch was nowhere near that level. He was champ in a very, very weak era with only one dominant dude. Would have been fun to see him get schooled by Calzaghe but alas he wanted to earn more against better and more experienced dudes
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m😂😂😂
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m. Plus, if JC had fought Froch, Frochies career would’ve been sent on another path. Joe would just beat him no matter how many times they fought.
Calzaghe was a bum, and Froch was a bit better. Ward was not ATG material - Toney (a true ATG) would have killed him. @@philgibson2913
@@user-vg4ek6bb3m Did you just call the Froch era, weak? Come again? You only need to see the fighters he fought to know how hilarious your comment is.
Ward never beat Froch with one hand either. You only need to watch the fight to see how much of a lie that is.
Carl Froch talks way too much for a guy that was absolutely schooled by Ward. Lost every second of every round. Embarrassing
Absolutely schooled froch
classy versus unclassy right there, schooled carl froch.
Ward beat froch fair and square, but ward couldn’t wait for the bell to go at the end of the 12th… Froch has got more bottle and heart than anyone that I’ve seen in the super middle weight D.
"Did i mention I'm in the hall of fame?"
This was a good fight. Never seen Froch schooled so comprehensively although near the end, froch was kinda coming on strong, but by then it was too late....
Outfought
Out THOUGHT
Dealt with.
Never seen this before. To be fair Froch acts like a proper professional. I dunno you gotta respect Froch he has bundles of class and a great record. Andre Ward never lost a boxing match since the age of 12, hes an exceptional boxer.
Haven’t seen it in a couple of years but I seem to recall Ward made Froch look a bit silly in this face off & then did the same in the ring… I quite like Froch now I think he gives his honest opinion which is generally informed, but he did used to have a reputation of being a bit of a tool as a fighter & during his early punditry days…
Ward lost that first fight to Kovalev.
Dominated Froch with a broken hand. Levels.
Froch could do with watching this back. This monologue sums he up perfectly and he's not different on his channel.
These are both really good guys. Froch uses bravado to sell his fights and Ward doesn't. I identify more with Ward's personality but the things Froch said are not atypical for fighters, and he was no slouch, for sure.
Sniffy McSniff Sniff.
I’m sure you’d sniff if you’d had your nose broken numerous times too
Ward owned Froch inside the ring and outside, completely took apart a really solid fighter like Froch shows how good Ward was
At the end of the day which fights are better to watch Frochs or Wards? Froch wins without winning.
100% Much more entertaining. Ward was actually a dirty fighter that got boring points victorys. Them damn American fanboys though love boring fights 😅
@@PhaRoaH87 I think Froch said it himself " How often do you go back and watch an Andre Ward fight." Lol.
A free therapy session from Ward. Carl should be thanking him.
Can’t believe I found a Carl crotch video where he doesn’t talk about selling 80,000 at Wembley
Schooled him there and in the ring!
Looks like Ward schooled him in there ring and out there ring
Ward humbled Froch verbally AND physically.
Ward was special
Schooled inside and outside the ring
is true froch still to that
Ward was the best headbutt in the devision 😮 dirty fighter
Calzaghe schooled Kessler and froch still think he would have beat him
I agree with what most of Ward says and he is certainly more intelligent than most boxers. If you are a boxing purist you would enjoy seeing him fight however if you want excitement and a real fight you'd choose Froch every day of the week.
Ward completely dominated frock during that faceOff and in the actual fight.
Carl was 5/10 if that in his hay day 😂😂 definitely improved since then, looks wise
Plasruc surgery plus he had a nose job
Humbling Froch is an impossible task - Wembley....
Froch was a decent fighter but the likes of Ward & Calzaghe where in a different league, skilled technicians with great chins that will always beat tough fighters like Froch & Kessler whom both are much more limited in there abilities...
Froch fought 1 world class fighter in ward and lost and one really good fighter in Kessler and it was 1-1. He’s nowhere near the greats. One of boxing greatest disrespects is that he’s even mention on the same day as calzaghe
I like Carl but he was out of his depth in this face off, and in the fight. No shame in it because Ward was special
Ward was class and a class above froch for sure
This bul swear he’s LL COOL DRE😂😂😂He’s always prepared before he speaks in front of the camera 🤣🤣 Lick-emLips Cool Dre *Pause* 😂NO Diddy
Ward was a superb boxer . He didnt had the star power to draw casuals , but skills ... The man was a boss ! Shakur is having the same problem !
Isn’t Froch a 4 time WC ,
Enough to call yourself a legend
3 time champ. He took 2 belts off kessler. Damn good fighter.
@@ThehulkGreen
3 time
Yeah not the slickest, but was a fighter
@@ThehulkGreen A prime Kessler lost to Joe. Then he beat Froch and Froch beat him when he was past it
He did fight in front of 80,000 people lol
Ward and Calzaghe is the fight we never got sadly. These guys like Froch and Kessler were always second tier to the real World Level
They did fight pmsl
@@garydonaldson5573 Calazage vs ward never happend lol
@@garydonaldson5573Calzaghe did not fight Ward, mate.
@@garydonaldson5573 they didn't fight as both were undefeated champions. Froch was a great fighter but he couldn't lace Calzaghe or Ward's gloves. The mindset for Froch was always overreaching which he did successfully which is why he loves to talk about them. He did way better than his skill level should have but his era was also a massively weak one. His best wins weren't exactly all that impressive. Same could be said for Calzaghe but then again he still beat Jones Jr and Hopkins which Froch would never have managed even at the age they were
Froch was a serious overachiever
Rather watch froch fight than ward but i do respect the guy but he should have been more active n had more than 33 fights n he did lose the first to kovalev