Yeah because people like you keep naming excuses for NRS and will buy the game just because the graphics. Other communities will leave when the game sucks and force change at the studios just like Tekken and SF communities have. But not the NRS boys. 😂😂
Yeah people nearly invaded nrs to get this game out and claim mk11 was the worst ever only to get this version and cry about how mk11 was better. Smh it began horrible I must say though
Evo numbers realistically means nothing. UNIST 2 got more evo players but you deadass get matches faster with more variety in MKX IDK why casuals who not poppin' out even care about that the important part can you play it without being in discord begging for sets
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame that's funny cause I still play guilty gear xrd rev2 and find players to play GranBlue had more as well and it's also full of players. Mk1 is trash get over it
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlameEXCUSE ME???? in THIS particular case EVO entrants numbers do mean a lot YES! Year 1, a brand new TRIPLE-A game btw, from a franchise that has solidified itself for over 30 YEARS! With the element of legacy on its side compared to all those other franchises and you tryna say those numbers don't matter! nahhh MK1 is ass...
Y’all miss mk11 until you hop on and fight slight gas kabal upgraded Jacqui skywalker fujin & fight bums that fish for KBs especially the D2 KB. get a hard knockdown and get mixed by the wake up system. Don’t get me started on the combo potential. I’ll stay on mk1 and trust the process.
People complained that MK11 was too defensive and that was because MKX was too offensive. MK1 is now too Offensive but the offense is brain dead and anyone can do it.. There’s a happy medium somewhere, NRS just needs time to find it.
Bruh…the same guys who were bashing mk11 for being too defensive are now bashing mk1 for not being defensive enough. At one point, these “pros” like ninja were literally saying mk11 was a scrub game because of all the defensive options you had. It’s crazy how quick things have changed and everybody forgot. Oh, but Ninja says something and it’s holy gospel because he’s good at the game lol 🐑 🐑 🐑. Only reason I’m pressed is cause I was saying mk11 was more fun since day 1 and I was getting shit on because pros were saying it was scrubby so if you said you like mk11, the sheep would call you a scrub because the “pros” say it’s a scrub game. But NOW, Ninja says mk11 is better than mk1 and everybody glazing…..this community just runs with whatever the “pros” say. Not a single original thought or opinion. It’s not even the “pros” fault, it’s just their opinion. But the stupid ass sheep take opinions from the “pros” they idolize as fact and will shit on you if you don’t agree with the opinions they copy and pasted from their favorite “pros”.
This is fair but you also have to be realistic nobody knew how MK1 year one was going to be like and I love MK11 because of all the stuff you can do and the defensive options plus the Crypt. By all means you're not wrong people did have bad takes on MK11 no doubt about it but MK1 is way worse than anybody could have imagined. People will miss what they didn't like because it's better than what they have now.
The big problem with NRS is they can make a great game , and instead of building upon it/making the next one better they completely scrap it and make the next entry completely different every single time.
@@artofgarduno congratulations they wasted a full year of said lifespan. Picking up the pieces of an incomplete game full of bugs and glitches missing BASIC game modes😂 Then once they DO give it to you the majority of the fools in the community rejoice as if it's new 😂 This game is far along than you think. Why do you think we're getting drip fed DLC with the Kameo spaced in-between? Ed Boon told you "4 years" but look what they've done? Released half assed game and slow drip DLC and patches to stretch for the span 4 years.... They're playing y'all 😂
Recency Bias.... Ppl bitched about MK11 the same.... Its boring.. Its too restrictive.. Personally i think MK1 is way better them 11.. Its more flexible and has more room for creativity.. At the highest level its less creative because everyone trying to min max.. And i do agree another universal defensive option could be great for the game
I have said thos to many friends, it's IJ3! Look at how the characters are designed, look at the selection screen in both this and IJ2. Also, separate but I am a casual. I just love the combo creativity and variety. I use Sub/Goro, and it's been fun because I don't expect to be upset losing and I'll be happy winning if I do. Since MKX, I've been in love with combos and MK11 was linear with the combos.
I don’t want to sound like a glazer but honestly I enjoy the game a lot, I love the kameo system. It forces me to stay on my toes and be up to date and knowledgeable of not only the main fighting characters but the benefits as well as the downsides the kameos bring to that character. I feel like it’s forcing a close of the skill gap because unless you feel like getting your ass beat, you have to learn the game in depth. You have to know character mismatches, you have to know frame data, it’s no longer a matter of just learning which 3-5 move sets to look out for and I love that challenge
I’ve been playing Liu Kang forever and I remember when the beta dropped and I tried him I was like wtf is this bro. He just felt so off. After coming from MKX/MK11 I was disappointed. I play him now only because I love the character smh.🤦🏾♂️
I feel like if MK1 storyline stuck with the old generation fighters like great Kung Lao and kept it 1v1, the game would’ve been a hit because it would be characters we heard of but never played before and would be cool to see how MK started. I feel like some characters in this game get away with a lot and the kameo do more work than the actual main character and the combos get boring. So I definitely understand you and ninjakilla because MK1 ruined Liu kang low key lol
Mk11 was not that fun like i dont get it. You could learn a mk11 char in 5 minutes and there were hardly any variation in how you played a character. Even once they opened kustoms. There was always a best in slot loadout. Breakway was awful. Many chars had bad movement. Getting 30% off throw krushing blow with 0 execution required, 50% off mashing uppercut. Flawless block reversal was too strong. I guess we just we forgot about all these things
It's funny hearing Ninja say WB tries to appeal to the casual scene because a lot of casuals feel the opposite lol. I guess you really can't please everybody
Exactly. This game is the result of them getting tired of all the complaining and moaning from the community and rushing tf out it. They gave us an inferior product that's raking twice the money between the expansion and micro transactions. They gave us less and demanding double and it's because people couldn't see what we really had with MK11.
Ninja is speaking about casuals/pros strictly from a competitive standpoint. He’s not talking about single-player modes and content, which we know casuals care more about.
I've said this before. If we did got Injustice 3 right after Mortal Kombat 11, we would have to wait 6 more years for another mortal kombat game. Which probably would not release up until the year 2027 or 2028.
Crazy how Everytime I hear ppl talk about nrs communication it literally sounds like being in a emotionally abusive relationship 😂 and I agree with everything that was said
INSANE when ppl say if someone doesn’t like the game, s/he needs to get better. That’s only true for SOME ppl! You can be good and not enjoy kameos! It’s about gameplay. Some players won’t touch a game if their fave’ characters don’t return for a sequel. If you know what you like about a game series and then a sequel doesn’t have what you want and the new features aren’t interesting, then that’s just a matter of tastes.
Mk11 discouraged offense a lot with how busted the wake-up and break away system was, true. I just happily pick that problem over the braindead offense in MK1
It discouraged offense by keeping it in check with flawless block and roll wake ups. It was always minimum risk max reward meanwhile MK1 is the same meta but on straight roids.
@@Filterdeez it genuinely had the most boring gameplay of any fighter I ever played, the gameplay lacked so much depth it just became a strike throw meta.
@@louis550 yeah, you rely on unblockable/low cameo combos to land a hit, dont ya? Or do you rely on kameos keeping you safe when you do dumb, unsafe moves, huh? Yall are the only types of players that think mk11 was boring. Bet you couldn't even FBA in 11🤣
I agree..mk11 needed another update. The game just had bugs that could easily be fixed before they abandoned it. I also thought after the first few patches of mk11 the game was actually okay
Also the thing that Ninja liked the most was Flawless Blocking because he was so good at it that he could beat most players just by abusing the Flawless Block defense option.
I was good at it too but you can’t abuse it cuz your opponent can bait you to get blown up, that’s just more of a in match thing more so than the mechanic itself
That mechanic is needed in mk1 the no defense game flawless block not giving you plus frames is ass SF6 defense shits on MK MVC collection full of ancient games have better defense and make more sense than MK1
I still think MK11 is more flawed than M1K. I revisit MK11 every now & then & people say you have more options in that game but I just don’t see it. In that game the variations were just as limited as kameos in M1K (which I think people are wrong about as a Havik main I’ve found lots of uses for different kameos) but in MK11 you were forced to use certain loadouts just as people say you’re forced to use certain characters/kameos in M1K. Another thing is that the mechanics in MK11 just weren’t balanced at all. Breakaway & krushing blows are some of the most biased systems ever put in a MK game. Your character either barely got to get damage because of breakaway or krushing blows being so specific & useless. Free meter is also another thing that made the game a lot more dumbed down including with the wakeup system. People treat MK11 like it had no problems & that M1K is a mess compared to it but both games have their issues. Both games played to scrubs in different ways so I don’t think the skill gap point really makes sense. I think it’s just a bias towards MK11. Which don’t get me wrong MK11 was a good game but it still required a lot of work to be amazing. I just wish people would stop doing this with every MK game. They say the new one is complete trash, takes no skill, etc. when the same things were said about the previous game but now that game is praised. I’m also saying this all as a person that had 1,200 hours on MK11 like I still think it’s a good game. It I can never say it’s my favorite.
This video speaks volumes. It was very interesting to see NK's take on the current situation with MK. I have been forcing myself to play it because it is the latest. I enjoy the hype and I was quite disappointed with the story of chaos reigns. I am disappointed with the gameplay. I am tempted to go back to MK 11 again. I keep saying that and keep going back-and-forth.
23:30 ive always said that ash in mk11 was cancelled for joker because of sonicfox. Hes said joker is a fav of his multiple times, he had a play style sonic was -easily- able to abuse, and literally no one asked for joker, like sonic was prolly the only human being asking for the joker in mk11
Nah he not being salty… he just telling facts… you can’t tell if a player is a good player because of the kameo system… kameo system has really ruined this game and makes it worse…
17:20 Right here is where Ninjakilla's starting to be full of shit. There WERE carried players in 11, specifically Jade, Cetrion, Shiva, Robocop, Scorpion, Kabal, and Jacqui. How do I know this? I PLAYED 3/7 THAT I JUST LISTED AND GOT ALOT OF WINS WITH THEM. I WAS CARRIED.
I swear I felt like I was living on an island to myself for years when saying MK 11 is actually a fun game for people who love defensive fighters. I always felt like I had a chance when playing MK 11, whereas the way kameos are presented here alongside certain characters having so many save strings alongside particular kameos just makes MK 1 struggle in the fun department for me. It's been a long time that I've played a MK game for about 30 minutes every couple of weeks and feel like I've gotten my fill of it with not burning interest the next day to play so more.
At this point I think they need to make a horror fighting game if they can get the licensing situated. Start fresh but bring back Freddy, Jason, and Leatherface from MK9 and X. Add Michael Myers and others but just make a new game that isn’t MK or Injustice.
The thing we have to ask ourselves is, what does "broken" mean to us? MK11 added new characters but other than a few cases like Sheeva Stomp nerf, I don't recall anywhere near the complaints that we get when new characters/kameos are added in MK1. If I had to place the fault somewhere I think it all goes back to the kameo system. The moment you add a new kameo, suddenly every single fighter has to potentially be rebalanced to play fairly w/ this new kameo whereas when a new fighter is added, everyone just needs to lab that one fighter to understand their tech and how to counter it. I do think adding a 1v1 mode would be easier than adding a 2v2 mode since it would mainly involve enhancing everyone's moveset to be an able fighter on their own w/o the use of kameos. Once that's fully fleshed out, THEN we can start considering the possibility of a 2v2 mode. In any case, I think over the next year, we are mostly going to see a repeat of year 1 when it comes to the impact of adding new fighters and kameos. Everyone will abuse the meta and those of us who continue to stick w the game will have no choice but to learn to deal w it or join the meta abusers. I will be part of the former. I am looking forward to the future MK1 but am in no way expecting them to fix the main problems of the game anytime soon. Either way I'll continue playing it alongside Tekken 8 as I do find it fun as well.
I've been saying a lot of this since the game dropped and i ALWAYS got shit on for it. Even made a video like 2 months in about the gameplay not being fun long term. Good to see other people openly agree now.
Mk11 is the only mk i could play, win 10x in a row and actually be mad. But ninja hold on… in your most recent mk11 vid vs sikk you said “ Bro why did i even download this game! “ in a rage mode lol. So which one is it? Mk11 was so damn dry and boring that i had to force myself to watch pro comp or even play. I literally don’t see how yall can play mk11 fr, im speaking for myself so it’s my opinion but bruh.
@likenoother6561 cus its better and has more stuff to do, unlike mk1, it's boring literally nothing to do, and it's already also no one is talking about the new update that shows mk1 is dead mk11 beat it already even ninja agrees
@@Leatherface5002 ninja is one person with an opinion, his is no more important than Sonic or the Chile twins and ninja is my favorite Pro in the FGC. So to challenge you what more is it to do in mk11 than mk1? Because at least with invasion it’s an actual replay value unlike krypt which i myself like. The same hold your hand argument Lou tried to make is the same argument that can be made for mk11. Especially the argument of being punished for doing the right thing which is 10x worse in mk11 brake aways.
@@ricardo_islam314 mk1 dyed really quick tho unlike mk11 no one is talking about the new DLC of mk1 but mk11 aftermath everyone talked about it that game didn't dye fast but mk1 already died even it recently came out also explain evo mk1 did horrible unlike mk11 i remember everyone was playing mk11 when it came out so this shows mk11 destroyed mk1
@@Leatherface5002 "MK1 already died" What a dumb quote... Both me and you know that this is not truth, just enter in a online match in MK11 and MK1, then see who find an oponent faster. "Oh but the steam numbers are low", let's remmember that the reason they were was the causal player that rarely entered the game, and Yes, this was a bad point for MK1, but now the ToT are back so... May this change, undeniably the competitive players show way more activity there then in MK11, got it? The games just have a different playerbase... What shouldn't happen, but ever happen in MK games ufortunaly.
MK11 was one of the worst fighting games I've ever played. People only lasted so long on that game because of hope. After 5 years there weren't any more hope left in the tank for MK1.
Such a good conversation. A breath of fresh air compared to the positive toxicity echochamber that is twitter. Nice to hear real players discussing real issues in Mortal Kombat 1.
Because of all the complaining and disrespect, NRS gave us this product. The community being entitled and rude with the criticism is what got us a rushed, inferior product while bonking us over the head for even more bread. This is like ordering food, complaining and then chewing out the chef and wait staff and getting surprised your food came back from the kitchen with a loogie in it. The criticism was valid to a degree but the way it was communicated literally pissed off NRS and they went postal.
In regard to MK1 being Injustice 3, I never thought of it that MK1 was literally an MK game built upon an Injustice skeleton that they had to scrap, but it makes sense. I always thought MK1 was just a reskinned MK11 with the camera pushed back and the assist feature from MK11 towers. Either way, when Boon retires or does another AMA I truly hope he does a tell all about the development of MK1 and what went on behind the scenes.
Kameo system allows for too much bs imo. Chip on block, making anything safe, unblockable setups, and more. And then we have a lack of defensive options to tackle these problems. Mk11 was more boring combo wise, but from a technical standpoint it was better as a fighting game competitively. There is a ton of cheese within mk1
Ninja speaking a lot of facts here. Braindead offense against lack of defensive options creates a huge problem. MK1 year 1 was complete ass overall and MK11 year 1 in comparison does not even seem that bad, not to mention the amount of defensive options are were so much a part of the issue. What we need is a balance of defensive options
Mk1 is a good game . In this game literally you can use any character and make it work with a kameo . Random example Baraka that if you try to use it in mk11 is just useless (almost) MK11 was in certain situations stvpid because you had problems with situations to punish or getting out the corner with wake ups sistem. The problem here is the game is balanced right now and have more players competing in tournaments.
I met Big Ninjakilla at final kombat in toronto. I was wearing a Liu Kang T shirt and got to take a pic w/ him but so sad he only got to use Liu for one round... What a joke....
Respectfully, this was so hard for me to watch lol. I hate MK 11, id much rather play MK 1 than MK 11. Not to say MK 1 is the best game because I think it’s 2nd to last in NRS games of all time, I’m so glad we are done with MK 11
I prefer MK1 because it fits more my gameplay style (Really, i never managed to make one entire kombo with MK11, and the only character i played well was Noob), now in MK1, with much less hours of gameplay i already know how to play with 3 characters, and the gameplay it's much more appealing for me honestly. Now with the ToT, all the problems that made me stay far from the game from weeks and weeks are basically solved, this is kinda what i played the most on MK11. Also, with this, MK1 is kinda equal to MK11 in off-line content, since the Krypt is just a "extra" and not a true entire game-mode, aside from this, MK11 krypt obviously was the best and stomps the invasion (not like this is hard), but i never played it enough to miss honestly... I don't like grinding...
@@tyrantking222you explaining your preferences in MK1 literally tells the story. Minimum risk and max reward and that's not a bad thing but just rather truth. Not everybody wants to grind and develop their characters and gameplay etc. You have people that want a game they can pick up and just start going crazy out the gate.
So the opinion of one person is enough for you so say nothing else matters? That’s delusional on so many levels bro lol Use your own brain and stop glazing.
@@PewPewShootEmUp it’s applies to anyone above casual level , pros opinions gives a good baseline to the topic . Casuals don’t see the game the way higher level /competitive players do .
Yeah people gonna have their disagreements but def more than anything else people weren’t wondering if MK11 would die by year 2, i think that’s pretty undeniable at the least, but more than him saying, he said a lot of the top players feel this way which shocked me the most
The only part I don’t agree with when ninja said this is the worst LIUKANG I honestly think you guys are only saying that because he’s not as broken as he was before he’s still broken. It’s just not as bad as before and then the whole would you go back to MK 11 year one or MK1 year one my nigga IDGAF how bad MK1 Was there is no WAY IM GOING BACK TO YEAR 1 MK11 like you’d have to be missing 95% of your brain to go back to that
Exactly bro and I'll admit it cuz I main Liu myself and he's good and all but EVERYONE says he's so carried and everything but MK11 was top3 easy MK1 Liu makes a low A tier
Mk11 literally has the least amount of moves since mk4. You can look at deception, armageddon, mkvsdc, mk9, mkx, and mk11. MKX NO VARIATION LIU KANG ACTUALLY HAS MORE MOVES THEN MK1 LIU KANG. This is the most bland liu kang has been in almost 30 years
Another prob with the kameos is I want a lot of them to be fully playable. Sareena FINALLY gets her demon form in-game and she could be a 2-stance character but she’s STILL not playable?! 😭 Jax has human arms again but is just a kameo? He looks cooler than ever too! 😢 NRS has been SO good at revamping characters like FUJIN, so I wonder how Mavado, Darrius, etc. would be in this game.
People hated Mk 11 for the right and also the wrong reasons. Me personally I hated Mk 11 because it was way to scrub friendly. Pokes were too strong on hit and jailed but other moves that should jail did not. Moves that should connect in 11 didn't because the recovery frames weren't there. The frame data didn't make sense and the risk, reward factor wasn't done properly
They didnt even talk about the online issues like the desynch issue that came out when quan chi (i think) came out which made kombat league nigh UNPLAYABLE FOR MONTHS
Very unrelated but I honestly just can’t take Ninja’s takes seriously he’s been very hypocritical as of late and I that peacemaker foolery during final kombat he did was a huge turn away
Year 1 MK11 meta was definitely better, but for me, I enjoy the things i can do with Smoke/Sektor and Ermac/Cyrax sooooo much more than anything i could do with Noob or Kollector in MK11, so theres much more im willing to put up with in this games meta, because i at least get to do fun flashy shit with my characters regardless of whatever meta dogshit im up against. Compared to MK11 where some of the reads and punishes felt more fair maybe, but i was just so bored of doing the same 2 or 3 things when i did make a successful read or get a big punish that it made it an overall less enjoyable experience for me.
Yeah, Injustice 3 was planned to be what MK1 was but got scrapped because of the fear that NRS was getting sold. Which would have meant they would have had a whole project that they could not have released because those are not their characters.
This man seriously talked down on MK11 while it was out, and now he hates the new one too. So basically if you’re a pro player you just hate the current game you’re playing. I’m sorry man, the mk community really is just an echo chamber of whatever “pro” is saying that week. It’s sad. MK1 is so much more fun to play than mk11.
I feel like if they did a kameo-less mode they would have to have different move sets that work without kameos so the whole "the characters will be trash without kameos" would be solved.
Being a Geras main listening to 2 liu kang players conplain about their main is wild difficult to listen to lol and yes id love to take mk1 yr 1 over mk11 if it means i escape the 100 wake up options, the slow ass movement, no combos, easy damage, random FBs, random uppercuts, jade... for crying out loud JADE?? Nah Im cool i love being able to enforce a meaty after knocking someone down
Damn, I loved MK11 and while I want to try MK1, I'm aware of a few things and even more now that I've watched this video. I feel like the Kameo system will be fun until I eventually have to shoehorn into the meta and with so many cool ass Kameos, it definitely discourages me from getting MK1.
@@fallohide5117 dawg. the fun part about these games is using your brain to win neutral. Using Braindead characters will never be as rewarding as beating your opponent by outsmarting them. What’s the fun in using homelander/ferra if I know I’m pretty much guaranteed to win if I know what I’m doing
😂 When Ninja said on his Twitch stream that he prefers 11, I thought he was joking. He was serious! Interesting to know. I still like both games but I understand both sides of the debate on which game is better and/or more fun.
Year 1 MK11 was the best MK has even been competitively? Lmao Also MK1 originally being I3 being confirmed is FALSE! Has not been confirmed. But I do believe it was supposed to be I3.
I ain’t gonna hold you, what ninja said about anybody can just pick up nitara ferra and beat any pro is how every fgc feel about there game. SF players said this about 6, tekken players said this about 8. It’s just the generation of extreme offense. Now tekken and SF has gotten better but the games are still heavy offense and random bs in neutral. Mk becoming an assist game was bound to be like this to anyone who have played assist games, it hits different to mk players who have played their game forever for it to turn into this.
I also find it funny that mk11 had to many wakeup options when you didn’t need them for that game really and mk1 has regular/delayed but would probably be way better if it had all the wakeup options that 11 had so you can get out of a lot of the bs situations.
Here is the problem. The you-tubers like Super and others I USED to watch back in MK11 days all nagged and complained that they are not getting 25 hit combos like MKX. Dev team listened to them and them only giving you a game that you can do combos to the limit that other player can just put the controller down and pull their hair. Games are supposed to be balanced and MK1 is not. On top of that they are money hungry now a lot more than they were in MK11 and you have paid to win characters that come out killing everyone (which probably going to be NOOB) and with in 2-3 month get nerfed cause they are breaking the game. It's just pure bull. MK11 was perfection. I can only imagine if they stuck with it and released KP3 with T1000, Ash William and JCVD as himself from blood sport not Johnny Cage we got in MK1. Add to that pack Ketchup and Mustard with few new levels and new brutalities and they would have made everyone happy. For now I just sit back and watch all the sheep buy the new DLC only to nag about it in probably a week time. I also learned to never ever preorder from this company ever again.
mk11 aftermath era is one of the best fighting games of all time!!! the mind games, custom variation variety and krushing blows in that game was and always will be amazing 💯 its crazy to me how much hate it had in 2021 when it was literally in its peak form
all facts..yea I had to drop Lui my main in 11 and pick up Reiko in MK1..I need sauce. But i do think MK1 has better gameplay. However, MK11 was better at separating the skill gap.
All we heard from ninja when mk11 was out is how much better X was, he always plays top Charaters and complaining about meta, I never seen him win a tournament using a low tier
Same bro anything of that Chinese/Japenese culture and fighting style I just like its why I stuck with Liu Kang and all the other original ninja fighters in 11. Crazy thing is PC port still runs horrible on any GPU, crazy micro stutters and overall bad performance for the PC port version. It doesnt run like the console version at all.
I reinstalled MK11 sometime ago and haven't touched MK1 since, I will say LS you actually can delay wakeup off breakaway. You just gotta press and hold the delay wakeup button after breaking away. MK1 lost me so bad that even despite the changes with KR I'm not intrigued to reinstall at all, I was low-key hoping for no kameo or 2v2 or some type of overhaul cause this ain't it. But I'll gladly boot up Tekken 8 over MK1 anyday, hell MK11 over MK1.
You can tell this was supposed to be injustice 3 it doesn’t look the same as mkx and mk11 and also the fatal blow is literally just like the supers bruh they got us good 😭
Bruh MK11 is def one of tha best I been said it wen tha lyfe cycle was lit . I wanted more , MK1 is good too minus kameos but I like it gameplay fyre & we're gettin more
I know Mk1 has its problems.. but I promise you the most hated MK game will always be the current one.
Bro….thats the realest shit I read all fuckin day….sad but real 😂
Tell em again!!!!
Yeah because people like you keep naming excuses for NRS and will buy the game just because the graphics. Other communities will leave when the game sucks and force change at the studios just like Tekken and SF communities have. But not the NRS boys. 😂😂
Yeah people nearly invaded nrs to get this game out and claim mk11 was the worst ever only to get this version and cry about how mk11 was better. Smh it began horrible I must say though
And the previous one is always better than the current one
MK 1 got beat by a game that came out in 90s at EVO shuts down any argument
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Evo numbers realistically means nothing. UNIST 2 got more evo players but you deadass get matches faster with more variety in MKX
IDK why casuals who not poppin' out even care about that the important part can you play it without being in discord begging for sets
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame that's funny cause I still play guilty gear xrd rev2 and find players to play
GranBlue had more as well and it's also full of players. Mk1 is trash get over it
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlameEXCUSE ME???? in THIS particular case EVO entrants numbers do mean a lot YES! Year 1, a brand new TRIPLE-A game btw, from a franchise that has solidified itself for over 30 YEARS! With the element of legacy on its side compared to all those other franchises and you tryna say those numbers don't matter! nahhh MK1 is ass...
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlameCope😂😂
Y’all miss mk11 until you hop on and fight slight gas kabal upgraded Jacqui skywalker fujin & fight bums that fish for KBs especially the D2 KB. get a hard knockdown and get mixed by the wake up system. Don’t get me started on the combo potential. I’ll stay on mk1 and trust the process.
@crazeworld9842 😂 on me. Don’t forget about breakaway and frame 1 armored unpunishable fatal blows.
I try to play it, but 10 minutes in I’m like “oh, that’s right…” and turn it off. I doubt I’ll buy the expansion.
Lol
Who?
I’m not buying it either
Lmao me too bro.. I'll play practice mode on very hard for about 20 minutes then turn it off.
Lmao this is the SAME THING I tell myself 😂
People complained that MK11 was too defensive and that was because MKX was too offensive. MK1 is now too Offensive but the offense is brain dead and anyone can do it..
There’s a happy medium somewhere, NRS just needs time to find it.
Yeah i feel like injustice 2 is the closest they've come to a satisfying fighting game to learn and play in recent releases
They won’t find it because NRS redesigns the game every installment. No legacy. That’s also why they struggle putting out content.
Bruh…the same guys who were bashing mk11 for being too defensive are now bashing mk1 for not being defensive enough. At one point, these “pros” like ninja were literally saying mk11 was a scrub game because of all the defensive options you had. It’s crazy how quick things have changed and everybody forgot. Oh, but Ninja says something and it’s holy gospel because he’s good at the game lol 🐑 🐑 🐑. Only reason I’m pressed is cause I was saying mk11 was more fun since day 1 and I was getting shit on because pros were saying it was scrubby so if you said you like mk11, the sheep would call you a scrub because the “pros” say it’s a scrub game. But NOW, Ninja says mk11 is better than mk1 and everybody glazing…..this community just runs with whatever the “pros” say. Not a single original thought or opinion. It’s not even the “pros” fault, it’s just their opinion. But the stupid ass sheep take opinions from the “pros” they idolize as fact and will shit on you if you don’t agree with the opinions they copy and pasted from their favorite “pros”.
Exactly
You a real one...have a mind of your own no glazing round here...facts homie
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This is fair but you also have to be realistic nobody knew how MK1 year one was going to be like and I love MK11 because of all the stuff you can do and the defensive options plus the Crypt. By all means you're not wrong people did have bad takes on MK11 no doubt about it but MK1 is way worse than anybody could have imagined. People will miss what they didn't like because it's better than what they have now.
Both games are subpar.
The big problem with NRS is they can make a great game , and instead of building upon it/making the next one better they completely scrap it and make the next entry completely different every single time.
This. It splits the fanbase. Each game has a “coalition”. Mk9 Crips vs the MKx Bloods vs the MK11 Gangsta Disciples vs the MK1 Latin Kings…
I thought legacy was the goal when I bought MK9.
Can we agree the game has been improved a lot since launch. They will continue fixing it, this will be the only MK game for the next 4 years at least.
Jup this 💯
@@artofgarduno congratulations they wasted a full year of said lifespan. Picking up the pieces of an incomplete game full of bugs and glitches missing BASIC game modes😂
Then once they DO give it to you the majority of the fools in the community rejoice as if it's new 😂
This game is far along than you think. Why do you think we're getting drip fed DLC with the Kameo spaced in-between?
Ed Boon told you "4 years" but look what they've done? Released half assed game and slow drip DLC and patches to stretch for the span 4 years....
They're playing y'all 😂
Recency Bias....
Ppl bitched about MK11 the same....
Its boring..
Its too restrictive..
Personally i think MK1 is way better them 11..
Its more flexible and has more room for creativity..
At the highest level its less creative because everyone trying to min max..
And i do agree another universal defensive option could be great for the game
Mk1 gameplay is more fun than 11 imo.
saying otherwise is proof of mental illness i swear
Thank you for speaking the truth unlike half the MK Community
I disagree, only because the cameo system ruins it for me. If it was 1 on 1 like the other games, I would be better in every regard
Miles more fun. MK11 was boring as hell to play even Spawn couldn't save the game for me
@@Chikage773but they add extensive combos . 11 combos were short and boring repetitive
The warriors shrine was the biggest disappointment of mk1
I have said thos to many friends, it's IJ3! Look at how the characters are designed, look at the selection screen in both this and IJ2. Also, separate but I am a casual. I just love the combo creativity and variety. I use Sub/Goro, and it's been fun because I don't expect to be upset losing and I'll be happy winning if I do. Since MKX, I've been in love with combos and MK11 was linear with the combos.
I don’t want to sound like a glazer but honestly I enjoy the game a lot, I love the kameo system. It forces me to stay on my toes and be up to date and knowledgeable of not only the main fighting characters but the benefits as well as the downsides the kameos bring to that character. I feel like it’s forcing a close of the skill gap because unless you feel like getting your ass beat, you have to learn the game in depth. You have to know character mismatches, you have to know frame data, it’s no longer a matter of just learning which 3-5 move sets to look out for and I love that challenge
Yall really tryna sit here n vouch for Mk11 like it was goated? 😂😂😂😂 man cut it out
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Mk1 got bs issues. But mk11 is nowhere near mk1. It’s no comparison.
Someone likes the Kameo😂😂
MK11 has aged gracefully, the stats don’t lie more people have went back and played 11 more lately than 1.
@@JayGaming-p2uThat’s because MK11 appeals more to casuals due to content. MK1 doesn’t appeal to casuals or competitors.
@@JayGaming-p2u I'm going back too... soi can use Kano again, and its just better
I’ve been playing Liu Kang forever and I remember when the beta dropped and I tried him I was like wtf is this bro. He just felt so off. After coming from MKX/MK11 I was disappointed. I play him now only because I love the character smh.🤦🏾♂️
Well he’s fused with raiden so his moves gonna be different bro lol
@@Hinokami777you say that like he got any of Raiden’s moves lol
I feel like if MK1 storyline stuck with the old generation fighters like great Kung Lao and kept it 1v1, the game would’ve been a hit because it would be characters we heard of but never played before and would be cool to see how MK started. I feel like some characters in this game get away with a lot and the kameo do more work than the actual main character and the combos get boring. So I definitely understand you and ninjakilla because MK1 ruined Liu kang low key lol
I agree with you but I don't think kameos are the reason MK1 isn't that great
Yeah i think things would be more fun if they were their traditional selves with cool moves, liu Kang having no nunchucks is goofy
I agree
@@LouStreets Ikr thats like taking away scorpions spear or sub zeros ice ball. Just took away bros whole personality
I was mentally committing like crazy that this game would include the great Kung Lao and the fact that they fumbled that is insane to me.
Mk11 was not that fun like i dont get it. You could learn a mk11 char in 5 minutes and there were hardly any variation in how you played a character. Even once they opened kustoms. There was always a best in slot loadout. Breakway was awful. Many chars had bad movement. Getting 30% off throw krushing blow with 0 execution required, 50% off mashing uppercut. Flawless block reversal was too strong. I guess we just we forgot about all these things
We didn’t say it was perfect just better
MK11 isn't without it's faults BUT pound for pound it's a better game than mk1 from every angle.
@just_2swift heavily disagree but to each their own
Flawless block reversal is a mechanic I want to see come back.
@MC24DB maybe as a get off me tool but not as a full launching reversal
It's funny hearing Ninja say WB tries to appeal to the casual scene because a lot of casuals feel the opposite lol. I guess you really can't please everybody
Exactly. This game is the result of them getting tired of all the complaining and moaning from the community and rushing tf out it. They gave us an inferior product that's raking twice the money between the expansion and micro transactions. They gave us less and demanding double and it's because people couldn't see what we really had with MK11.
Ninja is speaking about casuals/pros strictly from a competitive standpoint. He’s not talking about single-player modes and content, which we know casuals care more about.
did ninjakilla forget the fujin mk11 meta?? 😂😂 This is some crazy revisionist history
The fact that we're basically playing injustice 3 just pissed me off even more
A lot of people overlook that smh
I've said this before. If we did got Injustice 3 right after Mortal Kombat 11, we would have to wait 6 more years for another mortal kombat game. Which probably would not release up until the year 2027 or 2028.
Crazy how Everytime I hear ppl talk about nrs communication it literally sounds like being in a emotionally abusive relationship 😂 and I agree with everything that was said
The biggiest issue with mk 11 was breakaway and useless moves/krushing blows. And the combo routes were basic
INSANE when ppl say if someone doesn’t like the game, s/he needs to get better. That’s only true for SOME ppl! You can be good and not enjoy kameos! It’s about gameplay. Some players won’t touch a game if their fave’ characters don’t return for a sequel. If you know what you like about a game series and then a sequel doesn’t have what you want and the new features aren’t interesting, then that’s just a matter of tastes.
Mk11 discouraged offense a lot with how busted the wake-up and break away system was, true. I just happily pick that problem over the braindead offense in MK1
It discouraged offense by keeping it in check with flawless block and roll wake ups. It was always minimum risk max reward meanwhile MK1 is the same meta but on straight roids.
And that's what it pretty much comes down to.. Pick which problem you want Lol
Thank you Ninjakilla for keeping it real!
The Council of Kangs 🔥 aye that actually sounds fire 😅
Mk11 needed 1 more update
It needed so much more than that bro
"coming soon"
@@louis550thank covid. It needed 1 more update on a few different things. But as it stands, its still better than mk1. Cope and seethe
@@Filterdeez it genuinely had the most boring gameplay of any fighter I ever played, the gameplay lacked so much depth it just became a strike throw meta.
@@louis550 yeah, you rely on unblockable/low cameo combos to land a hit, dont ya? Or do you rely on kameos keeping you safe when you do dumb, unsafe moves, huh? Yall are the only types of players that think mk11 was boring. Bet you couldn't even FBA in 11🤣
We not gon talk about how the servers are horrible and the lag that builds up online is ridiculous when you win
MKX was the best ngl. But MK 11 needed one or two more updates or inclusion to be fire
No... MK9 was the best...
@@tyrantking222 to each is own man. It’s not a pissing contest.
I agree..mk11 needed another update. The game just had bugs that could easily be fixed before they abandoned it. I also thought after the first few patches of mk11 the game was actually okay
MK11 was awesome but yeah I felt they gave up on it too early
Mk9 was better
Also the thing that Ninja liked the most was Flawless Blocking because he was so good at it that he could beat most players just by abusing the Flawless Block defense option.
I was good at it too but you can’t abuse it cuz your opponent can bait you to get blown up, that’s just more of a in match thing more so than the mechanic itself
That mechanic is needed in mk1 the no defense game flawless block not giving you plus frames is ass SF6 defense shits on MK MVC collection full of ancient games have better defense and make more sense than MK1
I still think MK11 is more flawed than M1K. I revisit MK11 every now & then & people say you have more options in that game but I just don’t see it. In that game the variations were just as limited as kameos in M1K (which I think people are wrong about as a Havik main I’ve found lots of uses for different kameos) but in MK11 you were forced to use certain loadouts just as people say you’re forced to use certain characters/kameos in M1K. Another thing is that the mechanics in MK11 just weren’t balanced at all. Breakaway & krushing blows are some of the most biased systems ever put in a MK game. Your character either barely got to get damage because of breakaway or krushing blows being so specific & useless. Free meter is also another thing that made the game a lot more dumbed down including with the wakeup system. People treat MK11 like it had no problems & that M1K is a mess compared to it but both games have their issues. Both games played to scrubs in different ways so I don’t think the skill gap point really makes sense. I think it’s just a bias towards MK11. Which don’t get me wrong MK11 was a good game but it still required a lot of work to be amazing. I just wish people would stop doing this with every MK game. They say the new one is complete trash, takes no skill, etc. when the same things were said about the previous game but now that game is praised. I’m also saying this all as a person that had 1,200 hours on MK11 like I still think it’s a good game. It I can never say it’s my favorite.
Exactly and mk1 movelists are huge for every character giving more options and variety
People can say anything about 11 but saying it had more options than 1 is lunacy. They probably mean more customization options.
@@Ocean5ix and even that was criticised by the fucking casuals of mk11 saying that inj2 had way better customisation options lmao
I thought Ed Boon confirmed on twitter that MK1 was always MK1 and did not start out as injustice 3
Of course he HAS to say that. Doesn't mean it's true.
This video speaks volumes. It was very interesting to see NK's take on the current situation with MK.
I have been forcing myself to play it because it is the latest. I enjoy the hype and I was quite disappointed with the story of chaos reigns. I am disappointed with the gameplay.
I am tempted to go back to MK 11 again. I keep saying that and keep going back-and-forth.
23:30 ive always said that ash in mk11 was cancelled for joker because of sonicfox. Hes said joker is a fav of his multiple times, he had a play style sonic was -easily- able to abuse, and literally no one asked for joker, like sonic was prolly the only human being asking for the joker in mk11
Yessir!!!❤❤❤ You goated for this Lou streets. Two of my favorite gamers on UA-cam.
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Ninja sounds salty he didnt make evo qualifiers coz of homelander
Nah he not being salty… he just telling facts… you can’t tell if a player is a good player because of the kameo system… kameo system has really ruined this game and makes it worse…
17:20 Right here is where Ninjakilla's starting to be full of shit. There WERE carried players in 11, specifically Jade, Cetrion, Shiva, Robocop, Scorpion, Kabal, and Jacqui. How do I know this?
I PLAYED 3/7 THAT I JUST LISTED AND GOT ALOT OF WINS WITH THEM. I WAS CARRIED.
Yes my cousin was ass and robocop used to have him keep up with me
Hearing a Pro talk this talk abt how brain dead casuals meta-chase is so relieving because everyone sees it but nobody speaks on it
I swear I felt like I was living on an island to myself for years when saying MK 11 is actually a fun game for people who love defensive fighters. I always felt like I had a chance when playing MK 11, whereas the way kameos are presented here alongside certain characters having so many save strings alongside particular kameos just makes MK 1 struggle in the fun department for me. It's been a long time that I've played a MK game for about 30 minutes every couple of weeks and feel like I've gotten my fill of it with not burning interest the next day to play so more.
At this point I think they need to make a horror fighting game if they can get the licensing situated. Start fresh but bring back Freddy, Jason, and Leatherface from MK9 and X. Add Michael Myers and others but just make a new game that isn’t MK or Injustice.
The thing we have to ask ourselves is, what does "broken" mean to us? MK11 added new characters but other than a few cases like Sheeva Stomp nerf, I don't recall anywhere near the complaints that we get when new characters/kameos are added in MK1. If I had to place the fault somewhere I think it all goes back to the kameo system. The moment you add a new kameo, suddenly every single fighter has to potentially be rebalanced to play fairly w/ this new kameo whereas when a new fighter is added, everyone just needs to lab that one fighter to understand their tech and how to counter it. I do think adding a 1v1 mode would be easier than adding a 2v2 mode since it would mainly involve enhancing everyone's moveset to be an able fighter on their own w/o the use of kameos. Once that's fully fleshed out, THEN we can start considering the possibility of a 2v2 mode.
In any case, I think over the next year, we are mostly going to see a repeat of year 1 when it comes to the impact of adding new fighters and kameos. Everyone will abuse the meta and those of us who continue to stick w the game will have no choice but to learn to deal w it or join the meta abusers. I will be part of the former. I am looking forward to the future MK1 but am in no way expecting them to fix the main problems of the game anytime soon. Either way I'll continue playing it alongside Tekken 8 as I do find it fun as well.
I've been saying a lot of this since the game dropped and i ALWAYS got shit on for it. Even made a video like 2 months in about the gameplay not being fun long term. Good to see other people openly agree now.
Flawless Blocking punishes needs to come back.
Mk11 is the only mk i could play, win 10x in a row and actually be mad. But ninja hold on… in your most recent mk11 vid vs sikk you said “ Bro why did i even download this game! “ in a rage mode lol. So which one is it? Mk11 was so damn dry and boring that i had to force myself to watch pro comp or even play. I literally don’t see how yall can play mk11 fr, im speaking for myself so it’s my opinion but bruh.
Nah you 100% spitting that shit is so sleep and I love all mk games for different reasons but how can people miss mk11?? Crazy to me
@likenoother6561 cus its better and has more stuff to do, unlike mk1, it's boring literally nothing to do, and it's already also no one is talking about the new update that shows mk1 is dead mk11 beat it already even ninja agrees
@@Leatherface5002 ninja is one person with an opinion, his is no more important than Sonic or the Chile twins and ninja is my favorite Pro in the FGC. So to challenge you what more is it to do in mk11 than mk1? Because at least with invasion it’s an actual replay value unlike krypt which i myself like. The same hold your hand argument Lou tried to make is the same argument that can be made for mk11. Especially the argument of being punished for doing the right thing which is 10x worse in mk11 brake aways.
@@ricardo_islam314 mk1 dyed really quick tho unlike mk11 no one is talking about the new DLC of mk1 but mk11 aftermath everyone talked about it that game didn't dye fast but mk1 already died even it recently came out also explain evo mk1 did horrible unlike mk11 i remember everyone was playing mk11 when it came out so this shows mk11 destroyed mk1
@@Leatherface5002 "MK1 already died"
What a dumb quote... Both me and you know that this is not truth, just enter in a online match in MK11 and MK1, then see who find an oponent faster.
"Oh but the steam numbers are low", let's remmember that the reason they were was the causal player that rarely entered the game, and Yes, this was a bad point for MK1, but now the ToT are back so... May this change, undeniably the competitive players show way more activity there then in MK11, got it? The games just have a different playerbase... What shouldn't happen, but ever happen in MK games ufortunaly.
The braindead offense of MK1 is more fun than the boring poke wars of MK11.
MK11 was one of the worst fighting games I've ever played. People only lasted so long on that game because of hope. After 5 years there weren't any more hope left in the tank for MK1.
Such a good conversation. A breath of fresh air compared to the positive toxicity echochamber that is twitter. Nice to hear real players discussing real issues in Mortal Kombat 1.
Ninjakilla talking out of his ass, nowhere has it been said that this game started as injustice 3
Not publicly. You don’t think people like Sonic has heard things behind the scenes and told Ninja? Sonic cannot keep his mouth shut. People gossip.
Because of all the complaining and disrespect, NRS gave us this product. The community being entitled and rude with the criticism is what got us a rushed, inferior product while bonking us over the head for even more bread.
This is like ordering food, complaining and then chewing out the chef and wait staff and getting surprised your food came back from the kitchen with a loogie in it.
The criticism was valid to a degree but the way it was communicated literally pissed off NRS and they went postal.
To be fair, the game was released much sooner than expected. We expected it released the next year. It was released incomplete.
In regard to MK1 being Injustice 3, I never thought of it that MK1 was literally an MK game built upon an Injustice skeleton that they had to scrap, but it makes sense.
I always thought MK1 was just a reskinned MK11 with the camera pushed back and the assist feature from MK11 towers.
Either way, when Boon retires or does another AMA I truly hope he does a tell all about the development of MK1 and what went on behind the scenes.
Kameo system allows for too much bs imo. Chip on block, making anything safe, unblockable setups, and more. And then we have a lack of defensive options to tackle these problems. Mk11 was more boring combo wise, but from a technical standpoint it was better as a fighting game competitively. There is a ton of cheese within mk1
Ninja speaking a lot of facts here. Braindead offense against lack of defensive options creates a huge problem. MK1 year 1 was complete ass overall and MK11 year 1 in comparison does not even seem that bad, not to mention the amount of defensive options are were so much a part of the issue. What we need is a balance of defensive options
What's even crazier is the fact that people call you and Mike Hollow grifters in the FGC lmao. It's so crazy
lol that’s just cope, it comes with it 🤣
Mk1 is a good game . In this game literally you can use any character and make it work with a kameo . Random example Baraka that if you try to use it in mk11 is just useless (almost)
MK11 was in certain situations stvpid because you had problems with situations to punish or getting out the corner with wake ups sistem. The problem here is the game is balanced right now and have more players competing in tournaments.
I met Big Ninjakilla at final kombat in toronto. I was wearing a Liu Kang T shirt and got to take a pic w/ him but so sad he only got to use Liu for one round... What a joke....
Respectfully, this was so hard for me to watch lol. I hate MK 11, id much rather play MK 1 than MK 11. Not to say MK 1 is the best game because I think it’s 2nd to last in NRS games of all time, I’m so glad we are done with MK 11
I prefer MK1 because it fits more my gameplay style (Really, i never managed to make one entire kombo with MK11, and the only character i played well was Noob), now in MK1, with much less hours of gameplay i already know how to play with 3 characters, and the gameplay it's much more appealing for me honestly. Now with the ToT, all the problems that made me stay far from the game from weeks and weeks are basically solved, this is kinda what i played the most on MK11.
Also, with this, MK1 is kinda equal to MK11 in off-line content, since the Krypt is just a "extra" and not a true entire game-mode, aside from this, MK11 krypt obviously was the best and stomps the invasion (not like this is hard), but i never played it enough to miss honestly... I don't like grinding...
@@tyrantking222you explaining your preferences in MK1 literally tells the story. Minimum risk and max reward and that's not a bad thing but just rather truth. Not everybody wants to grind and develop their characters and gameplay etc. You have people that want a game they can pick up and just start going crazy out the gate.
You got a legend on here bro I love to see it ✊🏽
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I’m so glad you drop this because with ninja saying mk11 is better this shuts down any back talk .
So the opinion of one person is enough for you so say nothing else matters? That’s delusional on so many levels bro lol Use your own brain and stop glazing.
Lmk when u pop Ninja meat out ya mouth 😭 Mk11 is the stiffest game I’ve ever played
His reasoning moreso applies to pros than regular players tho and he ssid he can see how.regulsrs may enjoy it more lol.
@@PewPewShootEmUp it’s applies to anyone above casual level , pros opinions gives a good baseline to the topic . Casuals don’t see the game the way higher level /competitive players do .
Yeah people gonna have their disagreements but def more than anything else people weren’t wondering if MK11 would die by year 2, i think that’s pretty undeniable at the least, but more than him saying, he said a lot of the top players feel this way which shocked me the most
The only part I don’t agree with when ninja said this is the worst LIUKANG I honestly think you guys are only saying that because he’s not as broken as he was before he’s still broken. It’s just not as bad as before and then the whole would you go back to MK 11 year one or MK1 year one my nigga IDGAF how bad MK1 Was there is no WAY IM GOING BACK TO YEAR 1 MK11 like you’d have to be missing 95% of your brain to go back to that
Exactly bro and I'll admit it cuz I main Liu myself and he's good and all but EVERYONE says he's so carried and everything but MK11 was top3 easy MK1 Liu makes a low A tier
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It's stupid that noob is bi han but Bi han is still the old Sub zero. Make it make sense NRS.
it’s cause this Liu kang is a bit more harder to play with in mk11 dude had bare moves🤣🤣literally 3-5 button combos
Mk11 literally has the least amount of moves since mk4. You can look at deception, armageddon, mkvsdc, mk9, mkx, and mk11. MKX NO VARIATION LIU KANG ACTUALLY HAS MORE MOVES THEN MK1 LIU KANG. This is the most bland liu kang has been in almost 30 years
@@jket1943 it is dude no wonder why everyone says he's brain dead cuz he doesn't have much to use!
I just want a mk9/mkx gameplay style with mk11/mk1 visuals😫😫
Another prob with the kameos is I want a lot of them to be fully playable. Sareena FINALLY gets her demon form in-game and she could be a 2-stance character but she’s STILL not playable?! 😭 Jax has human arms again but is just a kameo? He looks cooler than ever too! 😢 NRS has been SO good at revamping characters like FUJIN, so I wonder how Mavado, Darrius, etc. would be in this game.
People hated Mk 11 for the right and also the wrong reasons. Me personally I hated Mk 11 because it was way to scrub friendly. Pokes were too strong on hit and jailed but other moves that should jail did not. Moves that should connect in 11 didn't because the recovery frames weren't there. The frame data didn't make sense and the risk, reward factor wasn't done properly
Nickopz and Tom Brady and Sikander think MK11 is the worst fighting game
Sikander555 is lying he played Mk11 everyday for 4 years, he loved Mk11
Mk11 is my favorite not cause of gameplay but cause of content graphic and animations.
I been sayinggggg this shit for the longest MK1 AINT IT!!! Great vid my boy..... Mk9 still the goat
Lou you are truly out here man, dont ever stop !
I appreciate you bro, just trying to keep pushing
"ain't folk take it easy" bros fr. I love the discourse ma dawg.
I hate the Kameo system and I hate the brain dead no thinking, just doing unsafe moved! And use kameo to be safe omg!!! I hate it so much
They didnt even talk about the online issues like the desynch issue that came out when quan chi (i think) came out which made kombat league nigh UNPLAYABLE FOR MONTHS
Mk11 better than MK1 if you don’t know what a good fighting game is just say that
Very unrelated but I honestly just can’t take Ninja’s takes seriously he’s been very hypocritical as of late and I that peacemaker foolery during final kombat he did was a huge turn away
Year 1 MK11 meta was definitely better, but for me, I enjoy the things i can do with Smoke/Sektor and Ermac/Cyrax sooooo much more than anything i could do with Noob or Kollector in MK11, so theres much more im willing to put up with in this games meta, because i at least get to do fun flashy shit with my characters regardless of whatever meta dogshit im up against. Compared to MK11 where some of the reads and punishes felt more fair maybe, but i was just so bored of doing the same 2 or 3 things when i did make a successful read or get a big punish that it made it an overall less enjoyable experience for me.
Yeah, Injustice 3 was planned to be what MK1 was but got scrapped because of the fear that NRS was getting sold. Which would have meant they would have had a whole project that they could not have released because those are not their characters.
This man seriously talked down on MK11 while it was out, and now he hates the new one too. So basically if you’re a pro player you just hate the current game you’re playing. I’m sorry man, the mk community really is just an echo chamber of whatever “pro” is saying that week. It’s sad. MK1 is so much more fun to play than mk11.
I loved watching MK X and MK11 tournaments but can't stand MK1. There isn't any risk/reward dynamic and it is unwatchable.
I feel like if they did a kameo-less mode they would have to have different move sets that work without kameos so the whole "the characters will be trash without kameos" would be solved.
Being a Geras main listening to 2 liu kang players conplain about their main is wild difficult to listen to lol and yes id love to take mk1 yr 1 over mk11 if it means i escape the 100 wake up options, the slow ass movement, no combos, easy damage, random FBs, random uppercuts, jade... for crying out loud JADE?? Nah Im cool i love being able to enforce a meaty after knocking someone down
Damn, I loved MK11 and while I want to try MK1, I'm aware of a few things and even more now that I've watched this video. I feel like the Kameo system will be fun until I eventually have to shoehorn into the meta and with so many cool ass Kameos, it definitely discourages me from getting MK1.
fam, you've been killing it with these podcasts lately
keep up the good work!
Ima still compete year 2 I started late at combo breaker & wanna improve & go further year 2 & I actually enjoy the game 🤷🏾♂️
The amount of “fuck neutral” moves in this game is crazy. There’s literally full screen 50/50 moves in this game and full screen command grabs. Lmao
right... and both players can pick those characters... making it fair. yall are slow.
@@fallohide5117making it boring*
He didn’t bring up fairness.
@@garfusso you mean like the peace maker mirrors or the cage mirrors in the last majors? I 💯 agree
@@fallohide5117 dawg. the fun part about these games is using your brain to win neutral. Using Braindead characters will never be as rewarding as beating your opponent by outsmarting them. What’s the fun in using homelander/ferra if I know I’m pretty much guaranteed to win if I know what I’m doing
NRS didn’t think people would break the game n play it the way it’s played if I’m being honest.
😂 When Ninja said on his Twitch stream that he prefers 11, I thought he was joking. He was serious! Interesting to know. I still like both games but I understand both sides of the debate on which game is better and/or more fun.
Year 1 MK11 was the best MK has even been competitively? Lmao
Also MK1 originally being I3 being confirmed is FALSE! Has not been confirmed. But I do believe it was supposed to be I3.
I ain’t gonna hold you, what ninja said about anybody can just pick up nitara ferra and beat any pro is how every fgc feel about there game. SF players said this about 6, tekken players said this about 8. It’s just the generation of extreme offense. Now tekken and SF has gotten better but the games are still heavy offense and random bs in neutral. Mk becoming an assist game was bound to be like this to anyone who have played assist games, it hits different to mk players who have played their game forever for it to turn into this.
I also find it funny that mk11 had to many wakeup options when you didn’t need them for that game really and mk1 has regular/delayed but would probably be way better if it had all the wakeup options that 11 had so you can get out of a lot of the bs situations.
Here is the problem. The you-tubers like Super and others I USED to watch back in MK11 days all nagged and complained that they are not getting 25 hit combos like MKX.
Dev team listened to them and them only giving you a game that you can do combos to the limit that other player can just put the controller down and pull their hair.
Games are supposed to be balanced and MK1 is not. On top of that they are money hungry now a lot more than they were in MK11 and you have paid to win characters that come out killing everyone (which probably going to be NOOB) and with in 2-3 month get nerfed cause they are breaking the game. It's just pure bull.
MK11 was perfection. I can only imagine if they stuck with it and released KP3 with T1000, Ash William and JCVD as himself from blood sport not Johnny Cage we got in MK1. Add to that pack Ketchup and Mustard with few new levels and new brutalities and they would have made everyone happy.
For now I just sit back and watch all the sheep buy the new DLC only to nag about it in probably a week time. I also learned to never ever preorder from this company ever again.
MK9 is the peak of modern MK games. It had it all, despite the bs. Kung lao Kameo has all the moves that made Kung Lao, like
wtf 😂
mk11 aftermath era is one of the best fighting games of all time!!! the mind games, custom variation variety and krushing blows in that game was and always will be amazing 💯 its crazy to me how much hate it had in 2021 when it was literally in its peak form
all facts..yea I had to drop Lui my main in 11 and pick up Reiko in MK1..I need sauce.
But i do think MK1 has better gameplay. However, MK11 was better at separating the skill gap.
After a few cameos changes they’re going more defensive now with the new buffs
THE STREETS REMEMBER NINJAKILLA'S FUJIN IN MK11
The grind is real keep going yo 💯
17:35 I remember this argument was used about mk9. Fgc doesn't change
All we heard from ninja when mk11 was out is how much better X was, he always plays top Charaters and complaining about meta, I never seen him win a tournament using a low tier
Same bro anything of that Chinese/Japenese culture and fighting style I just like its why I stuck with Liu Kang and all the other original ninja fighters in 11. Crazy thing is PC port still runs horrible on any GPU, crazy micro stutters and overall bad performance for the PC port version. It doesnt run like the console version at all.
I reinstalled MK11 sometime ago and haven't touched MK1 since, I will say LS you actually can delay wakeup off breakaway. You just gotta press and hold the delay wakeup button after breaking away.
MK1 lost me so bad that even despite the changes with KR I'm not intrigued to reinstall at all, I was low-key hoping for no kameo or 2v2 or some type of overhaul cause this ain't it. But I'll gladly boot up Tekken 8 over MK1 anyday, hell MK11 over MK1.
You can tell this was supposed to be injustice 3 it doesn’t look the same as mkx and mk11 and also the fatal blow is literally just like the supers bruh they got us good 😭
Bruh MK11 is def one of tha best I been said it wen tha lyfe cycle was lit . I wanted more , MK1 is good too minus kameos but I like it gameplay fyre & we're gettin more
Great video bro. Don’t agree with everything yall said but that’s what makes civil discussion great
This guy totally gets it 🔥🔥 thanks bro
How can fighters who don't do the meta but still always come out on top In tournaments be successful .Just pass the torch 😭