Essential Reading for Machinists! - Haas Automation TOD Toolbox
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- If you've spent any time in a machine shop, or in an engineering department for that matter, you've almost certainly had a chance to delve into the depths of the Machinery's Handbook. This tome of machinist's information and data always seems to have something you can use to answer those "how do I calculate that?" questions.
Mark talks about what makes this book so great and also shows us a few other useful reference books for everyone in the machinist trade.
If you want to get the Machinery's Handbook right from the source:
books.industrialpress.com/mac...
Here is the link to the Haas Shop Notes PDF:
www.haascnc.com/content/dam/h...
Zeus Precision Data Charts:
www.amazon.com/precision-refe...
Engineer's Black Book:
www.engineersblackbook.com/
Gerstner Tool Chests:
gerstnerusa.com/products/
Kennedy Tool Chests:
buykennedy.com/
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One of my favorite resources: Haas Tip of the Day videos.
My favorite resource is all the Haas videos you guys make. Thanks for making them and please don’t stop!
I Have the digital edition. Ever since I started having a laptop I'll never go back. You can highlight and make bookmarks for anything and navigate there with the click of a mouse. I do this for tooling catalogs and other PDFs as well. It's awesome having every chart you could possibly need and you can search by text too.
My favourite resource is Haas Tip Of The Day :D
I actually just bought myself a copy of the Machinery's Handbook, Engineers Black Book, and Electricians Black Book a week or two ago. Glad to see I made a good choice!
I was hysterical when talked about the 24 th edition and the screw threads pages. 😂
I bought a copy of the 23rd edition in 1990 when I really graduated from being a machine operator to a machinist. In my copy, the thread pages and the speed and feed pages are all dirty and have post-it notes sticking out of them. Thanks for the "Flashback".
That is awesome John. I wonder how many hundreds of Handbooks we'd find if we went through the whole plant?
Here in Germany we mostly use the "fachkunde metall" and Tabellenbuch metall" wich are probably the metric only equivalent to your machienerys handbook.
Great comment! I found that they publish these in English as well. Now I have to get myself the set! Thanks for posting.
I have one but i live in VietNam and it very very useful
@@NoobGuyZZ Now I know I want them!
In germany we also call it "Zerspaner Bibel" or the "Machinists Bibel". It's the holy book for metallworking.
Tabellenbuch Metall from Europa Lehrmittel. I first got used to it when I was about 14 and used it trougout school, and now my apprenticeship. I have indeed spent money to buy some extras so i have some around to trow at engineers who have asked me what hole to drill for M6 treads.
Just got the 31st edition. Been in the trade 14 yrs. Have been telling myself to buy it for a long time, finally got it after struggling to find info on some bspt threads. Thread disk is a fantastic thread database, but has nothing for bspt, only npt pipe threads. The handbook is loaded with info!
Thanks to Haas for all the great videos. Wish this stuff was around when i got started.
I am in Spain and I use “casillas “ cálculos de Taller”
Laptop with all my books in PDF. The ones used most: Fanuc custom CNC Macro, Peter Smid
CNC programming using custom macro b, S. K. Sinha
Also used are several Mike Lynch publications.
I have quite a collection of books that date back to the late 1800’s including tools. I have also collected a few rare slide rules with books on how to use them. My most cherished book is my great grandfathers machinery’s handbook that I also still use today!
That’s terrific. There’s just something about slide rules, and those plastic slide-rule type feed and speed calculators we used to get. Your grandfathers machinery’s handbook is an heirloom now!
Handbook 25 + Zeus + Black book. All great resources! (UK)
In the Machinery's Handbook, there's a small section I use often: logarithms of gear ratios. I cut gears and sometimes I do not have the correct set of gears to obtain the needed ratio for the machine. The tables and simple calculations make finding another set of gears (just to be clear: I'm talking about ratios with 4 or more gears not just 2 index gears) a breeze.
After 5 years I got that book a few months back just for the thread chapter
That book is epic, almost all the crazy diffrent thread sizes are in that book
One of the only threads I didn't find in the MH was an 8-26 thread which is common on Pre-War Banjos, like the Gibsons. I'm not sure how 8-26 became the thread of choice for those hooks/nuts. I think that WWII helped to standardize thread sizes everywhere.
I’ve got several books including the machinist handbook (the machinist Bible) but I’ve made my own special binder with my favorite charts printed off on printer paper, laminated and hole punched.
I have a binder like that! It's filled with specific info on customer related parts. Counterbore/Countersink, Fit Tolerances, -AN Port tolerances from the Mil Specs, some JIS standards, and a few properties of material sheets on some odd alloys. I saw a pic of someone's binder on the Machinist threads this week, and they had pages filled out with their feeds/speeds/stepover/DOC for all the tools in their library, for different materials - great idea. Thanks for the comment.
currently at fort lee virginia, 91E mos in us army. we have been introduced to the HAAS TM1 cnc mill. and im obsessed with this channel! so much info!
I bought the Engineers Black Book and a few tables, just for having something (I'm a hobbyist). Metric version of course 😊
I have the large print edition.of the machinery handbook. And the Audel Millwrights and Mechanics Guide. The George Daniels book Watchmaking has some very clever info on machining small parts.
I gotta say that my favorite resource (aside from HAAS TOD’s of course) is the pocket sized Starrett Decimal Equivalent charts. I keep standard and metric versions in my breast pocket and use them daily. Sometimes even more than my measuring tools if I’m doing a lot of programming that day.
Holy shit I never noticed the finger hole in the Kennedy tool boxes
Yep. Finally got my Kennedy top/bottom after 25 years complete with the center drawer for 'The Bible'.
I'm using the Black Book metric version. For the tool holder and insert identification mostly, but the hole coordinates, threads, math... etc. are also great "tools".
So I literally stopped the video. Went to my toolbox and looked at my Machinist handbook. Lo and behold, it really does say "Machinery" and not Machinist hahahahaha
Mandela Effect
Glad to hear the history of our favorite book
totally spending my day off work bing watching haas tip o day videos.... can't wait to go to work tomorrow, got a haas umc 750 waiting for me there, it's pretty nice
The black book is water and oil resistant I love that book
As a UK-based amateur, I started with the Zeus tables. I now have a very grubby copy that shows 4 decades of almost daily use, and two clean(ish) ones, but I invested in a secondhand copy of MH about ten years ago. Well worth the price. I didn't know about the black book, but it's on my birthday list now!
Ive had a copy of Zeus tables since 1976, carried everyday in my overalls pocket and used daily, Brilliant.....
The thread section for sure - the other book? Haas Mill or Lathe Workbook - BEST G code book out there!
The book we use in sweden is alot thinner but it covers what it needs to and fits perfectly in your back or leg pocket. First thing I did in mine was to mark the pages for tolerances and threads.
Because it's Metric and doesn't need such stupid ammounts of converting feet, rods, furlongs, yards and other meaningless useless units of comparisson.
What book is that?
Yes, what thin book do you use in Sweden? Thanks.
@@markterryberry4477
The book here in Sweden is called "Verkstadshandboken" (The workshop handbook/manual/guide)
The modern version is black and compact with approximately 360 pages. It contains everything from feeds/speeds, milling, turning, unit converters, ISO tolerances, drilling and threading, material names/properties, some G-codes and M-codes and more.
Got my own private copy as a Christmas present last year and I carry it with me at all times at work.
A fresh copy is more or less 60 USD.
just a side note about Haas shop notes... I have my own notebook I put together over the years, and the Haas shop notebook is basically interchangeable with my personal notebook, and I think that is very unusual and interesting. I've made several of these machinist notebooks too, I'm working on my 27th edition. My first one had a lot of information about 2 axis haas lathes, this newer edition has a lot of information about haas 5 axis umc 750. I really love how fun it is to learn more about haas machines.
I use the SHOP REFERENCE FOR STUDENTS AND APPRENTICES, as being a instructor this makes sense for me and my studnets. Smaller version of the Handbook.
That's great. Another good one for my shelf.
Note all the thread specs are relative to the pitch. And can be mathematically the same based on dia. For macros programming or just making a list of relative dia. Of majors and minors for programming.
Engineers black book👍
Please do a video explaining G112 on lathes. Would love to know how to write my own hex program or interpolate a pocket by hand. I’ve seen a few examples in an old Haas manual but could really use some explanation.
I’ve got the 30th. Very useful
Love thoes vids ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Tap-Drill card. Must have under a magnet on the lid of my Kennedy. I use an old 1970’s “new old stock” card. Never fails.
I used to like the last page of the ENCO tooling catalog, decades ago. It wasn't fancy but had a good listing of the tap-drill info on one page, for cut and form taps. In fact, if anyone sees this and still has a copy of an ancient ENCO catalog, a picture of that last page with the chart would be great, can email to TOD@haascnc.com. Nostalgia
Well what do you know! I wondered why it was the Machinery's Handbook as in the possessive. Thought it was an archaic use of the language going back to the industrial revolution. But no it was produced by the "Machinery" magazine so its their handbook.
My dog eared and coffee stained pages are on speeds and feeds, threads and conversion - imperial and metric
5th addition is my personal favorite
Lol that's what that drawer was for. Doing it wrong for 20 years. Oh and my vf2 has 100mm not 125mm t-slots as on the website.
I am using 28 edition of this Book, and often use broach section of this book
I use black book and machinery handbook.
Another reason the pages in Engineer's Black Book feel the way they do, is because if smeared with greasy fingers, they can be easily wiped off. I got my copy a while ago and I use it every single day.
- Marcin
I use Camcut app, very useful.
hello from germany
i am using the "tabellenbuch für Metalltechnik" like Mechanical and metal Trades Handbook latly in the tolerances and fits section
and i wana thank you tuhe hole haas team
and specaly
Mark Terryberry any tip of the day i needet them realy bad
Orville Collins all service tips
Andrew dude i shit my pans wehn i ecedantly push stop in a toolchange....
John Nelson probing was never so easy
i was never a machinist ore operator but wit your awsome haas ngc and fusion 360 i am running a vf2tr 12h a day and started my own buissnes with frinds ... and i learnd Technical Product Desinger..... insane
As someone in the rest of the world, I wish the Machinery's Handbook would purge all the nonsense imperial units! I still use it as the go-to reference of course as it's simply the only complete reference, but even in the latest edition there's a lot of imperial-only data that you're then referred to conversion charts for. I do love the Engineers Black Book, as it's available in a Metic edition and like you say it feels amazing and the ring-binding is great, but it's so small that it's only good for the bare essentials. While designing, the Machinery's Handbook is always close at hand.
Zeus! and my buddy bought me my first after I stole his all the time! Then pocket machinery. And yes always on the thread pages lol Great vid.One day I might splurge and buy a real machinists tool box.
25th Edition and mostly the thread section
I'm debating on if i should update my 11th edition machinery handbook. It was copy right in 1945
Is there a printed version of the Haas Shop Noted PDF that can be ordered?
Hi Duane. The local Haas Factory Outlets usually have them in stock. Give your dealer a call and they can make sure you get one. I'll talk with our eCommerce guys and see if they will be making it available to order online. Great comment.
Just bought newest edition. But then required 1922 print
I have considered buying these books but need a metric version. Online stores don't let you read before you buy. Is there a metric only version?
U can download the digital copy for free it’s in a public domain library
Same.the threads
i buy haas vf4 couple month ago, i pay everythings include installation, but now, when my place are ready, haas dealers here in UAE dont have any single people to installed my machine??? verry dissapointed, i thought its a big company
donny reborn - We are in contact with the dealer to get this resolved as quickly as possible. Thanks - Haas Automation
Im from Poland im 26 and i got 5 and half year of experience. I worki in toolshop on 5 axic. Please. I need good job
19th edition right here.
The beautiful 19th edition (1971!) that's in this video was the Handbook of Randy O'Fallon, the father of one of our Haas Engineers (and The Answer Man) Bryan O'Fallon. That's pretty impressive. I used the shop's 24th edition for years before buying my own. Those Edition numbers kind of feel like Employee numbers to us machinists, we always want the coveted low numbers. They are like a craftsman's nicely worn tool belt - a badge of honor.
@@markterryberry4477 that's awesome. At the shop we have a bunch of old machining ligature. Most from the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Don't have a screw machine in the house. Have something about tooling for them. Our old parent company. Had 8-10 of them. Ran I don't know how many parts. Old cam machines. I want to buy a newer version. Just been hesitant about it. The older versions. Seem like the have better information in them that the newer ones. As far as what we work on. Job shop.
I got one that says it's from the 50s
Tabellenbuch von Europa Lehrmittel
Machinist Calculator Pro!
In italiano..tempo fa qualche video erano doppiati...peccato
Massimo, Puoi accedere alla funzione di traduzione automatica di UA-cam e, si spera, ottenere una traduzione ragionevole del video. Fare clic sul pulsante "CC" (didascalie chiuse) in basso a destra. Quindi fai clic sull'ingranaggio "Impostazioni" e seleziona "Sottotitoli / CC", quindi "Traduzione automatica" e quindi "Italiano". Grazie.
Carr-lane trig book
That’s a good one! And their Jig and Fixture book is a good read.
The guys I work with call it the bible.
my boss doesn't know i'm going to show up.. but he has a really nice cnc machine just sitting there with no one running it... i don't think anyone will argue with me if I just show up and start using it. Hey man, there is a reason why that cycle start button is green. It's cause every time you press it you are making money.
*2:25** Why wouldn't you just print that out instead? Printers have been around for A LONG TIME.*
at my work we just use google
I’ll certainly tell you what book I’m not using. The Haas manuals that come with the machines are terrible, especially the ST lathe manual.
Hi Rick. We are always working at improving our manuals. Send us an email to TOD@haascnc.com, with some of the issues you’ve had, and we’ll look at addressing them. With all the new features being added, the manuals are constantly being updated.
You can also check out our Lathe Programming Workbook, its under the "Essential 9-Lines" section of our Haas Video Bonus Content site : www.haascnc.com/video/Video-Bonus-Content.html, and if your lathe has live tooling, then I'd check out our Live-Tool Lathe Drilling video as well, ua-cam.com/video/M-L7gzR9XBk/v-deo.html