I love that all of them has this repeated melody. It makes feel the Harbingers connected. And that melody is epic as hell. Thank you for creating this video.
love how the song fits the characters so much. In childe's theme you can feel the thrill of battle. In signora's theme, there's this fury but at the same time just a pinch of sadness, probably for her loved one. and in scaramouche's theme you can just feel how much he hates literally EVERYONE lmao. he just wants to watch the world burn but unlike childe, its not cuz he likes fighting, its cuz of the many times others betrayed him. like if you swapped signora's theme with scara's it would make way less sense
scaras music really shows his true goals. his fatui portion is shorter and less pronounced than the other two, especially now with it being finished, which shows that his part in the fatui was only a way to achieve his own goal
Here's another interesting fact. Childe is the only one here that doesn't have any vocals in his Fatui motif theme. He's also the only harbinger that has no vocals in his first phase theme
@@Gray42504That was because Childe's transformation is derived from Abyssal power, as he is blessed by The Will of the Abyss itself during his stay there under tutelage of his master, Skirk. In fact, his 3rd phase theme is purely Abyssal in instrument, not a single Snezhnayan nor Liyuean leitmotifs are there.
Fischl's theme who played in her first trailer and again in her story cutscene for the Golden Apple Archipelago has this leitmotif too. Maybe the Fatui theme was created by La Signora since she was a singer? Probably yes, that's why Columbina is singing it, she was close to Signora. This implying that Fischl is from Signora's lineage somehow, they reused this leitmotif for the second time on purpose on the GAA story
I just comparing that there are leitmotif in every fatui member, and there is also differences between them which means those are not include as the fatui leitmotif, it's their own leitmotif. Just my opinion✨
@@SilVer-hu2ps It has just been confirmed that most of the already implemented soundtrack has been over 3 years in development. Obviously, it's recycling hahaha
@@tommyyareth5290 doesn't matter. It's still the first that came out. If it was really for the fatui, they wouldn't use that to any other characters. The fact that they used it on a non-fatui member means they didn't plan it that far ahead.
I find it fascinating that Scara is the only one who changes the theme. Considering his different background to the Harbingers than most, it makes perfect sense.
2:29 aaand that's not the fatuis leitmotiff either. It's one of Scaramouche's leitmotiffs that was first presented in ominous fandango. It TRIES to sound like the fatuis theme at the start, but it is distorted at the end, to signify that Scara is actually not one of them. Meanwhile 2:56 that IS the fatuis leitmotiff! Notice how it actually ends correctly? Through Scara's theme the ominous fandango motif appears twice as well as the fatuis motif :3
This leitmotif sounds like it took inspiration from “deus irae”, a centuries old melody that is often used to symbolize death. It’s interesting if this were the case as this theme fits really well with the harbingers who are associated with death and old beings (500 year old legacy)
Actually, that first 'fatui leitmotif' on scaramouche's boss theme is Ominous fandango, his own theme. it sounds a lot like the fatui melody, but it ends low instead of high. the actual fatui melody comes about halfway into the song, though
thats pretty much not the original lyrics, its poorly translated. but oh well, that lyrics sounds more menacing and actually describes Signora’s backstory
Childe: wailing electric guitar. Excitement, amped up for battle. It’s all about the thrill of a fight to the death Signora: a choral dirge. Almost like a funeral, foreshadowing of her….unceremonious death which would soon follow Scaramouche: electronic, galactic, yet full of rage. The mechanical puppet turn god, whose rage threatens to swallow the world
-harbingers boss fights -places where we can find the trace of ancient unknown civilization(enkanomiya,chasm) -places where we can find the traces of celestial(peak of vindagnyr,inside chasm,tsurumi island) and many more. the composers is really great that they can manage to make this music characterization. or maybe it is a part of the plot, idk
Btw you might want to rename it a leitmotif, instead of pattern, because it's the more proper way to call this repeated melody. If anyone were to search for it they'd probably search it as a leitmotif as well
I also thought that Chrysalis Suspirii sounded awfully similar to Elogia Cinerosa- but I think its because its indicating the potential of the new plot in Sumeru. This is because we hear Chrysalis Suspirii for the first time in La Signora's boss fight when she's transitioning from her delusion to her Crimson Witch of Flames state- it's showing an unexpected change and it's almost like "oh this has potential thing".
It's actually a little simpler. Elogia Cinerosa IS a variation on Chrysalis Suspirii. Elogia Cinerosa is actually a funeral song. It's played in honour of La Signora.
Scaramouche's motif ending sounds different and perhaps will be the only one sounded individual, simbolizing his abandonment from the true objectives of the Fatui.
This motif plays in the Signora defeat cutscene alongside Raiden's theme's motif. They really add to the tension in the cutscene, an absolute masterpiece in terms of using music to make a cutscene more dramatic.
childe: fatui + abyss (the electric guitar feels like pure evil idk) signora: fatui + mondstadts (organs in the back remind me of the church) scaramouche: fatui + inazuma (but it seems to be a slower ver. of smeru battle theme) + techno sounds (artificial god?) but that's just my two cents
The high notes of the synthesized electric guitar are supposed to represent a whale's call. Since Childe's constellation is a Monoceros Caeli (Narwhal), and he throws a literal whale at us.
I like how childe's theme has lesser vocals / opera in it. It may symbolises that hoyoverse don't wanna disclose his back story or maybe that he is someone that less talk, and fight more.
I remember that I saw a tweet that the harbingers' fight themes are based on the Sneznhaya national anthem, maybe that part that is "repeated" is something related
this is a big problem u see with fanmade boss themes, theres some that skip the fatui theme totally or dont incorporate the character theme and it makes it feel less authentic
You missed the time it plays in Tartaglia's phase 1 theme on the accordion. I suspect it wasn't originally intended to be a motif for all Harbingers since it happens so often in Tartaglia's theme, not to mention so far his is the only theme that has the motif in phase 1; it was probably just a motif for Tartaglia's theme that was repurposed later when they were making the music for La Signora.
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS!!! I knew there was something deeper going on behind their themes, I'm genuinely so impressed by how amazingly Hoyoverse conveyed their backstories behind their boss themes, as well as also using cold themes from Shneznaya, im guessing we'll get some sort of background behind this melody later on as well! Also! Columbina's singing resembles some certain part of Signora's battle theme, you'll see what I mean if you listen to it!
when referring to Harbinger leitmotif, many keeps forgetting the first and second phase of Childe's battle theme, when played to the full extent, also includes this leitmotif. Only beginners with unbuilt characters and music listeners would play the music this far.
Childe sounds with the music of tsaritsa and liyue, The signora with Inzauma and the Tsaritsa While scaramuch, Inazuma, Tsaritsa and sumeru At least they make me that they reach that combination
I wish Arlecchino's theme had more of the Leitmotif play into it as well but it just appears once around the end of phase 1. So a bit disappointed by that.
Fatui Harbingers were the best Bosses we had so far, not even monsters or Abyss can surpass them. Support Harbinger as Villains, even though their actions is for Tsaritsa and the nation
i think the second one for la signora is actually her theme, not the fatui motif, as its the same melody that plays over her funeral and first theme, tho i could be wrong about that. but, the first motif on the scara theme is definitely from his cutscene music “ominous fandango,” not the fatui theme (notice how the scara one goes up to a high note and ends on a low note, while the fatui motif starts by going down a note ending high). they all sound very similar tho so it could be small references.
Good. Now listen to "Sieh an, mein Sommernachtgarten!" Fischl theme, at 00:33 you will listen something interesting. You might want to add that to this vid. I wonder what is Fischl hidding, but things might not be what they look like.
Childe - Physical
Signora - Mystical
Scaramouche - Technological
the dottore : Emotional
Pantalone : Financial
Marionette: Mechanical? Old timey swing music would slap
Pulcinella: kazoo
@@PurpleAmalgam what does financial even sound like?!
@@Stormimi Crippling debt
Help these comments made me cackle
I think we will get the original version of the song during Tsarita's fight or probably Pierro's
Can't wait for that✨
Pierro's is gonna have harbinger le motiff with a hint of khaenri'ah theme as well
I think a Tsaritsa fight would just be perfect for the original theme
I don't think we will fight any of those two
@Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IV Their country problem are fatui problems so we will just help the fatui in the end
Fatui boss music in a nutshell
Childe: Menacing Metal
La signora: Menacing Opera
Scaramouche: Menacing Orchestra
Menacing tecno
@@obihz2415 cant wait for menacing dub-step
@@yepsyyep I wonder if that's gonna be Dottore's
Dottore: Menacing *surgical operation* theme
@@riholu It’s probably gonna be like trumpets or something
I love that all of them has this repeated melody. It makes feel the Harbingers connected. And that melody is epic as hell.
Thank you for creating this video.
You're welcome✨
That is the intention of the leitmotif, to connect one event with another.
@@tommyyareth5290 Thanks, but i know what leitmotive means. Still, thank you.
Lmao. That's Fischl melody at first.
שלום עידו מחלוף
אני מסכימה דרך אגב!! זה ממש מגניב
love how the song fits the characters so much. In childe's theme you can feel the thrill of battle. In signora's theme, there's this fury but at the same time just a pinch of sadness, probably for her loved one. and in scaramouche's theme you can just feel how much he hates literally EVERYONE lmao. he just wants to watch the world burn but unlike childe, its not cuz he likes fighting, its cuz of the many times others betrayed him. like if you swapped signora's theme with scara's it would make way less sense
He wants to make the world burn like he feels it burnt him.
scaras music really shows his true goals. his fatui portion is shorter and less pronounced than the other two, especially now with it being finished, which shows that his part in the fatui was only a way to achieve his own goal
Here's another interesting fact. Childe is the only one here that doesn't have any vocals in his Fatui motif theme. He's also the only harbinger that has no vocals in his first phase theme
@@Gray42504That was because Childe's transformation is derived from Abyssal power, as he is blessed by The Will of the Abyss itself during his stay there under tutelage of his master, Skirk. In fact, his 3rd phase theme is purely Abyssal in instrument, not a single Snezhnayan nor Liyuean leitmotifs are there.
I like how scaramouche’s ost despite being raw and unfinished Is already enough for some people
Edit: mistakes
Is still a bit unfinished but now is much better
Yu Peng Chen really is the music archon
I like scaramouche raw
@@david.7417 Ayo?
@@david.7417 Omg 😂
SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED IT! I thought is was so neat that they all had the same tune in their final phases
THIS IS AWESOME ALSO THE UPDATED SCARAMOUCHE THEME JUST DROPPED AND IM BLOWN AWAY
Where
I need to know
@@DTB3RG4D987 ua-cam.com/video/VOMnR4x6LBs/v-deo.html here you go ^^
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Phase 2
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Phase 1
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Should i send you the link or did you find it already?
0:21 tartaglia
1:23 1:55 signora
2:29 2:56 scaramouche
Fischl's theme who played in her first trailer and again in her story cutscene for the Golden Apple Archipelago has this leitmotif too. Maybe the Fatui theme was created by La Signora since she was a singer? Probably yes, that's why Columbina is singing it, she was close to Signora. This implying that Fischl is from Signora's lineage somehow, they reused this leitmotif for the second time on purpose on the GAA story
I just comparing that there are leitmotif in every fatui member, and there is also differences between them which means those are not include as the fatui leitmotif, it's their own leitmotif. Just my opinion✨
Fischl's was more for recycling or parody.
@@tommyyareth5290 huh? She was literally the first. Lmao.
@@SilVer-hu2ps It has just been confirmed that most of the already implemented soundtrack has been over 3 years in development. Obviously, it's recycling hahaha
@@tommyyareth5290 doesn't matter. It's still the first that came out. If it was really for the fatui, they wouldn't use that to any other characters. The fact that they used it on a non-fatui member means they didn't plan it that far ahead.
It's my headcanon now that the ones singing in the orchestra are the people of Snezhnaya hired by the Tsaritsa to back the singing of her harbingers
I find it fascinating that Scara is the only one who changes the theme. Considering his different background to the Harbingers than most, it makes perfect sense.
2:29 aaand that's not the fatuis leitmotiff either. It's one of Scaramouche's leitmotiffs that was first presented in ominous fandango. It TRIES to sound like the fatuis theme at the start, but it is distorted at the end, to signify that Scara is actually not one of them. Meanwhile 2:56 that IS the fatuis leitmotiff! Notice how it actually ends correctly? Through Scara's theme the ominous fandango motif appears twice as well as the fatuis motif :3
Yes, but it has fatui(?) Leitmotif at first that same with Childe and signora with additionally scaramouche leitmotif✨
Sorry if I bother you for correct it, but "Fatui" is already the plural of the word "Fatuus"
It is thrice
intro, transition into EDM territory, ending
@@guilhermerafael4737 oh lol you're right. And I suposedly know italian XD Anyways I think that what I missed were the apostrophes
@@AMWmyu00 you mean Scaramouche's leitmotif? I supose I need to listen to it 20 more times
This leitmotif sounds like it took inspiration from “deus irae”, a centuries old melody that is often used to symbolize death. It’s interesting if this were the case as this theme fits really well with the harbingers who are associated with death and old beings (500 year old legacy)
You mean “dies irae” or “deus irae”
Ah, that's why I always thought Diavolo's theme sounded similar to Fatui's melody, both are based on "Dies Irae"
Actually, that first 'fatui leitmotif' on scaramouche's boss theme is Ominous fandango, his own theme. it sounds a lot like the fatui melody, but it ends low instead of high. the actual fatui melody comes about halfway into the song, though
Signora's part of the harbinger leitmotif has some interesting lyrics
"Wicked one has appeared
Defeat it
Move on to victory"
thats pretty much not the original lyrics, its poorly translated. but oh well, that lyrics sounds more menacing and actually describes Signora’s backstory
Childe: wailing electric guitar. Excitement, amped up for battle. It’s all about the thrill of a fight to the death
Signora: a choral dirge. Almost like a funeral, foreshadowing of her….unceremonious death which would soon follow
Scaramouche: electronic, galactic, yet full of rage. The mechanical puppet turn god, whose rage threatens to swallow the world
-harbingers boss fights
-places where we can find the trace of ancient unknown civilization(enkanomiya,chasm)
-places where we can find the traces of celestial(peak of vindagnyr,inside chasm,tsurumi island)
and many more. the composers is really great that they can manage to make this music characterization. or maybe it is a part of the plot, idk
Btw you might want to rename it a leitmotif, instead of pattern, because it's the more proper way to call this repeated melody. If anyone were to search for it they'd probably search it as a leitmotif as well
Thank you for the info✨ Right away!
I also thought that Chrysalis Suspirii sounded awfully similar to Elogia Cinerosa- but I think its because its indicating the potential of the new plot in Sumeru. This is because we hear Chrysalis Suspirii for the first time in La Signora's boss fight when she's transitioning from her delusion to her Crimson Witch of Flames state- it's showing an unexpected change and it's almost like "oh this has potential thing".
It's actually a little simpler. Elogia Cinerosa IS a variation on Chrysalis Suspirii. Elogia Cinerosa is actually a funeral song. It's played in honour of La Signora.
@@drpaimon2369 I didn't realize that it was simpler! Thank you!
Never-Ending Performance also have it, I you listen carefully you can actually hear it
3:24 btw this is Signora's leitmotif :3
That’s what I noticed too as well, and I think it is very creative how they made the Fatui have a certain theme song.
Yup! this and also that Genshin "Battle Theme" Leitmotif
Scaramouche's motif ending sounds different and perhaps will be the only one sounded individual, simbolizing his abandonment from the true objectives of the Fatui.
This motif plays in the Signora defeat cutscene alongside Raiden's theme's motif. They really add to the tension in the cutscene, an absolute masterpiece in terms of using music to make a cutscene more dramatic.
I know genshin's leitmotifs very well but it's nice to have a video comparing these
you missed the Raiden Version (the death of Signora) it has the same Harbinger theme
Aahh yes💦 I forgot to insert that one
thats just signoras theme overlapped with raidens to match the story progression
Now u can get the same leitmotif from Arlecchino, from overture trailer....
childe: fatui + abyss (the electric guitar feels like pure evil idk)
signora: fatui + mondstadts (organs in the back remind me of the church)
scaramouche: fatui + inazuma (but it seems to be a slower ver. of smeru battle theme) + techno sounds (artificial god?)
but that's just my two cents
Dottore:fatui+sumeru
The high notes of the synthesized electric guitar are supposed to represent a whale's call. Since Childe's constellation is a Monoceros Caeli (Narwhal), and he throws a literal whale at us.
@@mneech609 I HEAR IT NOW, UR A GENIUS
@@mneech609 new narwhal lore dropped in 4.2, Childe's Narwhal is now a weekly boss
To distinguish Phase 1 and 2 music, just listen and the one that's absolute fire is Phase 2.
Some of this lightmotif is also shared by fischl as well.
Yezzir
I like how childe's theme has lesser vocals / opera in it. It may symbolises that hoyoverse don't wanna disclose his back story or maybe that he is someone that less talk, and fight more.
I love this detail between the Harbingers' themes.
I like the fact we might have scaramouches VA singing it in the final version
The CN VA confirmed he wasn’t the singer.
the "Fatui" theme also happen in Tartaglia 1st phase and Scaramouche 2nd phase transition.... where he combine top and bottom half
I remember that I saw a tweet that the harbingers' fight themes are based on the Sneznhaya national anthem, maybe that part that is "repeated" is something related
I like how the similar melody is in all their final phases
Can’t wait for the next harbinger theme to release 💖
Signora lyrics : pain pain pain
this is a big problem u see with fanmade boss themes, theres some that skip the fatui theme totally or dont incorporate the character theme and it makes it feel less authentic
You missed the time it plays in Tartaglia's phase 1 theme on the accordion. I suspect it wasn't originally intended to be a motif for all Harbingers since it happens so often in Tartaglia's theme, not to mention so far his is the only theme that has the motif in phase 1; it was probably just a motif for Tartaglia's theme that was repurposed later when they were making the music for La Signora.
HUGE THANKS! Im currently working on a Dottore soundtrack and i got to arrange a lot, this help me a ton to connect with the overall Fatui theme!
The melody at the start of both Childe's and Signora's themes are actually the same or atleast similar
80% of their themes have the Fatuil leitmotif.
Example is the beginning of Foul Legacy and the beginning of Saltatio Favillae
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS!!! I knew there was something deeper going on behind their themes, I'm genuinely so impressed by how amazingly Hoyoverse conveyed their backstories behind their boss themes, as well as also using cold themes from Shneznaya, im guessing we'll get some sort of background behind this melody later on as well!
Also! Columbina's singing resembles some certain part of Signora's battle theme, you'll see what I mean if you listen to it!
There's another part to it. When Dottore first shows up, the music matches another part of the A Winter Night's Lazzo theme
Additional:
- Never Ending Performance (Childe Boss Fight Phase 1 = (1.00 -1.15)
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- Signora After Battle/Signora Execution = (00.00 - 00.15) (00.30 - 00.50)
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don't forget fishl theme in this
Childe's phase 1 also has the Leitmotif play on it
1:55 that's actually not the fatuis leitmotiff, but it sounds kinda symilar at the start
I love them theme so much and Im very excited to the next themes
This is so cool!! The video is great too, the red light / green light system really helped me hear when the part started
Maybe it's also the song Alphonso left, y'know the tattered paper
"A song from somewhere" maybe it's their anthem or something
leitmotiv, or, reverse, theme and variations
this is what this would be in classical music
when referring to Harbinger leitmotif, many keeps forgetting the first and second phase of Childe's battle theme, when played to the full extent, also includes this leitmotif. Only beginners with unbuilt characters and music listeners would play the music this far.
Oh wow. I was asking for this a couple minutes ago and suddenly stumbled upon this video. Perfect.
0:21 - tartaglia
1:24 - la signora
2:30 - scaramouche (1)
2:57 - scaramouche (2)
3:56 - columbina
Childe sounds with the music of tsaritsa and liyue,
The signora with Inzauma and the Tsaritsa
While scaramuch, Inazuma, Tsaritsa and sumeru
At least they make me that they reach that combination
And then fischl's trailer also has something very similar
Why hasn't genshin Been selected as a nominee in the game awards for the best audio
У Синьоры самая красивая
Beautiful indeed✨
Don't forget the Wreck of Eternal Bane 😌
I wish Arlecchino's theme had more of the Leitmotif play into it as well but it just appears once around the end of phase 1. So a bit disappointed by that.
That's really interesting! I never knew how they were all connected like that
the fatui theme has been found
Also columbina's singing is actually signora's theme in honor of her death i guess
También lo había notado hace un tiempo amigo, espero puedas leer este comentario y también ronda la teoría que sería el Himno de los Fatui
It's sad that I can't hear tartaglia's 3rd stage properly..... He dies to fast.
Wait bro....I ACTUALLY DIDN'T NOTICE THAT-
This also appears when Childe went all out to fight the All Devouring Narwhal
Will be waiting this if Arlecchino becomes a boss
To think that Yu-peng Chen will have to remix this leitmotif 8-9 more times (the other Harbingers and maybe Tsaritsa)...
Fatui Harbingers were the best Bosses we had so far, not even monsters or Abyss can surpass them. Support Harbinger as Villains, even though their actions is for Tsaritsa and the nation
Interesting leaked version of the Scaramouche theme, now that we have the actual one. It's a pretty stark contrast with the lyrics.
I realized that the soundtracks of the fatuis have opera in the background
this is such a cool observation!! Thanks for this video!
I never paid attention to the similarities thank you.
I bet the Tsaritsa entire theme will be based on that
It's present in Childe and signora's theme first phase
Only today did I get a brain tick that they share a leitmotif
Btw, the first part on scaramouche’s theme is actually that, his theme, it sounds similar to the harbinger leitmotif but it’s not.
I would like to also point out that the leitmotif is ALSO in Tartaglia’s first phase. On the accordion line.
now is someone gonna combine this leitmotif or what
ua-cam.com/video/VOMnR4x6LBs/v-deo.html here’s the newer (non-midi?) version of scara’s phase 2(?) theme for the curious
ua-cam.com/video/nN-iAfV8tkA/v-deo.html and here is the current newest phase 1(?) here as well
i had noticed it in signora and scaramouche's themes but i had somehow missed it in childe's.
i think the second one for la signora is actually her theme, not the fatui motif, as its the same melody that plays over her funeral and first theme, tho i could be wrong about that. but, the first motif on the scara theme is definitely from his cutscene music “ominous fandango,” not the fatui theme (notice how the scara one goes up to a high note and ends on a low note, while the fatui motif starts by going down a note ending high). they all sound very similar tho so it could be small references.
I believe Fischl has this sound as well.
The Gift of The Tsaritsa!
Scaramouche: techno cyber
aka the best leitmotif in the game.
Honestly I always liked how it sounds like a whale on Childe's part
I wonder how they’ll Incorporate it into the other three nations, seeing as all the weekly bosses except Monday at have been fatui harbingers.
their national anthem
Check the new arrival arlecchino theme and guess the leitmotif
0:28 / 1:29 / 3:03 / 4:04
That part, I like
Good. Now listen to "Sieh an, mein Sommernachtgarten!" Fischl theme, at 00:33 you will listen something interesting. You might want to add that to this vid.
I wonder what is Fischl hidding, but things might not be what they look like.
Bangers!! XD
I guess this is the Fatui's bgm lol
You forgot the leitmotif in all of their first phase themes too (except for signora i think).
What if it's the national anthem of Snezhnaya lmao
Yall just noticing this??