A couple of additional thoughts which I dont think have been included in your excellent video: The first is that, in general, robot mowers which utilise a boundary wire or which rely upon visual navigation, cut in a random pattern while those which use GPS (or similar) are able to cut in a predictable pattern. This is important because a predictable pattern looks nicer (you can have pseudo stripes, for instance) and the cutting efficiency is far better (a whole garden can be cut more quickly - ie. not randomly). Obviously, GPS based control costs more up front and, in some cases, has ongoing data charges over the air to maintain accurate position and to not repeat cuts which were done on previous days. The second consideration is ongoing support. The cheapest mower models can sometimes be considered as throw away items. As the price increases it's nice to think that somebody will be there to fix or replace it and this is certainly true for the middle range units. A number of the most expensive mowers come from well known manufacturers who have local dealerships to which you can take the mower if it packs up or if it doesn't respond to firmware updates or functional issues. Some, however, come via a web transaction and are supplied by small start up companies who have a strong web presence but no local support. Your only help is via forum or UA-cam and in the worst case you may need to box up the unit and ship it away for repair. These units can be quite large and relatively heavy and you could be stuck without a mower for a long time. In my case I purchased an RTK based mower from a well known manufacturer and a local dealership who treat me well. I had a number of minor issues at the start - nothing serious - and the dealership arranged for a support manager to visit and sort things out. Since then the mower has been excellent. Prior to purchase my wife thought that this was a bit of a "big boys toy". Within a few days, a little bit or swearing (from me) while programming the boundaries, and the area manager visit, the mower was nicely installed and we both love it. We cut about 0.6 of an acre - much of it an irregular shape. While costly to buy, the time saving is immense and we are both delighted with our purchase. For a reasonable sized garden they really are a game changer!
Hi Thanks so much for your comment, insights and experience of your own RTK guided mower. Yes I agree that some will want a white glove install and local on-going support. I think this is something that Mammotion will provide as the brand expands Globally. Thanks again Mark
Thank you for your comment! I'm glad you found the review helpful. There are definitely budget-friendly options available, and I encourage you to consider factors like lawn size and features that are important to you. If you have any specific models in mind or need further recommendations, feel free to ask! Happy hunting for the perfect robotic mower!
Wow, I've been searching for a wireless robot lawn mower for so long! This Segway Navimow seems like the perfect fit. I love how it eliminates the need for perimeter wires, making it so convenient and hassle-free. I've heard it's also really efficient and delivers precise cuts. Definitely giving it a go!
Excellent video - thanks very much. My question, if I may, is can I get a robot lawnmower to dock just off the lawn itself? I want the lawnmower to park itself at the side of the lawn so that it's mostly out of sight, and where my boys won't trip over it playing football or running around.
Hi, what type of mower in terms of navigation were you considering? The GPS/RTK will be able to do this. The boundary wire models will depend on the make and model you purchase as all have different requirements when it come to the charging station.
Yes the LawnMaster drop and go is a good and cost effective option and popular in the UK. Many of the robotic mower manufacturers are going to be releasing camera guided robotic mowers, over the coming months, so hopefully they will be available in the US too. Thanks
@@EasyLawnMowing vision (150 USD) plus GPS (400 USD - we need good ) is the best solution - so total min 2000-3000 USD good - I think and only electric ( petrol will be forbidden soon in Europe)
My flymo robot mower stopped working straight after the end of the guarantee. Did the straightforward things, battery change and voltage check with multimeter. Website and helpline give a long list of agents but none that I have called (I have called lots) do repairs. So bear in mind you might be replacing it after 3 years. Guess it depends if you think that is good value or not....
Sounds like manufacturer enforced obsolescence. This happens a lot with printers. These shady dealings need to be dealt with legally so manufacturers stop ripping us off.
Great video. Are there any robotic mowers that can also trim edges against a wall? (I currently use a strimmer) Also, are any of these suitable for Spanish lawns ?
Most robotic mowers need some trimming, but it depends if the mower can straddle the lawn and the border. They will need to be flat and level so the mower can cut the entire edge. Thanks
Great videos Mark! Seriously considering the Luba, how good is the quality of cut in appearance, I currently use a Hater rotary with Roller which when cut the grass does look good, for a few days anyway!
Hi, The cut quality is really good as long as you change/turn the blades when they become blunt. I have just changed the blades after nearly 3 months as I noticed the cut was not as clean and it started missing the longer straw grass. Naturally any lawn stripes are not going to last long and the Luba brushes the lawn as opposed to rolling it.
Great video, thank you. My rear lawn is around 1000sqm, but I cant justify spending Luba money. I'm actually considering 3 lawnmaster L10s. 1 for the front lawn of around 200sqm and 2 for the rear lawn, each with their own 500sqm zones. Do you forsea any issues with running 2 on a single lawn? Provided the boundry wires are correct I don't inagine it being a problem.
Thanks, pleased it was helpful. The only issue with your proposal I can see is where the 2 zones on a single lawn join. You will need to leave a gap between them (creating an uncut lawn), otherwise they will venture into each others zones. I tried this on my front lawn with the WORX range of mowers and I needed to leave a narrow path in between on these zones. I would contact Cleva to confirm with them what gap needs to be left between the 2 perimeter wires.
Your reviews are very helpful. Your opinion on other brands would be interesting. Do you have any plans to review entry level or midrange Segway Robotic Lawn Mowers?
I'm really liking the Luba especially as the 2 is out now. My only issue is no UK dealer so support or returns may seem crazy. Any thoughts on this as i hate only on-line chat bots that you cant detail the any nuances of a issue.
Yes this is a downside of the Luba here in the UK. For me and others, what you get for your money in terms of functionality and performance, offsets the UK support and returns (but may not be for everyone). Thanks
@@EasyLawnMowing Thanks the UK is way ahead on robot lawn mowers. Seems like they are just starting to gain traction in the states. There are allot of companies coming up with GPS units. The boundary wire seems like it would be more of a hassle initially but if done correctly would less likely to have issues later. How smart does it really need to be to mow the grass. That peg tool looks great but not available in the states.
Thank you for your feedback! I completely understand-robotic mowers can be quite an investment. If you're looking for more budget-friendly alternatives, there are some great options out there that still offer good performance. If you have any questions or need suggestions for more affordable models, just let me know!
Hi, Thanks for your comment. Yes the LawnMaster mowers a great value, perform well and have a good build quality. LawnMaster reviews here:- easylawnmowing.co.uk/category/lawnmaster/
@@EasyLawnMowing I have an update I decided to buy it and has been disastrous. No battery sent, no clips for the wire, not enough wire to cover wbat they claim. Bought 3 weeks ago still cannot use. Company claims I have received everything.
Mine has been very reliable for almost a year now. Yes there have been some teething issues with updates but they get sorted quickly and Mammotion are listing. Are you in the UK? There is now a service centre in the UK should you need it. Thanks Mark
Might seem expensive but we bought a new ride on tractor and it was much the same price of the most expensive one in the line up. However the tractor has been nothing but endless problems and constant trips to the servicing centre for repairs. Going forward we will only consider a robot lawn mower and will never touch any ride on machine again, as they are just not worth the money or hassle.
Be wary of just using amp/hours as an indication of battery energy capacity ... the amp/hour rating is only half the story, the other half being voltage. Basically a 2Ah battery at 18V has half the energy (Watt/hours) of a battery that is 2Ah at 36V ... multiply the Amps by the Volts to get the Watts (or in this case Watt/hours). I don't know why tool and garden equipment batteries don't explicitly state the capacity in Watt/hours then you could compare different voltage tools more readily... after all you can get a little AA battery that has 2Ah capacity and it clearly doesn't have the energy capacity of a 2Ah tool battery pack.
Thank you for your insightful comment! You make an excellent point about the importance of considering both amp-hours and voltage when evaluating battery capacity. The watt-hour (Wh) measurement indeed provides a clearer picture of the total energy available in a battery, as it combines both the amp-hour and voltage ratings. It's true that many manufacturers focus on amp-hours, which can be misleading when comparing batteries of different voltages. By providing the capacity in watt-hours, consumers would have a much easier time making informed decisions about which tools or equipment best meet their energy needs. Your comparison with AA batteries is a great illustration of how capacity can vary significantly across different battery types. Hopefully, more manufacturers will adopt clearer labeling practices in the future to help consumers better understand battery performance. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic!
Hi Woody, the 5000 model is suitable for 5000m squared or 1.24 acres. Even this would need to be broken down into zones (max 10), and cut over 7 day period to be efficient and ensure grass is cut at all times. Thanks
On all these robot lawnmowers one time they tell us they’re good the next time they tell us they’re no good for the price of them. They should be very good.
While some robotic mowers can operate in light rain, it's usually best to allow them to mow when conditions are dry for optimal results. If you have any more questions about robotic mowers or their usage, feel free to ask!
@@EasyLawnMowing To be hones no of those convienced me. Every robot has some features which the other hasn't. So you will never find a complete solution in one product. And those who comes near to my demands are to expansive in my opinion. It is basically still a lawn mower with a tiny basic computer build in and not a car. Maybe it needs time when those become a mass product like other electronic gadgets
This video guide is designed to help people to choose the best robotic mower in 2024. The technology is still the same and the advice is current, hope this helps to clarify, thanks.
A couple of additional thoughts which I dont think have been included in your excellent video:
The first is that, in general, robot mowers which utilise a boundary wire or which rely upon visual navigation, cut in a random pattern while those which use GPS (or similar) are able to cut in a predictable pattern. This is important because a predictable pattern looks nicer (you can have pseudo stripes, for instance) and the cutting efficiency is far better (a whole garden can be cut more quickly - ie. not randomly). Obviously, GPS based control costs more up front and, in some cases, has ongoing data charges over the air to maintain accurate position and to not repeat cuts which were done on previous days.
The second consideration is ongoing support. The cheapest mower models can sometimes be considered as throw away items. As the price increases it's nice to think that somebody will be there to fix or replace it and this is certainly true for the middle range units. A number of the most expensive mowers come from well known manufacturers who have local dealerships to which you can take the mower if it packs up or if it doesn't respond to firmware updates or functional issues. Some, however, come via a web transaction and are supplied by small start up companies who have a strong web presence but no local support. Your only help is via forum or UA-cam and in the worst case you may need to box up the unit and ship it away for repair. These units can be quite large and relatively heavy and you could be stuck without a mower for a long time.
In my case I purchased an RTK based mower from a well known manufacturer and a local dealership who treat me well. I had a number of minor issues at the start - nothing serious - and the dealership arranged for a support manager to visit and sort things out. Since then the mower has been excellent.
Prior to purchase my wife thought that this was a bit of a "big boys toy". Within a few days, a little bit or swearing (from me) while programming the boundaries, and the area manager visit, the mower was nicely installed and we both love it. We cut about 0.6 of an acre - much of it an irregular shape. While costly to buy, the time saving is immense and we are both delighted with our purchase.
For a reasonable sized garden they really are a game changer!
Hi Thanks so much for your comment, insights and experience of your own RTK guided mower. Yes I agree that some will want a white glove install and local on-going support. I think this is something that Mammotion will provide as the brand expands Globally. Thanks again Mark
Appreciate the review! I’ve been eyeing a new robot mower for a while now.
Thanks, Mark
Thanks for the review! Still on the hunt for a more budget-friendly robot mower.
Thank you for your comment! I'm glad you found the review helpful. There are definitely budget-friendly options available, and I encourage you to consider factors like lawn size and features that are important to you. If you have any specific models in mind or need further recommendations, feel free to ask! Happy hunting for the perfect robotic mower!
Great guide!
Glad it was helpful!
Wow, I've been searching for a wireless robot lawn mower for so long! This Segway Navimow seems like the perfect fit. I love how it eliminates the need for perimeter wires, making it so convenient and hassle-free. I've heard it's also really efficient and delivers precise cuts. Definitely giving it a go!
Glad you like it!
You keep on commenting on random videos, "hiddenly" promoting the Segway - not cool!
You're the ChatGPT of Robotic Mowers. Thank you so much for your amazing videos!
Wow, thank you!
Great review, man!
Glad you liked it!
Excellent video - thanks very much. My question, if I may, is can I get a robot lawnmower to dock just off the lawn itself? I want the lawnmower to park itself at the side of the lawn so that it's mostly out of sight, and where my boys won't trip over it playing football or running around.
Hi, what type of mower in terms of navigation were you considering? The GPS/RTK will be able to do this. The boundary wire models will depend on the make and model you purchase as all have different requirements when it come to the charging station.
@@EasyLawnMowing so only one problem - money - they can do everything but very expensive
Yes, Husqvarna can, and they are worth the price.
Great review! 👏
Glad you liked it! Many thanks, Mark
I wish you could get the lawnmaster in the US. I need a non-boundary wire, non-gps mower.
Yes the LawnMaster drop and go is a good and cost effective option and popular in the UK. Many of the robotic mower manufacturers are going to be releasing camera guided robotic mowers, over the coming months, so hopefully they will be available in the US too. Thanks
@@EasyLawnMowing vision (150 USD) plus GPS (400 USD - we need good ) is the best solution - so total min 2000-3000 USD good - I think and only electric ( petrol will be forbidden soon in Europe)
My flymo robot mower stopped working straight after the end of the guarantee. Did the straightforward things, battery change and voltage check with multimeter. Website and helpline give a long list of agents but none that I have called (I have called lots) do repairs. So bear in mind you might be replacing it after 3 years. Guess it depends if you think that is good value or not....
Hi, thanks for sharing your experience of the Flymo robotic mower. Could you please share the model? thanks
@@EasyLawnMowing flymo 1200r
Sounds like manufacturer enforced obsolescence. This happens a lot with printers. These shady dealings need to be dealt with legally so manufacturers stop ripping us off.
first Q - are motors moving ? Is screen work ? Cables not cut ? = simple fix or electronic ?
Exactly the thorough overview I'd been looking for. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! many thanks. Mark
Great video. Are there any robotic mowers that can also trim edges against a wall? (I currently use a strimmer)
Also, are any of these suitable for Spanish lawns ?
Most robotic mowers need some trimming, but it depends if the mower can straddle the lawn and the border. They will need to be flat and level so the mower can cut the entire edge. Thanks
Great videos Mark!
Seriously considering the Luba, how good is the quality of cut in appearance, I currently use a Hater rotary with Roller which when cut the grass does look good, for a few days anyway!
Hi, The cut quality is really good as long as you change/turn the blades when they become blunt. I have just changed the blades after nearly 3 months as I noticed the cut was not as clean and it started missing the longer straw grass. Naturally any lawn stripes are not going to last long and the Luba brushes the lawn as opposed to rolling it.
Great video, thank you. My rear lawn is around 1000sqm, but I cant justify spending Luba money. I'm actually considering 3 lawnmaster L10s. 1 for the front lawn of around 200sqm and 2 for the rear lawn, each with their own 500sqm zones.
Do you forsea any issues with running 2 on a single lawn? Provided the boundry wires are correct I don't inagine it being a problem.
Thanks, pleased it was helpful. The only issue with your proposal I can see is where the 2 zones on a single lawn join. You will need to leave a gap between them (creating an uncut lawn), otherwise they will venture into each others zones. I tried this on my front lawn with the WORX range of mowers and I needed to leave a narrow path in between on these zones. I would contact Cleva to confirm with them what gap needs to be left between the 2 perimeter wires.
@@EasyLawnMowing Thank you for your feedback. Thats a good point well made!
Which of these cut in predictable pattern?
Only the GPS (RTK) guided Luba.
easylawnmowing.co.uk/luba-awd-5000-review/
Your reviews are very helpful. Your opinion on other brands would be interesting. Do you have any plans to review entry level or midrange Segway Robotic Lawn Mowers?
I have asked for a demo Segway machine, if I get one I will for sure do a review. Thanks
I'm really liking the Luba especially as the 2 is out now. My only issue is no UK dealer so support or returns may seem crazy. Any thoughts on this as i hate only on-line chat bots that you cant detail the any nuances of a issue.
Yes this is a downside of the Luba here in the UK. For me and others, what you get for your money in terms of functionality and performance, offsets the UK support and returns (but may not be for everyone). Thanks
What tool were you using to install the wire in the lawn?
Please see details here - tidd.ly/3RHYrYm
It's the Peg Driver for Robotic Lawnmowers from LawnMaster
Thanks
Mark
@@EasyLawnMowing Thanks the UK is way ahead on robot lawn mowers. Seems like they are just starting to gain traction in the states. There are allot of companies coming up with GPS units. The boundary wire seems like it would be more of a hassle initially but if done correctly would less likely to have issues later. How smart does it really need to be to mow the grass. That peg tool looks great but not available in the states.
Is the Luba able to cover terrain that is at an angle?
Yes, 75% slope
Hi, yes the Luba can handle inclines up to 75%, see full details here
easylawnmowing.co.uk/luba-awd-5000-review/
Solid review! Though, I have to admit, it's a bit over my budget right now. 😅
Thank you for your feedback! I completely understand-robotic mowers can be quite an investment. If you're looking for more budget-friendly alternatives, there are some great options out there that still offer good performance. If you have any questions or need suggestions for more affordable models, just let me know!
Judging by reviews on Amazon only people seem to be most happy with that Lawnmaster but also would depend on your lawn type, size, obstacles.
Hi, Thanks for your comment.
Yes the LawnMaster mowers a great value, perform well and have a good build quality.
LawnMaster reviews here:-
easylawnmowing.co.uk/category/lawnmaster/
@@EasyLawnMowing I have an update I decided to buy it and has been disastrous. No battery sent, no clips for the wire, not enough wire to cover wbat they claim. Bought 3 weeks ago still cannot use. Company claims I have received everything.
How reliable has the Luba been in your experience? I am seeing mixed reviews on Amazon...including not so good customer service.
Mine has been very reliable for almost a year now. Yes there have been some teething issues with updates but they get sorted quickly and Mammotion are listing. Are you in the UK? There is now a service centre in the UK should you need it. Thanks Mark
Thanks for the review, but I’m still a bit hesitant about the price.
Fair enough! Mark
What if I wanted to use it for business? Recommendations?
Hi, do you intend to supply robotic mowers for business and leave them in operation?
Thank you
Welcome.
What's the cheapest one which doesn't require a perimeter wire?
Are you looking at GPS/RTK or a camera guide robotic mower?
Thanks
Mark
@@EasyLawnMowing Thanks for the reply, I've actually now decided upon the LawnMaster VBRM16 :) Really cheap and simple.
Any discount codes for the luber ?
No discount codes - but you can get £50 discount if you sign up to the Mammotion newsletter.
uk.mammotion.com/?ref=kd2jxen4
Thanks
Mark
Thank you so much !
Thanks, so pleased it was helpful, all the best Mark
As an American, you have me doing a lot of math and conversions over here
Yes good point, I will try to give both types of measurements going forward. Thanks
3:55 i just let mine run into stuff, it does just fine
Thanks for you comment. Buying Boundary Free Wireless Robotic Mowers - easylawnmowing.co.uk/buying-boundary-wireless-robotic-mowers/
Might seem expensive but we bought a new ride on tractor and it was much the same price of the most expensive one in the line up. However the tractor has been nothing but endless problems and constant trips to the servicing centre for repairs. Going forward we will only consider a robot lawn mower and will never touch any ride on machine again, as they are just not worth the money or hassle.
Où trouver votre vidéo en français ?
Sorry no French language available.
To be honest I don’t even own a lawn to get it cut I just think these things are awesome haha
Agree!
thank you for this information
My pleasure
Be wary of just using amp/hours as an indication of battery energy capacity ... the amp/hour rating is only half the story, the other half being voltage. Basically a 2Ah battery at 18V has half the energy (Watt/hours) of a battery that is 2Ah at 36V ... multiply the Amps by the Volts to get the Watts (or in this case Watt/hours). I don't know why tool and garden equipment batteries don't explicitly state the capacity in Watt/hours then you could compare different voltage tools more readily... after all you can get a little AA battery that has 2Ah capacity and it clearly doesn't have the energy capacity of a 2Ah tool battery pack.
Thank you for your insightful comment! You make an excellent point about the importance of considering both amp-hours and voltage when evaluating battery capacity. The watt-hour (Wh) measurement indeed provides a clearer picture of the total energy available in a battery, as it combines both the amp-hour and voltage ratings.
It's true that many manufacturers focus on amp-hours, which can be misleading when comparing batteries of different voltages. By providing the capacity in watt-hours, consumers would have a much easier time making informed decisions about which tools or equipment best meet their energy needs.
Your comparison with AA batteries is a great illustration of how capacity can vary significantly across different battery types. Hopefully, more manufacturers will adopt clearer labeling practices in the future to help consumers better understand battery performance. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic!
Can you run 2 Luba's in a 2 acre yard?
Hi Woody, the 5000 model is suitable for 5000m squared or 1.24 acres. Even this would need to be broken down into zones (max 10), and cut over 7 day period to be efficient and ensure grass is cut at all times. Thanks
None of these collect cuttings so you need to over the lawn again to hoover them up.
No, these robotic mowers will mulch the cutting into small pieces. So no need to collect the cuttings. Thanks
On all these robot lawnmowers one time they tell us they’re good the next time they tell us they’re no good for the price of them. They should be very good.
Thanks
Why on earth would you not want it to mow in the rain?
While some robotic mowers can operate in light rain, it's usually best to allow them to mow when conditions are dry for optimal results. If you have any more questions about robotic mowers or their usage, feel free to ask!
The prices are ridicoulos high
There are some great value robotic mowers on the market. This of the time it will save you!
@@EasyLawnMowing To be hones no of those convienced me. Every robot has some features which the other hasn't. So you will never find a complete solution in one product. And those who comes near to my demands are to expansive in my opinion. It is basically still a lawn mower with a tiny basic computer build in and not a car.
Maybe it needs time when those become a mass product like other electronic gadgets
@@leonlionheart5927they are already. But hey, keep on walking and mowing yourself 😂
@@rodbtelenetbe Yes, I do. So what?
@@leonlionheart5927 👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
uploaded 10 months ago but says best for 2024? nice one
This video guide is designed to help people to choose the best robotic mower in 2024. The technology is still the same and the advice is current, hope this helps to clarify, thanks.
Just waiting for ego power to come out with theirs
Yes, hopefully I will be able to test one when available in the UK.
Thanks Mark
The video is over half way & you havent showed how well they cut the grass. Hmm.. Cya!
There are full reviews of all the robotic mowers shown in this video over on the website - easylawnmowing.co.uk
If you want to be happy, buy a Husqvarna.
Please share more details of your experience of the Husqvarna? thanks
The blades are garbage