Also check this out:- Sinking of Blücher - The Battle of Drobak Sound - ua-cam.com/video/hlBkym_Ky6E/v-deo.html The Channel Dash 1942 - ua-cam.com/video/I6029I0kcLA/v-deo.html The Saint Nazaire Raid - ua-cam.com/video/dyjeRWWbUns/v-deo.html Operation Ten-Go Sinking of Battleship Yamato Part - 1 - ua-cam.com/video/T2M2noNx3OI/v-deo.html The Wake Island 1941 - ua-cam.com/video/Xiy02U0zg0k/v-deo.html
@@JOECURR1488uhhhhhhh ...care to elaborate of you just gonna leave us hanging? Cos like ...the Nazis were pretty evil, dont know if you know that or not
My uncle, Irwin Stewart, was serving on the Archerfish at the time. Hes actually mentioned in the book being the first to visually spot the shinano, after being picked up by radar first.
It's something of an exaggeration to say Shinano would have tipped the balance in any way. Even completed she was designed as a support carrier for the other carriers with a relatively small air group of her own. Japan had neither the fuel nor the pilots at this stage of the war for a viable carrier force.
You beat me to it. After Midway and Guadalcanal, Japan lost the cream of its navy pilots, and they could not replace them fast enough. Besides, America's industrial capacity could turn out dozens of combat ships, planes, tanks, etc for every one Japan could produce--And technically superior.The war-hawks were so full of their corrupted Bushido propaganda they could not comprehend that we would never, ever quit, no matter the cost. They thought they could cow us with their so-called martial spirit, but that ended up in their troops and pilots dying in the thousands running into a rain of steel.
I agree. At the time Shinano was sunk, the USN had 14 fleet carriers, 9 light carriers, and 67 escort carriers. Together they could operate well over 2000 aircraft. Shinano wouldn’t have made any difference against that, even if it had been completed as a fleet carrier, which it wasn’t.
@@MrNatWhilk - Correct. And in addition, the Shinano Carrier Air Group consisted of only about 50 aircraft. Even if the IJN had a dozen Shinano Class carriers, it would not have been enough. And they lacked the experienced aircrew to operate them.
Didn't they say that the Japanese "hoped" it would tip the balance? I totally agree that was complete nonsense, but that was not the creator's opinion. Even if Japan could have built 10 such carriers, it wouldn't have mattered. They didn't have the pilots to man the carriers and probably not enough planes either.
There was zero chance that Shinano would have made a significant difference in the outcome of the war. The IJN was critically short of fuel. And try googling how many Essex class carriers were constructed during the war.
Being what was happening to them it was just a last chance move to help bring atleast one carrier back after the loss of the it flagship carriers at midway
Commander Enright co-authored a book after the war, titled "Shinano!'. Ir covers the respective stories of Shinano and Archer Fish up to that encounter, their captains and the aftermath. By his own admission, Enright was a competent, but not brilliant, sub commander, but he and his crew did everything right. Worth reading.
Indeed, he was ridiculed and disbelieved when he reported the sinking of HIJMS Shinano and its size, only to be subsequently proven to be totally correct, credited with its sinking and decorated.
@@harryricochet8134 By his book, the USN initially thought he might have sunk a cruiser, as they had radio intercepts saying that "Shinano" had sunk. Note that "Shinano" is the name of both a river AND a province in Japan - most IJN cruisers were named after rivers, and battleships after provinces. But Enwright made several drawings of Shinano during the chase. He'd then thrown them away, but a thoughtful Chief PO (who knew that, in the Navy, you NEVER threw stuff away) had carefully preserved those drawings. When those drawings were show to Enwright's superiors, certain details, such as the fine clipper bow, led them to realize that this had to be the 'missing' Yamato battleship they had always suspected of existing. Even then, in the original commendation for USS Archer Fish, they underestimated Shinano's tonnage by almost 50%. And so it goes. :)
Btw, on a subsequent cruise, USS Archer Fish's second most noteworthy "kill" was a submarine operated by the Imperial Japanese ARMY. I kid you not. The Imperial Japanese Army built and ran several submarines - kept in secret from their hated rivals in the Navy. They were used for commando and re-supply missions.
@@7thsealord888 Ha! Now that I did not know, which is interesting as that veil of secrecy from the IJA's greatest enemy seems to have persisted long after all others pertaining to their endeavours against external enemies have fallen. In its detriment, I've thought that interservice rivalry (hatred) to be akin to a third front for some years now.
@@harryricochet8134 Indeed. I have heard it said, and tend to agree, that with all the (lack of) cooperation between the IJA and IJN, they ,might as well have been fighting for different countries. And not necessarily on the same side, at that. :) That rivalry / emnity certainly was a major impediment to Imperial Japan. Another was their downright incompetent cryptographical (coding) practices. Whilst they could be pretty good at cracking Allied codes, they never seem to quite grasp the idea that the Allies actually had people who could read and write Japanese.
There were three significant flaws in this: 1. As others have said, the Shinano never rushed the Archerfish. It's more likely the Shinano didn't know where the sub was and was being evasive. 2. US forces didn't attack from Guam during the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The Japanese still controlled the Marianas. Some US pilots took a detour and attacked the Marianas bases while waiting for the orders to attack the Japanese fleet. 3. It's more of an opinion, but finishing this carrier wouldn't have had any real effect on the war, contrary to what you said at the beginning. The Japanese had almost no production of important resources like oil, steel, aluminum, coal, or rubber (one of the driving factors of their expansion), and they had limited reserves remaining. The US was bombing Japanese factories regularly. The Japanese lost almost their entire trained pilot corps at Midway. A carrier without aircraft and skilled pilots is nearly useless.
It's always been puzzling why content creators are so lazy with the accuracy of their content. This is WWII history, some of the most preserved memories in recorded time.
The Shinano as big as she was would not even came close to tipping the war back to Japan at this point in the war. The vast majority of Japan's best trained pilots were dead by this point. If Shinano would have gone to sea it would be with mainly inexperienced pilots and aging aircraft. Great video and good information. It was not until after the war that the Archerfish Shinano kill was confirmed. The US had very little information on the Yamato class and that included the Shinano that was converted to a carrier. PJ
Also for its size it wouldn't have carried very many operational aircraft. They ended up making it more into a carrier to carry replacement aircraft. But by that time there weren't any other carriers for it to support.
The U.S. built just over 150 aircraft carriers of which 122 were smaller escort carriers. Shinano wasn’t going to be much help against that volume of production.
As the situation on Shinano began to deteriorate, Abe intended to order “All civilians to the flight deck” but in the panic actually said “All hands to the flight deck”. On most carriers there was just one main passage way but on the Shinano there were two. The crew had received little training on evacuation drills and the routes up to the flight deck so his mistake saved many lives.
Simple and informative! I’ve always wanted to know more about this underrated “runt of the litter” Yamato-Class giant. Can’t wait for Operation Ten-Go part two.
I remember reading a history that said Archerfish reported sinking an unknown carrier, because she couldn’t ID it based on their onboard guides. Luckily the Captain saved a sketch he made of the ship when trying to ID it, and when he returned to port, the signature ‘clipper bow’ of the Yamato-class battleships in the sketch enabled the Navy to ID her.
If the Americans had a picture of Shinano, why then did they refuse to believe Capt. Enright when he claimed to have torpedoed a massive carrier? I've never heard anything before the US had seen the ship. The US knew the Japanese were building another ship but were unaware it was converted from battleship to carrier. Enright didn't get credit for sinking Shinano until after the war and only because Japanese records confirmed what he claimed.
Indeed, that's the version of events I'd read. I've never before heard of there being reconnaissance images of the Shinano prior to its sinking. Perhaps these were only subsequently retrieved once post-war review of IJN records proved its existence and that Enright was telling the truth. Given the overall poor standard of accuracy of this clip I'm sticking with the previously known version of events here lol.
I think the American Desk Jockeys maintained their highest stupidity levels for soooo long that it was easy for them to continue their long string of hitless at-bats. American Brass and HQ idiocy was - fortunately - only outdone by Japanese and German counterparts. The bigger idiots lost.
I liked most of the video, but Shinano didnt “turn towards the sub to end the engagement once and for all”, it was executing evasive zig-zags. It wouldn’t make sense for a CV to rush a sub.
Except it literally did turn towards the submarine. It was not an accident or executing a zigzag maneuver to attempt to dodge torpedoes. So the video is correct. Abe had the location of the submarine due to it being spotted earlier and still on the surface. He couldn't outrun the submarine due to the mechanical issues and was over confident in the Shinano's ability to withstand a torpedo attack from a US submarine.
@@taoofjester4113 In what world does that make sense. “Oh I can’t outrun it, so I’m going to rush it”? The CV had no anti-submarine weapons. Moving away would provide time to evade torpedos, and rushing only serves to increase chances of getting sunk.
@@taoofjester4113 source? US Naval Institute says Abe was executing evasive maneuvers, and never mentions him intentionally rushing the sub. Show me a source saying he intentionally rushed the sub.
Wow! What a lucky find to come across this channel so early in its journey! Can’t get enough of these war animation channels and videos, this was great work mate! Keep up the great work, I’ll do my small part in liking, commenting, and sharing videos like this one to help out in some way. You’ll hit 100K subs in no time brother, God speed !
Good video but the Shinano would not have shifted the balance of power, mainly because they were already not able to fill the needs of existing carriers with pilots and planes. More flight desks, even very large ones, were impotent without competent air crews
8:19 ... in a curious coincidence, the Hamakaze, Isokaze, and Yukikaze were all present for the sinking of all three Yamato-class ships -- the Musashi (at Leyte Gulf), the Shinano, and finally the Yamato herself in April 1945 (the Yukikaze being the only one of the three to survive Yamato's "last ride" ...)
Tbh the biggest major difference between USAN and IJN was damage control training. Everyone on the us boats were trained in damage control. The ijn on the other hand only had certain people trained for it and they were the only ones who could do it or give directions on doing it. That’s why the death tolls for them naval wise was much high than the usan
And the IJN's death toll of experts were a total result of their propoganda. No Japanese expert in anything wanted to be left on-shore, say, in January, 1942 when manning Pacific battle fleets. That's why Japan's air-maintenance experts lost so many in those opening months - their most senior experts followed propoganda and used their superiority to demand 'first seats' on ships going into battle.
The Shinano was not going to "tip the balance" of naval power back in Japan's favor. From December 7, 1941 onwards, lapan was goin to lose. Also, it should be pointed out that the area Labeled in the map at 1:19 labeled as empire of japan, was actually Chinese territory recently taken by brute military force by Japan.
The Pacific war is incredible; especially how its 80 years ago and airpower ruled the theater. For the first time air was decisive, the tech arms race and the training on newer and newer war machines. B-29s, Corsairs, Hellcats didn't exist at war's outbreak.
an unremarkable captain with an unremarkable career up until this point destroys the Empire of Japan's last great hope....almost sounds like a story to a fictional movie, but completely true
Another fun point - Japan always demanded or commanded that all ships were being attacked by huge wolfpacks and battle fleets when in fact American coordination at-sea were hampered or ruined by 'demands for radio silence'. Every ships returning from completed missions were torpedoed and left to add hundreds to sea-deaths in the name of 'radio silence' to protect - uh - nothing. -signed, USS Indianapolis.
the Imperial Navy and Army defeated themselves..jealousies..and overblown attitudes of their might, but more importantly not listening to Yammatto sage advice that they awoke a 'sleeping giant'..anyways..great video and am sure you will continue to grow in subs/views...WW2 history is a hot topic with many content providers...
After 40 years of reading, and talking to Pac War vets (including HQ brass political-types), I still don't believe I have a good understanding of how deep and horrible the Army v. Navy rivalry was. I imagine in the 1500s, the Army's cab service (Navy, responsible for taking armies around islands) sometimes did leave armies on the shore, pinned down and to be slaughtered. Other times, the ships couldn't move sufficient supplies or to correct locations (apparently, the accuracy of GPS in 1500-1800 Japan wasn't particulary accurate). But then the navies pulling into ports to extract or deliver armies would get trapped by their opponent's ships. I am sure there were plenty of tit-for-tat slaughters with fingerpointing to create the 1930's rivalries. I think Japan's puny natural resources that have growing demands from Army v. Navy hunger was another factor. The Army made Euro visits to France, German and England from the 1870s on, and both sides favored one country that the other side despised. That Army, by the way, had to use the Japanese Navy 'taxi service' to get them to and fro. I'll bet THAT went over well, too. "The General's seasick!" "Gee, our Admiral isn't! Your general must be puny and weak." wheeee...
Shinano never tried to attack the sub, she first tried to outrun the sub (which she could easily have done if she’d had completed engines, given that her half-sisters were designed for 27 knots and exceeded 28 knots on trials), and when that failed she tried to resort to (counterproductive) evasive maneuvers. Also, Shinano was so horribly designed (even outside of being incomplete) that she was effectively worthless-for all the grief Yamato and Musashi get for being useless, in their case that had much more to do with the fact battleships as a whole were strategically superfluous and wasteful by that point (something that also applies to Allied and other Axis battleships built around that time), while Shinano really was a case of Japan doing something dumb that nobody else did. It should also be noted that Shinano was probably never going to be finished as a battleship even without Midway-as early as Mid-December 1941, the Japanese were considering completing her only just enough to be launched (so the drydock that built her could be used to build other things) and then abandoning her.
@@lessronishere7540 you may want to evaluate why he doesn’t even bother to respond after 4 days. 😂🤣 Go read my other reply to you and you should figure it out. Notice what this commenter discusses. He writes a long analysis about a time period in 1944 which is totally irrelevant. Stick to 1942. It’s the only time period that mattered. Midway is indeed the most popular discussion of the Pacific War of WW2. Yes? He goes on to mislead yet again about Yamato or Musashi being useless battleships but that in reality is due to the stupidity of IJN leadership. There was nothing wrong with those battleships in 1942 had they been used properly. Heck even the US used battleship and or heavy cruisers to bombard the shores in the Atlantic War for DDay. So why do so many commenters unethically shy away from better utilization of the IJN battleships. I’ve had many debates with BKJeong and absolutely destroyed him and he knows it but yet he still unethically makes misleading comments. Let’s see how different you are. You agree with him Battleships were useless? Careful what you say. Don’t make a fool of yourself. Better do your research.
Shinano had the speed to outrun the Archerfish. A propeller shaft bearing started over heating. She had to slow down until the bearing would run cool enough not to damage the bearing or the shaft. It was then that the Archerfish could keep track of her.
FDR's address to Congress was not to announce that there was war with Japan, but to ask the Congress for a declaration of war, because the US Congress is tasked with the duty to declare war under Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution.
You seriously mischarcterize the turn Shinano made due south by saying 'to put an end to the engagement'. I recommend watching Historygraph's video on this encounter. A tad more detailed than claiming a carrier force rushed straight at a submarine to put an end to the engagement.
Thanks for this, I'm a submarine fan (from UK but my favourite was the Asiatic Pacific Campaign the US engaged in amongst other allies there) and this hit was an important one :-y
Huh. Didn’t know the Yamato’s Ten-Go escorts were with Shinano… Also it should be noted Shinano was basically meant to be a logistics ship. She was never supposed to be a frontline carrier.
Nevermind I’m hardly 10 seconds in and suddenly we’ve abandoned reality and a single large carrier completed in late 1944 is “threatening to tip the balance back in japan’s favor” I understand dramatization but the days of the IJN standing toe to toe with the U.S. fleet alone is long past by this point. The war has devastated the Japanese navy and even were Shinano to put to sea, she would have met the exact same fate as all the other carriers of the Japanese carrier force. Her air group destroyed and the ship sunk. By this point in the war it would have been more impressive if she had any air crew at all, so hard pressed had the Japanese become for pilots
I'm sorry about Pearl Harbor attacked. My country Japan was faulted. Japanese actor Shoki Fukae(1928 - 2015) was crew in the Shinano.He is lucky. He is survived and long time alived.
Let's not get too carried away with they hype. That one ship wasn't going to tip the balance of sea power. By that time Japan was on a slow and steady retreat. That said, it was still a terrific shot by Archerfish.
The only complaint I have on this video is that some of the jumping back and forth between the earlier and later dates and events gets a bit confusing. A more linear narrative might work better, with only a few jumps ahead that are worded as to make it clear exactly where the cuts to and back are.
Good video, but Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around. The US declared war on Japan as a result of the Pearl Harbor attack. Germany and Italy declared war on the US on December 11th as they were obligated to under the Tripartite Pact, aka Axis Alliance or Berlin Pact. Keep up the wonderful work and thank you!
Its still amaze me how we know Shinano capacity was 50ish planes. Wasnt tha the mount of planes she carried when she sunk?. We literally dont have any official documents stating how much planes she could carry assambled or dissasembled.
0:25 That's the pre-1801 UK flag. YOU FAIL IT! When the sub captain reported it they said he was mental, the Japs had no carriers left so it must have been an oil tanker and he was closer than he thought.
I dont see it. As many others have pointed out in this comment section, there are a handful of severe mistakes in this video that should have not made the final cut. Said mistakes would not even quailfy as bad research, as nothing of the sort is written in any sources, they are straight up misinformation/clickbait/fabrication. They are made up. This is a severe quality issue. Unless future videos improve on quality and become more historically accurate, this channel will not reach a status similar to the Operations Room. The graphics are awesome, some of the best I have ever seen here on UA-cam, but as long as facts are wrong/exaggerated/twisted, this channel is not great.
I just wish someone would find the wrec lol f IJN Shinano , she should be the most intact Yamato class shipwreck as she didn’t suffer any magazine explosion like Yamato and Musashi. I’m surprised no one has found her yet.
It’s coordinates were (33°07′N 137°04′E), 65 miles (105 km) from the nearest land, in approximately 4,000 meters (13,000 ft) of water. Depending on her angle, speed and direction of decent, currents, coupled with how much she might have broken up - this would leave a very large area to search.
Did the treaty limit the tonnage world wide or just in the Pacific? Because the US and Britan would need more since they have the Atlantic to worry about and Japan only has the Pacific.
If you insist on padding the video with backstory, get the backstory right. Declaring war is the prerogative of the US Congress, so FDR did not declare war on either Japan, Germany, or Italy.
Every time I consider the amazing efforts of our Submariners throughout the war, I always wonder what would be different if our torpedoes had been able to properly detonate upon target contact? Makes one wonder if someone made the parts inferior by design to allow the war to extend.
it would have been a slaughter and our politicians wanted this war. They knew japan was going to attack pearl. This was the 2nd installment of the federal reserve becoming rich of tax payers and exercising ways to expand in taking over other economies. Woodrow Wilson should burn in hell for what he did to the US.
It was due to how the U.S. economy was during the market crash. Torpedoes were expensive at the time, and live-fire testing would destroy said torpedoes, so no live-fire tests were conducted on the Mark XIV due to costs.
@@darkdill I see your point, back then a torpedo cost as much as a Hellcat fighter so they weren’t cheap since each one was hand made and parts couldn’t just be easily interchangeable. That said, if the torpedoes were malfunctioning then it would be a complete waste and any reasonable minded Commander would demand the issue be looked into immediately because risking the lives of the sub crews, not to mention possibly losing the sub as it’s torpedoes bounce off the enemy ships they then have to deal with depth charge attacks and many of our subs didn’t make it out as a result. So my inclination on the issue is that they knew this was an issue but didn’t push it to be addressed with an urgency. Remember, we knew our oil embargo would provoke the Japanese and we knew they were planning to hit Pearl Harbor which is why both of our aircraft carriers were out doing “training” while the rest of the fleet was in harbor. We could have crippled the Japanese by sinking their troop ships and everything else since they rely solely on ships to move the bulk of their logistics. But instead, we wanted the threat to grow so it would justify the construction of numerous aircraft and tank factories. Since it would pull our economy out of the dumpster and make certain people very wealthy. Just my opinion though.
@@echohunter4199 There's zero empirical evidence whatsoever to sustain your utterly ridiculous claim that there was specific foreknowledge of Japanese intent to attack Pearl Harbor much less that any such knowledge was so detailed as to result in the aircraft carries being deliberately deployed whilst the remainder of the fleet was permitted to be destroyed. If indeed that were the case FDR would be viewed as a traitor as would anyone involved in such a scheme for which zero evidence has ever been found. Such a claim is patent revisionist conspirobabble garbage retrospectively manufactured by ignorant individuals in an attempt to make themselves appear informed albeit only to the most ignorant of listeners. Your 'opinions' are not only not founded upon a shred of actual empirically sourced evidence rather than in total contradiction of this and therefore merely testament to your own abject ignorance of the subject at issue. The Kriegsmarine had a similar issue with the effectiveness of their torpedoes primarily due to the very same reason of cost with both this and the similar issue with the reliability of US torpedoes being widely known, studied and never found by any empirical analysis to be due to some conspirobabble policy you have posited without a shred of evidence. If you have even a modicum of respect for those who gave their lives in WW2 you should in the very least respect the fundamental tenets of historic custodianship rather than disseminate such utter rubbish and blatant lies and in so doing take a giant crap on the true circumstances of their sacrifice merely in order to prop up your own fragile ego and conceal your abject intellectual laziness. SMH.
Yea, that's a bit of a dramatic opening. That one Japanese "super" carrier wasn't going to tip the balance of power back to the Japanese. They may of had a super carrier, but by 1944 they didn't have enough experienced pilots. Even the kamikazes weren't going to stop the United States.
I take exception to the word "heroic" to describe the efforts of the Japanese sailors after the ship had been hit. As a historical channel, the creators of this video should be aware of the whitewashing that Japan has done about it's actions in WWII. That is alarming enough all by itself without historical channels being careless applying such words in these videos. I would think that the word "desperate" would have been a much better choice for the script writer here and I would go as far to suggest you change it.
I did not hear anything about the aircrews. At this time of the war, Japan did not have the pilots , especially with enough experiance to fight against the allies
The Japanese ARMY felt insulted by that 1925 treaty which actually negate much of the Japan-Russo war gains by the Japanese Army - they had to give much of that territory back. So the Japanese Army had reasons to be angry towards the Conference as a whole. But actually, they were not a participant in these naval negotiations. The Japanese Navy was, and this was the bigger insult to the Imperial Army - their 'cab drivers' were invited, they weren't! But the IJN knew about ship construction and costs, and facilities. The Japanese Army did not. They knew how to assemble a rifle, but were completely unaware of ship construction. The Army could build buildings and a factory bu their Navy had been learning how to build cities and shipyards. Japan's 3:5:5 ratio was recognized as a limitation, but Britain was going to spend most of their "5" ships covering the Atlantic and Indian Ocean. The Americans, too, would allocate 3 or even 4 ships to the Atlantic and Pacific Coastlines. The Philippines were seen a drain on their resources, and that's why giving the Japanese control of post WWI German islands (the Marianas, etc) was a good thing, to the Americans.
Also check this out:-
Sinking of Blücher - The Battle of Drobak Sound - ua-cam.com/video/hlBkym_Ky6E/v-deo.html
The Channel Dash 1942 - ua-cam.com/video/I6029I0kcLA/v-deo.html
The Saint Nazaire Raid - ua-cam.com/video/dyjeRWWbUns/v-deo.html
Operation Ten-Go Sinking of Battleship Yamato Part - 1 - ua-cam.com/video/T2M2noNx3OI/v-deo.html
The Wake Island 1941 - ua-cam.com/video/Xiy02U0zg0k/v-deo.html
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@@JOECURR1488uhhhhhhh ...care to elaborate of you just gonna leave us hanging?
Cos like ...the Nazis were pretty evil, dont know if you know that or not
Has to go down as one of the oddest comments i have ever seen
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My uncle, Irwin Stewart, was serving on the Archerfish at the time. Hes actually mentioned in the book being the first to visually spot the shinano, after being picked up by radar first.
With no major fires and no magazines to explode, after sinking she could be amazingly intact on the bottom. Hope she is found and explored one day.
corrosion
Good chance china already dredged her up for scrap like tons of other ship wrecks in the pacfic.
@@Loli4lyfhence the phrase "amazingly intact"
bull shit. Large ships are often ripped to pieces due to the physics of sinking. Something they were not designed to due.
@@rfarevalobro is ignoring every well preserved wreck
It's something of an exaggeration to say Shinano would have tipped the balance in any way. Even completed she was designed as a support carrier for the other carriers with a relatively small air group of her own. Japan had neither the fuel nor the pilots at this stage of the war for a viable carrier force.
You beat me to it. After Midway and Guadalcanal, Japan lost the cream of its navy pilots, and they could not replace them fast enough. Besides, America's industrial capacity could turn out dozens of combat ships, planes, tanks, etc for every one Japan could produce--And technically superior.The war-hawks were so full of their corrupted Bushido propaganda they could not comprehend that we would never, ever quit, no matter the cost. They thought they could cow us with their so-called martial spirit, but that ended up in their troops and pilots dying in the thousands running into a rain of steel.
I agree. At the time Shinano was sunk, the USN had 14 fleet carriers, 9 light carriers, and 67 escort carriers. Together they could operate well over 2000 aircraft. Shinano wouldn’t have made any difference against that, even if it had been completed as a fleet carrier, which it wasn’t.
@@MrNatWhilk - Correct. And in addition, the Shinano Carrier Air Group consisted of only about 50 aircraft. Even if the IJN had a dozen Shinano Class carriers, it would not have been enough. And they lacked the experienced aircrew to operate them.
Didn't they say that the Japanese "hoped" it would tip the balance? I totally agree that was complete nonsense, but that was not the creator's opinion. Even if Japan could have built 10 such carriers, it wouldn't have mattered. They didn't have the pilots to man the carriers and probably not enough planes either.
@@canuck_gamer3359 - And they would have lacked the fuel for these ships.
There was zero chance that Shinano would have made a significant difference in the outcome of the war. The IJN was critically short of fuel. And try googling how many Essex class carriers were constructed during the war.
One every 3 weeks.I think,could be wrong
@@anthonycaruso8443 wouldn't be surprised
Being what was happening to them it was just a last chance move to help bring atleast one carrier back after the loss of the it flagship carriers at midway
"Zero chance" pun intended?
Its called Japanese cope.
Very well done! I suggest reading Captain Enright's book "Shinano!" if you want a more in-depth coverage of this encounter.
Commander Enright co-authored a book after the war, titled "Shinano!'. Ir covers the respective stories of Shinano and Archer Fish up to that encounter, their captains and the aftermath. By his own admission, Enright was a competent, but not brilliant, sub commander, but he and his crew did everything right. Worth reading.
Indeed, he was ridiculed and disbelieved when he reported the sinking of HIJMS Shinano and its size, only to be subsequently proven to be totally correct, credited with its sinking and decorated.
@@harryricochet8134 By his book, the USN initially thought he might have sunk a cruiser, as they had radio intercepts saying that "Shinano" had sunk. Note that "Shinano" is the name of both a river AND a province in Japan - most IJN cruisers were named after rivers, and battleships after provinces. But Enwright made several drawings of Shinano during the chase. He'd then thrown them away, but a thoughtful Chief PO (who knew that, in the Navy, you NEVER threw stuff away) had carefully preserved those drawings.
When those drawings were show to Enwright's superiors, certain details, such as the fine clipper bow, led them to realize that this had to be the 'missing' Yamato battleship they had always suspected of existing. Even then, in the original commendation for USS Archer Fish, they underestimated Shinano's tonnage by almost 50%. And so it goes. :)
Btw, on a subsequent cruise, USS Archer Fish's second most noteworthy "kill" was a submarine operated by the Imperial Japanese ARMY.
I kid you not. The Imperial Japanese Army built and ran several submarines - kept in secret from their hated rivals in the Navy. They were used for commando and re-supply missions.
@@7thsealord888 Ha! Now that I did not know, which is interesting as that veil of secrecy from the IJA's greatest enemy seems to have persisted long after all others pertaining to their endeavours against external enemies have fallen. In its detriment, I've thought that interservice rivalry (hatred) to be akin to a third front for some years now.
@@harryricochet8134 Indeed. I have heard it said, and tend to agree, that with all the (lack of) cooperation between the IJA and IJN, they ,might as well have been fighting for different countries. And not necessarily on the same side, at that. :)
That rivalry / emnity certainly was a major impediment to Imperial Japan. Another was their downright incompetent cryptographical (coding) practices. Whilst they could be pretty good at cracking Allied codes, they never seem to quite grasp the idea that the Allies actually had people who could read and write Japanese.
There were three significant flaws in this:
1. As others have said, the Shinano never rushed the Archerfish. It's more likely the Shinano didn't know where the sub was and was being evasive.
2. US forces didn't attack from Guam during the Battle of the Philippine Sea. The Japanese still controlled the Marianas. Some US pilots took a detour and attacked the Marianas bases while waiting for the orders to attack the Japanese fleet.
3. It's more of an opinion, but finishing this carrier wouldn't have had any real effect on the war, contrary to what you said at the beginning. The Japanese had almost no production of important resources like oil, steel, aluminum, coal, or rubber (one of the driving factors of their expansion), and they had limited reserves remaining. The US was bombing Japanese factories regularly. The Japanese lost almost their entire trained pilot corps at Midway. A carrier without aircraft and skilled pilots is nearly useless.
i looked for comments like this after realising the vid was mostly bs
back then when they had to dogfight their enemies instead of detecting each other with radar hundreds of kilometers away and fire a missile
It's always been puzzling why content creators are so lazy with the accuracy of their content. This is WWII history, some of the most preserved memories in recorded time.
The Shinano as big as she was would not even came close to tipping the war back to Japan at this point in the war. The vast majority of Japan's best trained pilots were dead by this point. If Shinano would have gone to sea it would be with mainly inexperienced pilots and aging aircraft. Great video and good information. It was not until after the war that the Archerfish Shinano kill was confirmed. The US had very little information on the Yamato class and that included the Shinano that was converted to a carrier. PJ
Also for its size it wouldn't have carried very many operational aircraft. They ended up making it more into a carrier to carry replacement aircraft. But by that time there weren't any other carriers for it to support.
The U.S. built just over 150 aircraft carriers of which 122 were smaller escort carriers.
Shinano wasn’t going to be much help against that volume of production.
I agree. I laughed when I heard the part about tipping the war. We had the bomb, so nothing would have changed the outcome.
I wonder if fighting Japan 🇯🇵 so hard was worth it … all those dead Americans …
@@treystephens6166they known they was going down, they just wanted to bleed the enemy until then.
As the situation on Shinano began to deteriorate, Abe intended to order “All civilians to the flight deck” but in the panic actually said “All hands to the flight deck”. On most carriers there was just one main passage way but on the Shinano there were two. The crew had received little training on evacuation drills and the routes up to the flight deck so his mistake saved many lives.
Your maps and graphics are excellent. The narration, content, well done!
Thank you very much!
@@TheWarline Thank you!
Simple and informative! I’ve always wanted to know more about this underrated “runt of the litter” Yamato-Class giant. Can’t wait for Operation Ten-Go part two.
I remember reading a history that said Archerfish reported sinking an unknown carrier, because she couldn’t ID it based on their onboard guides. Luckily the Captain saved a sketch he made of the ship when trying to ID it, and when he returned to port, the signature ‘clipper bow’ of the Yamato-class battleships in the sketch enabled the Navy to ID her.
If the Americans had a picture of Shinano, why then did they refuse to believe Capt. Enright when he claimed to have torpedoed a massive carrier? I've never heard anything before the US had seen the ship. The US knew the Japanese were building another ship but were unaware it was converted from battleship to carrier. Enright didn't get credit for sinking Shinano until after the war and only because Japanese records confirmed what he claimed.
Indeed, that's the version of events I'd read. I've never before heard of there being reconnaissance images of the Shinano prior to its sinking. Perhaps these were only subsequently retrieved once post-war review of IJN records proved its existence and that Enright was telling the truth. Given the overall poor standard of accuracy of this clip I'm sticking with the previously known version of events here lol.
I think the American Desk Jockeys maintained their highest stupidity levels for soooo long that it was easy for them to continue their long string of hitless at-bats. American Brass and HQ idiocy was - fortunately - only outdone by Japanese and German counterparts. The bigger idiots lost.
I liked most of the video, but Shinano didnt “turn towards the sub to end the engagement once and for all”, it was executing evasive zig-zags. It wouldn’t make sense for a CV to rush a sub.
That had me scratching my head as well.
Operations room goated
Except it literally did turn towards the submarine. It was not an accident or executing a zigzag maneuver to attempt to dodge torpedoes.
So the video is correct. Abe had the location of the submarine due to it being spotted earlier and still on the surface. He couldn't outrun the submarine due to the mechanical issues and was over confident in the Shinano's ability to withstand a torpedo attack from a US submarine.
@@taoofjester4113 In what world does that make sense. “Oh I can’t outrun it, so I’m going to rush it”? The CV had no anti-submarine weapons. Moving away would provide time to evade torpedos, and rushing only serves to increase chances of getting sunk.
@@taoofjester4113 source? US Naval Institute says Abe was executing evasive maneuvers, and never mentions him intentionally rushing the sub. Show me a source saying he intentionally rushed the sub.
Wow! What a lucky find to come across this channel so early in its journey! Can’t get enough of these war animation channels and videos, this was great work mate! Keep up the great work, I’ll do my small part in liking, commenting, and sharing videos like this one to help out in some way. You’ll hit 100K subs in no time brother, God speed !
Thank you
Good video but the Shinano would not have shifted the balance of power, mainly because they were already not able to fill the needs of existing carriers with pilots and planes. More flight desks, even very large ones, were impotent without competent air crews
8:19 ... in a curious coincidence, the Hamakaze, Isokaze, and Yukikaze were all present for the sinking of all three Yamato-class ships -- the Musashi (at Leyte Gulf), the Shinano, and finally the Yamato herself in April 1945 (the Yukikaze being the only one of the three to survive Yamato's "last ride" ...)
Kinda makes ya wonder about seeing that manifest and double-blinking on the accompanists, eh? "Hello, life insurer? I wanna increase mine."
Tbh the biggest major difference between USAN and IJN was damage control training. Everyone on the us boats were trained in damage control. The ijn on the other hand only had certain people trained for it and they were the only ones who could do it or give directions on doing it. That’s why the death tolls for them naval wise was much high than the usan
And the IJN's death toll of experts were a total result of their propoganda. No Japanese expert in anything wanted to be left on-shore, say, in January, 1942 when manning Pacific battle fleets. That's why Japan's air-maintenance experts lost so many in those opening months - their most senior experts followed propoganda and used their superiority to demand 'first seats' on ships going into battle.
Doolittle wasn't a "lieutenant," he was a Lieutenant General as it says under his picture.
The Shinano was not going to "tip the balance" of naval power back in Japan's favor. From December 7, 1941 onwards, lapan was goin to lose.
Also, it should be pointed out that the area Labeled in the map at 1:19 labeled as empire of japan, was actually Chinese territory recently taken by brute military force by Japan.
The Pacific war is incredible; especially how its 80 years ago and airpower ruled the theater. For the first time air was decisive, the tech arms race and the training on newer and newer war machines. B-29s, Corsairs, Hellcats didn't exist at war's outbreak.
There's a military romance surrounding the physical transformation of a past supreme weapon into the supreme naval platform of the future.
an unremarkable captain with an unremarkable career up until this point destroys the Empire of Japan's last great hope....almost sounds like a story to a fictional movie, but completely true
Another fun point - Japan always demanded or commanded that all ships were being attacked by huge wolfpacks and battle fleets when in fact American coordination at-sea were hampered or ruined by 'demands for radio silence'. Every ships returning from completed missions were torpedoed and left to add hundreds to sea-deaths in the name of 'radio silence' to protect - uh - nothing. -signed, USS Indianapolis.
A real shame this carrier, Yamato and the I-400 submarines got wasted.
If anyone is a fan of Godzilla Minus One, the Destroyer 'Yukikaze' which was escorting the Shinano, is shown in the movie as the primary command ship.
Absolutely wonderful video! I love your graphics and your information. Keep up the great work on this amazing channel!
Thank you so much!
the Imperial Navy and Army defeated themselves..jealousies..and overblown attitudes of their might, but more importantly not listening to Yammatto sage advice that they awoke a 'sleeping giant'..anyways..great video and am sure you will continue to grow in subs/views...WW2 history is a hot topic with many content providers...
After 40 years of reading, and talking to Pac War vets (including HQ brass political-types), I still don't believe I have a good understanding of how deep and horrible the Army v. Navy rivalry was. I imagine in the 1500s, the Army's cab service (Navy, responsible for taking armies around islands) sometimes did leave armies on the shore, pinned down and to be slaughtered. Other times, the ships couldn't move sufficient supplies or to correct locations (apparently, the accuracy of GPS in 1500-1800 Japan wasn't particulary accurate). But then the navies pulling into ports to extract or deliver armies would get trapped by their opponent's ships. I am sure there were plenty of tit-for-tat slaughters with fingerpointing to create the 1930's rivalries. I think Japan's puny natural resources that have growing demands from Army v. Navy hunger was another factor. The Army made Euro visits to France, German and England from the 1870s on, and both sides favored one country that the other side despised. That Army, by the way, had to use the Japanese Navy 'taxi service' to get them to and fro. I'll bet THAT went over well, too. "The General's seasick!" "Gee, our Admiral isn't! Your general must be puny and weak." wheeee...
The Shimano was a irrational response to an ever decaying military situation it had zero chance of tipping the scale and favor of Japan.
Every video you release, I always get excited. Keep up the great work!
Glad to hear it!
Why is the algorithm not pushing this
Shinano never tried to attack the sub, she first tried to outrun the sub (which she could easily have done if she’d had completed engines, given that her half-sisters were designed for 27 knots and exceeded 28 knots on trials), and when that failed she tried to resort to (counterproductive) evasive maneuvers.
Also, Shinano was so horribly designed (even outside of being incomplete) that she was effectively worthless-for all the grief Yamato and Musashi get for being useless, in their case that had much more to do with the fact battleships as a whole were strategically superfluous and wasteful by that point (something that also applies to Allied and other Axis battleships built around that time), while Shinano really was a case of Japan doing something dumb that nobody else did.
It should also be noted that Shinano was probably never going to be finished as a battleship even without Midway-as early as Mid-December 1941, the Japanese were considering completing her only just enough to be launched (so the drydock that built her could be used to build other things) and then abandoning her.
You still around here huh 😂🤣
@@f430ferrari5 What's your problem with him?
@@lessronishere7540 you may want to evaluate why he doesn’t even bother to respond after 4 days. 😂🤣
Go read my other reply to you and you should figure it out.
Notice what this commenter discusses. He writes a long analysis about a time period in 1944 which is totally irrelevant.
Stick to 1942. It’s the only time period that mattered. Midway is indeed the most popular discussion of the Pacific War of WW2. Yes?
He goes on to mislead yet again about Yamato or Musashi being useless battleships but that in reality is due to the stupidity of IJN leadership. There was nothing wrong with those battleships in 1942 had they been used properly.
Heck even the US used battleship and or heavy cruisers to bombard the shores in the Atlantic War for DDay.
So why do so many commenters unethically shy away from better utilization of the IJN battleships.
I’ve had many debates with BKJeong and absolutely destroyed him and he knows it but yet he still unethically makes misleading comments.
Let’s see how different you are. You agree with him Battleships were useless? Careful what you say. Don’t make a fool of yourself. Better do your research.
Shinano had the speed to outrun the Archerfish.
A propeller shaft bearing started over heating. She had to slow down until the bearing would run cool enough not to damage the bearing or the shaft. It was then that the Archerfish could keep track of her.
FDR's address to Congress was not to announce that there was war with Japan, but to ask the Congress for a declaration of war, because the US Congress is tasked with the duty to declare war under Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution.
Exactly. His speech was, “I ask that congress declare….”
You seriously mischarcterize the turn Shinano made due south by saying 'to put an end to the engagement'.
I recommend watching Historygraph's video on this encounter. A tad more detailed than claiming a carrier force rushed straight at a submarine to put an end to the engagement.
This video turned out great! Keep up the great work!
Thank you! Will do!
Thanks for this, I'm a submarine fan (from UK but my favourite was the Asiatic Pacific Campaign the US engaged in amongst other allies there) and this hit was an important one :-y
Huh. Didn’t know the Yamato’s Ten-Go escorts were with Shinano…
Also it should be noted Shinano was basically meant to be a logistics ship. She was never supposed to be a frontline carrier.
I'm old for my age, I learned something new today!
Hopefully not from this content...it's full of wild inaccuracies as is pointed out many times in this comment section.
Shinano was still being built as Battleship in 1942 Dolittle raid wasnt a factor
Terrific video!
Great Video On How This
Attack Happened...
I hope the whole crew were decorated for this victory.
Well done.
Excellent video
Just discovered ur channel and I like it ❤
Nevermind I’m hardly 10 seconds in and suddenly we’ve abandoned reality and a single large carrier completed in late 1944 is “threatening to tip the balance back in japan’s favor”
I understand dramatization but the days of the IJN standing toe to toe with the U.S. fleet alone is long past by this point. The war has devastated the Japanese navy and even were Shinano to put to sea, she would have met the exact same fate as all the other carriers of the Japanese carrier force. Her air group destroyed and the ship sunk.
By this point in the war it would have been more impressive if she had any air crew at all, so hard pressed had the Japanese become for pilots
The US DID NOT declare war on Germany. On December 11 Germany declared war on the US.
Underrated youtuber😢
I'm sorry about Pearl Harbor attacked. My country Japan was faulted.
Japanese actor Shoki Fukae(1928 - 2015) was crew in the Shinano.He is lucky. He is survived and long time alived.
Love this video
Even after the order to abandon ship 1,400 lives ended. Horrible.
Let's not get too carried away with they hype. That one ship wasn't going to tip the balance of sea power. By that time Japan was on a slow and steady retreat. That said, it was still a terrific shot by Archerfish.
Union Jack you used was not used after 1801.
Agree.
@@TheWarline Still a fantastic video
The only complaint I have on this video is that some of the jumping back and forth between the earlier and later dates and events gets a bit confusing. A more linear narrative might work better, with only a few jumps ahead that are worded as to make it clear exactly where the cuts to and back are.
Good video, but Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around. The US declared war on Japan as a result of the Pearl Harbor attack. Germany and Italy declared war on the US on December 11th as they were obligated to under the Tripartite Pact, aka Axis Alliance or Berlin Pact. Keep up the wonderful work and thank you!
Its still amaze me how we know Shinano capacity was 50ish planes. Wasnt tha the mount of planes she carried when she sunk?. We literally dont have any official documents stating how much planes she could carry assambled or dissasembled.
The flag of Great Britain shown in this video was used from 1707-1801, and NOT during WW2..
0:25 That's the pre-1801 UK flag. YOU FAIL IT!
When the sub captain reported it they said he was mental, the Japs had no carriers left so it must have been an oil tanker and he was closer than he thought.
Agree about the flag, Union Jack
Very nice video!
Thank you very much!
Wow! I've never even heard of this ship! What a great video!
Just didn’t have enough adequately trained pilots for an air wing but that’s beside the point.
Essentially, you sank a cruise ship
Great video!
Thanks!
I see this channel becoming a well-known one like Operations Room very soon. Keep up the good work!
Wow, thanks!
I dont see it. As many others have pointed out in this comment section, there are a handful of severe mistakes in this video that should have not made the final cut. Said mistakes would not even quailfy as bad research, as nothing of the sort is written in any sources, they are straight up misinformation/clickbait/fabrication. They are made up. This is a severe quality issue.
Unless future videos improve on quality and become more historically accurate, this channel will not reach a status similar to the Operations Room.
The graphics are awesome, some of the best I have ever seen here on UA-cam, but as long as facts are wrong/exaggerated/twisted, this channel is not great.
It's a shame how Shinano is not in World of warships
Give it time. They will probably release it as either a Tier 11 or premium T10
By this time war is over
I just wish someone would find the wrec lol f IJN Shinano , she should be the most intact Yamato class shipwreck as she didn’t suffer any magazine explosion like Yamato and Musashi. I’m surprised no one has found her yet.
It’s coordinates were (33°07′N 137°04′E), 65 miles (105 km) from the nearest land, in approximately 4,000 meters (13,000 ft) of water. Depending on her angle, speed and direction of decent, currents, coupled with how much she might have broken up - this would leave a very large area to search.
Had she not been sunk, Shinano would have been a non factor in the outcome of the war.
Did the treaty limit the tonnage world wide or just in the Pacific? Because the US and Britan would need more since they have the Atlantic to worry about and Japan only has the Pacific.
Imagine the disappointment and humiliation of the IJN!
Missing: What happened to the American sub?
She was retired in 1968, then sunk by us off San Diego
What's the point of a supercarrier if you don't have any planes left to stock it with?
has anyone found the Shinano? are there images of it at the bottom?
Fantasico Shinano... With love and respect from Vietnam... Allahu akhbar.
“Sneak” attack.
Bet the ship is in one peace at the bottom of the sea 🫡
This loss would have been a great opportunity for the leaders of Japan to admit defeat. Instead of dragging it out until Russia declared war.
If you insist on padding the video with backstory, get the backstory right. Declaring war is the prerogative of the US Congress, so FDR did not declare war on either Japan, Germany, or Italy.
Every time I consider the amazing efforts of our Submariners throughout the war, I always wonder what would be different if our torpedoes had been able to properly detonate upon target contact? Makes one wonder if someone made the parts inferior by design to allow the war to extend.
it would have been a slaughter and our politicians wanted this war. They knew japan was going to attack pearl.
This was the 2nd installment of the federal reserve becoming rich of tax payers and exercising ways to expand in taking over other economies.
Woodrow Wilson should burn in hell for what he did to the US.
It was due to how the U.S. economy was during the market crash. Torpedoes were expensive at the time, and live-fire testing would destroy said torpedoes, so no live-fire tests were conducted on the Mark XIV due to costs.
@@darkdill I see your point, back then a torpedo cost as much as a Hellcat fighter so they weren’t cheap since each one was hand made and parts couldn’t just be easily interchangeable. That said, if the torpedoes were malfunctioning then it would be a complete waste and any reasonable minded Commander would demand the issue be looked into immediately because risking the lives of the sub crews, not to mention possibly losing the sub as it’s torpedoes bounce off the enemy ships they then have to deal with depth charge attacks and many of our subs didn’t make it out as a result. So my inclination on the issue is that they knew this was an issue but didn’t push it to be addressed with an urgency. Remember, we knew our oil embargo would provoke the Japanese and we knew they were planning to hit Pearl Harbor which is why both of our aircraft carriers were out doing “training” while the rest of the fleet was in harbor. We could have crippled the Japanese by sinking their troop ships and everything else since they rely solely on ships to move the bulk of their logistics. But instead, we wanted the threat to grow so it would justify the construction of numerous aircraft and tank factories. Since it would pull our economy out of the dumpster and make certain people very wealthy. Just my opinion though.
@@echohunter4199 There's zero empirical evidence whatsoever to sustain your utterly ridiculous claim that there was specific foreknowledge of Japanese intent to attack Pearl Harbor much less that any such knowledge was so detailed as to result in the aircraft carries being deliberately deployed whilst the remainder of the fleet was permitted to be destroyed. If indeed that were the case FDR would be viewed as a traitor as would anyone involved in such a scheme for which zero evidence has ever been found. Such a claim is patent revisionist conspirobabble garbage retrospectively manufactured by ignorant individuals in an attempt to make themselves appear informed albeit only to the most ignorant of listeners. Your 'opinions' are not only not founded upon a shred of actual empirically sourced evidence rather than in total contradiction of this and therefore merely testament to your own abject ignorance of the subject at issue. The Kriegsmarine had a similar issue with the effectiveness of their torpedoes primarily due to the very same reason of cost with both this and the similar issue with the reliability of US torpedoes being widely known, studied and never found by any empirical analysis to be due to some conspirobabble policy you have posited without a shred of evidence. If you have even a modicum of respect for those who gave their lives in WW2 you should in the very least respect the fundamental tenets of historic custodianship rather than disseminate such utter rubbish and blatant lies and in so doing take a giant crap on the true circumstances of their sacrifice merely in order to prop up your own fragile ego and conceal your abject intellectual laziness. SMH.
Yea, that's a bit of a dramatic opening. That one Japanese "super" carrier wasn't going to tip the balance of power back to the Japanese. They may of had a super carrier, but by 1944 they didn't have enough experienced pilots. Even the kamikazes weren't going to stop the United States.
The japanese thought this. Not him.
Didn’t Germany declare war on the USA, not the other way round?
but didn't Germany declare war on the US instead?
Congrats on using the Pre 1800 version of the Union Jack. Ever heard of something called Google?
Japan needs SHINANO but in 1941
the more i learn about the IJN the more i realize how big gamblers they where lol
worst than those old people you see in Vegas
Lt Col Jimmy Doolittle, not Lt.
In reality, NO single ship, or, super-weapon would have prevented the inevitable. Japan sealed it's own destuction on December 7, 1941.
Yokosuka is a US Navy base now. I was briefly stationed there.
supreme fumble
🎉🎉
The Shinano wasn't a super carrier.
Not enough lifeboats 😏
So the Essex class carriers were longer than Shinano, by two feet. (Wikipedia)
10:17 you mean the US torpedoes actually worked? lol
0:27 the british flag is missing the cross of ireland (just saying)
Yes, It's a Mistake.
Total BRUH moment for Japan
Most skilled Japanese pilots were already dead by this time, this carrier would not have made a difference.
I take exception to the word "heroic" to describe the efforts of the Japanese sailors after the ship had been hit. As a historical channel, the creators of this video should be aware of the whitewashing that Japan has done about it's actions in WWII. That is alarming enough all by itself without historical channels being careless applying such words in these videos. I would think that the word "desperate" would have been a much better choice for the script writer here and I would go as far to suggest you change it.
I did not hear anything about the aircrews. At this time of the war, Japan did not have the pilots , especially with enough experiance to fight against the allies
3:25 It's pronounced "YO-KOOSH-KA".
Why so many lost when they had ample warning the ship was doomed ?
Japan could of had 100 supercarriers in 1944 and the lack of experience pilots would have rendered them useless.
The Japanese ARMY felt insulted by that 1925 treaty which actually negate much of the Japan-Russo war gains by the Japanese Army - they had to give much of that territory back. So the Japanese Army had reasons to be angry towards the Conference as a whole. But actually, they were not a participant in these naval negotiations. The Japanese Navy was, and this was the bigger insult to the Imperial Army - their 'cab drivers' were invited, they weren't! But the IJN knew about ship construction and costs, and facilities. The Japanese Army did not. They knew how to assemble a rifle, but were completely unaware of ship construction. The Army could build buildings and a factory bu their Navy had been learning how to build cities and shipyards. Japan's 3:5:5 ratio was recognized as a limitation, but Britain was going to spend most of their "5" ships covering the Atlantic and Indian Ocean. The Americans, too, would allocate 3 or even 4 ships to the Atlantic and Pacific Coastlines. The Philippines were seen a drain on their resources, and that's why giving the Japanese control of post WWI German islands (the Marianas, etc) was a good thing, to the Americans.