Well the second where Shaundi dies is in my opinion is the most difficult and the best because of having to infiltrate the flying Helicarrier and fight Cyrus on the ground while he's zipping around a VTO....
Personally I prefer the "Bad Ending". Killbane was right about one thing, the same one which Johnny was aware as well at the beginning: Saints became market-slaves, caring only about the money. By killing him, and then defeating STAG, the Saints got back to their roots, to what they really are: not puppets, but the masters.
I’m a bit confused because I’ve played this on PS3 before, saved Shaundi and then played the final mission again and killed Killbane instead - and after that the statue was still in ocean after being blown up. But then on PS4 I done it in reverse, killing Killbane and then replaying it to save Shaundi because I didn’t want her to die...but still when I fly over to the island the statue is in the water like it were blown up...some I’m confused as to if Shaundi is dead or not on my play-through lmao...but it doesn’t matter cause she’s in SR4 right
MCDroguinha OMG:O I don’t get it though because I’ve played it on PS3 and PS4 and when doing the mission for the first time I choice different paths but for some reason both led to the statue being in the water after the game was done - which means it was blown up and Shaundi died right? It’s all very confusing lol
Too be fair, Angel gets surrounded and it turns into a shoot out where you also blow shit up before you take on KillBane. Again, more action than the good ending
Y'all wanna know what's sad about the bad ending, here's the list 1. Shaundi died still knowing/believing that Johnny is dead 2. Viola died knowing that her sister's death has been avenged 3. Burt died which is bad, because he was the only person who kept STAG away from taking over Steelport. That's it, if you think about, what i'm trying to tell you all, you found the bad ending a bit sad.
Basically bad ending is if you let nothing stand in ur way to become the master, ignore all pain by just knowing that all the pain and loss around you will be worth it. but good ending is if ur the type of boss that protects his gang and doesn’t take victory if his gang members are not with him (honour full) Really a big dilemma and can tell what type of a person you are
Ikr tbh i still say it too since the mid and late 10s kinda drove me away due to catering to the whole PC folks but now i came back with this game on ps4 now lol
Police/law corruption is a very common theme in this series. And the Saints are scapegoats -- it's easy to blame the ones without a badge, when really they done what the police couldn't: take down gangs with certainty they'll stay gone. Stilwater PD couldn't do that to the Carnales in the 30+ years they were around. Troy's the only good cop in the whole series... and yet it's revealed he went to hell 😕
@@misosceles8613 Was sort of just making a point that kind of... went a slightly different direction. Simply put, law and government in this series think of themselves as just, but they roll in the dirt with the gangs; Kia mentioning Carlos like that is a taunt a typical gang member would make. Just never mind the rest lol
Nah man, id Rather they did it the way they did, Screw Wasting time. They had the dudes Location and the Went for his ass (am talking about how they offed the morningstar leader :))
I agree. Even from the original trailer, Loren and the Morningstar were clearly meant to survive longer, since they're seen raiding the Saints HQ before a squadron of STAG VTOLs surround them on the roof. I just feel like killing off the Syndicate leader in the first act is too anti-climactic.
So, the kill killbane ending. I notice a lot of comments here talking about how it's actually a more fitting for a saints row game. As this is the first one I've played at the time of writing, I can't say, myself. I will admit, now seeing it, there is a certain badassery in how they hunt down an enemy trying to escape, face down a massive foe, and waste no time in filling the vacuum of power; and with all the swagger they show while doing it. However, let me make a spirited defense of the "save the saints" ending. The thing is, if you have or are on the way to completing all the side and takeover quests in the game, you already prove yourself as the dominant force in steelport. Even after coming into the city with no resources or support, you claw the city from the syndicate, operation by operation, and district by district. You ultimately have already proven, despite commercializing yourselves, that you never lost that edge as the saints. So what if killbane escapes? As soon as loren went down, the syndicate crumbled under fleeing and defecting members. As cliché as this is going to sound, that unity the saints kept onto, even managing to bring new lieutenants into its ranks, gave it strength. Killbane can get away, but, he's escaping as a loser; and no rationalizations of "principled brutality" or whatever can change that. And finally telling cyrus that he should be thanking the saints is proof that the saints can give mercy or destruction at their whim. Given the victories the saints won against STAG even in this ending proves that cyrus's threat may be sincere, but, will ultimately prove fruitless. So, maybe the saints don't "go back to their roots"; but, no blooming, healthy plant ever stays as just roots. The saints aren't plants, you say? I think the fleur-de-lis (flower), begs to differ.
You're absolutely right. Though I'd be fair in acknowledging that the two endings were likely a holdover from Volition's originally darker vision of the story prior to producers insisting in making it "lighter." Originally Killbane was supposed to have nuked Stilwater, which I think would have been a much stronger motivator for players to consider killing him at the price of Shaundi; especially since they also originally intended for an epilogue in the 'Save Shaundi' ending to feature Shaundi becoming so embittered by the Boss seemingly forgetting about avenging Johnny that Cyrus ends up convincing her to join STAG. As it stands, the 'sell out' conflict didn't really work because Killbane was a weak antagonist who'd already been defeated and willingly leaving your comrades for dead just to kick a man while he's down is more stupid than hardcore. I'd like to think Saints Row 4 is pretty much a feature-length version of 'Gangstas in Space' though.
I agree, but to add to it I fundementally feel that both endings achomplish the same things. Just in VERY different ways. Namely, in both endings: You kill Killbane. You humiliate Stag. And the Saints become an Empire. And while the first one is suspect since one ending is literally called "Kill Killbane ending" implying the other doesn't but I was specific in my word choice. "Killbane" is a wrestling persona, Eddie, was the actual person. There is no way Eddie would have authorized or allowed "Killbane's" likeness in Gangsters in Space had he owned the character meaning that as an icon, as a persona; the Saints OWN KILLBANE. Eddie, can never reclaim his title, or his mask, without openly confronting the Saints. At which point Eddie would likely get shot. And because his reputation is so humiliated, there's no way he could build up the forces to even begin to consider attacking the saints. For all intensive purposes, Killbane is dead. The true difference in the endings is the feelings of the Boss and their true desire lies. Will they sacrifice their ambition or their allies. Respect or Valor. Icon or Gangster. Saint, or Devil. And was Julius right all along? Saints 3's plot is not as strong as 2's, but I still feel it had some thought put into its theme. My only complaint, is that I feel they needed to lean into it more. But for what it is, its decent.
Letting Shaundi die and going after Killbane is definitely the more classic "Saints Row" ending. It definitely had a lot more thought put into it and as much as I like Shaundi, I am actually disappointed that it's not Canon that she died
ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley don’t compare a video game to real life. Killing killbane adds up to the storyline but saving Shaundi doesn’t. Lot of people prefer killing killbane
ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley just like how you spend all day reposting and trying to get on people’s nerves. You telling me you really don’t have a life 😅 pretty sad
@@praetorian9823 So I guess that the "Good Ending" is the true ending, and with this there is no point to get the "Bad Ending", unless if you are very curious to know what the Bad Ending has to show and offer. But is it possible to get the Good Ending and kill Killbane as well? Because he is evil.
Every Saint to weak and useless to strong, smart and useful. 19: Josh Birk. He runs away when swat team comes, joined STAG and then he's just a random Saint. He's useless even random saint can beat him. 18: CID. While he give some information he's useless in fighting 17: Angel. He's only helping to beat Luchadores and he failed to beat Killbane himself and Boss do it himself. 16: Zimos: He helped only to defeat Morningstar and saving hookers. He make a come back in ETD(Enter The Dominatrix) 15: Matt Miller. He helped Kinzie to free others but he's trusted Zinyak is that he will recreate Earth. 14: Keith David. He became a Vice President, helped Boss to escape simulation but he also trusted Zinyak is that he will recreate Earth if he will kill Boss. 13: Asha Odekar. She seems from a soldier but we don't see that. Again she trusted Zinyak. 12: Oleg. He's a big brute. He tells is that there are other people who hate Syndicate, helped Boss and Pierce to kill Luchadores and STAG, let Boss and Viola escaped. 11. Lin. She was a spy to Rollerz, says to Playa everything about Rollerz and she's save Playa from water and he had no choice but escaped. 10. Carlos. If he wasn't existed in story then Boss would stuck on prison and Saints wouldn't rise again, he tried to help Boss but fails and when he was dead, this pissed off Boss. 9. Dex. He's got first gang in city The Los Car- (cough) (cough) i mean The Carnales. He starts mission with tactical plan and was a little helping to taking out VKs. After all that he walked away and joined Ultor. 8. Ben King. After he got betrayed by his own gang, he joined Saints just a little time. And he comes back in SR4. With a 2 times killing Tanya and his crew. 7. Shaundi. She was useful on taking the Sons, helping to Brotherhood and talking about information and drugs but after SR2 she became useless. She's helped in some missions but not in gangs or STAG and always feel bad about Johnny. In SR4 she's less bitching, we meet two Shaundi's and now she and Pierce are a duo team. 6. Kinzie. In SR3 she was just a hacker that helps you to defeat Deckers. In SR4 she became more useful: helps you saving homies, talk about simulation and help kill Zinyak. In Gat out of hell she helped Johnny to beat Satan and save Boss. 5. Pierce. In SR2 he was helping defeating all gangs, gaving Boss something. In SR3 he came to Steelport with crew, helped Boss and Shaundi, he and Boss are always destroy something and he still help in all gangs except Luchadores. In SR4 he got rare help. 4. Troy. He was undercover cop that helps Saints and not hurt police that's why he doesn't want to take out Vice kings. Troy wanted Julius and everyone to drop flags and walk away alive and happy to not arresting them. He was shocked is that Playa with Hughes was blowned. He was taking of Playa and when he was chief of police, Police is stopped to trying to kill Gat. If Troy wasnt in story then Playa and Johnny would be dead. Even as chief of police he was still keeping police back from Saints and tried to help them. In SR3 he dissapeared which is dissapointing. 3. Julius. Creator of 3rd Street saints and first leader. He created the Saints only to stop a gang war for Stilwater. When he was free he planted bomb and tried to kill Playa to end the Saints. He helped Playa to killing Masako team but after that he says is that Saints didn't elvove a goddamn thing and they are Vice Kings in purple and he's got shoted in head by Playa. 2. Johnny Gat. The best member of gang. First he started to dealing with Vice Kings. He's stabbed Anthony and let Playa escape, destroyed statues, helped to kill Tanya and Chief Monroe. In SR2 he made over 300 murders, helped Playa to rebuild gang. He's helped Playa with Ronins, buried Shogo alive, fighted Ronins with vehicles, buried Ronin leader alive, helped to destroy Pyramid. In SR3 he is fighted Morningstar members in plane and almost killed Morningstar leader but then got cought by Zinyak. In SR4 he killed almost all aliens until Playa came out, says is that Johnny can himself kill Zinyak without any help. In Gat out of hell Gat is beated Satan and saved Playa. 1. Playa/Boss. Saints got lucky because Playa is with them like King is saying if he was found him first Vice Kings could own Stilwater. He's took down all gangs, chief of police, mayor of Stilwater, Ultor Corporation, Special Forces STAG, Aliens. He went from street thug to celebrity to president. He was the only one who will rise Saints. If he would be dead in SR3 then Saints are already fall apart. That's it it was long to write.
Personally I prefer the "Good Ending". You shrug off Killbane's platitudes and protect your friends. You stay true to yourself and amass power to make it real. You keep to your roots and don't become the dudes you fought to get where you are. Not puppets of passion, but the masters.
The good ending is the complete opposite of sticking to your roots. Like Johnny said in the beginning, they became pussies. Then they come full circle in the end and start making movies. They’re gangsters. That’s not going back to their roots
SlyverKill but you kill your homie that’s been loyal to you since the begging to keep a tough reputation? Nah that’s hella fucked up you don’t only kill shaudi you kill viola and Burt Reynolds
It doesnt make sense otherwise. The saints believe in loyalty above all else if you look at the previous games. Dont you think if they had a chance to save Ayesha, Carlos, etc. Even if it meant missing out on killing their enemies, they would?
I like the ending where you killed Killbane and Cyrus better and how the saints took over steelport, but of course Shaundi Dying is the price you have to pay, but the ending where she lives and them shooting gangsters in space was pretty stupid to me
@@shadowv6794 Kinzie mentioned something like that in 4 questioning why was Shaundi alive. Even if the real ending is saving Shaundi, it still makes no sense that Pierce became major since Burt survived too. Then the saints were running the white house 5 years later.
@@theonlyplain it just sucks I don't think there's any other AI Saints to help you lol other than Pierce and Oleg. It's pretty much mostly the Luchadors and STAG fighting eachother.
Killing kill bane was more fitting for a canon ending tbh. It’s what the old boss would’ve done and throughout the storyline of the 3rd ur constantly told how washed up the saints have become. Plus it’s what shaundi would’ve wanted too, the saints worked too hard to just let killbane go scott free.
Plus the saints looking like they destroyed the monument would set them back from being corporate puppets and push them down to being on the hunt for literally being terrorists. I reckon that whole aspect with the plot of trying to prove STAG staged the terrorist attack would be a badass game idea. But I would miss Shaundi.
Bad ending gives me Armstrong energies -Towering buff opponent -Takes place in the middle of a burning wreckage -Opponent gives a monologue where they actually have a point -And you kill the opponent with your bare hands
The bad ending felt so much better to play than the good one to me, The Daedalus makes an appearance finally after being teased throughout the story and the ending generally felt better.
@@brooke2598 its like part of the storyline. if you choose the kill killbane ending, shaundi would be dead, but shes alive in saints row 4, so that means the save shaundi ending is the cannon one.
nah man, as cold and ruthless as the Boss was in SR2, loyalty to his crew was still one of his most defining traits I mean, he rushed to Carlos' rescue as soon as he found out he's in danger, yeah? Same with him saving Shaundi from Veteran Child
@@Imuglyafhh well in sr4 you kill zinyak and you are not in a simulation and in gat of hell god recreates earth. This means there is no more super powers and you are on earth. I have no idea what the story would be about but all this stuff happened and they cant change that.
@@caskie93 they mentioned in SR4 something about Zinyak's access to time travel and how they were gonna use it to stop the events that happened in saints row iv
So both endings hinted at what was coming for 4 if you think about it. Whenever I replay 3 I always go save Shaundi so seeing the 2ed ending, wow good on the game developers. I mean think about it, you save Shaundi you're making a movie about the Saints going into space. You go after Killbane, the player talks to Pierce about running for mayor and Steelport basically going into politics
ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley lmao I see you on every comment. Again stop comparing a video game to real life. The third street saints and the boss are cold hearted and u establish dominance when killing killbane in sr4 u get to see Shaundi. Letting a friend die doesn’t establish shit it’s like any regular day of the saints they let a homie day and that’s it.
Funny thing is that the REAL ending is a mixture of both endings. The Boss kills Killbane while Pierce and the gang save Viola and Shandi while killing Kia. The government blames STAG and decides to go rogue and the rest is pretty much the bad ending.
People should know that if you save Shaundi than she, Viola & Burt lives, Magarac Island is spared & Angel & Kia were killed in the good ending. But if you kill Killbane than he, Shaundi, Viola & Mayor Reynolds die, Angel lives, Kia survives the explosion & the Saints are set up as terrorists by STAG in the bad ending.
If johnny is still alive and the boss picked kill killbane instead of saving shaundi and viola, i bet that would be the first fight scene between johnny and the boss
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@@JoeDirtisawsome What did he drop exactly? iirc he wasn't exactly doing anything at the moment so he didn't have a dilemma between killing his enemy and saving his friend. Also boss was way closer to Carlos than he ever was to Viola and Shaundi, even Shaundi said that she didn't expect boss to save her.
I’d rather Shaundi die being honest. Seeing her character change so much for the worse was terrible. There wasn’t even buildup to it. She just, I guess decided to turn total bitch. She gets a throwaway line about how she had no time to relax... but why? She’d never work that much, at least with what I saw in 2. At least if she does it would help us forget the butchery to her character
Why would the stag woman call the the boss instead of just doing and giving him time to stop it and wait at the top where its gonna BLOW!!!? Doesn't make sense.
İt looks like a lot of people forgot an important detail. You can always try to find your enemies to kill them, but you can't revive your homies without God's help.
I think the one were Killbane dies cus if u kill him Shaunda and Viola will die and that choice just seems imbalanced so i think it would be better to have the whole crew. and honestly i dont care that people think the saints are soft and is it really worth letting your close friends die to prove your not soft or to be badass
I personally prefer the Good Ending, not because of the song, because it’s right. Why would the Boss go and kill Kilbane, he’s already ruined his career, by taking his mask off. That’s the one thing that made him an icon. It’s Angel that asks to get Killbane, but Angel is that desperate for him. So it’s his problem, he goes after Killbane. Yes it’s a bit weird at the end that there’s a film about the Saints, going to space. If this became an actual series, the Boss saves Shaundi, Angel goes after Killbane but loses, Angel gets mad and leaves the Saints for STAG, there’s no movie at the end. Instead the Saints don’t take over the city, they keep the peace with the people, and the mayor. They can still get into gang fights.
Shaundi and Gat are still alive in the 4th one so if you think about it, both endings are good endings no such thing as a bad ending in the 3rd, just think about Shaundi the way that they found out that Jonny Gat was still alive in the 4th one. So we all good 👍🏼. Lol
Kill Killbane+Daedalus ending is so much more badass, too bad it's not canon Like, SR3 Shaundi is useless anyways and is a total bitch, so nothing of value was lost and what was even the point of keeping Viola alive if she didn't even appear in the next game
I’m a bit confused because I’ve played this on PS3 before, saved Shaundi and then played the final mission again and killed Killbane instead - and after that the statue was still in ocean after being blown up. But then on PS4 I done it in reverse, killing Killbane and then replaying it to save Shaundi because I didn’t want her to die...but still when I fly over to the island the statue is in the water like it were blown up...some I’m confused as to if Shaundi is dead or not on my play-through lmao...but it doesn’t matter cause she’s in SR4 right
@@yagirlrae7690 True. So I guess that this is a (big) flaw of the story, because if you look at it, the way that both endings are designed is a bit weird. And it's a shame for such a good game to have a buggy story (if such thing exists). Not to say that the game is not worth it because of that, but it could be better, otherwise nothing is perfect and if something is close to perfect, still cannot be perfect for some reason. Also, Pierce* and Oleg*.
just finished the game on the Switch, the graphics definitely is a lot more watered down compared to the PC version lol. I choose to save the gang and statue.
All these comments really show me how little people care about this game is bugs and poor build quality outside of the remastered graphics like there’s mobile games that have better physics and car handling
Corrupted Semen hmm so saving the entirety of steelports population from the sociopaths of stag is bad, oh thanks for letting me know that I should just not interfere stay and not help.
I feel like both endings are the good ending ending you save shaundi and the saints are considered heros but ending 2 i get shaundi and viola die but killbane dies stagg is defeated and that giant hovered thing that was in the air destroying the city gets blown out of the sky and there i think the saints redeem themselves and stagg is defeated
Honestly I don’t like the different endings, it could’ve all been one! Like you go and kill killbane, rescue shaundi, viola and mayor Reynolds and instead of destroying the monument could’ve had Cyrus just have enough of the saints and deploy the warship on his own
I know killing Killbane is more epic and all, but I think it's way too serious considering this is a game where we can play as a toilet or a sex doll...
Ending Three Way with saving Shaundi is way cooler than chasing Killbane, but the next mission is a cringefest imo and I hated it. Fighting off Daedalus is way better than Gangstas in Space
I don’t really like the new graphics because they didn’t change their models when they talk so it doesn’t look realistic, they don’t really portray any emotion like the old one
Who knows but it does piss the player enough to enjoy her death. I really liked it because she saying all the people you failed to protect from 1 and 2
When they make SR5 they need to make it seem like 4 was a big ass dream or something and in reality they’re back running Stillwater or a new map Bc they’re probably taking forever with 5 because they can’t come up with a hosted storyline that’ll make since all Bc ALIENS being in SR4 but I love the fact the boss was president
13:10 - 14:05 What is that song playing in the background? It was never FULLY released, except a small part of it for the phone ringtone. Can someone remove the voices somehow and just leave the background music in?
What ending do you think is the best!?
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Both are best!!!❤️
Saving shaundi is best ending because you can still kill killbane after it's just harder
The good ending, the music just makes me do it first.
Well the second where Shaundi dies is in my opinion is the most difficult and the best because of having to infiltrate the flying Helicarrier and fight Cyrus on the ground while he's zipping around a VTO....
Shaundi still alive in Saints Row 4
Personally I prefer the "Bad Ending". Killbane was right about one thing, the same one which Johnny was aware as well at the beginning: Saints became market-slaves, caring only about the money. By killing him, and then defeating STAG, the Saints got back to their roots, to what they really are: not puppets, but the masters.
True but if that was a cannon ending people would complain because Shaundi dies.
I’m a bit confused because I’ve played this on PS3 before, saved Shaundi and then played the final mission again and killed Killbane instead - and after that the statue was still in ocean after being blown up. But then on PS4 I done it in reverse, killing Killbane and then replaying it to save Shaundi because I didn’t want her to die...but still when I fly over to the island the statue is in the water like it were blown up...some I’m confused as to if Shaundi is dead or not on my play-through lmao...but it doesn’t matter cause she’s in SR4 right
Guevara they do that so you can see the other ending
MCDroguinha OMG:O I don’t get it though because I’ve played it on PS3 and PS4 and when doing the mission for the first time I choice different paths but for some reason both led to the statue being in the water after the game was done - which means it was blown up and Shaundi died right? It’s all very confusing lol
Mr Salty shaundi is annoying as hell tho
I dont understand how people would not save Shaundi, Viola and Burt when I Need a Hero is in the background
@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley eh I feel like saving them is the lamer ending. Imo killing kilbane end is so much more badass.
@@splash_067 If it's worth killing a guy you don't really care about instant of saving a friend, okay
Frrr
Also you can play the other end after saving Shaundy, then you have saved Shaundy and killed Killbane.
Too be fair, Angel gets surrounded and it turns into a shoot out where you also blow shit up before you take on KillBane. Again, more action than the good ending
"The saint's legacy ends here, not with a bang but with a whimper"
Aged like wine...
The last time the series felt like the first two
After the third the series went downhill
Y'all wanna know what's sad about the bad ending, here's the list
1. Shaundi died still knowing/believing that Johnny is dead
2. Viola died knowing that her sister's death has been avenged
3. Burt died which is bad, because he was the only person who kept STAG away from taking over Steelport.
That's it, if you think about, what i'm trying to tell you all, you found the bad ending a bit sad.
Basically bad ending is if you let nothing stand in ur way to become the master, ignore all pain by just knowing that all the pain and loss around you will be worth it. but good ending is if ur the type of boss that protects his gang and doesn’t take victory if his gang members are not with him (honour full)
Really a big dilemma and can tell what type of a person you are
Also, an entire statue gets destroyed too. Good thing I chose the good ending.
I'm livin' in that 21st century, doing something mean to it.
Do it better than anybody you ever seen do it
Screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it
I guess every superhero need his theme music
No one man should have all that power
Stop trippin’ I’m trippin’ off the power
One ending you embrace your roots and in the other you embrace what you've become.
Two damn good endings. Early 2010s was Golden age for gaming 👌💯
Ikr tbh i still say it too since the mid and late 10s kinda drove me away due to catering to the whole PC folks but now i came back with this game on ps4 now lol
Especially wd aswell as 2015 games
All though the good ending is cannon the bad ending had a really great lead up to Saints Row IV
No the bad ending is leading away from the atrocity we call saints row 4. If only it never happened
Zach of Cornholio It’s not a bad game just because you personally don’t like it. It’s my favorite in the series.
@@ZachofPotatoes732 u'd have enter the dominatrix then tho
But shaundi is alive in saints row 4
@@ZachofPotatoes732
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Bringing up Carlos was cold
Police/law corruption is a very common theme in this series. And the Saints are scapegoats -- it's easy to blame the ones without a badge, when really they done what the police couldn't: take down gangs with certainty they'll stay gone. Stilwater PD couldn't do that to the Carnales in the 30+ years they were around. Troy's the only good cop in the whole series... and yet it's revealed he went to hell 😕
@@claudewinchester7068 what does this have to do with Carlos
@@misosceles8613 Was sort of just making a point that kind of... went a slightly different direction. Simply put, law and government in this series think of themselves as just, but they roll in the dirt with the gangs; Kia mentioning Carlos like that is a taunt a typical gang member would make. Just never mind the rest lol
@@claudewinchester7068 OK lmao
Timestamp pls
I wish the Ending was with Morningstar instead killbane..
He take Gat from the third, i know he aint dead butt yea
Nah man, id Rather they did it the way they did, Screw Wasting time. They had the dudes Location and the Went for his ass (am talking about how they offed the morningstar leader :))
I agree. Even from the original trailer, Loren and the Morningstar were clearly meant to survive longer, since they're seen raiding the Saints HQ before a squadron of STAG VTOLs surround them on the roof. I just feel like killing off the Syndicate leader in the first act is too anti-climactic.
No xinyak took johnny
I figured after unmasking killbane I’ve already done enough to humiliate him so he’s no use to us anymore
Same
Yeah killing him is more less satisfying seeing as how we humiliated him
Exactly there's no point at all
So, the kill killbane ending. I notice a lot of comments here talking about how it's actually a more fitting for a saints row game. As this is the first one I've played at the time of writing, I can't say, myself. I will admit, now seeing it, there is a certain badassery in how they hunt down an enemy trying to escape, face down a massive foe, and waste no time in filling the vacuum of power; and with all the swagger they show while doing it.
However, let me make a spirited defense of the "save the saints" ending.
The thing is, if you have or are on the way to completing all the side and takeover quests in the game, you already prove yourself as the dominant force in steelport. Even after coming into the city with no resources or support, you claw the city from the syndicate, operation by operation, and district by district. You ultimately have already proven, despite commercializing yourselves, that you never lost that edge as the saints.
So what if killbane escapes? As soon as loren went down, the syndicate crumbled under fleeing and defecting members. As cliché as this is going to sound, that unity the saints kept onto, even managing to bring new lieutenants into its ranks, gave it strength. Killbane can get away, but, he's escaping as a loser; and no rationalizations of "principled brutality" or whatever can change that.
And finally telling cyrus that he should be thanking the saints is proof that the saints can give mercy or destruction at their whim. Given the victories the saints won against STAG even in this ending proves that cyrus's threat may be sincere, but, will ultimately prove fruitless.
So, maybe the saints don't "go back to their roots"; but, no blooming, healthy plant ever stays as just roots. The saints aren't plants, you say? I think the fleur-de-lis (flower), begs to differ.
You're absolutely right. Though I'd be fair in acknowledging that the two endings were likely a holdover from Volition's originally darker vision of the story prior to producers insisting in making it "lighter." Originally Killbane was supposed to have nuked Stilwater, which I think would have been a much stronger motivator for players to consider killing him at the price of Shaundi; especially since they also originally intended for an epilogue in the 'Save Shaundi' ending to feature Shaundi becoming so embittered by the Boss seemingly forgetting about avenging Johnny that Cyrus ends up convincing her to join STAG. As it stands, the 'sell out' conflict didn't really work because Killbane was a weak antagonist who'd already been defeated and willingly leaving your comrades for dead just to kick a man while he's down is more stupid than hardcore.
I'd like to think Saints Row 4 is pretty much a feature-length version of 'Gangstas in Space' though.
I agree, but to add to it I fundementally feel that both endings achomplish the same things. Just in VERY different ways. Namely, in both endings:
You kill Killbane.
You humiliate Stag.
And the Saints become an Empire.
And while the first one is suspect since one ending is literally called "Kill Killbane ending" implying the other doesn't but I was specific in my word choice. "Killbane" is a wrestling persona, Eddie, was the actual person. There is no way Eddie would have authorized or allowed "Killbane's" likeness in Gangsters in Space had he owned the character meaning that as an icon, as a persona; the Saints OWN KILLBANE. Eddie, can never reclaim his title, or his mask, without openly confronting the Saints. At which point Eddie would likely get shot. And because his reputation is so humiliated, there's no way he could build up the forces to even begin to consider attacking the saints. For all intensive purposes, Killbane is dead.
The true difference in the endings is the feelings of the Boss and their true desire lies. Will they sacrifice their ambition or their allies. Respect or Valor. Icon or Gangster. Saint, or Devil. And was Julius right all along?
Saints 3's plot is not as strong as 2's, but I still feel it had some thought put into its theme. My only complaint, is that I feel they needed to lean into it more. But for what it is, its decent.
Letting Shaundi die and going after Killbane is definitely the more classic "Saints Row" ending.
It definitely had a lot more thought put into it and as much as I like Shaundi, I am actually disappointed that it's not Canon that she died
ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley don’t compare a video game to real life. Killing killbane adds up to the storyline but saving Shaundi doesn’t. Lot of people prefer killing killbane
ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley just like how you spend all day reposting and trying to get on people’s nerves. You telling me you really don’t have a life 😅 pretty sad
But she is alive in Saints Row IV & Saints Row Gat Out of Hell. Explanation please?
@@shadowv6794 in Canon she lives, but her dying is more fitting
@@praetorian9823 So I guess that the "Good Ending" is the true ending, and with this there is no point to get the "Bad Ending", unless if you are very curious to know what the Bad Ending has to show and offer. But is it possible to get the Good Ending and kill Killbane as well? Because he is evil.
The sad thing is, without Johnny, they have a whole organization that can't do anything on their own...only when the Boss is there to help.
Who is Johnny?
@@ekales_ Johnny Gat
Every Saint to weak and useless to strong, smart and useful.
19: Josh Birk. He runs away when swat team comes, joined STAG and then he's just a random Saint. He's useless even random saint can beat him.
18: CID. While he give some information he's useless in fighting
17: Angel. He's only helping to beat Luchadores and he failed to beat Killbane himself and Boss do it himself.
16: Zimos: He helped only to defeat Morningstar and saving hookers. He make a come back in ETD(Enter The Dominatrix)
15: Matt Miller. He helped Kinzie to free others but he's trusted Zinyak is that he will recreate Earth.
14: Keith David. He became a Vice President, helped Boss to escape simulation but he also trusted Zinyak is that he will recreate Earth if he will kill Boss.
13: Asha Odekar. She seems from a soldier but we don't see that. Again she trusted Zinyak.
12: Oleg. He's a big brute. He tells is that there are other people who hate Syndicate, helped Boss and Pierce to kill Luchadores and STAG, let Boss and Viola escaped.
11. Lin. She was a spy to Rollerz, says to Playa everything about Rollerz and she's save Playa from water and he had no choice but escaped.
10. Carlos. If he wasn't existed in story then Boss would stuck on prison and Saints wouldn't rise again, he tried to help Boss but fails and when he was dead, this pissed off Boss.
9. Dex. He's got first gang in city The Los Car- (cough) (cough) i mean The Carnales. He starts mission with tactical plan and was a little helping to taking out VKs. After all that he walked away and joined Ultor.
8. Ben King. After he got betrayed by his own gang, he joined Saints just a little time. And he comes back in SR4. With a 2 times killing Tanya and his crew.
7. Shaundi. She was useful on taking the Sons, helping to Brotherhood and talking about information and drugs but after SR2 she became useless. She's helped in some missions but not in gangs or STAG and always feel bad about Johnny. In SR4 she's less bitching, we meet two Shaundi's and now she and Pierce are a duo team.
6. Kinzie. In SR3 she was just a hacker that helps you to defeat Deckers. In SR4 she became more useful: helps you saving homies, talk about simulation and help kill Zinyak. In Gat out of hell she helped Johnny to beat Satan and save Boss.
5. Pierce. In SR2 he was helping defeating all gangs, gaving Boss something. In SR3 he came to Steelport with crew, helped Boss and Shaundi, he and Boss are always destroy something and he still help in all gangs except Luchadores. In SR4 he got rare help.
4. Troy. He was undercover cop that helps Saints and not hurt police that's why he doesn't want to take out Vice kings. Troy wanted Julius and everyone to drop flags and walk away alive and happy to not arresting them. He was shocked is that Playa with Hughes was blowned. He was taking of Playa and when he was chief of police, Police is stopped to trying to kill Gat. If Troy wasnt in story then Playa and Johnny would be dead. Even as chief of police he was still keeping police back from Saints and tried to help them. In SR3 he dissapeared which is dissapointing.
3. Julius. Creator of 3rd Street saints and first leader. He created the Saints only to stop a gang war for Stilwater. When he was free he planted bomb and tried to kill Playa to end the Saints. He helped Playa to killing Masako team but after that he says is that Saints didn't elvove a goddamn thing and they are Vice Kings in purple and he's got shoted in head by Playa.
2. Johnny Gat. The best member of gang. First he started to dealing with Vice Kings. He's stabbed Anthony and let Playa escape, destroyed statues, helped to kill Tanya and Chief Monroe. In SR2 he made over 300 murders, helped Playa to rebuild gang. He's helped Playa with Ronins, buried Shogo alive, fighted Ronins with vehicles, buried Ronin leader alive, helped to destroy Pyramid. In SR3 he is fighted Morningstar members in plane and almost killed Morningstar leader but then got cought by Zinyak. In SR4 he killed almost all aliens until Playa came out, says is that Johnny can himself kill Zinyak without any help. In Gat out of hell Gat is beated Satan and saved Playa.
1. Playa/Boss. Saints got lucky because Playa is with them like King is saying if he was found him first Vice Kings could own Stilwater. He's took down all gangs, chief of police, mayor of Stilwater, Ultor Corporation, Special Forces STAG, Aliens. He went from street thug to celebrity to president. He was the only one who will rise Saints. If he would be dead in SR3 then Saints are already fall apart.
That's it it was long to write.
@@gamesshow9833 All of that, and not even a single like. Sad.
@@gamesshow9833 *i know this is hella late but since when has asha trusted zinyak? She never trusted him.*
Why does Peirce look like Gumball when he got handsome for picture day
Lmao
@@coronavirus8809 COVID 19
yeah, they ruined everyone's face in this remaster
I'm never going to unsee that now😂
😂
Personally I prefer the "Good Ending". You shrug off Killbane's platitudes and protect your friends. You stay true to yourself and amass power to make it real. You keep to your roots and don't become the dudes you fought to get where you are. Not puppets of passion, but the masters.
The good ending is the complete opposite of sticking to your roots. Like Johnny said in the beginning, they became pussies. Then they come full circle in the end and start making movies. They’re gangsters. That’s not going back to their roots
SlyverKill but you kill your homie that’s been loyal to you since the begging to keep a tough reputation? Nah that’s hella fucked up you don’t only kill shaudi you kill viola and Burt Reynolds
It doesnt make sense otherwise. The saints believe in loyalty above all else if you look at the previous games. Dont you think if they had a chance to save Ayesha, Carlos, etc. Even if it meant missing out on killing their enemies, they would?
@@mixtapemania6769 That's literally what I said.
I like the ending where you killed Killbane and Cyrus better and how the saints took over steelport, but of course Shaundi Dying is the price you have to pay, but the ending where she lives and them shooting gangsters in space was pretty stupid to me
fanboy editor well isn’t the ending with them shooting gangsters in space the canon ending with the fact that shanudi is Alive
But how do you explain the fact that Shaundi exists in Saints Row IV & Saints Row Gat Out of Hell?
Yea but then youd lose Burt Reynolds too
@@shadowv6794 Kinzie mentioned something like that in 4 questioning why was Shaundi alive. Even if the real ending is saving Shaundi, it still makes no sense that Pierce became major since Burt survived too. Then the saints were running the white house 5 years later.
Really bruh shooting gangster in space bruh they obviously made a movie or something if not then makes no sense at all
Mission name: three way.
Options available: two.
its called three way because theres three factions against each other
@@theonlyplain it just sucks I don't think there's any other AI Saints to help you lol other than Pierce and Oleg.
It's pretty much mostly the Luchadors and STAG fighting eachother.
Killing kill bane was more fitting for a canon ending tbh. It’s what the old boss would’ve done and throughout the storyline of the 3rd ur constantly told how washed up the saints have become. Plus it’s what shaundi would’ve wanted too, the saints worked too hard to just let killbane go scott free.
Your right plus the story really can end there there's no loose ends or anything and it has a better tone to it
Plus the saints looking like they destroyed the monument would set them back from being corporate puppets and push them down to being on the hunt for literally being terrorists. I reckon that whole aspect with the plot of trying to prove STAG staged the terrorist attack would be a badass game idea. But I would miss Shaundi.
The boss wouldn’t let his friends die
Shaundie was caught slipping up twice throughout sr3 storyline, it’s almost a miracle she made it this long in the story.
@@Alecfisher01 he also said he wouldn't be a sell out and they happens in the canon ending
Oleg and Pierce never finished that game......
Bad ending gives me Armstrong energies
-Towering buff opponent
-Takes place in the middle of a burning wreckage
-Opponent gives a monologue where they actually have a point
-And you kill the opponent with your bare hands
The bad ending felt so much better to play than the good one to me, The Daedalus makes an appearance finally after being teased throughout the story and the ending generally felt better.
If the boss was still psychopathic like he used to be in SR2 then the bad ending would be cannon.
What does Canon mean, that's what everyone's saying.
@@brooke2598 its like part of the storyline. if you choose the kill killbane ending, shaundi would be dead, but shes alive in saints row 4, so that means the save shaundi ending is the cannon one.
nah man, as cold and ruthless as the Boss was in SR2, loyalty to his crew was still one of his most defining traits
I mean, he rushed to Carlos' rescue as soon as he found out he's in danger, yeah?
Same with him saving Shaundi from Veteran Child
Sr5 needs to be in stillwater and without powers
but what would it be about
@@Imuglyafhh well in sr4 you kill zinyak and you are not in a simulation and in gat of hell god recreates earth. This means there is no more super powers and you are on earth. I have no idea what the story would be about but all this stuff happened and they cant change that.
@@caskie93 they mentioned in SR4 something about Zinyak's access to time travel and how they were gonna use it to stop the events that happened in saints row iv
@@gabrielbustamante7468 wellthat actually was used by future shaundi to go back in time and save christmas in the DLC for sr4
This sadly won’t happen
*cyrus: gives the boss a death threat*
*boss: love you too*
😂😂😂 lost it at that
So both endings hinted at what was coming for 4 if you think about it. Whenever I replay 3 I always go save Shaundi so seeing the 2ed ending, wow good on the game developers. I mean think about it, you save Shaundi you're making a movie about the Saints going into space. You go after Killbane, the player talks to Pierce about running for mayor and Steelport basically going into politics
Good ending/ true ending agree?
I love the star wars references
I just realised the Red Faction reference after all this time.
I know.
There is no star wars references in the endings, the Gangstas in Space ending is Red Faction.
@@Volition_To_The_Max Wrong! 6:05 There is a star wars reference.
Bro. Every video you manage to make me smile. Your wholesome
This really lights me up, like a moon would when it's dark. You're awesome, thank you Moon!
No problem man! Your the guy who I should be thanking! You really make my uhh.. space?
I still like the old graphics
@Vanitas yo también lo tengo en switch
I hate multiple endings because no matter which one i pick i always end up regretting my choice.
First ending that i did was saving shaundi when i saw mars cutscene i was like... BRUH so Embarrassing
ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley lmao I see you on every comment. Again stop comparing a video game to real life. The third street saints and the boss are cold hearted and u establish dominance when killing killbane in sr4 u get to see Shaundi. Letting a friend die doesn’t establish shit it’s like any regular day of the saints they let a homie day and that’s it.
Funny thing is that the REAL ending is a mixture of both endings. The Boss kills Killbane while Pierce and the gang save Viola and Shandi while killing Kia. The government blames STAG and decides to go rogue and the rest is pretty much the bad ending.
People should know that if you save Shaundi than she, Viola & Burt lives, Magarac Island is spared & Angel & Kia were killed in the good ending. But if you kill Killbane than he, Shaundi, Viola & Mayor Reynolds die, Angel lives, Kia survives the explosion & the Saints are set up as terrorists by STAG in the bad ending.
Such a legendary ending with no sequel
I agree, no sequel and no reboot. A perfect ending indeed.
If johnny is still alive and the boss picked kill killbane instead of saving shaundi and viola, i bet that would be the first fight scene between johnny and the boss
6:37 I came to Mars to make a living. Keep my head down and stay out of trouble. But I found something here I wasn’t counting on. The Red Faction gave this planet a voice. Mars. Gave us a home.. and a dream of the new world.
Watching the second one is heartbreaking! I had no courage to do it in my game.
I’m living in that 21st Century
The bad ending is actually much better.
I still prefer the old graphics every1 just looks so weird
I like the bad ending more, it's more "saints rowish"
@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley How does it matter? I feel like it fits the bosses personality at least
@ArjenRobben Mr.Wembley Could've sworn this was a game and not real life. Doesn't even matter.
@@pinorska6316 nah, the good ending was a better fit for the boss. Remember when the boss dropped everything to save Carlos?
@@JoeDirtisawsome What did he drop exactly? iirc he wasn't exactly doing anything at the moment so he didn't have a dilemma between killing his enemy and saving his friend. Also boss was way closer to Carlos than he ever was to Viola and Shaundi, even Shaundi said that she didn't expect boss to save her.
I’d rather Shaundi die being honest. Seeing her character change so much for the worse was terrible. There wasn’t even buildup to it. She just, I guess decided to turn total bitch. She gets a throwaway line about how she had no time to relax... but why? She’d never work that much, at least with what I saw in 2. At least if she does it would help us forget the butchery to her character
Why would the stag woman call the the boss instead of just doing and giving him time to stop it and wait at the top where its gonna BLOW!!!? Doesn't make sense.
İt looks like a lot of people forgot an important detail. You can always try to find your enemies to kill them, but you can't revive your homies without God's help.
The alternative ending, Shaundi and Bert was running away the statue before the explosion after defeating Killbane.
I think the one were Killbane dies cus if u kill him Shaunda and Viola will die and that choice just seems imbalanced so i think it would be better to have the whole crew. and honestly i dont care that people think the saints are soft and is it really worth letting your close friends die to prove your not soft or to be badass
Jane Valderama is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Simping is temporary, Freedom is eternal
I personally prefer the Good Ending, not because of the song, because it’s right. Why would the Boss go and kill Kilbane, he’s already ruined his career, by taking his mask off. That’s the one thing that made him an icon. It’s Angel that asks to get Killbane, but Angel is that desperate for him. So it’s his problem, he goes after Killbane. Yes it’s a bit weird at the end that there’s a film about the Saints, going to space.
If this became an actual series, the Boss saves Shaundi, Angel goes after Killbane but loses, Angel gets mad and leaves the Saints for STAG, there’s no movie at the end. Instead the Saints don’t take over the city, they keep the peace with the people, and the mayor. They can still get into gang fights.
Shaundi and Gat are still alive in the 4th one so if you think about it, both endings are good endings no such thing as a bad ending in the 3rd, just think about Shaundi the way that they found out that Jonny Gat was still alive in the 4th one. So we all good 👍🏼. Lol
Great video!
8:19 That one didn't age quite so well
Kill Killbane+Daedalus ending is so much more badass, too bad it's not canon
Like, SR3 Shaundi is useless anyways and is a total bitch, so nothing of value was lost and what was even the point of keeping Viola alive if she didn't even appear in the next game
Rip viola dewynter and shaundi
The true ending and even the good one is when you kill Killbane first and in the mission replay you go save Shaundi
If you kill Eddie you’re the villain
If you save Shaundi you’re the hero
Embrassing ending / True Ending
I like the good ending but I wish they actually finished the movie and you were "watching" it in a theater.
Am I the only one who didnt give two shits about Shaundi and the mayor and chose the first ending just cause of Viola?
The game looks incredible now, save for the face animations
I went for the good ending, but damn the other one looked like Battlefield 2142 redux with some Japanese RA3 going on lol
couldnt choose the simp ending.
I'm shocked that your pc can handle that much graphics our pc cant even watch this as 4k
I’m a bit confused because I’ve played this on PS3 before, saved Shaundi and then played the final mission again and killed Killbane instead - and after that the statue was still in ocean after being blown up. But then on PS4 I done it in reverse, killing Killbane and then replaying it to save Shaundi because I didn’t want her to die...but still when I fly over to the island the statue is in the water like it were blown up...some I’m confused as to if Shaundi is dead or not on my play-through lmao...but it doesn’t matter cause she’s in SR4 right
Yeah same here (except it was pc both times for me)
Game suckss
I chose the Save Shaundi ending because she's important plot-wise.
Is it possible to get the "Good Ending" and kill Killbane at the same time?
In the game no but if you really think about it the Boss could've went to kill Killbane and Price and Olg could've gone to save Shaundi and Viola.
@@yagirlrae7690 True. So I guess that this is a (big) flaw of the story, because if you look at it, the way that both endings are designed is a bit weird. And it's a shame for such a good game to have a buggy story (if such thing exists). Not to say that the game is not worth it because of that, but it could be better, otherwise nothing is perfect and if something is close to perfect, still cannot be perfect for some reason.
Also, Pierce* and Oleg*.
You can unmask him earlier to destroy his pride
I liked the Bad Ending more although it was sad seeing Shaundi die😕
just finished the game on the Switch, the graphics definitely is a lot more watered down compared to the PC version lol. I choose to save the gang and statue.
The emotiom of shaundi dying is super low
All these comments really show me how little people care about this game is bugs and poor build quality outside of the remastered graphics like there’s mobile games that have better physics and car handling
I bet after the saints beat STAG the government launched a nuke at the city.
Why do i feel this was the real ending for the saints and we have a reboot
Both can be canon because sr4 Zin could have grabbed Shaundi
Zin?
Then how would Cyrus have survived
Both are good endings.
Not really beacuse your characters girl friend dies
Skyrim legend Shaundi is too hot to die
Shaundi DYING and you having the option to save her and NOT is definitely not a good ending.
Skyrim legend you say Skyrim legend and u play cod and other games then Skyrim
Corrupted Semen hmm so saving the entirety of steelports population from the sociopaths of stag is bad, oh thanks for letting me know that I should just not interfere stay and not help.
I feel like both endings are the good ending ending you save shaundi and the saints are considered heros but ending 2 i get shaundi and viola die but killbane dies stagg is defeated and that giant hovered thing that was in the air destroying the city gets blown out of the sky and there i think the saints redeem themselves and stagg is defeated
Thx for this
Honestly I don’t like the different endings, it could’ve all been one! Like you go and kill killbane, rescue shaundi, viola and mayor Reynolds and instead of destroying the monument could’ve had Cyrus just have enough of the saints and deploy the warship on his own
I know killing Killbane is more epic and all, but I think it's way too serious considering this is a game where we can play as a toilet or a sex doll...
8:35
Ending Three Way with saving Shaundi is way cooler than chasing Killbane, but the next mission is a cringefest imo and I hated it. Fighting off Daedalus is way better than Gangstas in Space
Really wish the reboot was set after the bad ending and simply called "Saints Row 5"
I don’t really like the new graphics because they didn’t change their models when they talk so it doesn’t look realistic, they don’t really portray any emotion like the old one
wait?? i'm confused how the hell do kia know all the crew who die in saints row 1 and 2??
Who knows but it does piss the player enough to enjoy her death.
I really liked it because she saying all the people you failed to protect from 1 and 2
I think those deaths were public domain. When Carlos dies you can also hear it in the news, for instance, iirc.
She did her homework. "Know your enemy" as they say
When they make SR5 they need to make it seem like 4 was a big ass dream or something and in reality they’re back running Stillwater or a new map Bc they’re probably taking forever with 5 because they can’t come up with a hosted storyline that’ll make since all Bc ALIENS being in SR4 but I love the fact the boss was president
Wish that actually happened instead of the new sr shitty game
Lin and Carlos 😭
For me the "bad" ending is canon. Because this way there is no episode 4.
They made Cyrus Temple look like dracula
@@fansee1368 all the old saints row characters looked like hasbro toys
i wasnt able to let shaudi die so here i am to see the alternate ending
Did you know the bad ending is a refrance to saints row 4
7:55
God i regret my decision of dressing up as the gameshow cat guy in the final act of the game
Game looked really good, a lil buggy but thats what made Saints Row fun asl
13:10 - 14:05 What is that song playing in the background? It was never FULLY released, except a small part of it for the phone ringtone. Can someone remove the voices somehow and just leave the background music in?
Bad ending is more SR1 and 2, it feel better.
But, how does Shaundy comes back in SR4 if she dies on 3rd? I good ending canon?
End from game 10:58
13:47 too cute for a gang boss lmao
So the only time the boss' ringtone aint present is durin the best ending
Should’ve took his mask
i cant watch any saints row playthrough after getting attached to my character
Canon ending is saving the crew 'just sharing'
And killing Eddie is the sad(because Shaundi died) alternate canon ending 'I say canon because multiple universe(from saints 4)'