this game had problems regarding clunky movement and controls, but i was too young and inexperienced in video games to notice it back when i played it. i would play this game for hours in elementary school, and then went on to play co-op with my little brother when i reached middle school. lots of good memories.
Same! I have a lot of fond memories with this game's co-op and multiplayer. I still remember buying it at the 360 release and trying to figure out how the new controllers worked. It gets way more flak than deserved.
@@ravneo Bro the controlls are exactly how they supposed to be thats how the developers intend it to play. Its not clunky or anything thats how they made it. You realy think they just made clunky controlls and be like here you go play it stupid ass people like you dont think lol
1. It's every level where the music changed dynamically. 2. I messaged the composer and he doesn't seem to care. 3. Even the Xbox 360 digital version has the issue. 4. You have to use the disc version with no updates. (I typed out a mile long message and UA-cam deleted it.)
It's not that the composer doesn't care, but he has no power to do anything. The issue was known back in 2006 and they didn't bother to fix it, possibly due to Microsoft not funding updates or whatever.
@@johnbartender3451 It didn't last more than the first few years thankfully. I liked the spirit of it (encouraged the shipping of a polished game), but it caused more problems than it solved.
Glad you went into detail about the differences, I always thought something was off about the Rare Replay version from when I originally played it on my 360 back in the day. I guess the positive outlook is the game wasn't that good to begin with so it's not a huge loss
Yeah... but it's also sad how this is the only version available to many now. Music alone really improves the experience a lot. The game is pretty fun to play still specially with stable framerate and higher resolution, coop was always fun.
@@Graslu00 Yeah, arguably one of the most enjoyable things from Rare's games were their amazing soundtracks. While I hope they do, I really doubt Rare will ever fix it, mostly because while this is more an issue now than ever, it's technically been an issue for 14 years. Ironic, games now are released broken and then patched later, back then seems to be the other way around
@@Graslu00 Yeah that's fair, if anything it's interesting just seeing the differences between things. Like those videos comparing pre-releases to final builds. It's pretty intriguing. Brings awareness too
Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention! I have been playing the updated one for SO long I had no idea it even sounded like this originally anymore (despite playing 100's of hours when it first came out!).
The sensibility in this game was so strange it felt like playing in a tv with 30ms of input lag. And there was no tweak that could help, there was a general sens. tops 100, and x and y that topped 100 values. nothing felt different just the acceleration, it was too slow to turn and you had to wait for the acceleration to come out and move faster. I had to play mostly aiming with the strife exclusively. I still enjoyed the iteration, it i was not the best try to reignite the franchise but it was enough to bring back memories from the n64 era even the prerenders and 3d models felt old lol, hopefully the new one is still missions and living maps like Hitman, cause if it is not it is going to be whatever.
Agreed, this game had a ton of problems but the horrible controls were something I can still remember to this day. Although seeing those character models in 2020...yikes dawg...
Yeah the game seems to have bad input delay issues, hard to get used to but still possible. I hope the new one just tries to be like the original, I wouldn't be a huge fan of a Hitman-like PD game where stealth is the main objective imo. Same for Project 007.
There was another level in the game not shown here with missing music (Mansion Infiltration). Noticing this back in 2006 was so weird when I played this and I'm baffled that they never bothered to fix it. Glad I'm not the only one that cared about this snafu.
Yeah I haven't shown all the missing levels, there are many others, the infiltration level as you mentioned, the bridge, even the nightclub iirc. It's a shame, hope enough awareness is raised but most likely nothing will be done. In the Spanish version they also broke some dialogues so they wouldn't speak.
@@Graslu00 I think the Nightclub and Bridge levels are still intact. It just seems that each level that has a change between stealth and combat music are the ones that got screwed. Sucks cause its still some pretty good music.
@@WonRull The music is there in the Nightclub level, but it cuts out if you trigger the fire alarm objective. I thought that might have been intentional but after watching this video I'm not so sure.
The Perfect Dark reboot better have the concept of the level design of this game. In PDZ you can make or at least chose your own path and how you can complete your main or secondary objectives with the accesory or weapons that you choose for your mission.
@@007spudman the fuck. how can you assume it will be another CoD clone? Have you even watched the initiave interview that they gave about the PD reboot?
I had this game since i was a kid. This was the only game i always played late nights, home from school every single day, everywhere i went this game stayed on my mind. It aint just nostalgia like other people would say. This was way before i even knew that term nostalgia. But that nostalgia i realized is so fucking strong. But because of the Fucking Music how good it is not WAS. The graphics, the reflection off of objects like Weapons, wall textures, i remember how that feeling was when i first got this game. Crazy its still there. It all started with IGN videos on it called Plaza, then Rooftops, Trench, Gasplant. Basically they used the new multiplayer map names on the video. And this was all when IGN website use to be darkish blue tone skin themed back in the days. I watched videos on it on ign constantly. At the time i didnt have an Xbox 360 but after a while before christmas my dad got me an Xbox 360 and the Perfect Dark Zero Collectors Edition Metal Case. Him and my big brother came down and it was a suprise. I knew what it was already but. Shit i waited and waited for night time to pass so i didnt go to sleep until hella late. Finaly woke up got started and that was the beginning it all started from ign. Every other game i see coming out may not be for me nowadays. Again its not JUST NOSTAGIA but it IS NOSTALGIA like i said before this was way before i knew the term. Yet today i play the game Daily (Old old old old ass game but I DONT care) it became my Signature Game because the effect it gave me from the beginning up to now. It never gets old. The Multiplayer is where i spend COUNTLESS HOURS on. I say my signature game also because of how damn long iv played it still have it. Its a special game that has the first place in my heart. Now the FIRST GAME THO. Boooy ohhh boy. I can go on and on and on and ON about this series. People say im crazy for not having a Xbox one but. It is what it is. This is one of those games i need to seriously RACK UP on. I need a Full Box STACKED with perfect dark zero. I also decided to get the original perfect dark on Xbox360 to finally just to add to the Perfect dark Xbox360 title. No when i say i fucking love this shit i mean that shit. I have other games i love thats old but. This here when we are talking about first person shooters. This is what comes to my mind. Other games thats my favorite thats not on and is on 360 in No Order. Nfs carbon Tomb Raider Angel of darkness Tomb raider anniversary Tomb raider legend The entire Midnight Club club series Marble blast ultra Need for speed underground 2 Ridge racer 6 Turok 2 Seeds Of Evil Quake 2 Goldeneye N64 Grand Theft Auto IV (Gta4) Others. Perfect dark zero is definitely FIRST tho. This game takes up all the computation. I spent countless hours on and made many purchases on this game back then when it would mess up on me. Thats fucking love. I got so much to say about this game
I tried it on the Xbox360 today, I played it's multiplayer (alone with bots) with 10 bots on the desert map, graphics look good for it's time, aiming is easy with the auto-aim when you aim close to an enemy's body, melee moves (sometimes they feel unresponsive) and secundary fire are a good adition, I like the fact that you can roll around corners to scout for enemies and to aim at them before you see them, there is good weapon variety and getting headshots feels good, there is also dual pistols that are very fun to use, I don't get what all the negativity is about, I have had fun in the 30 minutes I played it, almost every reviewer in this platform says that the game is bad and I shouldn't try it, after I tried it I have to say, as a fps is all right in my honest/humble opinion.
@@lee_the_underground_producer I tried it yesterday night on Xenia emulator of the Xbox360 and you can ran the game at 60 fpss (I believe it's the same for the series X), the only downsides I could find are missing sounds at times (I heard on the series X there are also sound problems) and corpses not despawning correctly, but other than that it's much easier to aim at 60 fpss and the game run buttery smooth, I would recommend it to anyone who wants to have mindless fun and disconnect from reality for a bit.
@@johnbartender3451 yeah bro. Do you man. Forget what other people think. Enjoy the game in the way you like that's what gaming was all about and is. I constantly switch from my Xbox series x to Xbox 360 from now and then as well. Still to this day I play it often. 🔥 On any console
I think many people did but either never bothered posting online or just noticed something was wrong without knowing what. Also the future re-releases of the game like the digital version or Platinum Hits comes with this patch pre-installed, so for many people they always experienced the game this way.
This the one thing I noticed as well I played this a while back on my Xbox one and the music that played in levels didn’t play on my Xbox one but played on my 360 this was fun when this first came out me and my cousin played this back then he had a 360
The engine Rare used starting with Star Fox adventures and Conkers Live and Reloaded to Kameo/Perfect Dark Zero/Nuts and Bolts/Viva Pinata is amazing and timeless. Playing Kameo and PDZ on Xenia at 4k and you would swear these games came out 6-7 years ago not 24
PDZ is such a mess (regarding the single-player and the controls). And why couldn't we listen to the soundtrack while playing in multiplayer like in PD 64 ? (because the soundtrack is actually great). It's also details like this that show how much rushed this game was.
i played this on rare replay and i want to say some of this music ive never heard before, although it has been a while since ive played through the campaign. luckily i got the "limited" edition of the game later on since i thought the game was pretty neat, so i'll give that a go. rip good framerate though
Because I dont collect physical games anymore and I have gone the rgh route, I’m comparing both the rev 1 and whatever release is on rom site to figure which one is the correct version. This game have flaws, but is full of personality. Not bad ! Edit: dont use the Rev 1 version, use the other one WITHOUT title update (smaller files size).
I only *just* played this game my first time late April or early May, and honestly thought the several points of silence were intentional. Tbh I almost prefer it, but I got to admit that now that I know, its a a fact that'll probably bug me. Can't say Im exactly impressed by anything but what I played of the game I honestly kinda liked, my first console was a 360 but I missed out on most of its library, only finally getting a chance to see it after being gifted that black Slim model a year or two back. I cant help but be fascinated by the systems launch titles especially, which if I'm right Perfect Dark Zero was one of them?
Yes, PDZ was a launch title and the reason I got an Xbox back in 2005 so I have a special spot for it despite its understandable mixed reception. I have fond memories of the singleplayer campaign and its soundtrack, so playing it today with the update just feels completely wrong. Co-Op and multiplayer was real fun.
@Graslu00 Yeah I cant help but like it too. I can definitely see why you'd have a soft spot for it, and this is despite the fact that i was basically playing a worse version of the game. I might bite the bullet and get the cd soundtrack, too. Any thoughts on the new game they'd announced back in 2020?
@@rem9142 I don't have any hopes for the new game. If it doesn't follow the original formula both N64 and Zero had, it's just not Perfect Dark. Welcome surprise if it turns out good.
Do you happen to know which update in particular breaks it? I have title update #3 installed on my old 360 and was planning on playing through this sometime soon.
No I'm not sure, I'm fairly sure it comes with the map pack #1. If you want the music you should just play an outdated version by removing the updates from your PD:Z files.
So the Rare Replay version has better framerate?? I have a Series x and I want to try this game. So should I buy the original Xbox 360 version and play it on Series X? Or the Rare Replay version on Series X?
@@EvilGeniusRANIK Rare Replay is the same version as if you play with the Xbox 360 disc. There's no difference. Framerate is better on the Series X but the point of this video is that you miss out on most of the soundtrack. The only way to enjoy this game properly is on an original Xbox 360 or emulated on PC.
Dude I can't believe it, that's why many missions were so boring, empty and even with kinda scary vibres, that music was missing and it is so awesome, really makes the game feel different, I will try to play the game without any patch now, do you know if the disc from the Special Edition has the music?
Special Edition should have it, the one that doesn't is the platinum hits or whatever their name was. You have to play it on a 360 offline for it to work.
For the original PD XBLA there's no difference between 360 and Xbox One aside of controls. For Zero the original release from 2005 is better than the updated versions, but you can only play this one on a 360 console.
There's the Rare Replay one and the original release. Both are the same version as they just update to the latest version available. Only way to play the 2005 release version is on a 360 and asking it to not update.
So some ambience music is lost.... is it really that big a deal? The shit rolling system that leads to poor gameplay overall, the horrendous difficulty on highest setting. Yes I know its meant to be hard but when enemies can spot you 50 metres away when you are BEHIND them and can shoot you from the hip with laser accuracy.... that aint difficult, its cheap. So glad I only have 2 co op achievements to go and I'm rid of this game forever. Awesome soundtrack though, can't deny that.
It completely changes the ambience of the game on stealth missions, so I do feel like it's big of a deal, the game feels incredibly empty without it specially if you played it at release like me and remember it fondly. Dark Agent's difficulty is bs and requires you to use the same weapons thorough most of the game but I still find this game to be really fun in co-op and Perfect Agent. Xbox One / Series S and X also benefits greatly from improved framerate and resolution - although the awkward input delay is still there.
At a certain extent yeah the graphics were amazing. I just never liked the rubbery looking character models. But during the early period of this generation, almost every other game had rubbery looking character models. Even Joanna's arms and trigger finger would get longer or shorter depending on the gun. For some reason it literally makes me feel sick.
..I've the steelcase one, guess I'd better uninstall+compare discs now and tell my x360 don't fucking update!? Musics.. don't play? How can they oversight such badly..
The collector's edition and original release both have working music in the base game if you don't update. If you ever updated you can simply delete the update files from your 360 and it'll work again although you'll have to tell Xbox to not update it every time and stay offline, sadly.
@@Graslu00 Admittedly I've never saw past the opening stage don't know where I stopped, and been a while since I've powered it up except to clear durn Tony Hawk American Wasteland campaign, I guess updates are stored separately aside from the game install
The graphics stood pretty well for a mid-00's game
this game had problems regarding clunky movement and controls, but i was too young and inexperienced in video games to notice it back when i played it. i would play this game for hours in elementary school, and then went on to play co-op with my little brother when i reached middle school. lots of good memories.
Same! I have a lot of fond memories with this game's co-op and multiplayer. I still remember buying it at the 360 release and trying to figure out how the new controllers worked. It gets way more flak than deserved.
I'm playing the game now and damn the controls are really bad, but other then that the game isnt bad.
@@ravneo Bro the controlls are exactly how they supposed to be thats how the developers intend it to play. Its not clunky or anything thats how they made it. You realy think they just made clunky controlls and be like here you go play it stupid ass people like you dont think lol
1. It's every level where the music changed dynamically.
2. I messaged the composer and he doesn't seem to care.
3. Even the Xbox 360 digital version has the issue.
4. You have to use the disc version with no updates.
(I typed out a mile long message and UA-cam deleted it.)
It's not that the composer doesn't care, but he has no power to do anything. The issue was known back in 2006 and they didn't bother to fix it, possibly due to Microsoft not funding updates or whatever.
@@Graslu00 Maybe Microsoft as the publisher didn't want to pay themselves the silly $40,000 patching fee that they charged during the 360 era, lol.
@@LeoA260040k $ to patch a game ? Thats crazy.
@@johnbartender3451 It didn't last more than the first few years thankfully. I liked the spirit of it (encouraged the shipping of a polished game), but it caused more problems than it solved.
Glad you went into detail about the differences, I always thought something was off about the Rare Replay version from when I originally played it on my 360 back in the day. I guess the positive outlook is the game wasn't that good to begin with so it's not a huge loss
Yeah... but it's also sad how this is the only version available to many now. Music alone really improves the experience a lot.
The game is pretty fun to play still specially with stable framerate and higher resolution, coop was always fun.
@@Graslu00 Yeah, arguably one of the most enjoyable things from Rare's games were their amazing soundtracks. While I hope they do, I really doubt Rare will ever fix it, mostly because while this is more an issue now than ever, it's technically been an issue for 14 years. Ironic, games now are released broken and then patched later, back then seems to be the other way around
@@nonsensicalfox Yeah it's a long shot. If anything I just want evidence of this online.
@@Graslu00 Yeah that's fair, if anything it's interesting just seeing the differences between things. Like those videos comparing pre-releases to final builds. It's pretty intriguing. Brings awareness too
Act your age Joanna.
Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention! I have been playing the updated one for SO long I had no idea it even sounded like this originally anymore (despite playing 100's of hours when it first came out!).
I love the plasma rifle, because the enemies made funny screaming
I remember talking to someone about this in a PDZ comment section months ago glad too see you made a video about it
In his time, this game was from another world, i use to play it with my brothers by hours
The sensibility in this game was so strange it felt like playing in a tv with 30ms of input lag. And there was no tweak that could help, there was a general sens. tops 100, and x and y that topped 100 values. nothing felt different just the acceleration, it was too slow to turn and you had to wait for the acceleration to come out and move faster. I had to play mostly aiming with the strife exclusively.
I still enjoyed the iteration, it i was not the best try to reignite the franchise but it was enough to bring back memories from the n64 era even the prerenders and 3d models felt old lol, hopefully the new one is still missions and living maps like Hitman, cause if it is not it is going to be whatever.
Agreed, this game had a ton of problems but the horrible controls were something I can still remember to this day. Although seeing those character models in 2020...yikes dawg...
Yeah the game seems to have bad input delay issues, hard to get used to but still possible.
I hope the new one just tries to be like the original, I wouldn't be a huge fan of a Hitman-like PD game where stealth is the main objective imo. Same for Project 007.
The controls are PERFECT if you turn off "Fast Look" and set the sensitivity to 100.
There was another level in the game not shown here with missing music (Mansion Infiltration). Noticing this back in 2006 was so weird when I played this and I'm baffled that they never bothered to fix it. Glad I'm not the only one that cared about this snafu.
Yeah I haven't shown all the missing levels, there are many others, the infiltration level as you mentioned, the bridge, even the nightclub iirc.
It's a shame, hope enough awareness is raised but most likely nothing will be done. In the Spanish version they also broke some dialogues so they wouldn't speak.
@@Graslu00 I think the Nightclub and Bridge levels are still intact. It just seems that each level that has a change between stealth and combat music are the ones that got screwed. Sucks cause its still some pretty good music.
@@WonRull hmm maybe, I'd have to check my playthrough again to make sure.
@@WonRull The music is there in the Nightclub level, but it cuts out if you trigger the fire alarm objective. I thought that might have been intentional but after watching this video I'm not so sure.
@@vehiclegames2695 That's supposed to happen if you hit the fire alarm.
This game looks way better than I remember it. Not just graphics but the general presentation of the levels and such.
The new game better be nothing like this
Fucking hope not
Amen. 😔
The Perfect Dark reboot better have the concept of the level design of this game. In PDZ you can make or at least chose your own path and how you can complete your main or secondary objectives with the accesory or weapons that you choose for your mission.
@@caliptus85That's the only thing from this game it better have. Probably another CoD clone.
@@007spudman the fuck. how can you assume it will be another CoD clone? Have you even watched the initiave interview that they gave about the PD reboot?
I had this game since i was a kid. This was the only game i always played late nights, home from school every single day, everywhere i went this game stayed on my mind. It aint just nostalgia like other people would say. This was way before i even knew that term nostalgia. But that nostalgia i realized is so fucking strong. But because of the Fucking Music how good it is not WAS. The graphics, the reflection off of objects like Weapons, wall textures, i remember how that feeling was when i first got this game. Crazy its still there. It all started with IGN videos on it called Plaza, then Rooftops, Trench, Gasplant. Basically they used the new multiplayer map names on the video. And this was all when IGN website use to be darkish blue tone skin themed back in the days. I watched videos on it on ign constantly. At the time i didnt have an Xbox 360 but after a while before christmas my dad got me an Xbox 360 and the Perfect Dark Zero Collectors Edition Metal Case. Him and my big brother came down and it was a suprise. I knew what it was already but. Shit i waited and waited for night time to pass so i didnt go to sleep until hella late. Finaly woke up got started and that was the beginning it all started from ign. Every other game i see coming out may not be for me nowadays. Again its not JUST NOSTAGIA but it IS NOSTALGIA like i said before this was way before i knew the term. Yet today i play the game Daily (Old old old old ass game but I DONT care) it became my Signature Game because the effect it gave me from the beginning up to now. It never gets old. The Multiplayer is where i spend COUNTLESS HOURS on. I say my signature game also because of how damn long iv played it still have it. Its a special game that has the first place in my heart. Now the FIRST GAME THO. Boooy ohhh boy. I can go on and on and on and ON about this series. People say im crazy for not having a Xbox one but. It is what it is. This is one of those games i need to seriously RACK UP on. I need a Full Box STACKED with perfect dark zero. I also decided to get the original perfect dark on Xbox360 to finally just to add to the Perfect dark Xbox360 title. No when i say i fucking love this shit i mean that shit. I have other games i love thats old but. This here when we are talking about first person shooters. This is what comes to my mind.
Other games thats my favorite thats not on and is on 360 in No Order.
Nfs carbon
Tomb Raider Angel of darkness
Tomb raider anniversary
Tomb raider legend
The entire Midnight Club club series
Marble blast ultra
Need for speed underground 2
Ridge racer 6
Turok 2 Seeds Of Evil
Quake 2
Goldeneye N64
Grand Theft Auto IV (Gta4)
Others.
Perfect dark zero is definitely FIRST tho. This game takes up all the computation. I spent countless hours on and made many purchases on this game back then when it would mess up on me. Thats fucking love. I got so much to say about this game
I tried it on the Xbox360 today, I played it's multiplayer (alone with bots) with 10 bots on the desert map, graphics look good for it's time, aiming is easy with the auto-aim when you aim close to an enemy's body, melee moves (sometimes they feel unresponsive) and secundary fire are a good adition, I like the fact that you can roll around corners to scout for enemies and to aim at them before you see them, there is good weapon variety and getting headshots feels good, there is also dual pistols that are very fun to use, I don't get what all the negativity is about, I have had fun in the 30 minutes I played it, almost every reviewer in this platform says that the game is bad and I shouldn't try it, after I tried it I have to say, as a fps is all right in my honest/humble opinion.
@@brucefly3612 yeah man. If u play it on the Series X it just enhanced it at 4K looks WAAAAYYY sharper and much cleaner
@@lee_the_underground_producer
I tried it yesterday night on Xenia emulator of the Xbox360 and you can ran the game at 60 fpss (I believe it's the same for the series X), the only downsides I could find are missing sounds at times (I heard on the series X there are also sound problems) and corpses not despawning correctly, but other than that it's much easier to aim at 60 fpss and the game run buttery smooth, I would recommend it to anyone who wants to have mindless fun and disconnect from reality for a bit.
I’m still playing my 360 daily. Sometimes I jump to my ps4 or pc, but I mostly play on 360. Its like comfort food to me.
@@johnbartender3451 yeah bro. Do you man. Forget what other people think. Enjoy the game in the way you like that's what gaming was all about and is. I constantly switch from my Xbox series x to Xbox 360 from now and then as well. Still to this day I play it often. 🔥 On any console
Some scenes lost the sound, remember at the end of mission 7? The final scene has not sound when Chandra receives orders.
Yes, the video only covers some examples of the missing music. Really a shame as it was also some of the important dialogs.
@@Graslu00 Second part plz!!
People keep saying this was a bad game, no it was not, I loved the hell out of it back when it came out, and still do.
i think it just felt incomplete
how come no one noticed this?
I think many people did but either never bothered posting online or just noticed something was wrong without knowing what.
Also the future re-releases of the game like the digital version or Platinum Hits comes with this patch pre-installed, so for many people they always experienced the game this way.
Cause Zero was a turd
Shows how little people care about PD:Z...
This the one thing I noticed as well I played this a while back on my Xbox one and the music that played in levels didn’t play on my Xbox one but played on my 360 this was fun when this first came out me and my cousin played this back then he had a 360
What can we do about this? Gotta be somebody to contact. With eyes back on the franchise now. This may be our only chance
Only Rare has the source code that can make a fix possible. We just need someone at Rare that gives a shit and bothers to look for and fix the bug.
The engine Rare used starting with Star Fox adventures and Conkers Live and Reloaded to Kameo/Perfect Dark Zero/Nuts and Bolts/Viva Pinata is amazing and timeless. Playing Kameo and PDZ on Xenia at 4k and you would swear these games came out 6-7 years ago not 24
they need to update this since they are making a new game
PDZ is such a mess (regarding the single-player and the controls). And why couldn't we listen to the soundtrack while playing in multiplayer like in PD 64 ? (because the soundtrack is actually great). It's also details like this that show how much rushed this game was.
i played this on rare replay and i want to say some of this music ive never heard before, although it has been a while since ive played through the campaign. luckily i got the "limited" edition of the game later on since i thought the game was pretty neat, so i'll give that a go. rip good framerate though
Yeah 360 version suffers from poor framerate sadly. But at least you get the music lol
i love this game so much, i have to stop watching content on it because it is physically affecting my health LMAO
Going down the same rabbit hole tbh
Forced myself through PDZ once on 360 and once on Xbox One. Never played it with the full music. Would have really helped the experience. 😢
Because I dont collect physical games anymore and I have gone the rgh route, I’m comparing both the rev 1 and whatever release is on rom site to figure which one is the correct version.
This game have flaws, but is full of personality. Not bad !
Edit: dont use the Rev 1 version, use the other one WITHOUT title update (smaller files size).
I only *just* played this game my first time late April or early May, and honestly thought the several points of silence were intentional. Tbh I almost prefer it, but I got to admit that now that I know, its a a fact that'll probably bug me. Can't say Im exactly impressed by anything but what I played of the game I honestly kinda liked, my first console was a 360 but I missed out on most of its library, only finally getting a chance to see it after being gifted that black Slim model a year or two back. I cant help but be fascinated by the systems launch titles especially, which if I'm right Perfect Dark Zero was one of them?
Yes, PDZ was a launch title and the reason I got an Xbox back in 2005 so I have a special spot for it despite its understandable mixed reception. I have fond memories of the singleplayer campaign and its soundtrack, so playing it today with the update just feels completely wrong. Co-Op and multiplayer was real fun.
@Graslu00 Yeah I cant help but like it too. I can definitely see why you'd have a soft spot for it, and this is despite the fact that i was basically playing a worse version of the game. I might bite the bullet and get the cd soundtrack, too. Any thoughts on the new game they'd announced back in 2020?
@@rem9142 I don't have any hopes for the new game. If it doesn't follow the original formula both N64 and Zero had, it's just not Perfect Dark. Welcome surprise if it turns out good.
Lol I was not even aware there was an update
hope they can fix this
Do you happen to know which update in particular breaks it? I have title update #3 installed on my old 360 and was planning on playing through this sometime soon.
No I'm not sure, I'm fairly sure it comes with the map pack #1. If you want the music you should just play an outdated version by removing the updates from your PD:Z files.
Play multipayer on the newer consoles and single player on 360 without updates. Then you can do the cover glitch and skip Jungle on dark agent ;-)
The ragdolls in this game are gorgeous
So the Rare Replay version has better framerate?? I have a Series x and I want to try this game. So should I buy the original Xbox 360 version and play it on Series X? Or the Rare Replay version on Series X?
@@EvilGeniusRANIK Rare Replay is the same version as if you play with the Xbox 360 disc. There's no difference. Framerate is better on the Series X but the point of this video is that you miss out on most of the soundtrack. The only way to enjoy this game properly is on an original Xbox 360 or emulated on PC.
Is it possible that the PAL version didnt get the music bug? Because I clearly remember having all the music even late 2006 onwards
I'm from EU so this is the PAL version. Maybe you played on 2006 without updating your game?
Dude I can't believe it, that's why many missions were so boring, empty and even with kinda scary vibres, that music was missing and it is so awesome, really makes the game feel different, I will try to play the game without any patch now, do you know if the disc from the Special Edition has the music?
Special Edition should have it, the one that doesn't is the platinum hits or whatever their name was. You have to play it on a 360 offline for it to work.
That’s interesting
Nobody plays this reason its not addressed :V sorry Graslu don't hate me ok
Shit fuck that my bro. I do. I play daily. And for yeaaaaaars now 😂😂😂
So what is the best version to play? Perfect Dark original or Perfect Dark Rare. Perfect Dark Zero original or Perfect Dark Zero Rare?
For the original PD XBLA there's no difference between 360 and Xbox One aside of controls.
For Zero the original release from 2005 is better than the updated versions, but you can only play this one on a 360 console.
I thought I saw both perfect dark zeros in the Microsoft store "rare" & "xbox360" edition.
There's the Rare Replay one and the original release. Both are the same version as they just update to the latest version available. Only way to play the 2005 release version is on a 360 and asking it to not update.
Ok, I was playing my Xbox series s digital addition looking at old classics I can play
i have the "classics" pal disc release, will this give music on og 360? says 2006 on the disc D:
Sadly not as far as I know. :/
So some ambience music is lost.... is it really that big a deal?
The shit rolling system that leads to poor gameplay overall, the horrendous difficulty on highest setting. Yes I know its meant to be hard but when enemies can spot you 50 metres away when you are BEHIND them and can shoot you from the hip with laser accuracy.... that aint difficult, its cheap.
So glad I only have 2 co op achievements to go and I'm rid of this game forever.
Awesome soundtrack though, can't deny that.
It completely changes the ambience of the game on stealth missions, so I do feel like it's big of a deal, the game feels incredibly empty without it specially if you played it at release like me and remember it fondly.
Dark Agent's difficulty is bs and requires you to use the same weapons thorough most of the game but I still find this game to be really fun in co-op and Perfect Agent. Xbox One / Series S and X also benefits greatly from improved framerate and resolution - although the awkward input delay is still there.
You answered yourself at the end of your comment. How can removing the awesome soundtrack from a game not be a big deal?
Perfect Dark Zero was just a bad game all together. It looked awesome graphically but the gameplay was just trash
PD0 is the perfect example that good graphics don't make a good game.
I still believe it's fun to play, specially in coop and multiplayer. Framerate and controls in the other hand not very good.
At a certain extent yeah the graphics were amazing. I just never liked the rubbery looking character models. But during the early period of this generation, almost every other game had rubbery looking character models. Even Joanna's arms and trigger finger would get longer or shorter depending on the gun. For some reason it literally makes me feel sick.
@@2023PerfectDark Perhaps the motion blur and the input delay.
@@2023PerfectDark it's a funny oversight from the devs part
Such a shame
I don't get it, what is the best version ? Original ? Original with update ? Rare Replay version ?
The original. The update doesn't have music.
@@Graslu00 ah yeah indeed.
I beat this game years ago but it was a bit of a slog, the movement is way too slow, I bet this game would be pretty awesome with a mouse and keyboard
The ragdoll is better than any of Halo's ragdoll
This is the least ambitious rare game
..I've the steelcase one, guess I'd better uninstall+compare discs now and tell my x360 don't fucking update!? Musics.. don't play? How can they oversight such badly..
The collector's edition and original release both have working music in the base game if you don't update. If you ever updated you can simply delete the update files from your 360 and it'll work again although you'll have to tell Xbox to not update it every time and stay offline, sadly.
@@Graslu00 Admittedly I've never saw past the opening stage don't know where I stopped, and been a while since I've powered it up except to clear durn Tony Hawk American Wasteland campaign, I guess updates are stored separately aside from the game install
Leave it to Chadslu00 find some things that are mostly known by other folks.
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Not this time👍
Congrats? Woooo?????
Pior jogo só perfect dark do n64 que presta abraço graslu 😄
Perfect Dark zero really sucks. N64 version much better