Salve Simone, thank you very much for this excellent video!!! How exactly the bonding / aggregation is working on KiloView P1/P2? Does it simple sending the stream from each source (SIM, Wi-Fi, Ethernet) on separate paths to KiloView server where the aggregation obviously is working or is the aggregation already done from the KiloView P1/P2 out of the box to the outside? Trying to find out if the device is using the true multipath TCP or just failover. If you bond the two SIM card in KiloView P1, does it double the stream out rate without the KiloView server? Thank you very much in advance!
Hi Goran, well the bonding is made by the server actually. The encoder itself can work as a standalone encoder, but in that way the connections works as failover, from the higher in performance, like the wired USB to lan adapter, to the lower in performance and signal strenght. Instead when you connect the p1/p2 to the server, is the server itself that work as bonding platfrom, so the signal data rate will be splitted between the connection you made avaliable to the server, you can basically reach up to 5 connection: 2 sim , 2 external dongle with sim/smartphone(hotspot) and wifi also. When you're connected to the bonding server, no matter if one of the connection fail, the signal will stay on without beeing interrupted, as you might see at the end of the video, I hot unplug the lan cable and one of the sim, and the signal won't stop because the server is able to reaggregate the signal and split it between the avaliable connections. If you use as a standalone product, when one of the signal get down, you have a freeze for a small ammount of time (generally few seconds, it depends on how fast the encoder is able to switch to the next avaliable connection ). Hope everything is clear, if you have some more doubts don't hesitate to ask ;)
I've never been able to get kilolink to work, been told its ports but they should be open now and also SRT stream ID. Everything looks okay but it just doesnt push the feed to OBS
I know guide is quite old right now, I'm waiting for a comprehensive release of kilolink that works right out of the box, whenever I will have a release that will be really 100% working I will post a new guide about it. I've actully deployed many servers allover the world in these months... but it's something like one by one troubleshooting unfortunately. I think in a matter of weeks probably we can have something that solves all the actual bugs and I wish I could do a new video guide on it !
If you connect the microconverter on the pc you can modify the SDI level, basically BDM uses level B, but professional gear used level A . So download the converter software for upgrade the firmware on the BDM page, connect your microconverter trough usb and modify that parameter, I'm sure it will solve your problem :)
i want to send a RTMP signal (from gopro) TO this device, have it grab that video signal and then uploaded it over bonded 4g connections to a SRT server on the internet. Any idea if that's possible? Can you *feed* this device a video signal via RTMP instead of a HDMI or (depending on model) SDI signal? I hit the company up about it and they didn't reply, haha. Thanks!
think this isn't the best solution , better you go for a bonding router instead, there's no sense to push an RTMP stream from a single connection to than get bonded by another encoder. Better solution is you use a pc connected to a bonding router and send the stream of your camera via some real low latency protocol like NDI/ NDI hx or connected directly to pc via hdmi , and than stream with a bonding connectivity. P series are basically bonding encoders, so you attach a camera, or a video mixer and stream your content using the bonding server, it is basically a bonding router with encoder capability in some how if we want consider it like that.
@@techthisout3549 hrm, what I want to do is keep the GoPro wireless and mobile for bike ride streams that I can easily take the gopro off the bike and move around a few meters with no cable. I can't easily bring a PC to do the bonding, which is why the p series device looks interesting. The GoPro can stream wirelessly via RTMP which works fine for a local Wireless network, but is not good for a 4g network. Also, if I have mobile network issues it'd be much better to have two sim cards bonded.
@@johnpowell5868 man I use it in 50i for my works , it's not something like I'm not sure 😅 I use it on every work at 50i because we work in broadcasting events! Basically you have an option to tell the encoder to go full frame or go half of the frames when the FPS go over 50 FPS, otherwise you go full at 50i no problem, up to 60p 1080
@@johnpowell5868 the latency from the phiscal sdi connection to the encoding is 67 ms as kiloview manual, then the overall latency in the connection is sttled by the protocol you're going to use actually, as you might now RTMP has a latency, SRT is way faster rtsp it's diffrent again. I mean basically you can set up the latency of your streams one by one according to your needs
You pay the rent for the server provider you chose , but the deployment is free, and the usage of kilolink technology is not under paying license so yes it's free basically.
Salve Simone, thank you very much for this excellent video!!! How exactly the bonding / aggregation is working on KiloView P1/P2? Does it simple sending the stream from each source (SIM, Wi-Fi, Ethernet) on separate paths to KiloView server where the aggregation obviously is working or is the aggregation already done from the KiloView P1/P2 out of the box to the outside? Trying to find out if the device is using the true multipath TCP or just failover. If you bond the two SIM card in KiloView P1, does it double the stream out rate without the KiloView server? Thank you very much in advance!
Hi Goran, well the bonding is made by the server actually. The encoder itself can work as a standalone encoder, but in that way the connections works as failover, from the higher in performance, like the wired USB to lan adapter, to the lower in performance and signal strenght. Instead when you connect the p1/p2 to the server, is the server itself that work as bonding platfrom, so the signal data rate will be splitted between the connection you made avaliable to the server, you can basically reach up to 5 connection: 2 sim , 2 external dongle with sim/smartphone(hotspot) and wifi also. When you're connected to the bonding server, no matter if one of the connection fail, the signal will stay on without beeing interrupted, as you might see at the end of the video, I hot unplug the lan cable and one of the sim, and the signal won't stop because the server is able to reaggregate the signal and split it between the avaliable connections. If you use as a standalone product, when one of the signal get down, you have a freeze for a small ammount of time (generally few seconds, it depends on how fast the encoder is able to switch to the next avaliable connection ). Hope everything is clear, if you have some more doubts don't hesitate to ask ;)
I've never been able to get kilolink to work, been told its ports but they should be open now and also SRT stream ID. Everything looks okay but it just doesnt push the feed to OBS
I know guide is quite old right now, I'm waiting for a comprehensive release of kilolink that works right out of the box, whenever I will have a release that will be really 100% working I will post a new guide about it. I've actully deployed many servers allover the world in these months... but it's something like one by one troubleshooting unfortunately. I think in a matter of weeks probably we can have something that solves all the actual bugs and I wish I could do a new video guide on it !
i have kiloview p1 + blackmagick miniconverter+ sony a7c .(no audio) how to fix it?
If you connect the microconverter on the pc you can modify the SDI level, basically BDM uses level B, but professional gear used level A . So download the converter software for upgrade the firmware on the BDM page, connect your microconverter trough usb and modify that parameter, I'm sure it will solve your problem :)
i want to send a RTMP signal (from gopro) TO this device, have it grab that video signal and then uploaded it over bonded 4g connections to a SRT server on the internet. Any idea if that's possible? Can you *feed* this device a video signal via RTMP instead of a HDMI or (depending on model) SDI signal? I hit the company up about it and they didn't reply, haha. Thanks!
think this isn't the best solution , better you go for a bonding router instead, there's no sense to push an RTMP stream from a single connection to than get bonded by another encoder. Better solution is you use a pc connected to a bonding router and send the stream of your camera via some real low latency protocol like NDI/ NDI hx or connected directly to pc via hdmi , and than stream with a bonding connectivity. P series are basically bonding encoders, so you attach a camera, or a video mixer and stream your content using the bonding server, it is basically a bonding router with encoder capability in some how if we want consider it like that.
@@techthisout3549 hrm, what I want to do is keep the GoPro wireless and mobile for bike ride streams that I can easily take the gopro off the bike and move around a few meters with no cable. I can't easily bring a PC to do the bonding, which is why the p series device looks interesting.
The GoPro can stream wirelessly via RTMP which works fine for a local Wireless network, but is not good for a 4g network. Also, if I have mobile network issues it'd be much better to have two sim cards bonded.
@@techthisout3549hi! What bonding router do you recommand? Thx!
when you disconnect for a moment it looks frozen or with artifacts ? or is it like liveu ?
No it won't stop probably it was a recording issue👍😁
Hello. I am form Bolivia. I have a problem: I can’t login to kilolink server. Can you help I, please. I have kiloview P1.
please add me on fb and send me a PM and I will troubleshoot from remotely facebook.com/simonemessina92
Hello. Can Kilowiev have interlaced output stream 1080i50 or it is only progressive output?
Sure you can output 50i, it's broadcast level transmission, you can have 50/60i and all the different progressive frame rate settings
@@techthisout3549 I didn't see this option in settings. Can you please test this and answer me to be 100% sure?
@@johnpowell5868 man I use it in 50i for my works , it's not something like I'm not sure 😅 I use it on every work at 50i because we work in broadcasting events! Basically you have an option to tell the encoder to go full frame or go half of the frames when the FPS go over 50 FPS, otherwise you go full at 50i no problem, up to 60p 1080
@@techthisout3549 OK thankjs. How about latency?
@@johnpowell5868 the latency from the phiscal sdi connection to the encoding is 67 ms as kiloview manual, then the overall latency in the connection is sttled by the protocol you're going to use actually, as you might now RTMP has a latency, SRT is way faster rtsp it's diffrent again. I mean basically you can set up the latency of your streams one by one according to your needs
Hello, can you provide a link to rent a server for p1
grazie...tienes una guia rapida de como conectar a youtube ?? como colocar el canal y la contraseña---gracias
Hello, is the bonding service free ?
You pay the rent for the server provider you chose , but the deployment is free, and the usage of kilolink technology is not under paying license so yes it's free basically.
is it possible to send Video over WiFi by RTMP (from Phone or GoPro for example) to the Encoder or can it just accept Video from SDI/HDMI?
Only HDMI and SDI
@@techthisout3549 Thanks