Wait - Immolate does more DMG than UA?!? I guess the Destro Talents buff Immolate? Still feels really shitty that our crowning glory Afflic talent is rendered 100% pointless.
6:37 I think you may be underestimating everlasting affliction. It's a MASSIVE mana saver over the course of long fights. In a 5 minute fight it saves you casting corruption TWENTY times, which saves you 20 GCDs and 4500 mana.
Looking at the sims, It seems that Immolation Aura + Immolate actually does more DPS than Unstable Affliction (Small difference, but Immolate benefitting from Ruin while UA doesnt makes a big difference)
Haunt does not affect shadow bolt damage nor does it currently (bugged) affect unstable affliction. The tooltip says it only affects periodic damage, not all shadow damage.
I'm not aware of anyone who has confirmed that. Maybe a giga-chad warlock can confirm that for us. UA was actually pretty bad when data mined, I'm not sure if it was changed at all. Also, UA doesn't scale with much of the AFF tree, so immolate might actually be better. Here's a reddit post about it from a week ago: www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1box6k1/unstable_affliction_will_do_350_damage_at_level_50/
Nice job tho I would change demonic pact for everlasting affliction and with the way the boss fights are looking I think demonic tactics is the way to go because it doesn't look like you will be able to keep up master channeler 100% of the time imo but talent build is def the way to go
Guys, don't raid as affliction. It's absolute garbage. Also, Felguard drastically outperforms Imp, even with Imp talents. This might change when they buff Life Tap this coming week, but it'll still be worth testing.
Everything I'm seeing on warcraft logs is imp still. What logs are you referring to? Top 5 logs world right now are all running imp still. The only way felguard does more damage than imp right now is if you put points into demo, which would of course reduce your overall dmg.
yeah man until blizzard give them a special runes that make them stronger or buff UA i dont see affli good , iswear they make SP so great but locks they dont care about it
Was ST yesterday and played nightfall/ruin build. First 2 bosses my runes were pandemic/demonic tactics/demonic impact/haunt/UA/demonic knowledge and the dmg was not that great. About 350-400 dps. then i swapped demonic impact for evelasting affliction and did on par with the shadow priest in our grp doing 450-500+. The poblem here is to sacrifice the dmg from you party into yours. If everybody does good dmg, i think swapping runes there is fine then. fights are long and you dont have to rerfresh corruption its a huge + there.
@@Urteilsdrache I’ve been playing around with a few builds as well.. even going down to siphon and taking the 5/5 shadow damage skills. I’ll try everlasting as soon as I get it. I even want to try soul siphon for pump n dump fights with everlasting just to see.
immolate and UA cant be on the target at the same time ...
Update: Looks like Immolate out performs UA. Looks like we're running Immolate now.
@@RealmGamingWoW does that mean we run Fel Guard instead of unstable affliction rune or does that rune slot just not matter now
Wait - Immolate does more DMG than UA?!? I guess the Destro Talents buff Immolate? Still feels really shitty that our crowning glory Afflic talent is rendered 100% pointless.
@@matthewframpton8737 true
Can't compete with destro even with affliction buffs don't even try it
6:37 I think you may be underestimating everlasting affliction. It's a MASSIVE mana saver over the course of long fights. In a 5 minute fight it saves you casting corruption TWENTY times, which saves you 20 GCDs and 4500 mana.
Very good point! Thanks for this info!
Might be a point if you have another lock doing pact. Since most locks do destro, u need to have it as affli. So no EA anyways.
Looking at the sims, It seems that Immolation Aura + Immolate actually does more DPS than Unstable Affliction (Small difference, but Immolate benefitting from Ruin while UA doesnt makes a big difference)
Haunt does not affect shadow bolt damage nor does it currently (bugged) affect unstable affliction. The tooltip says it only affects periodic damage, not all shadow damage.
Thanks for this info!!
@@RealmGamingWoW Haunt effects UA, tested it just few minutes ago
Also does immo take prio over unstable affliction because Ruin crits? heard you can snapshot it like crazy with that +30% crit rune
I'm not aware of anyone who has confirmed that. Maybe a giga-chad warlock can confirm that for us.
UA was actually pretty bad when data mined, I'm not sure if it was changed at all. Also, UA doesn't scale with much of the AFF tree, so immolate might actually be better.
Here's a reddit post about it from a week ago:
www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1box6k1/unstable_affliction_will_do_350_damage_at_level_50/
Has anyone tried invocation over grimoire of sinergy? If timed well, it can result in big dmg
Nice job tho I would change demonic pact for everlasting affliction and with the way the boss fights are looking I think demonic tactics is the way to go because it doesn't look like you will be able to keep up master channeler 100% of the time imo but talent build is def the way to go
Thanks for the tip!
shadowbolt is not effected by Haunt
UA being buff for 120% dmg is insane
Yes I saw that, so happy to see it!
Do you play warlock? I don’t see any gameplay in your guides
Curse of shadow?
Not necessary with a shadow priest's new eyeball pet. Gives a 10% shadow damage buff
With shadow priest pets should you just run curse of agony if you have another lock in raid using elements? Recklessness is from the priest minions
I don't think priest minions give armor reduction right?
@@RealmGamingWoW they give armor reduction
@@RealmGamingWoW homunculi minions give recklessness
do u think this build can compet with fire one ?
I saw aflis parsing at 84 idk of the guy was a God but he was in the same dps as the destro
@@sebalagos3930 did u remember the build ?
fire destro build is 7-10% more dmg.
@@basmong ok thx si not enough to be worry about that
Are the affliction playing the same build in this vidéo ?
We might even see some corruption snapshot play this phase too once we get the trinkets and gear I was seeing
I'm pretty sure snapshotting dots doesnt work in this version of WoW.
I'm almost positive corruption snapshots spell power
All im seeing is no one has an actual Affliction guide lol but nice Destro build
do u think this build is strong enough for suken temple ?
Atleast on the 3rd boss really strong
@@imora6247 Hope I can affli Even on other boss lol
@@nicolas204 yeah i hope the same :D
Gonna have 2 specs: fire destro and Nightfall/Ruin. Will check tomorrow this affli dot build.
We have dual spec now, so can trying some builds and respec to fire build if necessary.
Guys, don't raid as affliction. It's absolute garbage. Also, Felguard drastically outperforms Imp, even with Imp talents. This might change when they buff Life Tap this coming week, but it'll still be worth testing.
Why imp and not felguard? Whys everyone doing this improve imp bs?
Because it's better. 8000 effective health through blood pact for your raid is invaluable.
@@RealmGamingWoW isn't that the tank and healer's job to worry about health? As a DPS why would you sacrifice dmg to help them?
Everything I'm seeing on warcraft logs is imp still. What logs are you referring to? Top 5 logs world right now are all running imp still.
The only way felguard does more damage than imp right now is if you put points into demo, which would of course reduce your overall dmg.
Affli sucks bigtime. Tried it and its still super underwhelming
yeah man until blizzard give them a special runes that make them stronger or buff UA i dont see affli good , iswear they make SP so great but locks they dont care about it
devs hate warlocks.Thats all
@@КалоянДимитров-н2х yep
@@Psyko94 Sp is warlock on steroids.They have all our stuff but much stronger.Bliz must delete the warlock clas
destruction is still better sadly
Proof?
Destro is far too boring I had to roll affliction.. looking around at other players builds.
Was ST yesterday and played nightfall/ruin build.
First 2 bosses my runes were pandemic/demonic tactics/demonic impact/haunt/UA/demonic knowledge and the dmg was not that great. About 350-400 dps.
then i swapped demonic impact for evelasting affliction and did on par with the shadow priest in our grp doing 450-500+. The poblem here is to sacrifice the dmg from you party into yours. If everybody does good dmg, i think swapping runes there is fine then.
fights are long and you dont have to rerfresh corruption its a huge + there.
@@Urteilsdrache I’ve been playing around with a few builds as well.. even going down to siphon and taking the 5/5 shadow damage skills. I’ll try everlasting as soon as I get it. I even want to try soul siphon for pump n dump fights with everlasting just to see.