It’s interesting that board manufacturers pushed back when you didn’t give glowing reviews. Casts a little doubt on other reviewers that never give bad reviews.
@@KalesBroccoli you mean the big board brands that bring out new models every year that are the result of finally cracking the secret sauce of paddle power and performance so we can catch everything from ankle high mush to 85ft Nazare barrels....that this might just be marketing?! That maybe, there's a chance, I might never surf even close to anything like JJF?! :)
That s how the world works, it s up to us to be honest and push for the truth and not support any that biaise the truth (ie naming the dishonest people)
The incredibly rude reply from a board manufacturer on Kale’s last video really showed how some must have insecurity issues or something! Did you see it? They called him like a used car sales man or something. 🙄
Kale, once again thanks you for taking the time to produce a great twin fin production and thanks to the board shapers for their collaboration. Looking forward for the next episode
The Album Lightbender was definitely the board your surfing looked smoother on, with more flow, no hickups, just smooth transitions. Hope it gets to the final!
I love me a good twin.. As a "backyard shaper" I've put a fair amount of time into refining my performance twin. It's also worth mentioning too, the style of twin. A fish is totally different to a performance twin. If you're ever back in WA, come test ride mine.. :P
The interesting thing is, a wider tail with less toe-in on the fin boxes and running keels is amazing, but completely different from what is being tested in these reviews. It kind of feels like the twin fin setups in the tests is an 'in-between' board; not a thruster/quad, not a real fish. IMO, these things are more of a marketing ploy by the board manufacturers to further segment the surfboard market. Plug twin fins into your beefier (higher volume) thruster and leave the trailing fin out and compare that to the boards in your test. You might be quite surprised at how fun that board rides.
Another great vid! I think you’d get less shaper backlash if where there’s a board you aren’t too keen on you then gave it to a friend (of similar size/ability) to try out and get a second opinion. If they come back with the same feedback (e.g. super boggy rails) then you’re in the clear and if not, can just comment that it’s likely due to your own style/preferences 🤷♂️
If you can't express your opinion online, there is something wrong. Don't accept passive censorship. We have the right to express our opinion no matter if one like it or not as long as you don't try to intentionally harm someone.
I have to say I have the utmost respect for Chilli and Hayden. International brands are difficult to come by here in South Africa and while I haven't surfed a JS or DHD both my Chilli and HS worked exceptionally well from the very first wave. I couldn't gel with the CI and Pyzel's that I tried. Regarding twinnies themselves, if they were available here I'd only trust and want to ride HS and please Lord, an Album! Enjoy the easily available options you guys have, even though they're expensive, they're worth it. Kale, your production has gone up a notch, it was already good but now it's fantastic. Keep it up man!
My 5,6 JS psycho nitro works just fine thanks 🌞 MR twin and trailer feel loose but can still get plenty of bite and drive through turns. Literally surf it in everything from ankle biters to overhead no worries
Yeah now Kale! Keep up the good work mate! I've been riding a twin for the last 4 years. Best part is it's from the early 80's. By far one of me favorite boards! Yew! G⭐ 🤙
Loving the series Kale! Keep doing what you’re doing & as said previously different surfing styles match with different board attributes. I’ve been suuuuuper interested in the “secret” SharpEye twin since Noel reviewed it. If I could add one observation- it looks like you’re surfing it off the back foot too much. Foot too far back & losing that drive on the top turns. Try keeping your back foot Forward a little & I bet it will light up even more! Can’t wait for the next episode Buddy!!
As a new twinnie rider my ears perked up at that closing comment regarding backside twin fin surfing. After about 5 years off of surfing (kids and life) I thought my backside game fell off but ill have to stay tuned and see 👀
Great work Kale. The sharpeye looked super electric! Super high performance. Important to emphasise what style of surfing someone is looking for. Are we looking for a cruiser, ala the lane splitter, or a performance machine??? Looking forward to the rest of the series!
I think the Sharp Eye has looked the best under your feet so far, but I saw the clip on IG of the CO Twin Pin and you looked pretty aggressive on that board as well. Thanks for the honest feedback 🙏🏼
Just sharing my experience with a Flat Earth from Akila Aipa. It is deceiving how well it paddles for its size. The volume is on all the right places. I just get real tail heavy and it just drives and pivots effortlessly. It works in tiny mushy waves but absolutely rockets through fun chest high waves. This board makes me look like I know how to surf. And I only surf a few times a month and primarily foil every day. Such a fun board. Also, when you see Kelly Slater surf a table, JOB surf a door, and Austin Keen surf a coffee table, you begin to worry less about the shape and rail and fin and such minute details and just make the best of any board. Just my $0.02.
Really digging this series Kale, as a long time Twin rider I'm appreciating the technical perspective on how these boards work - Gracias! Looks like your local is way better than 'Fair-Good' and def 'Epic' 💯 Quick question, what surf lid are you wearing for sun protection in the videos? Thx in advance.
It's difficult to be truthful and not offend. Josh is the whole package. In a conversation I had with that other twinfin guy the other day, there aren't a lot of expert surfers who are also board designers. You don't need a team if you can test your own product....
Hey legend! I saw you this morning when we were checking dolphins (ended up surfing there 30 mins later and it was super fun on the outer bank to the left for like an hour window when the tide was right) anyway after leaving I had a cool video series idea for you that you may be interested in. I’d classify myself as an intermediate surfer and thought it would be a cool series for your subscribers and potential clients to see the coaching process of you coaching an intermediate surfer to do tighter sharper turns and have better flow. I know I personally would be frothing on watching a series like that as it would be so relatable. I think it would work well as I live so close and actually work for myself and have flexibility to surf everyday at anytime that suits you. If you're interested let me know brother and we can catch up to talk more about it :)
Great series, I know you cant test every twin, but would have loved if you did the CI Fishbeard instead of twin pin. Very insightful reviews of the boards, good feedback always good.
Dude that Sharpeye Twin Turbo looked so good under your feet. Can’t wait for the rest of the series, in the market for a twin fin after filling out my quiver lol
I have an album twinsman and have always been interested in the lightbender. I find the twinsman an awesome board for in the pocket surfing. I don't find it the fastest but for me that works as helps me turn and stay in the pocket and not race out into the flats. I always thought the lightbender was a bit more of a traditional fish with projection / drive but the way it came across here it sounds like it is a performance / pivoty twin? what are the differences between the two?
Once in small waves, I broke the center fin off leaving me with a twin fin. Suddenly the surfboard was fast and alive! It didn't have enough drive for head high steep waves, but who cares! This was at el porto, which usually has small waves.
Your last board test whilst a good idea wasn't very fair.. you had different board shapes built for different conditions, different constructions, different fins? I can't remember.. all trying to compete to be the 'ultimate surfboard' for what?.. i can grab 6 different modles of cars and say this is the 'ultimate car' but for what? Speed? Power? Every day? For which track?.. Plus an elimination round in wave pool that, we all know os differnt to surfing in the ocean. I think some manufactures wouldn't of appreciated that. This test seems alot more fair though, a specific goal + you had a fair amount of time to test them all out in all kinds of conditions, like ones we would surf in! Keep it up Kale, sorry for the rant but just wanted to see what you think :)
from studying physics and a little bit of hydrodynamics, another key feature that is affecting your cut backs on wider boards, that like to channel rail speed, is the fins, if you are using keels, and produce to much drive, pop down to a carver family fin from the fcs. they tend to be alot smoother. I dont use twin fins, but i do use 2+1, with keels for the sides, and a performance fcs in the back. take my word for a grain of salt, because feel is different for everyone, plus i look at the friction, meniscus tension, and then use it in data collection. I guess it would be fun to design my own board. probably look very similar to a Tomo Vanguard, with a little bit more volume, and a hybrid fish tail. P.S. half of the time im a drunken nerd crying for attention lol.
It would be nice to see how this boards go on the backhand as well. Only rights and frontside surfing?! I'm a goody footer that leaves on the GC some back hand action would be appreciated 👌 Nice reviews though.
I thought your most stylish and best surfing was done on the fangs and the Christenson. You seemed to have more flow, and smoothness. Probably a result of having to think more about the sections and what turns you were doing. Interesting how your feel and enjoyment for a board can be different to the way your surfing is viewed. A lot of personal preference.
Hey Kale, loving the series mate!!! I am wanting to get a twinny for average surf (already have a high performance twinny). Do you provide a recommendation for average surf conditions in the grand final?
Dims question as these boards are generally wider & thicker. How much shorter is too much? I’m 6’3 87kg, my shorty is 6’4 36 Litres. Is 5’11 Lane splitter for example too much of a drop mainly for Stance purposes but also other reasons??
I’m 6’5” and 89kgs. I’ve got a 6’2” performance fish with 40 liters. I could definitely go shorter or less volume but I think us tall guys do better with longer rails and more foam. In my opinion going too short is aesthetically displeasing. Plus with our extra height we’ve got much more leverage and can put it on rail easier than a shorter person. And the extra length and volume gives more stability for our big body. That said, my next fish will be a bit more traditional and 6’0”. I had a 5’10” fish years ago that I really enjoyed but I had numerous people tell me it looked too short for me.
@@rzadigi some good insights, thanks. I was loving the look of the lane splitter but the largest size I could find was 5’11. I ended up getting one second hand near new in 5’11 and though I can feel the potential it is paper fine through the tail I feel the tail dragging through the water when paddling because of my larger frame. The last foot of so is pretty thin. That was something I’ve never experienced before so a good learning curve and will likely sell for similar to what I purchased it for so all good.
Great video again Kale....which is the most forgiving twinny for an intermediate surfer? Easy of wave catching & ease of doing cutties esp on forehand? 52yo "has been" looking for a fun skate machine in ordinary waves
I think ppl overvalue volume when the overall area and shape of the first half of the board is critical as well and paddling for the drop, where is the sweet spot ? i dunno
Fins make an insane difference. Just the template makes all the difference between pivoty and slidy to divey with hold. That's before you get on to cant, toe and position which are also huge.
Have tried to find an answer on the internet to no avail. I have bodyboarded and bodysurfed my entire life. I can wakeboard, wakeskate, snowboard and skateboard. I understand where to takeoff for bodyboarding and surfing, how to read waves, etc. My question is : would I follow the "normal" progression recommended for beginners who start to surf (seems to be larger / more volume boards) or am I able to buy a more "advanced" board straight up?
Some of those things will help for sure. The fact that you bodyboard means you know how a wave pushes you and basically where to be to take off. I don't wakeboard or wakeskate but have do know how to skate and snowboard. You'll find elements of each will help though neither are quite the same. I'm not the best surfer but it compares to riding transitions on a skateboard. Trimming turns are similar to trimming turns on a skate board. But carving turns are different I think. It's a problem I have to keep thinking about. On a skateboard you lift the nose and swing your body to turn. Surfing is more applying pressure like snowboarding. But then it's its own thing...lol. Anyway...to answer your question, you're probably pretty well balanced so I wouldn't waste time on longer boards if that's not what you want to do. You can jump right into a short board, but I would suggest a forgiving short board. High performance boards are pretty twitchy so if you start out with a daily driver or something closer to a groveller (small wave board) it will be easier without having to go to a longer board. Something like a Lost Puddle Jumper HP (it's only slightly more "high performance").
Rent one for a couple of sessions... good conditioning is key. A guy at my spot, 24 years old, 6'2 and around 75kg bought a brand new 5'10 rocket wide swallow and was surfing in 3 weeks... he snowboards, skates etc and has been around the water all his life... he now thinks his board has too much volume for him. I'm 41, started from scratch around 1 year and 4 months ago, once or twice a week. Pretty fit and swimming pool since 13. I started with a 6'0 hypto and stood up in the second day. After a month and a half I moved to a 5'7 subdriver swallow and I like this one much much better. Locals that surf a lot say that while not being very good, I do surf; so I think you'll be fine.
on the cost of surfboards, the problem is you spend 1500+ on a board that can snap the first day you get it. fragility is the problem, also every board is a gamble, the board can be dogshit and you're out $1500
All the hipster brands have been charging over $1,000 for poly for some time. Christenson surfboards for example. Now his mid lengths and Fish are $1,600 with some color!!! For poly? Probably a mediocre glass job not built to last. Hard to feel sorry for shapers that have been gouging people before materials cost went up. Maybe they will start making products that last since they’re charging so much.
Christensons boards made in California and shaped by Chris are glassed by Moonlight glassing. Arguably the best glassers in the world. I’ve got a friend who’s had dozens of them and they look new many years later. But the Christensons made in Australia, Europe and other locations aren’t shaped by Christenson or glassed the same. Of course the shapers and glassers are selected by him but the quality is not the same and I’ve read numerous reports online saying the same.
This is why I started building my own equipment in the 60's. A friend had bought a new board then dropped it while holding it out to show how light it was. The rail split open for two feet from the 3 foot drop on the sand. When I make a board It costs me only as much as the materials and it's solid. My target weight is higher and it lasts for 15 years or so. It's nice to have a board that long and getting it wired. Key to get the shape right but paying so much for a board is just disgusting. I won't even look at the boards in the shop anymore. buying a used board cheap with a good shape and copying it is the way to go. I make carbon foils now and kitesurf. Surfing seems like a kiddie sport anymore. HAHAHAHAHAHAH !!! SO CROWDED !
TBH there was a reason why thrusters (or tri fins) were invented, and why most surfers ride them. Watching twin fin surfing just doesn't quite look right. The hold and stability in the tail isn't there for the most part. Advanced surfers can adjust and harness twinnies, but the average joe is all over the place on them. Just my two cents worth! I have been riding for a long time, and much prefer a two plus one set up.
Yeah I think the point of twinnies is to slow down and flow WITH the wave rather than rip it to shreds, but a lot of shapers and some of the boards being tested here were designed more for high performance style surfing, with sharper, shorter outlines and volume distributed differently. It's basically an oxymoron, the "high performance twin". I guess its all preference in the end. I own a black baron, which would be considered a high performance twin, but I never try to over surf it, or even surf its limits. Speed + Natural flow makes it more fun than the rest of my boards in my quiver.
Why would you spend 1000+ on a mass produced board when you could get your local shaper to make a board specifically for your local conditions and your style of surfing. Support local
We’re talking about bias? I think that the main ‘bias’ (without much evidence) is the justification that boards should cost 1k+. I might change my mind later but hey, at least you’re an awesome sellout. 😅
Hi Kale, interesting thumbnail you’ve chosen. Seem like every UA-camr is just selling a chick half naked in the picture for extra views. Bit embarrassing mate
*Watches Kales Broccoli 🥦 * "Here's why everyone needs a twin fin fish" *Goes out to buy a fish surfboard* THE NEXT DAY "why your twin Finn board doesn't work" Me: WTF :0
Just ride a normal size thruster mate. This twin fin stuff is just a marketing faze. I'd like to see someone paddle from greenmount back to snapper on a 5'3 twinny 😆
It’s interesting that board manufacturers pushed back when you didn’t give glowing reviews. Casts a little doubt on other reviewers that never give bad reviews.
It should!
@@KalesBroccoli you mean the big board brands that bring out new models every year that are the result of finally cracking the secret sauce of paddle power and performance so we can catch everything from ankle high mush to 85ft Nazare barrels....that this might just be marketing?! That maybe, there's a chance, I might never surf even close to anything like JJF?! :)
That s how the world works, it s up to us to be honest and push for the truth and not support any that biaise the truth (ie naming the dishonest people)
The truth is usually uncomfortable
The incredibly rude reply from a board manufacturer on Kale’s last video really showed how some must have insecurity issues or something! Did you see it? They called him like a used car sales man or something. 🙄
I love that you incliude funny clips like the one at 12:32 of you getting dropped in on by a bear! haha Thanks for this Kale. Another great video. :)
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Kale, once again thanks you for taking the time to produce a great twin fin production and thanks to the board shapers for their collaboration. Looking forward for the next episode
This was great mate. All the footage in the water with you was mint. Appreciate the integrity towards testing the boards for us
Also how bloody fun at twins 😆
The Album Lightbender was definitely the board your surfing looked smoother on, with more flow, no hickups, just smooth transitions. Hope it gets to the final!
I love me a good twin.. As a "backyard shaper" I've put a fair amount of time into refining my performance twin. It's also worth mentioning too, the style of twin. A fish is totally different to a performance twin. If you're ever back in WA, come test ride mine.. :P
The interesting thing is, a wider tail with less toe-in on the fin boxes and running keels is amazing, but completely different from what is being tested in these reviews. It kind of feels like the twin fin setups in the tests is an 'in-between' board; not a thruster/quad, not a real fish. IMO, these things are more of a marketing ploy by the board manufacturers to further segment the surfboard market. Plug twin fins into your beefier (higher volume) thruster and leave the trailing fin out and compare that to the boards in your test. You might be quite surprised at how fun that board rides.
Thats what i do when it gets mushy. And also why im moving to fish shape.
Another great vid!
I think you’d get less shaper backlash if where there’s a board you aren’t too keen on you then gave it to a friend (of similar size/ability) to try out and get a second opinion. If they come back with the same feedback (e.g. super boggy rails) then you’re in the clear and if not, can just comment that it’s likely due to your own style/preferences 🤷♂️
Yeah! Time / resource issue
@@KalesBroccoli age old problem!! If you’re looking for testing time…. We have 3 opens spots on a ments boat in aug ✌️
If you can't express your opinion online, there is something wrong. Don't accept passive censorship. We have the right to express our opinion no matter if one like it or not as long as you don't try to intentionally harm someone.
i used to surf the pass when i was 12-15, 1982-85 . amazing times. same wave same vibe.. same board bro. one love
Loving this series Kale! Epic! Well done mate
thanks for the having the js in the next episode!!😆
I have to say I have the utmost respect for Chilli and Hayden. International brands are difficult to come by here in South Africa and while I haven't surfed a JS or DHD both my Chilli and HS worked exceptionally well from the very first wave. I couldn't gel with the CI and Pyzel's that I tried.
Regarding twinnies themselves, if they were available here I'd only trust and want to ride HS and please Lord, an Album!
Enjoy the easily available options you guys have, even though they're expensive, they're worth it.
Kale, your production has gone up a notch, it was already good but now it's fantastic. Keep it up man!
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Man the music in your videos is always so on point. Looking forward to the next episode :)
This series should be called "the best twin fin for your forehand"
🤣 you try and find lefts during a cyclone swell on the Goldy! Haha
love all this board talk and comparisons and characteristics affect how they hold a wave.
My 5,6 JS psycho nitro works just fine thanks 🌞 MR twin and trailer feel loose but can still get plenty of bite and drive through turns. Literally surf it in everything from ankle biters to overhead no worries
Just finished handshaping a 5’5 twin, this video is so informative
Yeah now Kale! Keep up the good work mate! I've been riding a twin for the last 4 years. Best part is it's from the early 80's. By far one of me favorite boards! Yew!
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I always get hand shaped custom boards in Southern California good informative video thanks 🙏
Loving the series Kale!
Keep doing what you’re doing & as said previously different surfing styles match with different board attributes.
I’ve been suuuuuper interested in the “secret” SharpEye twin since Noel reviewed it.
If I could add one observation- it looks like you’re surfing it off the back foot too much. Foot too far back & losing that drive on the top turns. Try keeping your back foot Forward a little & I bet it will light up even more!
Can’t wait for the next episode Buddy!!
As a new twinnie rider my ears perked up at that closing comment regarding backside twin fin surfing. After about 5 years off of surfing (kids and life) I thought my backside game fell off but ill have to stay tuned and see 👀
Haha, so funny you put in the clip of the big dude dropping in on you :)
Great work Kale. The sharpeye looked super electric! Super high performance.
Important to emphasise what style of surfing someone is looking for. Are we looking for a cruiser, ala the lane splitter, or a performance machine???
Looking forward to the rest of the series!
The light bender looked great. You were throwing buckets of spray off of that one 👍
My favorite board in my quiver is my 6'2" G&S Mark Richards modal purchased new in 1978
Thanks for this series!!!!
You definitely have a great van set up
Smooth surfing Kale
I think the Sharp Eye has looked the best under your feet so far, but I saw the clip on IG of the CO Twin Pin and you looked pretty aggressive on that board as well. Thanks for the honest feedback 🙏🏼
12:33 party wave for all!
Just sharing my experience with a Flat Earth from Akila Aipa. It is deceiving how well it paddles for its size. The volume is on all the right places. I just get real tail heavy and it just drives and pivots effortlessly. It works in tiny mushy waves but absolutely rockets through fun chest high waves.
This board makes me look like I know how to surf. And I only surf a few times a month and primarily foil every day. Such a fun board.
Also, when you see Kelly Slater surf a table, JOB surf a door, and Austin Keen surf a coffee table, you begin to worry less about the shape and rail and fin and such minute details and just make the best of any board. Just my $0.02.
Tested in the previous series 🤙🏽
Really digging this series Kale, as a long time Twin rider I'm appreciating the technical perspective on how these boards work - Gracias! Looks like your local is way better than 'Fair-Good' and def 'Epic' 💯 Quick question, what surf lid are you wearing for sun protection in the videos? Thx in advance.
It's difficult to be truthful and not offend.
Josh is the whole package. In a conversation I had with that other twinfin guy the other day, there aren't a lot of expert surfers who are also board designers. You don't need a team if you can test your own product....
Light bender looked the goods
You should try and do a review on the FIREWIRE SEASIDE. quickest and most fun I have had on a board. You should try it as a twinny too
Hates wind and chop though
Hey legend! I saw you this morning when we were checking dolphins (ended up surfing there 30 mins later and it was super fun on the outer bank to the left for like an hour window when the tide was right) anyway after leaving I had a cool video series idea for you that you may be interested in. I’d classify myself as an intermediate surfer and thought it would be a cool series for your subscribers and potential clients to see the coaching process of you coaching an intermediate surfer to do tighter sharper turns and have better flow. I know I personally would be frothing on watching a series like that as it would be so relatable. I think it would work well as I live so close and actually work for myself and have flexibility to surf everyday at anytime that suits you. If you're interested let me know brother and we can catch up to talk more about it :)
Great series, I know you cant test every twin, but would have loved if you did the CI Fishbeard instead of twin pin. Very insightful reviews of the boards, good feedback always good.
Fish beard is no longer in production 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Sick series!
Bend That LightBender!!! Nice.
Dude that Sharpeye Twin Turbo looked so good under your feet. Can’t wait for the rest of the series, in the market for a twin fin after filling out my quiver lol
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Agreed.
Really? There was something special but it looked pretty slow compared to the Album and Acsod
Wish Pyzel sent you a twiny. Good series man, can’t wait for the rest!
I have an album twinsman and have always been interested in the lightbender. I find the twinsman an awesome board for in the pocket surfing. I don't find it the fastest but for me that works as helps me turn and stay in the pocket and not race out into the flats. I always thought the lightbender was a bit more of a traditional fish with projection / drive but the way it came across here it sounds like it is a performance / pivoty twin? what are the differences between the two?
Add the twinsman back in the mix kale
Bonus episode: Twinsman Vs The Winner
But why it wasn’t on the mix ?
And only against winner ?
I have 3 twinsman ;)
The fourth video is not available (any more?) :( can you put it back up Kale?
Once in small waves, I broke the center fin off leaving me with a twin fin. Suddenly the surfboard was fast and alive! It didn't have enough drive for head high steep waves, but who cares! This was at el porto, which usually has small waves.
Your last board test whilst a good idea wasn't very fair.. you had different board shapes built for different conditions, different constructions, different fins? I can't remember.. all trying to compete to be the 'ultimate surfboard' for what?.. i can grab 6 different modles of cars and say this is the 'ultimate car' but for what? Speed? Power? Every day? For which track?.. Plus an elimination round in wave pool that, we all know os differnt to surfing in the ocean. I think some manufactures wouldn't of appreciated that. This test seems alot more fair though, a specific goal + you had a fair amount of time to test them all out in all kinds of conditions, like ones we would surf in! Keep it up Kale, sorry for the rant but just wanted to see what you think :)
from studying physics and a little bit of hydrodynamics, another key feature that is affecting your cut backs on wider boards, that like to channel rail speed, is the fins, if you are using keels, and produce to much drive, pop down to a carver family fin from the fcs. they tend to be alot smoother. I dont use twin fins, but i do use 2+1, with keels for the sides, and a performance fcs in the back. take my word for a grain of salt, because feel is different for everyone, plus i look at the friction, meniscus tension, and then use it in data collection. I guess it would be fun to design my own board. probably look very similar to a Tomo Vanguard, with a little bit more volume, and a hybrid fish tail. P.S. half of the time im a drunken nerd crying for attention lol.
My guess is the T&C is FOR Hawaiin waves
How about reviewing Lost Cobra Killer?
Interesting with your thoughts between the Album and the Acsod I personally feel you looked much more fluid and flowing on the Acsod?? Just my opinion
It would be nice to see how this boards go on the backhand as well. Only rights and frontside surfing?! I'm a goody footer that leaves on the GC some back hand action would be appreciated 👌 Nice reviews though.
That Sharpeye = 🌶!!! 😍👌🏼
I thought your most stylish and best surfing was done on the fangs and the Christenson. You seemed to have more flow, and smoothness. Probably a result of having to think more about the sections and what turns you were doing. Interesting how your feel and enjoyment for a board can be different to the way your surfing is viewed. A lot of personal preference.
Absolutely
Hey Kale, loving the series mate!!! I am wanting to get a twinny for average surf (already have a high performance twinny). Do you provide a recommendation for average surf conditions in the grand final?
Dims question as these boards are generally wider & thicker.
How much shorter is too much? I’m 6’3 87kg, my shorty is 6’4 36 Litres.
Is 5’11 Lane splitter for example too much of a drop mainly for Stance purposes but also other reasons??
I’m 6’5” and 89kgs. I’ve got a 6’2” performance fish with 40 liters. I could definitely go shorter or less volume but I think us tall guys do better with longer rails and more foam. In my opinion going too short is aesthetically displeasing. Plus with our extra height we’ve got much more leverage and can put it on rail easier than a shorter person. And the extra length and volume gives more stability for our big body. That said, my next fish will be a bit more traditional and 6’0”. I had a 5’10” fish years ago that I really enjoyed but I had numerous people tell me it looked too short for me.
@@rzadigi some good insights, thanks.
I was loving the look of the lane splitter but the largest size I could find was 5’11.
I ended up getting one second hand near new in 5’11 and though I can feel the potential it is paper fine through the tail I feel the tail dragging through the water when paddling because of my larger frame. The last foot of so is pretty thin. That was something I’ve never experienced before so a good learning curve and will likely sell for similar to what I purchased it for so all good.
Who is the winner in twin fin series?
Who was the big dude in the red board shorts that dropped in on you? 😬
Great video again Kale....which is the most forgiving twinny for an intermediate surfer? Easy of wave catching & ease of doing cutties esp on forehand? 52yo "has been" looking for a fun skate machine in ordinary waves
Stay tuned for episode four etc etc 🙏🏽
Nice video, just came across it. Song name at 8:00 secs, anyone? Thanks a lot in advance, blessings!
Wanting to get a twin fin but being a grom and only buying 1 board a year makes it hard lol🤙🏽
Twins: Better than they were, but still making solid surfers look slightly off balance and somewhat walking on eggs.
A twinnie is not a thruster, why design it to surf like one? Maybe we can get a finless board to surf like one that has fins.
Beautiful… Honest… Hurts just right… I do have to ask you if you were holding a single-use plastic bottle drink🙃
How do you think the album twinsman fits in against this new batch of twinnies after your glowing review of it last year?
It’ll be tested
I think ppl overvalue volume when the overall area and shape of the first half of the board is critical as well and paddling for the drop, where is the sweet spot ? i dunno
what about fins and how they impact everything ?
Fins make an insane difference. Just the template makes all the difference between pivoty and slidy to divey with hold. That's before you get on to cant, toe and position which are also huge.
Touched on in first episode
MR , Apia, Twins Fis, GLarson Fish
Have tried to find an answer on the internet to no avail. I have bodyboarded and bodysurfed my entire life. I can wakeboard, wakeskate, snowboard and skateboard. I understand where to takeoff for bodyboarding and surfing, how to read waves, etc. My question is : would I follow the "normal" progression recommended for beginners who start to surf (seems to be larger / more volume boards) or am I able to buy a more "advanced" board straight up?
Some of those things will help for sure. The fact that you bodyboard means you know how a wave pushes you and basically where to be to take off. I don't wakeboard or wakeskate but have do know how to skate and snowboard. You'll find elements of each will help though neither are quite the same. I'm not the best surfer but it compares to riding transitions on a skateboard. Trimming turns are similar to trimming turns on a skate board. But carving turns are different I think. It's a problem I have to keep thinking about. On a skateboard you lift the nose and swing your body to turn. Surfing is more applying pressure like snowboarding. But then it's its own thing...lol.
Anyway...to answer your question, you're probably pretty well balanced so I wouldn't waste time on longer boards if that's not what you want to do. You can jump right into a short board, but I would suggest a forgiving short board. High performance boards are pretty twitchy so if you start out with a daily driver or something closer to a groveller (small wave board) it will be easier without having to go to a longer board. Something like a Lost Puddle Jumper HP (it's only slightly more "high performance").
@@doublestrokeroll much appreciated and what I was hoping to hear
@@joel6376 no worries! Have fun with it!
Progression will be faster I imagine
Rent one for a couple of sessions... good conditioning is key. A guy at my spot, 24 years old, 6'2 and around 75kg bought a brand new 5'10 rocket wide swallow and was surfing in 3 weeks... he snowboards, skates etc and has been around the water all his life... he now thinks his board has too much volume for him. I'm 41, started from scratch around 1 year and 4 months ago, once or twice a week. Pretty fit and swimming pool since 13. I started with a 6'0 hypto and stood up in the second day. After a month and a half I moved to a 5'7 subdriver swallow and I like this one much much better. Locals that surf a lot say that while not being very good, I do surf; so I think you'll be fine.
on the cost of surfboards, the problem is you spend 1500+ on a board that can snap the first day you get it. fragility is the problem, also every board is a gamble, the board can be dogshit and you're out $1500
I don't mind spending a 1000 bucks, it's the fact they only last a few months that gets me
Yo when you transition from Boyz II Men that comb-over thing...Sad but true. You’ll thank me when you decide to shave your heads
Try a Parks Surfboards one of the world's best. . a true Craftsman not cnc .that not shaping that's a scrubber.
Question for the comment section. Big bloke at 12:32 snakes you, what you doing next?
Letting it go 🙏🏽
It’s not often that you see a surfing gorilla
All the hipster brands have been charging over $1,000 for poly for some time. Christenson surfboards for example. Now his mid lengths and Fish are $1,600 with some color!!! For poly? Probably a mediocre glass job not built to last. Hard to feel sorry for shapers that have been gouging people before materials cost went up. Maybe they will start making products that last since they’re charging so much.
Christensons boards made in California and shaped by Chris are glassed by Moonlight glassing. Arguably the best glassers in the world. I’ve got a friend who’s had dozens of them and they look new many years later.
But the Christensons made in Australia, Europe and other locations aren’t shaped by Christenson or glassed the same. Of course the shapers and glassers are selected by him but the quality is not the same and I’ve read numerous reports online saying the same.
Why do you have mesh on your van
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00:13 The dog is totally unimpressed. He has his own tail, and his works best.
This is why I started building my own equipment in the 60's. A friend had bought a new board then dropped it while holding it out to show how light it was. The rail split open for two feet from the 3 foot drop on the sand. When I make a board It costs me only as much as the materials and it's solid. My target weight is higher and it lasts for 15 years or so. It's nice to have a board that long and getting it wired. Key to get the shape right but paying so much for a board is just disgusting. I won't even look at the boards in the shop anymore. buying a used board cheap with a good shape and copying it is the way to go. I make carbon foils now and kitesurf. Surfing seems like a kiddie sport anymore. HAHAHAHAHAHAH !!! SO CROWDED !
Nice video series. Are you going to test the Firewire Flat Earth?
Previous series
TBH there was a reason why thrusters (or tri fins) were invented, and why most surfers ride them. Watching twin fin surfing just doesn't quite look right. The hold and stability in the tail isn't there for the most part. Advanced surfers can adjust and harness twinnies, but the average joe is all over the place on them. Just my two cents worth!
I have been riding for a long time, and much prefer a two plus one set up.
Yeah I think the point of twinnies is to slow down and flow WITH the wave rather than rip it to shreds, but a lot of shapers and some of the boards being tested here were designed more for high performance style surfing, with sharper, shorter outlines and volume distributed differently. It's basically an oxymoron, the "high performance twin". I guess its all preference in the end. I own a black baron, which would be considered a high performance twin, but I never try to over surf it, or even surf its limits. Speed + Natural flow makes it more fun than the rest of my boards in my quiver.
@@zach1978 I think you hit the nail on the head with 'natural flow'.
Why would you spend 1000+ on a mass produced board when you could get your local shaper to make a board specifically for your local conditions and your style of surfing. Support local
Kale what is your height/weight? In American 🤣
Pepsi Coke... Mountain Dew
Rather hear people theorize more in the shop
If only everyone could test a bunch of boards before spending a thousand pingers on one, only to find it doesn’t suit you.
The surfers in this vídeo surf with a twin fin board like if they are surfing with a thruster.
This is not the objetive to surf with a twinfin.
No it's about the brand of surfboard,it's You and your level no more.if You wanna surf better,You have to surf more .it's the only way.
Dave Verall - ASTRAL TRACER
Don’t buy christenson boards from bali.
Are they shaped in Bali or Aus? His boards are now licensed and shaped all over the world. The California boards are the highest quality.
$1,000 you're tripping
kook
We’re talking about bias? I think that the main ‘bias’ (without much evidence) is the justification that boards should cost 1k+. I might change my mind later but hey, at least you’re an awesome sellout. 😅
I hope you have a great day 🙏🏽
Hi Kale, interesting thumbnail you’ve chosen. Seem like every UA-camr is just selling a chick half naked in the picture for extra views.
Bit embarrassing mate
Half naked? Sorry you’re embarrassed
*Watches Kales Broccoli 🥦 *
"Here's why everyone needs a twin fin fish"
*Goes out to buy a fish surfboard*
THE NEXT DAY "why your twin Finn board doesn't work"
Me: WTF :0
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Just ride a normal size thruster mate. This twin fin stuff is just a marketing faze. I'd like to see someone paddle from greenmount back to snapper on a 5'3 twinny 😆