It is so lovely that while you sailed on such rough weather you hung the towels to dry outside. I´m sure they were pretty dry when you had a shower LOL
A boat builder tells me that a number of multis are turning up here in New Zealand with delaminating under decks and movement in the attachment points. I'll stick with my elderly timber monohull but its lots of fun going like the clappers in a multi.
We got caught out between cherbourg and Brighton in a f9 wind over tide. The way those waves built up so steep and short, like a two story house as we viewed them from the trough. We got knocked right over on our stbd beams right over. 90 degrees and we were looking down into the green depths through the pilot house window. It was night then. We basically spent 18hours getting slapped on our ears, one to the other. Moral: if it says Plus de Vent in cherbourg just wait it out. "I need to be back for work" just isn't worth the risk. I quite liked it. But it was stupid. Brighton looked like the maw of hell so we were directed to Newhaven. Good call.
I've been in similar conditions - twice - off the west coast of the U.S. 40 - 50 knt winds, waves about 4 - 5 meters. You are correct, the video does not do it justice! (begin edit) Also - it's rather nerve-wracking when you're hove-to in those kinds of conditions, during a pitch-black night! (end edit) Thanks for sharing! Stay safe!
I’ve never been sailing on the ocean, only on one of the finger lakes… I’d love to think I’d be nothing but excited if I was on that boat with you but I think without experiencing it firsthand it’s impossible to understand. Y’all are absolute studs out there, so calm and confident. New Sub, can’t wait to catch up on your videos
God bless ya there really wasn't much more you could do besides stick to a game plan and don't let your guard rest it's Inspiring to see you out there in such conditions.
YES. YES! this is what I've been looking for! I'm looking at so many boats for when we (early) retire, and I want to know we can cross oceans, those are the conditions I'm wanting to know a boat can handle! now I must look at NEIL boats and see if they are something we will get... thank you for the awesome documentary.
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At that point I would say it depends on the operator and the choice of course, sails, etc. Both give you the speed to position yourself in relation to the system in such way as to end up on broad reach or quartering tailwind. It is the best, stable, safe, and reasonably comfortable point of sail even in 50+ knots winds as we have experienced few times. If you were to try to sail into such winds it would be a death wish with such boat. Having said all that I like the added stability/beam of the tri vs. cat. Thanks for a good question. Cheers. B
@@sailoceans Thank you so much for your reply. I’m working for few years now on Tristan da Cunha island. We have some sailboats passing by. The sea can be incredibly rough. Often the boats are coming from South America on their way to Cape Town.
@@sailoceans thank you very much for your answer. I have been working on Tristan da Cunha island for the past 7 years. Often rough seas. I saw few sailboats coming back from South America heading towards Cape Town. But very few Trimarans.
The Neal is an odd one. More like a three hull catamaran, in that all three hulls are in the water most of the time. Most tris fly the windward hull. A lot of recent large cats have a relatively narrow overall beam (easier for docking), which makes then less stable than a tri with a larger beam. Overall beam is perhaps the critical factor. Apparently a rough rule is that it takes a wave of three times the beam to turn over a boat lying a hull.
Very exciting, your strong wind trip. You have pulled in the fishing rod, but the towels are not dry ,-) I have a question: With which software did you simulate the wind forecast and your ship position? Thank you.
Well, there's only one Neel 50 apparently, and you're looking at it So, no one outside this channel ever reviewed this boat. The Neel 51, which is the production model unlike this prototype, is what most people are familiar with. It's a completely different yacht. About the only thing they have in common is they're both made by Neel and are trimarans. That said, you can expect similar handling and performance from all the Neel line of yachts. I'm eagerly awaiting a review of the new Neel 52..
@@pecopeco5907 It's much better now than when this prototype was constructed. I expect it to improve further when the new 52 is completed. We'll soon see.
I have been in conditions like this twice. Once off the Columbia coast on the way to Panama (40kts for two days straight) and once on the way to New Zealand (40 kts gusting 50kts for a day or so). Enjoyable memories after the fact :) ….. Agree that photos or videos don’t do it justice. I have done it in a 30 foot heavy steel boat. It would be interesting to experience it on a multihull. I felt quite safe because my boat was built like a tank but I could not outsail anything. If you can sail away with 18 kts from a gale then 40 kts only feels like 22kts…..
Cool video. The old rule; wind doesn't brake boats, waves do. A lot of sailors underestimate the wave conditions after a big low, and think they have an easy ride on the tail end. Sometimes it is better to just park and wait it out, and get ahead at the next system. That requires not being on a shedule.
HalleluYAH YAH Most High was with you through the storms and even blessed you with a beautiful rainbow, his sign to all mankind that he'd never again flood the earth as he did in ancient days.
High teens. I think we hit 20 once or twice, but we were generally very conservative. Breaking something this far out on the ocean can be a real problem. Cheers mate. Bartek
20 is much to high for this kind of boat . I’ll be very careful and slow down, but you guys are so young so is understandable to fly ( Mr. Captain). After refitting is ok, but before is scary ( to me ).👍
@@jacekcentkowski979 how would you consider much too high for this boat and for these conditions (that includes wave height, period, direction, wind, crew condition and expertise, boat condition)?
On average for about 2 days, and for few hours 40 gusting to just under 50. Pretty much about 5 knots above forecast, so all in all no surprise. Cheers mate. Bartek
hate to be that armchair captain on UA-cam but seriously... No Jack Lines? C'mon.... Your friend had a harness and tether that he was just holding in his hand to go forward to secure that locker. I don't make crossings without having jacklines in place BEFORE things get dicey.
We don't always avoid heavy wind. If we can position ourselves on the "right" side of the upcoming low we often go for it rather than wait until it passes. It is surprisingly comfortable and stable ride in rather serious conditions sometimes, when you keep the wind between beam reach and downwind. Cheers mate. B
E outra nao precisa ficar com medo do Lula e nem do Putin , porque voces gostam é de dinheiro , e dinheiro voces vao ter. Entao prepara , porque vai beijar os pés do Lula , é isso que vai acontecer . Voces vão beijar o pé do Lula , olha que loucura , presta atenção . Isso vai acontecer de verdade . Pra vcs verem que a única coisa que eles querem é dinheiro , então nós vamos resolver o problema de voces. Eu to com a parte mais dificil que é trazer o dinheiro , entao deixa o pai trabalhar que em pouco tempo a firma é nossa
Te same bodźce potrafią nastrajać jednych negatywnie, a innych pozytywnie, a to dlatego, że odbieramy wszystko przez pryzmat własnych doświadczeń i programów. A my bierzemy odpowiedzialność tylko za swoje programy. Idąc jednak na przeciw gustom, jeśli mamy kilkaset próśb o więcej tej piosenki oraz zapytań o jej tytuł i wykonawcę, bo się podoba to jedna opinia przeciw nie spowoduje zmiany. Serdeczności. B
50 knot winds and corresponding waves amount to less than 1% of statistical conditions in this general area/season. We are delighted to meet you as it is very hard to encounter tougher conditions not to mention sail into them consciously and controlably. Needless to say, I am super curious about your experiences that put 50 knots into category of "nothing" for you. Please do share. Cheers. B
E outra nao precisa ficar com medo do Lula e nem do Putin , porque voces gostam é de dinheiro , e dinheiro voces vao ter. Entao prepara , porque vai beijar os pés do Lula , é isso que vai acontecer . Voces vão beijar o pé do Lula , olha que loucura , presta atenção . Isso vai acontecer de verdade . Pra vcs verem que a única coisa que eles querem é dinheiro , então nós vamos resolver o problema de voces. Eu to com a parte mais dificil que é trazer o dinheiro , entao deixa o pai trabalhar que em pouco tempo a firma é nossa
E outra nao precisa ficar com medo do Lula e nem do Putin , porque voces gostam é de dinheiro , e dinheiro voces vao ter. Entao prepara , porque vai beijar os pés do Lula , é isso que vai acontecer . Voces vão beijar o pé do Lula , olha que loucura , presta atenção . Isso vai acontecer de verdade . Pra vcs verem que a única coisa que eles querem é dinheiro , então nós vamos resolver o problema de voces. Eu to com a parte mais dificil que é trazer o dinheiro , entao deixa o pai trabalhar que em pouco tempo a firma é nossa
Special episode! Enjoy rough sailing today!
Interesting to see a multi hull in challenging conditions on UA-cam. Thanks for posting.
Looks like your tri handled those big conditions beautifully. Always amazing to see seas of that size. Glad you made it across safely.
Boy that thing is flying.
It is so lovely that while you sailed on such rough weather you hung the towels to dry outside. I´m sure they were pretty dry when you had a shower LOL
I thought that was their washing machine…
You know that those lanyards only work if you clip them to the boat, right? 🤣 Good to see how a trimaran handles some breeze. Thanks.
Great ad for the Neal 50. Been bea up on plenty of decks at 30 knots. Cool to see you making breakfast at 40 knots
Nice to see the real side of sailin a tri.
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Thanks
Thank you :)
Kia Ora, wow ...... what a ride o the waves ... Thanks sooo much for this nice video and good luck ...cheers Siegmar
A boat builder tells me that a number of multis are turning up here in New Zealand with delaminating under decks and movement in the attachment points. I'll stick with my elderly timber monohull but its lots of fun going like the clappers in a multi.
cool guys - a trimaran shows again high performance and safety in strong winds anyway
ya those monohull boyz will be so jealous
Woww what a Ride👏
Crazy glasses guy looks like he ate the canary.
I love it.
That was gnarly!
We got caught out between cherbourg and Brighton in a f9 wind over tide. The way those waves built up so steep and short, like a two story house as we viewed them from the trough. We got knocked right over on our stbd beams right over. 90 degrees and we were looking down into the green depths through the pilot house window. It was night then.
We basically spent 18hours getting slapped on our ears, one to the other. Moral: if it says Plus de Vent in cherbourg just wait it out. "I need to be back for work" just isn't worth the risk.
I quite liked it. But it was stupid. Brighton looked like the maw of hell so we were directed to Newhaven. Good call.
I've been in similar conditions - twice - off the west coast of the U.S.
40 - 50 knt winds, waves about 4 - 5 meters.
You are correct, the video does not do it justice!
(begin edit) Also - it's rather nerve-wracking when you're hove-to in those kinds of conditions, during a pitch-black night! (end edit)
Thanks for sharing! Stay safe!
Fale wyższe niz łódka a Pan kapitan ma aż iskierki z radosci w oczach :-)
You get a realistic idea looking through the aft windows of those waves.
Glorious
You have some very good clothes pins to hold during that wind! Although I’d suspect the laundry didn’t get very dry LOL
Hahahaha, didn't even notice until you pointed it out :). Thx. B
She handled the storm with aplomb. Great video!
Aloha! Looks calm and flat ;-) Sailed the Solent winter races. Was really really cold. Tris are so much more stable and faster.
We agree!
That reef 😮
I’ve never been sailing on the ocean, only on one of the finger lakes… I’d love to think I’d be nothing but excited if I was on that boat with you but I think without experiencing it firsthand it’s impossible to understand. Y’all are absolute studs out there, so calm and confident. New Sub, can’t wait to catch up on your videos
Look up lake superior, lake Michigan. There are more ships that sank in storms there than anywhere else in the world.
God bless ya there really wasn't much more you could do besides stick to a game plan and don't let your guard rest it's Inspiring to see you out there in such conditions.
A good demonstration on why you sent the wife and children ahead on an airplane. Not a sail to be taken lightly.
Hope to see you out there.
Great video. I look forward to more❤️
YES. YES! this is what I've been looking for! I'm looking at so many boats for when we (early) retire, and I want to know we can cross oceans, those are the conditions I'm wanting to know a boat can handle! now I must look at NEIL boats and see if they are something we will get... thank you for the awesome documentary.
We advise buyer's on the selection and help with the purchase. When the time is near please contact us before you pull the trigger. You can read more on www.lovingyachts.com
Cheers.
Gram hull great for hurricane force winds. Just make sure she's sea worthy
Nicely done. 😊 Enjoyed watching this video. 😊
Interesting rough sailing!! subscribed!
Welcome aboard!
So dobze,clip best wishes:)
Has your tri been reliable?
Yes, heavy weather handling has been amazing. Was that the question? If not please be more specific?
What's the point of having a tether if you are just going to hold it in your hand?
You won't lose your hand 😉
Speed is your friend... :)
Please excuse my question I am new here but, why does your crew member carry his tether? What good does that do?
W0W!
Is that wind chimes inside the cabin? That would twist my mind endlessly hearing that
I’d be curious to know what kind of speeds you guys were getting throughout the video.
Low to high teens momentarily. Cheers mate. Bartek
Recording waves never does them justice. They always look much smaller than they are.
Hello..! New sub here. From thailander..
In such rough sea is a Trimaran safer than a catamaran?
At that point I would say it depends on the operator and the choice of course, sails, etc. Both give you the speed to position yourself in relation to the system in such way as to end up on broad reach or quartering tailwind. It is the best, stable, safe, and reasonably comfortable point of sail even in 50+ knots winds as we have experienced few times. If you were to try to sail into such winds it would be a death wish with such boat. Having said all that I like the added stability/beam of the tri vs. cat.
Thanks for a good question.
Cheers. B
@@sailoceans Thank you so much for your reply. I’m working for few years now on Tristan da Cunha island. We have some sailboats passing by. The sea can be incredibly rough. Often the boats are coming from South America on their way to Cape Town.
@@sailoceans thank you very much for your answer. I have been working on Tristan da Cunha island for the past 7 years. Often rough seas. I saw few sailboats coming back from South America heading towards Cape Town. But very few Trimarans.
The Neal is an odd one. More like a three hull catamaran, in that all three hulls are in the water most of the time. Most tris fly the windward hull.
A lot of recent large cats have a relatively narrow overall beam (easier for docking), which makes then less stable than a tri with a larger beam. Overall beam is perhaps the critical factor. Apparently a rough rule is that it takes a wave of three times the beam to turn over a boat lying a hull.
Very exciting, your strong wind trip. You have pulled in the fishing rod, but the towels are not dry ,-) I have a question: With which software did you simulate the wind forecast and your ship position? Thank you.
Predictwind. Cheers. B
What type of trimaran is that ?
why no head south on beam reach
until the storm passes?
if I understood the wind screen…
That would land us directly in the eye of the low.
Such an under rated boat. That NEEL 50 is the best of performance and comfort. What was best speed ?. Thanks.
Well, there's only one Neel 50 apparently, and you're looking at it So, no one outside this channel ever reviewed this boat. The Neel 51, which is the production model unlike this prototype, is what most people are familiar with. It's a completely different yacht. About the only thing they have in common is they're both made by Neel and are trimarans. That said, you can expect similar handling and performance from all the Neel line of yachts. I'm eagerly awaiting a review of the new Neel 52..
until the build quality improves, it is not underrated.
@@pecopeco5907 It's much better now than when this prototype was constructed. I expect it to improve further when the new 52 is completed. We'll soon see.
6:39 "everything is normal", proceeds to fry spaghetti in a pan
6:11
U don't wanna go through heavy weather malnutritioned :D
I have been in conditions like this twice. Once off the Columbia coast on the way to Panama (40kts for two days straight) and once on the way to New Zealand (40 kts gusting 50kts for a day or so). Enjoyable memories after the fact :) ….. Agree that photos or videos don’t do it justice. I have done it in a 30 foot heavy steel boat. It would be interesting to experience it on a multihull. I felt quite safe because my boat was built like a tank but I could not outsail anything. If you can sail away with 18 kts from a gale then 40 kts only feels like 22kts…..
Exactly. That's why I make it a point to position on the downwind side of the low each time. Cheers mate. Bartek
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Cool video. The old rule; wind doesn't brake boats, waves do. A lot of sailors underestimate the wave conditions after a big low, and think they have an easy ride on the tail end. Sometimes it is better to just park and wait it out, and get ahead at the next system. That requires not being on a shedule.
And having an option to park nearby ;).
Its called "heave to" if conditions allow. I don't mean a marina or bay to anchor.
I am a firm believer in Grib files
HalleluYAH YAH Most High was with you through the storms and even blessed you with a beautiful rainbow, his sign to all mankind that he'd never again flood the earth as he did in ancient days.
Whats speeds were you doing there on the 09:00 minute mark of this video?
High teens. I think we hit 20 once or twice, but we were generally very conservative. Breaking something this far out on the ocean can be a real problem. Cheers mate. Bartek
20 is much to high for this kind of boat . I’ll be very careful and slow down, but you guys are so young so is understandable to fly ( Mr. Captain). After refitting is ok, but before is scary ( to me ).👍
@@jacekcentkowski979 how would you consider much too high for this boat and for these conditions (that includes wave height, period, direction, wind, crew condition and expertise, boat condition)?
I don't think the bath mats are going to dry
What is your speed?
It varies greatly. But usually it's no less than 7 and no more than 15 on average.
I would love to see a few other Trimarans in the same kind of weather - thanks for showing
Most welcome
But what happened to the fish! Did he get it?!
The black colour on predict wind means DEATH. Would be good to see some performance data for the tri, max speed, averages etc.
in 50 knts of wind you aren't trying to break speed records, you are trying to go as slow as you can.
@@krionic Not if you are racing.
I want to see the fish!
I do too :D
Were is your lifejacket???
It's next to the helmsman seat.
Please wave the camera around more when filming the tiny iPad. I can almost see what you are trying to show me. Thanks.
I'd like to see you getting a still shot in this conditions ;)
Fainie że to są inne treści niż na polskim kanale
50 knot winds happen. I am surprised that you get all excited about cashing in on them.
What app is that at the beginning?
Predictwind ☺️
"Here's me fishing in a hurricane..."
Im prety sure your slip in a marina (one month) is more expensive than my whole boat...
Nice video though.
👍😉
How you get internet
Starlink
Deed you have 30 /40 nots on deck?
On average for about 2 days, and for few hours 40 gusting to just under 50. Pretty much about 5 knots above forecast, so all in all no surprise. Cheers mate. Bartek
@@sailoceans So at the TOP of the mast it must have been??? Becuase your windgase is also at the topp of the mast..rigjht?
Did I miss it? It would be nice if they would give the boat speed and wind speed every once in a while. Other wise story not really mean much.
VERY GOOD . even us Cool aide drinking American SUBSRIBERS loved you .
50? Are you kiddin me? Never ever...
That reef @ 7:33….
I use reefs as outhaul as well. Cheers mate. Bartek
hate to be that armchair captain on UA-cam but seriously... No Jack Lines? C'mon.... Your friend had a harness and tether that he was just holding in his hand to go forward to secure that locker. I don't make crossings without having jacklines in place BEFORE things get dicey.
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Stay out of heavy wind if you can.
We don't always avoid heavy wind. If we can position ourselves on the "right" side of the upcoming low we often go for it rather than wait until it passes. It is surprisingly comfortable and stable ride in rather serious conditions sometimes, when you keep the wind between beam reach and downwind. Cheers mate. B
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Maybe just a little jibe…
Hahahaha, that would be a bit suicidal, not only the maneuver itself, but then the heading straight for the center of the low. Cheers. B
E outra nao precisa ficar com medo do Lula e nem do Putin , porque voces gostam é de dinheiro , e dinheiro voces vao ter. Entao prepara , porque vai beijar os pés do Lula , é isso que vai acontecer . Voces vão beijar o pé do Lula , olha que loucura , presta atenção . Isso vai acontecer de verdade . Pra vcs verem que a única coisa que eles querem é dinheiro , então nós vamos resolver o problema de voces. Eu to com a parte mais dificil que é trazer o dinheiro , entao deixa o pai trabalhar que em pouco tempo a firma é nossa
The color indicates 30 knot , get real
We have a windmeter with digits not colors 😉
Pas terrible ton riz sur la grande voile !
Z x😂
Sorry, your audio balance is fu*ked. Can't take it.
Don't :D
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Okropna jest ta piosenka na końcu waszych filmów jest posępna i nastrajająca negatywnie
Te same bodźce potrafią nastrajać jednych negatywnie, a innych pozytywnie, a to dlatego, że odbieramy wszystko przez pryzmat własnych doświadczeń i programów. A my bierzemy odpowiedzialność tylko za swoje programy. Idąc jednak na przeciw gustom, jeśli mamy kilkaset próśb o więcej tej piosenki oraz zapytań o jej tytuł i wykonawcę, bo się podoba to jedna opinia przeciw nie spowoduje zmiany. Serdeczności. B
@@sailoceans 2 osoby mnie już wsparły ;D
@@1Jasion Dostajesz jakieś powiadomienia? To działa chyba na tej zasadzie, że jak ktoś Ci da lajka, a ktoś inny dyslajka to się licznik zeruje.
Much ado about nothing. This is ridiculously over-dramatized, but good for fooling people who have never been to sea.
50 knot winds and corresponding waves amount to less than 1% of statistical conditions in this general area/season. We are delighted to meet you as it is very hard to encounter tougher conditions not to mention sail into them consciously and controlably. Needless to say, I am super curious about your experiences that put 50 knots into category of "nothing" for you. Please do share. Cheers. B
E outra nao precisa ficar com medo do Lula e nem do Putin , porque voces gostam é de dinheiro , e dinheiro voces vao ter. Entao prepara , porque vai beijar os pés do Lula , é isso que vai acontecer . Voces vão beijar o pé do Lula , olha que loucura , presta atenção . Isso vai acontecer de verdade . Pra vcs verem que a única coisa que eles querem é dinheiro , então nós vamos resolver o problema de voces. Eu to com a parte mais dificil que é trazer o dinheiro , entao deixa o pai trabalhar que em pouco tempo a firma é nossa
E outra nao precisa ficar com medo do Lula e nem do Putin , porque voces gostam é de dinheiro , e dinheiro voces vao ter. Entao prepara , porque vai beijar os pés do Lula , é isso que vai acontecer . Voces vão beijar o pé do Lula , olha que loucura , presta atenção . Isso vai acontecer de verdade . Pra vcs verem que a única coisa que eles querem é dinheiro , então nós vamos resolver o problema de voces. Eu to com a parte mais dificil que é trazer o dinheiro , entao deixa o pai trabalhar que em pouco tempo a firma é nossa