US & Europe Want to Make Africa Cold War Battleground Against Russia & China w/Mikaela Nhondo Erskog
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
- The US and Europe have tried to make Africa a battleground in their Cold War against Russia and China. They‘ve even labeled Africa as NATO’s “Southern Neighborhood” and are using AFRICOM as a mechanism to control the continent under the guise of protecting it from malign Chinese and Russian influence.
What does this mean for sovereignty and independence across Africa and how are African countries pushing back? To help break it all down Rania Khalek was joined by Mikaela Nhondo Erskog, a researcher at the Tricontinental Institute for Social Research and a member of No Cold War and the Dongsheng News Collective.
Article discussed in the episode: Africa Does Not Want to Be a Breeding Ground for the New Cold War
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thank you for the incredible work you're doing BTN, love Ms. Khalek's Dispatches and the guests she gets on, and these episodes pushing back on the narrative China is a rival imperialist in Africa have been very enlightening in my opposition to the new cold war on China. keep up the great work and is Ms. Khalek reads this, would be an honor to have her back on 1+1.
USSR (current Russia) supported all liberation movement across Africa in the time of Western colonialism.
China has never colonized any other nation in its thousands year history.
So, you see who's who in this game in Africa.
All those former colonial powers are US allies.
You are naive too to think just because China not had the opportunity to colonize Africa, they won't do it now. China is no better than America, China, UK, France, Germany, Portugal, etc. You must take charge and management your own resources and be responsible to your own people. China do not, repeat, China do not like Africans. In fact, your people wants to dictate how and what Africans should think. So just stop it and go back to China.
@@birdsfire3638 You don't know anything about the history of either China or Africa.
China did have the opportunity to colonize Africa and they did not. During the Ming Dynasty a Chinese Admiral sailed around the world with a huge navy with ships the size of football fields each capable of carrying over 1500 men and hundreds of horses hundreds of canyons.
China then had the largest and most sophisticated navy in the world far larger than the British Navy when Britain was at its peak and Britannia ruled the waves.
The Chinese had flamethrowers, muskets and canyons and all together numbered over 30 000 to 40 000 men whenever they sailed together in a huge armada.
They often used to sail and trade with the African City states on East Africa off the coast of the Indian where Tanzania and Mozambique are right now.
Instead of invading and colonizing these places they came and traded and opened diplomatic relations with them.
They exchanged gifts and exchanged letters between Chinese high ranking officials and their local rulers.
Even today if you go to East Africa at the ruins of these city states you will be able to find Chinese coins and pots.
Africans also sailed in trad and diplomatic missions to India, Middle East and China.
The Chinese did the same with the Indian Kingdoms in the Indian sub continent, South East Asia, Middle East.
They came, they traded and opened diplomatic relations and left.
Then later a emperor came to power who decided to burn the entire Chinese navy and cut all contact with the outside world because he said the outside world was corrupting Chinese values and society.
China is over 4000 years old. They have never fought a single war outside their hemisphere. Each Chinese family has mearly 1 child. Do you really think they are going to make Chinese families send their only one son around the world to fight and die to dominate other nations and peoples.
The only place they would be willing to fight and die for is Taiwan. China ain't going to send their sons to fight and die to conquer any far away land.
It's not part of their culture or values. Its the West's
Not good to describe others as they do not know anything......You do not seem to realize that the one-child policy of China is communist and only inacted after 1948?. Before that all of China like anywhere else in the world "baby making machines".....Question! If China is forever so great how come parts of its mainland was seized by the Soviets( border skirmishes in the 1970s), by the Japanese (thanks to the surrender of Japan to the USA in 1945), the Mongolian and in the last 150 years by the Portuguese, the French and the British.....? In fact, the Europeans particularly the British like in other parts of the world hesitated the interland and were never really interested in the colonialism of mainland China but to trade with its huge population hence Hong Kong was founded.....Right or wrong, Mr China expert? Thank you.
@@danwelterweight4137 So so glad I found someone that know our African history without any ideology and mostly from an African I assume.
The US and the EU had every opportunity to aide Africa the way China, Russia and Turkiye are.
They chose neoliberalism colonialism and IMF debt slavery instead.
My understanding is that Neoliberalism leads to needing imperialism..
No one is "aiding" Africa. There are investment and political deals, yes. But not aid.
Wtf? 'Aiding'.
@@WillieFungo I mean debt forgiveness for infrastructural projects is basically aid through building of almost free infrastructure (only costing the bills before cancelling). China forgave 23 loans for 17 African countries. Other than that, yeah there's no aid, only trade. But maybe, hopefully there will be more aid.
@@urrywest capitalisms leads to needing imperialism by the necessity of needing new markets and infinite growth
if u wanna know more read "imperialism the highest stage of capitalism"
Not just Africa: the world needs Russia and China to come through with this multipolar or fair world order.
china really
@@sbahlehlabangana8611 yeah. China for real.
@@sbahlehlabangana8611 China is the deal. It even ignored the provoke from US trying to fuel war in Taiwan..
that's a fact... Caribbean - South America - All of Asia
Henry Kissinger Quote: “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
The United States decided to allow war ravaged Europe in 1947 to rebuild on the back of Africa. China and Russia supported the African Freedom Fighters. The United States encouraged and supported the settler colonist. The final stage of decolonization is now in progress. Thanks for your information and commitment.
Do you think the colonies build Europe 😂
Bravo
@@jaip7399 yes with The African cheap or close to nothing labor and cheap or close to nothing materials and African natural resources
@@jamalsinjab5137
Complete myth😂
Not many Africans in Europe during ww2.
@@jaip7399Africans r the reason Europe is free, African soldiers had to help the weak french army against Hitler only to be genocided
Great discussion. One thing the rest of the world outside of Africa needs to know, is that the liberation and self determination of African peoples, is liberation for everyone.
Every one around.
Also, people who want to be free eventually achieve freedom, no matter how long it takes.
@@baphithiAgree with u but the youths of Africa can’t wait that long. Our impatience can one day erupt
The first cold war ruined Africa during decolonization. RIP Lumumba, Sankara and all those leaders that were killed because of it.
kadafi
@@seanou2837😢
Those leaders would been unalived regardless of the Cold War. They tried or signaled their of national using their mineral resources. To the west, this was enough to delete them from humanity.
It always gives me a chuckle when the empire warns countries about China's "debt trap." A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Worse than that. It's the pot calling the porridge black.
There is NO debt trap! It was just normal loans but if any country can't do their repayments to China, the west termed it 'debt trap' to smear China. But if any country can't repay their western loans, it is not debt trap? Jeez!
fact is EU and US ,IMF have the most debt ratio borrow to Africa and interest rates are higher too.
@@kwanmike9993 option now, BRICS+
It is a debt trap. Russia and China are no different than the West.
So important to actually listen to people from Africa and Asia, not only to western experts that talk about those continents.
"Experts"
@@Nickademas1 so called experts, i meant :)
Almost all the western experts have never lived in Africa.
All of them have no experience of living with Africans and hearing what ordinary people think and do, and why. They make such terrible assumptions that are drawn from stereotypes of what Africa is and what Africans are.
@@baphithi of course those "experts" just keep on their racist colonial mindset. They talk about Africans as if they didn't knew how to deal with their own problems. As if they were children or somehow stupid. At the same time they fought every socialist government that has been installed by the Africans themselves. I hope that socialist China, the nemesis of capitalism can prevail. That would empower democratic, socialist movements in Africa to finally get rid of the colonial grip. cheers and solidarity, comrade!
So right, a good example is Asia Society, a Western 'think tank' with not a single Asian on their panel.
I recently heard a very good quote about exploitation in Africa:
"Private capital misbehaves. Private capital misbehaves everywhere in the world."
There are certainly cases where Chinese private capital have done terrible things in Africa, but the important point is that the Chinese state actively cracks down on such cases so that Chinese-African relations can be improved. Can the same be said of the private capital and the state of the imperialist countries?
How long has your country allowed ((Chin🇨🇳Town?)), how has (China🇨🇳Town) helped your country?.
Not in a million years!!!
@@rajlowkie6616 huh? Wtf are you on?
@@Vhlathanosh(" topoftheworld ") .
Tania and Mikaela, thank you for the clear and courageous report. I am shocked at how many military bases US has in Africa. You are spot on about the military bases protecting your resources for US benefits and not Africa. Everything will go to the US and very little will be left for Africa to gain. US and European strategy is to ensure Africa has no chance to develop. They keep hammering you down. May your leaders be wise and work for the good of the African people. And be vigilant. Leaders who really care and work for the good of their own people and not the US become targets for regime change. Then US installs their puppets and the ruin, rape and destruction of that country is inevitable.
Ya,since historic times to now, the wedthad proven n proven,taking or "robbing" other's wealth n resources, only their own private gains 🧐🧐🧐🤔🤔🤔
She's brilliant, she definitely knows what is going on in Africa.
She a leftist puppet. Communism, Socialism, Democracy are all European constructs for political and economic issues in EUROPE and not Africa. Africa needs African solutions to their problems. All I hear is the West, Russia and China and not Africa.
She is my daughter loce from Mozambique..thanks..
I've caught her speaking to International Manifesto Group besides the Tri-Continental too. She a great Pan-Africanist.
One of the best news shows on youtube!
Thank you for this information which is not the usual fare presented to Americans about what the US is doing in Africa.
A wonderful guest who explained the situation in Africa brilliantly to a novice like me. Thankyou so. ♥
When it comes to understanding of Russo-African and China-Africa relations the context goes much further than the current geopolitical climate. China isn't coming to Africa for the first time. The two have had trade relationships since before US even existed, further back to the spice trade. It only froze in the last century. The hesitance of Africa to be firm on Russia apart from current economic necessity, also goes further back to the cold war.
When it was happening, a lot of African countries were fighting for indipendence. A lot of African indipendence movements were funded and aided by Russia, China and the pro-communist block. Some went to Russia and Cuba for education and for protection from European colonialists. Naturally, the African governments that came immediately after became Pro-Russia and Pro-socialist. With fall of USSR the faith in communism waned and many turned to US led capitalism. However sentimentality towards Russia remains for the previously mentioned reasons. It's disturbing that we seem to be hurtling towards a similar situation again. And that the west's attitude towards Africa remains imperialist in nature. Honestly, I thought we'd gotten to a place where this was over, but guess not.
And it will never be over in one way. the EU and USA fucking us. At the meantime their is also a lot of afrophobia and xenophobia sentiment within the African continent and if we didn't take care of it we will be the audience of our own instinction.👌🏾😂😂😂
The West also supplied arms to countres that aligned them as well. Also the USSR had several bases in Africa (imperialism) and also helped the Durge murder Selassie and kill millions. Same outcomes in Somalia and Angola. Seems like the only thing the USSR/Russia do is supply arms to Africans to kill each other.
NO ! Africa, as Battleground 😈 All out of Africa. Total Independence. Love to Africa from Senegal 🙏❤🌍
You can't do it alone.
Thank you Rania...thank you Mika! It is so good to hear from people throughout the African continent; no more of 'someone else' speaking for them. No more.
More accurately in Africa, it is USA vs EU (no friends here in the fight for other people's resources) vs UK (last desperate bid for imperial glory) vs Russia/China/India (playing fair amongst themselves but hostile to the others) vs Middle East (a fight to continue to sell fossil fuels over the long term). Multinational corporations, hiding behind African Corporations in the fight to pillage resources, really quite awful. Seen as the last continent where corruption can dominate in the greed to pillage resources, with nothing much left for the people living there.
What world are you living in? Is there any difference between USA, EU & UK as they are part of WB/IMF/Paris Club? Lack of nuance & ability to discern will doom you forever.
Respectfuly John we ber I think you have missed the point. His observation is truly accurate, and if you would see it, you would realize. He is saying there is no real difference between all these devil's disguises. The outcome is painfully the same for us normal ones living in the wake of the damnation of these acts..
Africa has been used by empires and superpowers as a spring board. Babylon, Greece, Rome, Arabs, Ottomans, Portugal, UK, US. The USSR/Russia and China is no different. If you think they are you are fooling yourself. If Africa doesn't deal with its inner issue it will be history repeating itself. Exchanging Western masters for Eastern Masters.
God will protect Africa, you can have your own plans but you wait and see how strong Africa will be in 30 or 40 years time.
ALMIGHTY GOD will surely protect Africa. The devil has it's plan, but God has HIS FINAL saying. .
Thanks Rania and Mika for the world to know the truth.
regime change that's what they good at
Thank you for the nuanced conversation. What is also important is to have an extended dialogue on how the continent is still colonized and the only neo part of it is that it is no longer settler colonized, and the US has been added to the oppressor mix. The oppression and control is still in play as most apparent with the French and the Congo. The majority of Africa's so called leaders are still controlled by the US and EU colonizers. Africa is the foundation on which the global economy is built. The body on which the parasitic economic powers will leech off and extract. US and EU oppress and all other comers do it differently, but they still do it.
French West Africa is control by France in another way. they use the Franc issued by France.
My advice to the south African president he has be very careful because there are a number of military 🪖 white commanders in their army a coup in South Africa 🇿🇦 is ineligible, you know its western Europeans and Americans made the apatite regime so they are talking to Russians and China 🇨🇳 this evil 😈 country's won't be happy 🙄.
Don't forget they overthrown Nkrumah of Ghana and many more besides Tony Blair tried vegously to let south African army to invade Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 to overthrown mugabe but south African president Embeke refused so many times, so someone should a let's the present south African president to be vigilant and don't forget most black people are weak we have some black commanders in their army but remember it's was a black south African man who betrayed Nelson Mandela 😉
A word to the wise is enough 🙌
@@kojobowers8715 just be careful period. Any African leader hoping to be independent should be.
"The Cold War has made the developing nations realize that they have nothing to gain from power struggles between superpowers." - Henry Kissinger
Kissinger was one of the biggest hypochlorites to walk the face of the earth. When Kissinger received the noble peace prize for a US invasion that went on all through his term.. This is when I realized, noble and his "peace" prize group was high jacket by US interest.
@@wavelength7503 is he a has been? 👀
@@Komeshokakunanwene garbage bin.
@@wavelength7503 seriously? He is still around man.
@@Komeshokakunanwene of course he is, only the good die young. WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
Glad to see some young Africans know what's really going on
The Rise of the Black nations !
Sovereign countries should consider starting up big data companies. The meta data of their populations are a gold mine, so why not start a big tech company that is owned by the state and only use the data of the people in a way that is good for the country and the people.
I hope that would never happen. Unfortunately, that's the future of technology. The trend in technology is to automate and to centralize.
If people don't take a more reasonable approach to technology growth to make technology grow to serve rather than to freely evolve things might take a weird path.
The Western drama in Africa is all but over.
Yes the secrets about NATO and USA is out now 😂😂 now the whole world know your games in African continent so we love Russia and China to come through
It is imperative that maintains it’s independence and protect its many resources from foreign blood-suckers of their resources.
Pan African solidarity for all
The lady has international relations quality...🇿🇦✊🏾
An excellent interview, and discussion, Mika is exceptionally aware, and an extremely intelligent young woman.
It is very obvious to those have some understanding in power. The US military is a subsidiary of American multinationals corporations, dating back to Coca-Cola........." "I'd Like To By The World Coke" as the advertisement sells ie. Coca-Cola is a trademark of" Democracy".
To aline with a country/ Germany who tried to take over the world twice, can never be trusted again. In this conversation things are very familiar to what Nazi Germany, and WW ll. Except the names, dates have changed.
I quote Mika ; "China does not enter in the conversation having creating the condition on which we require so much forgien investment" that is the biggest factor.
Very cogent analysis by Mikaela and then very worrisome for Africa. On the one hand, leaders voices from Africa are encouraging suggesting that they recognize the new scramble, but on the other hand nearly 30 African states out of 54 are hosting US military bases and posts! In the recent US-Africa several states have signed long-term mineral agreements that will support military-industrial adventurism of US and Europe in Africa. It is rich analysis like this on hypocrisy and double-handedness that should be more visible to more African leaders. Pursuing national goals individually expose each African state to manipulation! Be ware. Mikaela continue your brilliant analysis and activism and Raina continue to host speakers like Mika.
The USSzr had military bases in Africa as well. Russia also has Wagner Group killing africas, taking diamonds and supporting despotic African leaders. Soon Chinese and Russian troops will be deployed to protect their interests in Africa and this channel will pit out vids justifying it. Africas hatred for the west is clouding its judgment and letting in foreign entities that will use them just the same.
It should be remembered that South Africa is a member of BRICS, and that should be remembered.
Secondly, Russia and china has never been enemies of Africa and as such africans have no reasons to be against them.
The former slave masters and former colonisers should just step back
Agree bro
Only thing new about US strategy in Africa is,its murderous brutal thirst to own Africa's mineral wealth will cause more death than ever before.
Genius Analysis
Every analysis is full of biases. Change is instant and begins with thinking globally but acting locally. The society is you and me and we have caused this mess by making what our experiences are our identity. If the challenge of change is to be dilute, and if going back to the drawing board becomes a thing it must start with how we individually respond to that knowledge that advice us at the moment. A system does survive due to its beuracraces but it also does not make room for those who desire change and that's why one must do it alone and rip the benefits or experience the consequence that may tighten ones desire to be critical of any approach to change.
Western slavery. colonial empire, coups,
invasions are not malign?!
Thank you very much for this quality show.This show today made me think about the problem of African People in Lebanon caused by the kafala system. Will you make a show about that as well?
You won't get one, Anti black racism in the middle east and the Arab Wold is not this channels concern (in looking at you north africa!) It's only concern is revisionist leftist history and how to force africans to be socialist. Exchanging Western Masters for Eastern Masters.
China and Russia support Sudan and North African nations that treat their black population as slaves. Black people (who were there before any energy or arab) are called abeed (slave). Don't expect coverage of this either.
I feel sorry for Africa in the New Cold War, because African leaders cannot be trusted to put the people (aka Lumumba) over their personal gains (aka Mobutu).
100% agree. This channel is only promoting China/Russian geopolitical influence instead of what Africa needs. African leaders who want to build and heal Africans. Not Western or Eastern puppets for outside governments
Totally intelligent analysis 👍🏻👍🏻
If Africa want to be second Ukraine can follow US EU's saying
Secondly, Africa’s biggest elephant in the room is still itself. No outsider can solve Africa’s most fundamental social riddles but itself. Our collective leadership needs to set in motion a moment of reckoning for our continent. We desperately need to sing from the same hymn sheet as soon as possible. Compromises and sacrifices will be needed to unlock Africa’s true potential. Selfless leadership amongst other strategies will be required to make this a reality. The question is whether Africa is ready, willing and mature enough to do the right things for itself. One of our key decisions is going to be our priority of national versus continental sovereignty. Either has its pros and cons. The key question will be which is more important. My feeling is that our individual countries are not strong enough to mount a challenge of the world order on their own. But as continent of 1 billion souls or more, we have immense potential to redefine life on this planet in a fundamental and long lasting way
Better questions is how are african leaders going to advance african interests.
We are actually disappointed that USA and European countries including the France want to keep Africa poor permanently. Now BRICS want to see African countries out of poverty. They are actually not even ashamed to use military forces to keep African countries poor.
My advice to Africa is this: be careful to go to bed with someone who has hurt you deeply for centuries before. And who still benefit hugely from the pain of your back. The minimum way those who have hurt and scarred you so much before; can even think of regaining any semblance of your trust, should be through meaningful repatriations for the hurt they have caused you before, and continue to exploit today. The minimum should be to clear all debt. Create fair markets, and invest in the development of our people at least through high level education. The fact the majority of the continent still owes European nations and their allies the USA colonial debts to this day, is sufficient proof to be extremely careful of them. They are not courting Africa because they care about it. Until a dramatic change of scenery happens; I would advise Africa to stay far away from them.
Has Russia, the Soviet Union or China ever enslaved and tortured Africans before? No. Have they come to our defence meaningfully before? Yes… this is not a complicated topic or discussion. It just needs lucid thinking. In my opinion does not warrant further debate. Africa should make its demands and stay firm. The ball should be in their court.
Strengthen your sovereignty Africa, and build relationships that will work for you. It is your turn to shine. Do not lose the opportunity.
All what I can remark, is thanks to Russia and China 🙏
Rania you're surely one of Gods children Thank You Stay Safe
When the US wanted to bring chaos for some countries it would invent a reason and stubbornly stick to it
Excellent content 👌 👏 👍
This was such a really good conversion; I hope that you continue to focus on Africa; it's the next continent of conflict.
Thank you very much. Mikaela is very knowledgable and great discussion.
Since the Berlin conference It has always been about Afruca and its recourses.
Excellent guest Rania, thank you.
As an African Caribbean it's a great pleasure listening to you.Carry on the good work sisters.I pray and hope that you become President of a United state of Africa.God bless.
What can you tell us about integration of African economies - African Central Bank, African Development Bank, One Currency, One Centralized Military Command with Branches in each country, etc?
Great Women for Great Causes!
AFRICA UNITE!
GOD BLESS!
I like Mikaela though. Her deep knowledge and beauty are amazing
The States want to dictate what Africa countries do. They tell us what to do, who to be friends with. That's is colonisation on different level. Just leave us alone!
informative .. 🙏👍😀
Africa is becoming increasingly articulate in exposing Western cynicism in foreign policy tactics throughout the developing world. It is a great relief to learn the name of the most recently fashioned weapon against Africa by the West; AFRICOM.
Thanks to two intelligent and brave ladies expressing their views. Cheers
Great interview, thanks
This conversation should be broadcasted on major television network in Africa, though i know it wont happen because they are remotely controlled by the multinational corporations.
Excellent discussion .
As a nigga from the hood never had much interest in this kind of stuff but the way yall broke it down got me understanding the importance and connection this plays to us African Americans
Interesting Topic 🌸🌷🌸 Thank You for the Episode, Ladies 🌺🌺
Mika's hair is the real star of the show!
Great interview!
Thank you very much, for the good job
All what both of you have said are understandable and the sentiments are also understandable, but realities, common sense and economic issues should guide Africa,
Rania 💥
Take they wars to their own countries... 🙄👎🏽
Not this time without a fight from all the Diaspora that has awakened just as you have. We know what they are doing.
Did the African Leaders ask Mr Biden about the French policy towards Africa
Excellent for a Friday ...
Most Africans are aware of what Westerners are doing.
Keep up the good 👍😎 job
The world has had enough of US governments hegemony & British/EU colonialism…
Respect & support to Africa for finally standing up for their own rights & freedom from oppression, tyranny & exploitation from Western colonial powers.
Thank you for news what is happening in Afrika, hardly to find balanced news
Their goal is to keep you poor, Africa, what is your goal? They have communicated their intentions with no uncertain terms.
China has clearly demonstrated a reliable partner in Africa investments, infrastructure and development. China does not intervene in Africa countries politics. The west has refused to significantly invest on Africa.
The real tragedy is now Africa is at risk of nuclear war coming there too! Before they were one the safest continents...Now thanks to the West and East...That factor of safety is no longer! Peace
NATO has to go out of business
I have never really been inspired by vids on UA-cam to comment on issues of this nature. But this vid has me lit!
There's a lot of stuff on the youtube that's similar to this content, please try to search.
Excellent discussion
Thank you.✌
Informative information here quite interesting at stake for scrutiny openess. Listen and get informed for the future.
They really think Africa is stupid.
Theyre using the land not for battle among themselves but for ownership of their land.
They already have a huge military base called Diego Garcia . What they do not know is that The Almighty Creator created Africans in His own image and fights for and protects Africa.
we must help Africa from being enslaved by Russia and China. we must protect our Africans
I love your chanel, love your questions to guest. Good work.
How killed Gaddafi?How killed Lumumba?How killed Sankara?
Their bones are turning
Africa have to stand up this time with Russia and china
Colonizers 👿 Imperialist & Slave Traders👿 Out of Africa Forever. Total Independence. Love from Senegal 🇸🇳❤ 🌍🙏
Lgbts out kkkkk
Nothing good will come of Africa's association with European oligarchs. European citizens are welcome, but the problem is the oligarchs in Europe. Europeans also need freedom from thousand of years of feudalism. and oligarchy.
This is real journalism!
Super video as usual.
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Informative information for knowledge seekers for necessary acquiring of more knowledge needed for better conclusions from the real NARRATIVES of the DAY.
What does America provide African nations that African nations can't live without?
A very important question
Finally some is thinking the same thing as well🧘🏾♂️