ALTRA Torin 6 vs Escalante 3 | The comparison you have all been waiting for.
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Have you always wanted to know the difference between the Altra Torin 6 and Altra Escalante 3? Do you finally want to know which shoe is best for you? The wait is over. This is a comparison video between these two road running shoes by Altra.
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Thanks so much for mentioning insole sizing is only one part of the shoe size equation! We need to spread the word. :)
Good review! I'm an Escalante fan since the beginning, got them for both running and casual. The foam does break down relatively fast, that's right, but then they make for great casual shoes. I think the laces of the Escalante 3 are a bit on the short side, can barely lay a firm knot without locking my feet in too tight. However, they are my go to race shoes and runners for distances over 10k. For the rest I train in Xero HFS barefoot shoes to get my feet as strong as possible.
Could you elaborate what you mean by the foam breaking down? I have run 240+km on my new Escalante 3s (bought in early July). I'm not used to running in shoes with cushioning (previously ran in VFF KSO Evos and V-Runs). The Escalante 3s are my first venture into cushioned shoes.
I've recently bought a pair of Xero HFS II coz of the recent new release (great discount). Planning for my shoe rotation to be VFF V-Runs/HFS II for slower runs to build feet strength and Escalante 3s for long runs or faster sessions. I've ran one HM in the Escalante 3s, and have plan to use them for future HMs. That's a lot of additional info. Lol.
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Great video. I have both shoes and enjoy both. I weigh 190 pounds and prefer the Torin for longer runs. I think the Escalante is a great shoe overall and I enjoy wearing it as a casual shoe
Yeah, I also think the Escalante is a great casual shoe and even looks good. Torin 6 has a real dad shoe vibe 🙈
I agree, the Esky is Altra for me. All of the other models I own do have likeable qualities. They keep runs interesting but the Esky is always the measure by which they are judged. Excellent reviews, always and I hope Altra appreciate, support and promote your chan into the future. Best wishes for 2023 mate
Thanks mate! BTW, I'm stealing that name: Esky. Love it!
Thanks for the review. I voted for this one. Great comparison as always. I used the Paradigms for my long runs and Escalante Racer for speed or short runs (or where I want to have fun and pick things up a bit). Have been wondering if the Torin would be good for me when my Paradigms finally die. Was good to see your thoughts on them. Not sure I like the higher heel but the tongue is probably the biggest dealbreaker for me.
Yeah, that tongue is pretty horribly designed 🙈
Thanks, a great comparison, no fluff.
Always happy to help! I'm not into fluff myself 😅 just here to be of service
The Torin 6 has a strip across the toes inside that digs into my little toe, which is a shame as I like them apart from that.
I use Topo Athlitic shoes because they fit better, have tried a few Altra's but never got on with them for various reasons and also was disappointed that they are too narrow when they are supposed to be wide, the Topo seem to have a better foot shape for my hobbit feet.
They sound too small tbh
@@plain-bagel could be, but they are the same size as my mont blancs and have 2cm gap in front of my toes, just some reinforced piece inside the toe box digs/rubs on the side of my little toe, I can still use them, I just stick a plaster or some tape on my little toes.
@@trailsandbeers 2 cm is way too much. 1-1.5 max is ideal. This might be the issue.
Great review, well done.
Thanks 😁
Not all of us been waiting for. I voted timp 4 vs outroad 😂😂
You just didn't know it yet. 😉
Thanks for the video. Often the outsole material is missed in shoe reviews so it would be good to get detailed comments in all videos on that. Because if you invest in only one pair and they don’t do well in rain then you are kinda stumped. So are they the same and what is the traction and grip like for both?
That's for the feedback! Traction seems better on the Torin IMHO. There's a little more rubber. Both are OK, but unfortunately Altra isn't famous for their traction in wet conditions :-( Here in northern Germany it seems to rain more than not during the winter. As long as I don't run on anything slick or smooth while it rains, it's OK. Running on wet roads and footpaths, you'll have good traction.
Hey Mate! Love all your vids! You seem to have reviewed nearly every Altra shoe, except for the Altra Superior 5. How come you don't check this one out? is it because its too similar to the LP6? or Escalante Racer?
Hey! I actually have reviewed the Superior 5, back in August 2021. I really like them, but mainly for shorter trail runs. 😊
I love the Superior 5. It’s so light for a trail shoe, it’s my go to for ultra races.
Amazing 😍
Wow. already >300km, and Escalante outsole still intact, shows no to little deterioration. Are you also use the Escalante for speed training (e.g., Sprinting) ?....
I prefer using my Vanish Tempos for faster workouts. The rocker shape helps me keep my cadence and pace up.
I like using the Escalante as a daily trainer or when I feel my feet need a strength workout after running in higher stacked shoes for too long.
They look absolutely fine after 330km, but I do feel a slight loss in bounce.
Due to the upper soaking up water, I'm currently not running in them much because it's pretty wet here in Germany at the moment.
Really helpful review, as I am deciding between these two. Currently in the Lone Peak 6, which I love - so I'm looking for the closest in foot shape/cushioning/feel to that shoe. Do you think the Escalante is the one for me?
I think it's the closest Altra road shoe. Not as wide though, but same midsole, cushioning and running feel.
how possible would it be to play lateral moving sports in either of these? like basketball?
That's tough to say. They're pretty wide, so I'd be afraid to twist an ankle.
Great video. Do you have the normal Torin's or the Wide ones?
Normal 😊 I actually think there's only 1 colourway for the wide version, but I could be wrong.
@@TDMiller you're right lol
Question, I tried on the Escalante‘s in the store, and it felt like more than what they advertised like more than the 24 today measure their stack height because different companies do it differently with or without the insole I’m just trying to figure out because usually 24 is really good for me and I saw my Byam butt. They felt more when I was in the store now that I could’ve been because it is zero drop.
Hey, unlike most brands, Altra calculates the stack height including the insoles. Generally speaking, the insoles Altra usually uses are 5mm thick.
How much more flexible is the sole of the Torin respect the.Escalante?
Is it something percepible?
Not much difference that I can tell 😊
the upper of the Escalante 3 unfortunately does not fit my feet. I had the strange bumps you mentioned about the Torin in a terrible way in the escalantes (went back to the 2.5 which are perfect for me). long story short. I need a new pair of Altras for my long runs. would you go with the Torin 6 or maybe go for the Rivera 3 (didn't like the rivera 2 though)?
I personally didn't like the Rivera 1 or 2 that much, and have decided to not test the 3 (yet). Simply because I don't think they'll fit in my shoe rotation at the moment.
The Torin does have more space than the Rivera. My feet tend to swell up during longer runs, so I need that extra space. Or you can take out the insoles to create a little more space.
@@TDMiller thanks for your detailed answer. just purchased them for less than 120 bucks 🙂
PS regarding Escalante and foot cramps: did my longrun today in the Escalantes (despite knowing it's not a good idea from experiences in the past) even though I should have strong feet from 2 years running zero drop and in addition to that countless hours in barfoot shoes, after 90min my feet still got beaten up.
How much is the sole of the Escalante stiffer than the other shoes, like the Torin 6? I guess it must be noticeable during running. It's kinda unnatural - but that is coming from a Vibram wearing runner. Is the Escalante only Standard fit? I need either Original or Wide fit.
Escalante only comes in standard, I'm afraid. The Escalante does feel slightly stiffer than the Torin, and you'll be working your feet and legs a little harder to get the same kind of rebound as the Torin. I find the EgoMax in the Torins to be very bouncy in comparison to the Ego midsole of the Escalante. And the other shoes that have the regular Ego midsole, like the Rivera and Outroad, seem to be less stiff despite the extra few mm stack.
The Escalante Racer is categorised as a standard fit, but I have heard people say they consider them wider than the regular.
@@TDMiller Ey thanks for your reply. I just got the Lone Peak 6 delivered and me being used to Vibrams i got shocked how stiff the sole is, and how much arch support it has. One question: The LP6 has an incredibly stiff sole. How much more flexible are the soles of the street models, like the Torin 6 compared to the LP6?
ps: Does the Torin 6 have arch support? The LP6 unfortunately does.
Will you recommend the Torin 6 for a 90km run ?
I wouldn't know why not! They're definitely comfortable enough for going the distance.
How did you know that i've searched torin6 vs escalante 3?
Because I'm you from the future 🔮 😱
Did you have some extra kilometers with the Torin 6. Is the durability ok?
So far I've "only" done 125km in them, and they still look good to me.
After 3 years of not running (injury) and only cycling I started again with running😱. The Altra Torin 2.5 are still ok. But i did not use them a lot years ago.🤪🤗
I tried the Escalante in a 8.5 and the volume in the toe box was horrible should I try going to a 9.5?
I'm actually unsure how much volume would be added by sizing up, but you could try running in them without the insole?
I'm thinking about Torin 6 and Superior 5. Do you suggest Torin 6 fits true to size, but to size up by half for superior? My typical shoe size is 9 US, but I had to size up by half (9.5) for Rivera 2.
I have both in a size 10US and am happy with my choice. Rivera 2 I did size up half, so I don't think you'll need to size up for the Superior.
@@TDMiller Thank you!
@@TDMiller Sorry - one follow-up. Do you think both Torin 6 and Superior 5 fit similar to Lone Peak 6? (LP6 is what I have now).
To me, the Lone Peak always feels a little bigger. They're made to be wider than other Altras. I also wear them in my true to size and am happy. I might even be able to wear them half a size down, but there's no real need.
I'm always happy to help 😊
How long is your longest foot in cm?
About 25.5cm 😊
@@TDMiller so thats why my shoes are too tight from Altra. I need a size 10 instead of 9.5, my feet are 26 cm long. TY for answering.
@@DevelopingNL it also depends on preference. I've had too many bloody toenails in the last, so I like a bigger fit. 😅
@@TDMiller I just got the superior in 9.5 it is too snug. Which size do you use in that shoe?
@@DevelopingNL size 10US /44EU