Chinese can't tell the difference between German, American or Russian and lump them all as whites. But to be fair how many Americans can tell the difference between Korean, Japanese or Chinese?
I don't think the idea is to be able to differentiate people based on their appearance - I doubt I'd be able to pick out between, say, Danes, Dutch and Germans, but to appreciate that there are differences between all these different people, instead of lumping them all into one group.
I am bilingual. The response from the Chinese waiter laowhy didn't translate is "I haven't seen Jews before but based on what we learned from the book. Jews are not the smartest, probably same level as us but (I think) they are good business people and know how to make money." This obviously contradicts with the stereotype discussed here.
Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 850 individuals, of whom at least 22% were Jewish or people of Jewish descent, although Jews comprise less than 0.2% of the world's population (or 1 in every 500 people). Meaning, Jews are clearly not just smart about making money. (By the way, Chinese people make up 20% of the world's population--or 1 in every 5 people--and have won about 1% of the Nobel Prizes). How 'bout them apples, David Chen?
The China's science and technology were not advanced as western countries. China is still a developing country. However, I would say the Chinese students have a better attitude toward studying.
***** Your post is pure anti-Semitic garbage that appeals to the uneducated, the same people who believe outlandish conspiracy theories. 6 million Jews were murdered---it is a simple fact documented and verified by thousands of credible sources, including the most respected academies and institutions of the world. Your screen name says everything. Go back to your hole.
Dude, I came across your channel by accident and I'm loving the hell out of it, very informative, like im actually learning stuff that happens there and not the "generalizations"，laughing at the jokes you guys make "is my nose big orsomething" hahaha and the interaction between you two is amazing. I subscribed. 你们真棒。
Winston I wish you’d post some of your videos in South Africa before you came to China because I don’t hear your South African accent. If anything I think being in China changed it. I noticed c-milk for example using Canadian phrases and other phrases from other English speaking counties, “Eh”
1:02 - 1:18 *inspired* seriously amazing, the silence makes it even more incredible u guys are great, and trippy XD HOW DID MORE PEOPLE NOT MENTION THE TECHNIQUE U USED? ? ? THANK YOU!!! for caring a bit about your art & for filming & editing so well, i can tell u love what you're doing! & thanks for getting drunk & being random as fuck with Prozzie in these videos hahaha... I'm glad u created these, it makes me laugh, & learn somewhat obscure things about a different culture! :D it's the best So sad thisss series was a little short lived, but i get that it's hard when you're tryin to expand your audience & see ur family too :P Good luck with all LaoWhy team
Haha C-Milk when i see you in these videos i keep thinking that Winston is a too serious of a guy to match your personality where you keep roasting/getting roasted by counterfeit Franco :p Great topic, great banter, nice video lads ^_^
+Yolo Swaggins thanks Yolo! That's just how our personal channels work. Winston and I are very close friends, it is just that our style of making videos together is about exploration and topical motorcycle related stuff. The way I have always done my videos on my channel is a bit more loose and relaxed.
Dudes! This is a pretty good explanation about things with Chinese culture from a Westerners point of view. I was with a friend in Zhongshan that looked Asian but didn't speak any Asian language since he was raised in Europe and noticed he had a totally different experience from local Chinese as well as foreigners! You should do a video on that as well! The Chinese couldn't understand why he never responded to them and when I told them he was Meiguo, that stunned look and silence it drew from the Chinese people was total disbelief. At the same time when he speaks with expats there it's a double take for them.
If I understood the laoban around 13:00, he said " no I don't consider them intelligent but they're crafty (for lack of a better term) and good at making money"?
Britain is traditionally a socialist county, so it was all about knocking down the nail that sticks out (i.e. the successful person). Now it's very different and is even shown in recent politics with the downfall of the Labour party.
The chiding thing is that you don't talk too much about your success or you may come across as egotistical. Americans tend to sell themselves more, so can come off in more conservative countries as being self-absorbed or big headed.
The Jacket patch is from Alert, Nunavut, Canada on the northern tip of Ellesmere Island is the northernmost inhabited community on earth. I am guessing it might be his dads as the date said 1980, I spent a month there very remote and interesting.
Bruce MacAulay that's even worst than Top Gun. It's one thing to buy a cheesy department store knockoff. It's even worst transforming yourself into a POSER lol Reminds me of "lost valor." I can see the argument about being a treasured family belonging but taking it overseas is over the top.....
When I was visiting China with my Chinese mom people stared at me. I'm Chinese German and people thought I was a tall Mongolian. It was actually kinda funny.
Great video guys -- I used to live in Colombia and know the ex-pat drill -- or at least I think I do. I'm heading to China again and pleased to have another opportunity to ride the ride. After viewing some ex-pat videos warning against a recent rise in anti-foreign sentiment (in China), I smiled to myself knowing my country wrote the book on fearing and mistreating strangers. China has a long way to go before they achieve such heights of xenophobia. A smile opens a world of doors -- yes, one must practice common sense, but being a dick is never good practice or form. The human community can be pretty grand if you let it out in the open air. You gents seem to be doing just fine with a generous portion of humor!
The Canadian system is much more similar to the British system, than to the US. Particularly the way the way the government and society operates,....and that would make sense given Canada is still a commonwealth country based on British law.
It's really no different anywhere. It's just the severity of the stereotype from people all over the world. I was born in a big city in Texas, but overseas, they think we are all cowboys. I haven't been to China yet, but Japan and the Philippines also had common misconceptions of foreigners in general. I'm sure it's common all over the globe. Thanks for the videos, I'm learning a lot about China from you and others I subscribe to. I will go there shortly for a visit and I would like to learn some Mandarin first. These videos help us get acquainted with a different culture before we actually get there.
Hi Prozzie. I'm also from Ottawa. How did you end up in China ? I ended up in Russia but quite close to northern China. I was in Novosibirsk, Siberia. If you look on the map you'll see where on the middle part of China, the border has a north pointing peak and straight up from it is Novosibirsk. Love your views on China. Hope you can keep it up.
I am a new subscriber that will be moving to Chengdu next year to teach English. Great info to have. I have lived in 8 different countries. I think you have to realize that as a rule (although there are exceptions) most of the Chinese who stereotype have a small world view. I used to have one when I grew up in Louisiana but thanks to the USAF and traveling I definitely view things different now.
I am Chinese, I get same type of stereotype in UK as well. It is hard for Western ppl to identify Asians as they can not identify whether an Asian is from China Japan or Korea. It is the same for Asians, for example I can recognise the difference between an American and a Russian, but I can not see the difference between A Scandinavian person and a British person or a German unless they speak their own language infront of me. BTW, China is a huge country, just like the US and CANADA, northern Chinese actually look like a different race with the southerners, you will realize this when you live in China for a Long time...
Many Chinese know much less about Canada than the US, but they generally have extremely positive stereotypes of the Canadians compared to those of the Americans. Due to the Hollywood movies, the most commonly believed stereotypes of Americans by most Chinese especially by the less educated Chinese or the very local Chinese who cannot speak English and never have a chance to travel is that USA always remind them of MONEY, SEX, GUNS and WARS. And it's not just the Chinese people's stereotypes of America, but also the stereotypes of the Americans in many other countries.
I bought a cup of coffee in the airport in Guangzhou, and after I worked out the money conversion I found out that it had cost me 13 dollars. An American laughed and told me "The Chinese are the Jews of the Orient."
Why don't you put a link for Prozzy's channel in the show notes? Professional & friendly courtesy yeah. I thought you were saying Frozzy and it took forever to find him. Anyway, best to you all.
Canadians have a "tall tree" syndrome: the mindset that resents the success of others and shares with the Aussies, Kiwis & Brits in our use of self deprecating humour, too. The guys who started Vice had to leave Montreal and head to NYC mostly because of that exact reason.
CMilk, I think open means in a good way when Chinese people say it, they try to say some good thing about you but actually knowing nothing about you or where you from. I think open originated from 1987 where Deng XiaoPing opened up the market, so open is a positive but not specific means.
Some Guy Not saying I think this... but if you live anywhere in the West, you do have to acknowledge that people do think this! -_- #! If in your city, people can actually tell the difference and aren't ignorant about it, Well, you live in a city where variety in Asians is abundant! And living in a city where its citizens aren't particularly well educated about Asians doesn't mean they are stupid, they are just ignorant about that topic.. (Maybe they don't give a shit about Asians)
I'm Canadian and have studied in France. Even well educated French people don't really draw any cultural differences between Canadian and Americans. Until I lived in France i never knew I would simply be identified as an anglo saxon as opposed to continental european culture. Then again until I lived in France I didn't know the great cultural difference found in different french regions which is true of most european countries. Same is true of most countries but even the larger european countries are pretty small.
I love Canada and visited the major cities in Quebec (Quebec City, Montreal, Trois Rivieres), Ontario (Ottawa, Toronto, Niagara Falls) , New Brunswick (St. John, Moncton, Fredericton), Nova Scotia (Truro, Amherst, Halifax) and Prince Edward Island (Charlottetown). Canada and the States are just as amazing as China although the former are relatively young in history. To tell the truth, I prefer listening to the more heavily accented British English (just like Parisian French or northern Mandarin) than Canadian, American or Australian English. I guess it's more original. American Caucasians are seldom purely German or purely French from my experience of interacting with them. They always have a mix in say one fourth French, one sixteenth Polish, half German, etc., lol. Caucasians in Asian countries are considered just as exotic as Asians in white countries like the States and Canada. Just as Asians often seek to marry Caucasians to pride themselves in, I was told by many Americans that Caucasians often find marrying Asians very cool. To be sure, their offspring often get the best features from both parents inheriting beautiful facial features from the Caucasian parent (beautiful eyes, tall nose) and silky skin from the Asian parent. Many Miss Hong Kong winners (高丽虹，李嘉欣，郭倩妮）or movie stars like Russell Wong and his brother, are Caucasian and Asian mix offspring. Btw, Jews 犹太人and oriental people are all descendants of Shem, one of Noah's three sons (Shem, Ham, Japheth), that survived the Flood, and thus are all semitic. Not to spread any religion here, but we Chinese have worshiped the same God 上帝 or 天 as the God of the Bible (of Jews and Christians) for almost 2000 years before the advent of Confucianism, Buddhism and Daoism 儒释道 which came right in the middle of the 5000 years of Chinese history timeline (around 600 - 500 B.C.). So it's only natural to worship 上帝 that the ancient Chinese like 黄帝 Yellow Emperor or 炎帝 Emperor Yan or Laozi or Confucius have worshiped than to believe in Buddhism (from India) or Confucianism (Confucius was just a person, not God), although it might surprise you that the Dao 道 in Daoism is actually Jesus Christ Himself as Laozi 老子 was prophesying the coming of the Dao (the Way as in 道路, the Principle or Word as in 道理，or to speak as in 说道, with all three meanings pointing to the character of Jesus Christ) in Dao De Jing 道德经。That's a whole rabbit to chase which I will elaborate on more if you are interested in. So yeah, from the standpoint of genetics (Punnett Square, dominant and recessive genes, alleles, etc.), I am sure Olivia is going to be another Miss Hong Kong or Miss Chinese International winner, aka, exceptional beauty! God bless! =)
@laowhy86 what was that experiment you mention (about the Brits and their attitude towards the success of others)? It sounds very interesting and would perhaps help me solve a few cultural puzzles ;)
We don't chide people for being rich in the UK. Here it's considered very rude to ask how much money somebody has or how successful somebody is. You can often tell by the way people behave and look what kind of upbringing they had. We don't hate people for having more than us, we just don't talk about those kinds of things. A rich person will often have a good upbringing, therefore they would generally be quite polite and wouldn't flaunt of show off their wealth.
C-milk, can you put here please what that plant's name is in that alcohol - the one that the shopkeeper is in that golden drink you had and found only in Guangdong - that's supposed to be good for night sweats, skin, etc etc? Tks.
Biy, you sure know different English people from me! The English I know do nothing BUT brag, and it's never about what they do in life, it's about the school they went to , the level they attained at that school etc. All they talk about is the class system i. their country, that is, where they fit inside of it...
Nice video, thank you. I appreciate the general insight on how that aspect of Chinese culture functions. Not having ANY intelligence or charisma, I will probably fit in well.
Omg it's silly but I'm happy my question and my stupid name made it in! It's a shitty pun on UA-camr.. A UA-camr who is a noob. Though I haven't made videos yet. I'm going to bring all the goddamn alcohol next time in China. That's freedom with Chinese characteristics son.
Stereotypes are sometimes actually true, we Dutch wear wooden clogs, because the invention of shoe's has still to this present day evaded us and yes we all live in windmills, can get a bit drafty though, we eat nothing but cheese so, don't stand next to one off us in an elevator (i'm serious, don't!) , we all have a Danish sounding accent although we are blissfully unaware of this ourselves so, stop reminding us, and our woman all have braided hair and yes we know we are freakishly tall, it's been mentioned one's or twice before! Best thing is not to take yourself to serious, the person profiling you is already doing that in some way or another!Good video C-Milk, again 👍😆 dude!
In my experience Chinese people know next to nothing about Holland though. At best, they know about tulips or cheese being big here. That's OK, because Americans I met knew just as little ;) though they tend to mention 'legal whores and weed'
youn00ber Ahh, the beauty that is the Kingdom i live in, i'm so blessed, it seems i can get stoned and layed at the same time and all for the price of some lousy Euro's (that are worth more then the dollar), what did i do to deserve sutch bliss,....ehhh,....must have been something in a past live, can't for the life of me think I did anything to deserve this 😆 , but i'm definitely reaping the fruits of it, thank's for reminding me dude👍😆 you just made my day!
laowhy86 Don't thank me thank se superior Germanic gene's ja,...ooh oops, were did that come from, let myself go there 😉!Just kidding dude, no problem on the cheese, will save you some, we seem to have alot of it😲.
13:28 I guess people in china didn't learn to use punnet squares to figure out possible traits. that's pretty much all I remember doing in 6th grade, all those dihybrid cross worksheets were annoying, I guess I should appreciate them now
"open" kai fang could mean "open minded", "tmi, pls stay away from me", or "you have 0 shame in the chinese standard" in a joking manner. It depends, but you absolutely did something that they considered slightly disturbing.
What drives me crazy is 1. Foreigners don’t know how to use Chopsticks! 2. Foreigners can’t eat spicy. Ha! I’ll still be chowing down when the most hardcore Hunan or Sichuan guy is sweating buckets!
true. my parents were born and raised in the east and perhaps that is why they strongly believe in collectivism, as opposed to individualism. thus, they are so different than me in terms of that.
你们在那一个中国的城市？I'm leaving for Shanghai next Tuesday, I've got two weeks to explore, in and outside Shanghai. 我学中文学了四个月了。Of course I want to meet women but I'm looking at working and possibly living in China. I'm landing in Shanghai but I would like to look at a number of Chinese cities
I live in the US right now and Americans confuse Chinese, Japanese and Korean all the time. Americans assume every east Asian is Chinese. Remember the "this is the library" guy who shut down the protesters? All American friends of mine assumed he was Chinese, but to me his accent and look were definitely Korean. You see it's the same! Some countries you know well and some you just don't. The culture is too different.
I think to lump Brits as a equalizing (not even sure if using the 'tall poppy' analogy was in it's correct context here!) society shows a somewhat naivety, In fact, far from it, the British culture is based on the class structure FAR MORE than American society. We have aristocracy, upper middle class, lower middle class and the working class each has delineations greater than what I witnessed when I visited the USA. Even the American military has a far more relaxed hierarchy than the British Army where that, even to this day a lot of career 'Higher' Officers do originate from family's with double-barreled names, Fox hunting (pre ban days) Polo tournaments, toasting the Queen when wearing silly best dress at numerous functions. In fact if your receive a commission in the forces, the first thing they teach you is how to be a Gentleman! (WTF? I hate all that class snobbery, !) I do not hate or try to 'cut down' successful people, In fact the way that Brits are discussed here is an almost communist view, Britain may be a more socialistic country ( NOT CLASS, there;s a difference) but that means Free health care for all, even the aristocracy is entitled to it should they choose! But that is not chopping all to same level? My younger brother married an American and now lives in California, I have been to America on several occasions, How many times have the people giving their opinions (C Milk and friend) even visited the UK? Britain may be a small country, able to fit entirely into some US states but is comprised of 4 nations within a nation, i.e. England (Be surprised how many Americans even to this day call British , English! or they say 'In England' when referring to Britain) so there is England, Scotland, Ireland (Northern Ireland) and Wales, There are big differences even between these small countries and you dont often hear an american describe himself as a 'Texan' or a Mississippian! But Often a 'Brit' will say he/she are 'Welsh, or 'I'm Scottish etc we have a far more varied culture and to say that we do not congratulate or even aspire to successful entrepreneurial values is naive. If you live in the UK as they have lived in China, then perhaps a more accurate picture of a national could be arrived at than merely one gained from meeting the Odd Brit living in china. It was a bit irritating to see such ignorant comments made with no actual experience of that culture, i.e. Living in the UK! I would never make a comment about Chinese culture above that of 'C -Milk' as he indeed, lives there (even though I was born and raised as a Kid In Hong Kong to a Welsh mother and an English father) I appreciate that Cantonese colonial Hong Kong of the 60's is nothing like mainland China, and to say what was said about 'British people was basically incorrect, in fact, I would go so far as to say that our values are maybe 'NOT' the same American's as was suggested here. I like the series and find them very informative but this was a bit naive and could be seen as almost inflammatory by some! having said that, I wish these lads well and hope that it all works out good for them living in such a culture as Mainland China!
I come from mainland China and currently living in US. Sometimes people just ask me "So you are from China? Beijing or Shanghai?" Well, what can I say? A small town (with millions of people) you have never heard of?
From an outsider's perspective i.e. from outside the US and Britain or another English-speaking country, American and British culture would be very similar since Britain spawned the US and British culture was the dominant culture which caused immigrants from other European countries to conform to it.
Chinese can't tell the difference between German, American or Russian and lump them all as whites. But to be fair how many Americans can tell the difference between Korean, Japanese or Chinese?
bird718 C-Milk is German. He is also American. Is there an issue?
I don't think the idea is to be able to differentiate people based on their appearance - I doubt I'd be able to pick out between, say, Danes, Dutch and Germans, but to appreciate that there are differences between all these different people, instead of lumping them all into one group.
I dunno about Americans but Britain does have a more internationalised culture than China.
Bird718 then what was the point of "c-milk also can't tell the difference between a religion and a nationality"?
Haannibal777 I can and I'm white
ok, so I am binge watching videos of You and Prozzie. I fixed myself a drink, there are some snacks here and this is my friday night...
TheMarzla enjoy!
Prozzie should do a video about his moving to China story!
One of the most informative videos on China I have seen during my 6 months of surfing the same! That includes u guys,and churchill et al.
I am bilingual. The response from the Chinese waiter laowhy didn't translate is "I haven't seen Jews before but based on what we learned from the book. Jews are not the smartest, probably same level as us but (I think) they are good business people and know how to make money."
This obviously contradicts with the stereotype discussed here.
Nice translation, one mistake was that Waiter did not say Jews are same level as Chinese though
Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 850 individuals, of whom at least 22% were Jewish or people of Jewish descent, although Jews comprise less than 0.2% of the world's population (or 1 in every 500 people). Meaning, Jews are clearly not just smart about making money. (By the way, Chinese people make up 20% of the world's population--or 1 in every 5 people--and have won about 1% of the Nobel Prizes). How 'bout them apples, David Chen?
Don't forget our handsome big noses
The China's science and technology were not advanced as western countries. China is still a developing country. However, I would say the Chinese students have a better attitude toward studying.
***** Your post is pure anti-Semitic garbage that appeals to the uneducated, the same people who believe outlandish conspiracy theories. 6 million Jews were murdered---it is a simple fact documented and verified by thousands of credible sources, including the most respected academies and institutions of the world. Your screen name says everything. Go back to your hole.
Dude, I came across your channel by accident and I'm loving the hell out of it, very informative, like im actually learning stuff that happens there and not the "generalizations"，laughing at the jokes you guys make "is my nose big orsomething" hahaha and the interaction between you two is amazing. I subscribed. 你们真棒。
Much better on the intro mate!
Winston I wish you’d post some of your videos in South Africa before you came to China because I don’t hear your South African accent. If anything I think being in China changed it. I noticed c-milk for example using Canadian phrases and other phrases from other English speaking counties, “Eh”
ItsameAlex
An IQ of 112 is nothing to Brag about.
I'll keep saying it every video, I love these types of videos :)
The guy smiling happily on the cover of the wine is 大兵， a famous cross talk comedian and tv host in China, espcially in Hunan Province.
1:02 - 1:18
*inspired* seriously amazing, the silence makes it even more incredible
u guys are great, and trippy XD
HOW DID MORE PEOPLE NOT MENTION THE TECHNIQUE U USED? ? ?
THANK YOU!!! for caring a bit about your art & for filming & editing so well, i can tell u love what you're doing!
& thanks for getting drunk & being random as fuck with Prozzie in these videos hahaha... I'm glad u created these, it makes me laugh, & learn somewhat obscure things about a different culture! :D it's the best
So sad thisss series was a little short lived, but i get that it's hard when you're tryin to expand your audience & see ur family too :P
Good luck with all LaoWhy team
Counterfeit Franco is fucking hot, I have no shame
+Stephanie Brown i'd do him too
ROFL
I'm a Texan who never traveled to Asia yet, but a Chinese lady here thought I was from England.
That video made me hungry. That food looked awesome.
Enjoyed the video. Am working my way through some of your older postings. Prozzie loves to be silly.
Haha C-Milk when i see you in these videos i keep thinking that Winston is a too serious of a guy to match your personality where you keep roasting/getting roasted by counterfeit Franco :p Great topic, great banter, nice video lads ^_^
+Yolo Swaggins thanks Yolo! That's just how our personal channels work. Winston and I are very close friends, it is just that our style of making videos together is about exploration and topical motorcycle related stuff. The way I have always done my videos on my channel is a bit more loose and relaxed.
Laowhy86, I've been watching your videos, and most of what you talk about can directly relate to here in Korea as well.
Dudes! This is a pretty good explanation about things with Chinese culture from a Westerners point of view. I was with a friend in Zhongshan that looked Asian but didn't speak any Asian language since he was raised in Europe and noticed he had a totally different experience from local Chinese as well as foreigners! You should do a video on that as well! The Chinese couldn't understand why he never responded to them and when I told them he was Meiguo, that stunned look and silence it drew from the Chinese people was total disbelief. At the same time when he speaks with expats there it's a double take for them.
Great chemistry, fun to watch and listen. Great job.
You guys really class up a place. Im specifically referring to the last few seconds of the video. Overall, it was good info. Thanks!
That feast looked AWESOME.
Mister WarBeast someone focussing on the important things here
If I understood the laoban around 13:00, he said " no I don't consider them intelligent but they're crafty (for lack of a better term) and good at making money"?
Your video is supposed to be about foreigner stereotypes,but for the first half of your video is just chilling with your mate.
Ah these old videos...you guys were so good...so interesting
Watching your videos has become a daily thing.
Did the actually use the world "chide"? I dont think it means what he thinks it means...I thought chide means "scold or rebuke"
***** hm Im British and I have heard my Dad mention it. But I dont think modern British culture is like that.
Britain is traditionally a socialist county, so it was all about knocking down the nail that sticks out (i.e. the successful person). Now it's very different and is even shown in recent politics with the downfall of the Labour party.
The chiding thing is that you don't talk too much about your success or you may come across as egotistical. Americans tend to sell themselves more, so can come off in more conservative countries as being self-absorbed or big headed.
Prozzie has a cool looking patch on the left side of his jacket
serious? tom cruise top gun days are so so over.
The Jacket patch is from Alert, Nunavut, Canada on the northern tip of Ellesmere Island is the northernmost inhabited community on earth. I am guessing it might be his dads as the date said 1980, I spent a month there very remote and interesting.
Bruce MacAulay that's even worst than Top Gun. It's one thing to buy a cheesy department store knockoff. It's even worst transforming yourself into a POSER lol Reminds me of "lost valor." I can see the argument about being a treasured family belonging but taking it overseas is over the top.....
32 year veteran I have no problem with him wearing the jacket.
ya I google'd around after making the comment and found it but thanks
When I was visiting China with my Chinese mom people stared at me. I'm Chinese German and people thought I was a tall Mongolian. It was actually kinda funny.
开方 kaifang or what gets translated as "open“ usually refers to sexuality.
I recognize the Alert jacket! I was there for my first trip Jan-Jul '79. Those things are rare these days.
Great video guys -- I used to live in Colombia and know the ex-pat drill -- or at least I think I do.
I'm heading to China again and pleased to have another opportunity to ride the ride. After viewing some ex-pat videos warning against a recent rise in anti-foreign sentiment (in China), I smiled to myself knowing my country wrote the book on fearing and mistreating strangers. China has a long way to go before they achieve such heights of xenophobia.
A smile opens a world of doors -- yes, one must practice common sense, but being a dick is never good practice or form. The human community can be pretty grand if you let it out in the open air. You gents seem to be doing just fine with a generous portion of humor!
there's no way I can have someone sit that close to me and be that much in my face while I'm eating
The Canadian system is much more similar to the British system, than to the US. Particularly the way the way the government and society operates,....and that would make sense given Canada is still a commonwealth country based on British law.
I'm from Antarctica. So chill. jk, I'm from Long Island NY, which is way different than anyone else even from NY.
It's really no different anywhere. It's just the severity of the stereotype from people all over the world. I was born in a big city in Texas, but overseas, they think we are all cowboys. I haven't been to China yet, but Japan and the Philippines also had common misconceptions of foreigners in general. I'm sure it's common all over the globe.
Thanks for the videos, I'm learning a lot about China from you and others I subscribe to. I will go there shortly for a visit and I would like to learn some Mandarin first. These videos help us get acquainted with a different culture before we actually get there.
Hi Prozzie. I'm also from Ottawa. How did you end up in China ? I ended up in Russia but quite close to northern China. I was in Novosibirsk, Siberia. If you look on the map you'll see where on the middle part of China, the border has a north pointing peak and straight up from it is Novosibirsk. Love your views on China. Hope you can keep it up.
I translate what the owner said:
"jews are not necessary the cleverest, but I was told that they are good money makers, good business persons"
As always, stay Prozzitive! :D
What kind of car does prozzie have that can drive from Ottawa to NY in 3 hours? That's some cannonball run shit right there!
The guy in leather jacket is super hot haha
In Canada, milk comes in bags!
In China, Secret Agent C-Milk puts Canadians in Bodybags if they stop smiling
Rasputin Varez funny joke but no, milk does not come in bags in Canada
It does come in bags, depending on the size of the packaging.
I am moving to Beijing next month. I am from NYC, am Jewish and blonde - guess I'm set, lol!
the chinese gased her, with the pollution.
I am a new subscriber that will be moving to Chengdu next year to teach English. Great info to have. I have lived in 8 different countries. I think you have to realize that as a rule (although there are exceptions) most of the Chinese who stereotype have a small world view. I used to have one when I grew up in Louisiana but thanks to the USAF and traveling I definitely view things different now.
Love the discourse going on round the servile local hand!!!
I am Chinese, I get same type of stereotype in UK as well. It is hard for Western ppl to identify Asians as they can not identify whether an Asian is from China Japan or Korea. It is the same for Asians, for example I can recognise the difference between an American and a Russian, but I can not see the difference between A Scandinavian person and a British person or a German unless they speak their own language infront of me. BTW, China is a huge country, just like the US and CANADA, northern Chinese actually look like a different race with the southerners, you will realize this when you live in China for a Long time...
Many Chinese know much less about Canada than the US, but they generally have extremely positive stereotypes of the Canadians compared to those of the Americans.
Due to the Hollywood movies, the most commonly believed stereotypes of Americans by most Chinese especially by the less educated Chinese or the very local Chinese who cannot speak English and never have a chance to travel is that USA always remind them of MONEY, SEX, GUNS and WARS. And it's not just the Chinese people's stereotypes of America, but also the stereotypes of the Americans in many other countries.
I bought a cup of coffee in the airport in Guangzhou, and after I worked out the money conversion I found out that it had cost me 13 dollars. An American laughed and told me "The Chinese are the Jews of the Orient."
Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed it..
Most of the things you talked about are so true! Good job guys~
Why don't you put a link for Prozzy's channel in the show notes? Professional & friendly courtesy yeah. I thought you were saying Frozzy and it took forever to find him. Anyway, best to you all.
"Jews of the Orient"
Canadians have a "tall tree" syndrome: the mindset that resents the success of others and shares with the Aussies, Kiwis & Brits in our use of self deprecating humour, too.
The guys who started Vice had to leave Montreal and head to NYC mostly because of that exact reason.
C-Milk, so you are a Jewish German American?
Prozzie is Canadian French, English, or Jewish?
C-Milk - German American
Prozzie - French Canadian/Irish
that dude with the leather jacket looks like Val Kilmer and James Franco had a child..
Matt do you speak German?
CMilk, I think open means in a good way when Chinese people say it, they try to say some good thing about you but actually knowing nothing about you or where you from. I think open originated from 1987 where Deng XiaoPing opened up the market, so open is a positive but not specific means.
It's like when in the west we automatically assume that everybody is Chinese!
Some Guy Not saying I think this... but if you live anywhere in the West, you do have to acknowledge that people do think this! -_- #!
If in your city, people can actually tell the difference and aren't ignorant about it, Well, you live in a city where variety in Asians is abundant! And living in a city where its citizens aren't particularly well educated about Asians doesn't mean they are stupid, they are just ignorant about that topic.. (Maybe they don't give a shit about Asians)
True
The Logical Good so statistically it's logical to assume that a foreigner might happen to be a U.S citizen! There's 300M+ in existence!
Except that most people I've known don't actually do that.
Only time I assume someone Asian is Chinese is when they are travelling with big group and are really loud.
happy bday bro,wish you all the best! awesome vid.just gotta love that dude's hand sticking through whole video :D ,jk +1
+Luka Meassu lol thanks man!
A special appearance by an honorary member of the Addams family.
I'm Canadian and have studied in France. Even well educated French people don't really draw any cultural differences between Canadian and Americans. Until I lived in France i never knew I would simply be identified as an anglo saxon as opposed to continental european culture. Then again until I lived in France I didn't know the great cultural difference found in different french regions which is true of most european countries. Same is true of most countries but even the larger european countries are pretty small.
I love Prozzie. He seems like the nicest dude.
the lettuce leaf, an uncooked vegetable, quite possibly rinsed in tap water, might be a big mistake ingesting
I love Canada and visited the major cities in Quebec (Quebec City, Montreal, Trois Rivieres), Ontario (Ottawa, Toronto, Niagara Falls) , New Brunswick (St. John, Moncton, Fredericton), Nova Scotia (Truro, Amherst, Halifax) and Prince Edward Island (Charlottetown). Canada and the States are just as amazing as China although the former are relatively young in history. To tell the truth, I prefer listening to the more heavily accented British English (just like Parisian French or northern Mandarin) than Canadian, American or Australian English. I guess it's more original. American Caucasians are seldom purely German or purely French from my experience of interacting with them. They always have a mix in say one fourth French, one sixteenth Polish, half German, etc., lol.
Caucasians in Asian countries are considered just as exotic as Asians in white countries like the States and Canada. Just as Asians often seek to marry Caucasians to pride themselves in, I was told by many Americans that Caucasians often find marrying Asians very cool. To be sure, their offspring often get the best features from both parents inheriting beautiful facial features from the Caucasian parent (beautiful eyes, tall nose) and silky skin from the Asian parent. Many Miss Hong Kong winners (高丽虹，李嘉欣，郭倩妮）or movie stars like Russell Wong and his brother, are Caucasian and Asian mix offspring.
Btw, Jews 犹太人and oriental people are all descendants of Shem, one of Noah's three sons (Shem, Ham, Japheth), that survived the Flood, and thus are all semitic. Not to spread any religion here, but we Chinese have worshiped the same God 上帝 or 天 as the God of the Bible (of Jews and Christians) for almost 2000 years before the advent of Confucianism, Buddhism and Daoism 儒释道 which came right in the middle of the 5000 years of Chinese history timeline (around 600 - 500 B.C.). So it's only natural to worship 上帝 that the ancient Chinese like 黄帝 Yellow Emperor or 炎帝 Emperor Yan or Laozi or Confucius have worshiped than to believe in Buddhism (from India) or Confucianism (Confucius was just a person, not God), although it might surprise you that the Dao 道 in Daoism is actually Jesus Christ Himself as Laozi 老子 was prophesying the coming of the Dao (the Way as in 道路, the Principle or Word as in 道理，or to speak as in 说道, with all three meanings pointing to the character of Jesus Christ) in Dao De Jing 道德经。That's a whole rabbit to chase which I will elaborate on more if you are interested in.
So yeah, from the standpoint of genetics (Punnett Square, dominant and recessive genes, alleles, etc.), I am sure Olivia is going to be another Miss Hong Kong or Miss Chinese International winner, aka, exceptional beauty! God bless! =)
British are so different. They are a kind of too polite and at the same time so ironic.
British people are just honest, they won't generally kiss up to you like Americans plus the British are brought up on manners.
americans are definitely friendlier
Being ironic and being too polite is kind of the opposite of honest
So true tho haha
"too polite and at the same time so ironic" two unrelated stereotypes put together
@laowhy86 what was that experiment you mention (about the Brits and their attitude towards the success of others)? It sounds very interesting and would perhaps help me solve a few cultural puzzles ;)
Great video! Moving to China next year and this is great prep! Why are you bleeping the shits and fucks though? Either way, great channel - I subbed.
+Thomas Shipley comedic effect ;)
I'm Native American, I wonder how they perceive us?
Your Chinese is really good. Keep it up!
We don't chide people for being rich in the UK. Here it's considered very rude to ask how much money somebody has or how successful somebody is. You can often tell by the way people behave and look what kind of upbringing they had. We don't hate people for having more than us, we just don't talk about those kinds of things. A rich person will often have a good upbringing, therefore they would generally be quite polite and wouldn't flaunt of show off their wealth.
Great discussion, my friends
C-milk, can you put here please what that plant's name is in that alcohol - the one that the shopkeeper is in that golden drink you had and found only in Guangdong - that's supposed to be good for night sweats, skin, etc etc? Tks.
Good stuff. Subbed.
Biy, you sure know different English people from me! The English I know do nothing BUT brag, and it's never about what they do in life, it's about the school they went to , the level they attained at that school etc. All they talk about is the class system i. their country, that is, where they fit inside of it...
Nice video, thank you. I appreciate the general insight on how that aspect of Chinese culture functions. Not having ANY intelligence or charisma, I will probably fit in well.
good shit. I liked it.
Watching you guys eat made me went to grab that baijiu that's been sitting idle for a while. LOL.
Watching this comment made me do the same. That's right fokes, I don't read comments, I just watch em'
LOL, I thought you drink baijiu all the time
I should probably go to a support group about it.
Prozzie probably shouldn't be drunk at 2:17 in the afternoon though. But you're in China so... I'm pretty jealous.
Cecilia Cai
Livin the dream.
Omg it's silly but I'm happy my question and my stupid name made it in! It's a shitty pun on UA-camr.. A UA-camr who is a noob. Though I haven't made videos yet.
I'm going to bring all the goddamn alcohol next time in China. That's freedom with Chinese characteristics son.
+youn00ber Your name isn't stupid! We were drunk and it was fun to say! :)
+laowhy86 thanks! Appreciate ya!
Stereotypes are sometimes actually true, we Dutch wear wooden clogs, because the invention of shoe's has still to this present day evaded us and yes we all live in windmills, can get a bit drafty though, we eat nothing but cheese so, don't stand next to one off us in an elevator (i'm serious, don't!) , we all have a Danish sounding accent although we are blissfully unaware of this ourselves so, stop reminding us, and our woman all have braided hair and yes we know we are freakishly tall, it's been mentioned one's or twice before!
Best thing is not to take yourself to serious, the person profiling you is already doing that in some way or another!Good video C-Milk, again 👍😆 dude!
In my experience Chinese people know next to nothing about Holland though. At best, they know about tulips or cheese being big here. That's OK, because Americans I met knew just as little ;) though they tend to mention 'legal whores and weed'
youn00ber Ahh, the beauty that is the Kingdom i live in, i'm so blessed, it seems i can get stoned and layed at the same time and all for the price of some lousy Euro's (that are worth more then the dollar), what did i do to deserve sutch bliss,....ehhh,....must have been something in a past live, can't for the life of me think I did anything to deserve this 😆 , but i'm definitely reaping the fruits of it, thank's for reminding me dude👍😆 you just made my day!
+ThatDutchguy Thanks man! Save me some cheese!
laowhy86 Don't thank me thank se superior Germanic gene's ja,...ooh oops, were did that come from, let myself go there 😉!Just kidding dude, no problem on the cheese, will save you some, we seem to have alot of it😲.
Imagine if that dude cooking your food could understand English xD
+Toast lol guess what? He could. But not good enough to pick up a lot of what we said.
13:28 I guess people in china didn't learn to use punnet squares to figure out possible traits. that's pretty much all I remember doing in 6th grade, all those dihybrid cross worksheets were annoying, I guess I should appreciate them now
Nice video ! U guys make me hungry !
where are you from in NY Matt? I live near Buffalo and I'm coming to China in December, love it there!
May the luck of the Irish smile upon you prozzie!!!
Have to say, you guys have really big stomaches. How many dishes did you order? lol
"open" kai fang could mean "open minded", "tmi, pls stay away from me", or "you have 0 shame in the chinese standard" in a joking manner. It depends, but you absolutely did something that they considered slightly disturbing.
"Golden Ripper", so, of I search on this and buy it online I will get the stuff that stops you from sweating at night??
I get ZERO hits when I search on this...
"It made my balls hurt" lol
I would agree that russians would mingle better with chinese than westerners. Russians are asiatic in a lot of cultural aspects.
What drives me crazy is 1. Foreigners don’t know how to use Chopsticks! 2. Foreigners can’t eat spicy. Ha! I’ll still be chowing down when the most hardcore Hunan or Sichuan guy is sweating buckets!
true. my parents were born and raised in the east and perhaps that is why they strongly believe in collectivism, as opposed to individualism. thus, they are so different than me in terms of that.
你们在那一个中国的城市？I'm leaving for Shanghai next Tuesday, I've got two weeks to explore, in and outside Shanghai. 我学中文学了四个月了。Of course I want to meet women but I'm looking at working and possibly living in China.
I'm landing in Shanghai but I would like to look at a number of Chinese cities
British people are different? I'm hurt. I demand a full on Canadian apology for this transgression.
+gnrocks91 lmao that is not a bad thing. we love British people. Besides, we all know Canadian apologies are meaningless.
laowhy86 I'm sorry, I don't get it? ;)
Hey what's that thing with white LED attached to your jacket zipper?
I live in the US right now and Americans confuse Chinese, Japanese and Korean all the time. Americans assume every east Asian is Chinese. Remember the "this is the library" guy who shut down the protesters? All American friends of mine assumed he was Chinese, but to me his accent and look were definitely Korean. You see it's the same! Some countries you know well and some you just don't. The culture is too different.
What province is Prozzie from?
Ontario?
+j6663000 Ottawa, Ontario
I'm hungry now.
I think to lump Brits as a equalizing (not even sure if using the 'tall poppy' analogy was in it's correct context here!) society shows a somewhat naivety, In fact, far from it, the British culture is based on the class structure FAR MORE than American society. We have aristocracy, upper middle class, lower middle class and the working class each has delineations greater than what I witnessed when I visited the USA. Even the American military has a far more relaxed hierarchy than the British Army where that, even to this day a lot of career 'Higher' Officers do originate from family's with double-barreled names, Fox hunting (pre ban days) Polo tournaments, toasting the Queen when wearing silly best dress at numerous functions. In fact if your receive a commission in the forces, the first thing they teach you is how to be a Gentleman! (WTF? I hate all that class snobbery, !) I do not hate or try to 'cut down' successful people, In fact the way that Brits are discussed here is an almost communist view, Britain may be a more socialistic country ( NOT CLASS, there;s a difference) but that means Free health care for all, even the aristocracy is entitled to it should they choose! But that is not chopping all to same level? My younger brother married an American and now lives in California, I have been to America on several occasions, How many times have the people giving their opinions (C Milk and friend) even visited the UK? Britain may be a small country, able to fit entirely into some US states but is comprised of 4 nations within a nation, i.e. England (Be surprised how many Americans even to this day call British , English! or they say 'In England' when referring to Britain) so there is England, Scotland, Ireland (Northern Ireland) and Wales, There are big differences even between these small countries and you dont often hear an american describe himself as a 'Texan' or a Mississippian! But Often a 'Brit' will say he/she are 'Welsh, or 'I'm Scottish etc we have a far more varied culture and to say that we do not congratulate or even aspire to successful entrepreneurial values is naive. If you live in the UK as they have lived in China, then perhaps a more accurate picture of a national could be arrived at than merely one gained from meeting the Odd Brit living in china. It was a bit irritating to see such ignorant comments made with no actual experience of that culture, i.e. Living in the UK! I would never make a comment about Chinese culture above that of 'C -Milk' as he indeed, lives there (even though I was born and raised as a Kid In Hong Kong to a Welsh mother and an English father) I appreciate that Cantonese colonial Hong Kong of the 60's is nothing like mainland China, and to say what was said about 'British people was basically incorrect, in fact, I would go so far as to say that our values are maybe 'NOT' the same American's as was suggested here.
I like the series and find them very informative but this was a bit naive and could be seen as almost inflammatory by some! having said that, I wish these lads well and hope that it all works out good for them living in such a culture as Mainland China!
I come from mainland China and currently living in US. Sometimes people just ask me "So
you are from China? Beijing or Shanghai?" Well, what can I say? A small town (with millions of people) you have never heard of?
Haha, same here.
I live in Boston and it takes me more than 3 hours to drive to New York. I doubt you can drive to New York from Ottawa in 3 hours!
You 2 guys are good looking 'Lao wai' and must be popular at shenzhen. Keep it up for new videos .
+Buer Jiang aww thx
Love your channel. Keep the videos coming.
From an outsider's perspective i.e. from outside the US and Britain or another English-speaking country, American and British culture would be very similar since Britain spawned the US and British culture was the dominant culture which caused immigrants from other European countries to conform to it.
Very interesting conversation.