just to keep the record streigth, BDO + gen were the only 2 alliances that had access last season to final zone through a pass, NF57 + bossy, ROE and their allies were both locked in Z1. so realistically it would have been a 3 vs 1 for BDO ( EIS + EIL, NA and ANCS + which ever allies they had in their regions) so realistically it would have been a 400 vs a 800 - 1000 player fight. BDO was constantly attacked from 3 different locations. it is not even remotely the same situation as this, where EVERY alliance has access to final zone, BDO was constantly hammered from 3 directions, it was an impossible situation to defend. once it was a 2vs 1, then BDO held their ground, until NA and EIS gave up on trying to take over Z2 as BDO could handle a 2 vs 1 in DEFENSE, but no way to handle a 3 vs 1
Very different story when allies can't get into a zone was not the case in dragonfall all alliances could access the dragon zone to build on where were NA's towers? I saw none
I understand why you guys had to skip it. However, it would have been nice if you guys had built just a few Towers then backed out. Kind of like what LTS did this season
@@HulksdenGamingwhy? Lol BDO continued to fight regardless. Not to mention we just came from a season where we did exactly that! Lol we built into final zone against echo and NA even with our allies still building and burning to take pass. Completely different situations. One alliance chose not to fight and the other alliance chose to continue fighting where they were and help their allies. There's a reason why BDO's allies all praised bdo at the end and NA's allies trash talk them.
@@HulksdenGaming NA was fast building from Z4, ANCS was knocking on our left from NA's zone 3...EIS was knocking on our right ( our zone 3 ) ...while also building from dragon zone, wouldnt have made any difference. we tried to defend our territory. however there is no way we could have defended it, BDO used 100+ TP scrolls last season ... just to put it into perspective how many times we jumped to different battlefronts
All the other nonsense doesn't matter. What matters is your allies think you guys are shit, and BD-O's allies don't think they are from last season. Bunch of embarrassing rationalizing. Last season was a 11B difference and this was a 4B difference yet always claimed last season was fair match making but this season was clear difference??? crazy
Lol hulksden i couldnt imagine that you were so a trash person saying SSG failed miserably to oush you when all you do was hiding behind bastions playing defensive It is so trash from you to not salute the spirit of SSG and to not accept they dominated you SSG dominated LTS which is more might and more players so your excuse about player number is trash you so trashminded im surprisd leqrn to accept defeat You were trashing on BDO at the beginning of the season and you didnt even showed up to assume your insult SSG foight LTS even if they were weakened by a long fight vs you and they won but you cowards who ran from bdo who didnt manage to destroy a single tower from a younger kingdom keep complaining trashminded boy
And we skipped final zone because it was a 3v1....let me repeat it would have been a 3v1 with no help because our allies was locked out. Please stop it. There is no comparison. You guys didn't even try even though everyone has access to the final zone. You guys straight ditched ur allies. And no 40 players doesn't count. You guys didn't build a single flag.
3v1? so NF57/BOSY +GEN/BDO vs ANCS +EIS+ NA ? HOW CAN THAT A 3v1? that is 4v3 , its because your stupid leader chooses to play with everyone and get involved in all the fights which exhaust all teleport and battle ,that is the reason why you didnt fight , you guys think that you are high and mighty which lead into bat results due to your decision to get involve in every gight, and NA and BDO doesnt have equal power in the first place during that season
Great video, and I agree that skipping the final zone will be the alliance reputation. However, you can skip the final zone if your allies are depleted or your alliance fought non-stop and was being invaded on different fronts. If you skip the final zone though and your alliance or your ally is not depleted and mostly fresh, then it should not be an excuse to skip the final zone because keeping your ally and your alliance moral up shows you care to help your ally even though the odds are against you. It keeps your players engaged and does not get bored. You mentioned that your players' morale is down. I think not fighting is one of the factors. Keeping your players engaged no matter what the situation will ultimately help you retain the good fighters in your alliance. Even though your alliance lost, at least every player gave their all until the last troops they had. That's what makes a good allaince to keep the players morale up and engaged. The alliance that will be on top is the one that has players that are engaged and fight no matter what the odds because it's fun to pvp and practice your strategy in the field. Not fighting will hinder your ability to develop a good strategy in the future. Does your ally know that you guys are skipping the final zone? With the alliances who skip from previous seasons that you mention. Did they skip because their ally and their alliance depleted because they fought non-stop in differnt zone? If so, then I think it's good to skip the final zone. If not fighting and they are not depleted then it's shame to skip final zone.
exactly. Look at NTS, as an example, they fought uphil battles all the time, but their spirit and their dedication of fighting, got them constantly new recruit, and look at them now, 19B power ...close to 20B... and 2 season ago they were 11B power... even tho they lost, they came out victorious in recruits, cuz they shown they are not afraid to fight, disciplin, good tactics and they grew and grew. beeing passive and just defend or dodge ...wont help with player morale, as ... idk how many ppl will want to join such an alliance that all they do is turtle => harms recruitmant => dead weight is more => more inactivity... and i'm not saying to shame or anything about NA, but just to raise awareness... being honest and providing a fighter's Point of view @hulksdengaming
the more passive communities become, the more dead the game becomes, naturally it will just die off. vs. if you have daily content, fight here fight there... keeps your players engadged => new people join as they see it is soo much fun => game also lives ...communities also live... and hate to say it, but if NA wont get their sh*t together and actually do something, it is going to become a wasteland. I enjoyed watching your content in the past, as u were pointing actual combat PoV for the videos you were posting for guides / builds... but lately none, and i do also think, that hurst you also as a content creator. I watch ur videos as they usually have something good in them to learn, a different point of view that sometimes stands out from the crowd ( i praised u here ), + it also gives publicity to NA to get fighters in. but as it is now... sry to say...but NA fell hard...i hope they can bounce back, I had MEGA respect to NK back in the days ...
I think your assessment of skipping the final zone was a crucial error on your leaderships part. Your allies were highly active and you could've had a great fight with your combined strength in the last zone. Your players would've been engaged and at the end of the day, we play the game to fight...not to farm. You can't compare skipping the zone in the way you did by leaving your allies hanging to BDO's prior season. BDO fought the entire time and then didn't enter the zone bc they're allies got locked out. They would've entered the final zone alone. lol How is that the same? Think about it without any bias. Nonetheless, it seems BDO still fought until the end although they were getting attacked from all sides.
I think it’s not that deep it’s a war game doesn’t matter you going to lose just show up and try your best, skipping will always result in your alliance looking bad
People in NA didn’t show up for the final zone fight because of the announcement that you guys weren’t fighting in the final zone. The truth is NA dodged BDO the entire season then betrayed their allies by abandoning them and leaving them fighting on their own for dragon even though everyone has access to the final zone. NA is going to stand for No Allies next season if they don’t end up disbanding 😂
Mostly celestials if you are in the league of order. However, if you plan on switching to other factions and still want to remain magic main, then you should probably train a lot of vestals
Bro stop lying NA started pushing SSG after z3 opened you werent able to beat SSG or destroy a single of their tower during z2 fight why you lying you started pushing after LTS started fight SSG lol lier
You don't realize I have the receipts of NA pushing 2 days before Z3 opened. I have video recordings of the Push and I'll probably upload them if I have to
@j0elembiid713 we pushed 2 days before Z3. Main plan was to Weaken ssg/imb/dbb that way our allies could have it easy in Z3. Ended up knocking off around 2b power. I recorded the push. They decided to give up because they eventually saw what we were trying to do.
Hi, I'm in season 1 playing with mages Liliya Velyn and I don't know if I should have the League of Order or the Guardians of the Spring, which faction would be best in my case?
NA has lost any respect it ever had with the dodging of 2 zones. Also, critiquing LTS on their z3 when you were merit trading and afk farming is a low blow. LTS never gave up fighting but ya gave up early. Your leadership needs a change after this seaspns decisions or find a new home.
NA next dead alliance XD whoever get allied with them in KVK matchup will have a low morale instant minus 1 in the allies XD get out NA players before its too late lmao
Thundelyn as the primary will give her more time to complete her 6s rage skill against enemies who dies quick. I think the amount of merits you get will depend on the amount of time it takes before the enemy dies
bdo basically skipped their necro because they deem it they cant defend it and they also skipped last zone previous kvk against NA/ancs/eis because they also think they cant win so why is bdo bitching and complaining now? like i swear they are never consistent and always have double standards it seems when they do it nobody can blame them -_-
Lol you idiot 😂😂😂 BDO fought until the last day of this previous season even if it was a 1v2 (NA and EIS the hold their Z2 I recognized theu didnt entered the z3 but who would risk a 1v3 ? The difference here is that NA dodged a 2v2 they leaved their ally alone in last zone idk how a normal person can act like this and start trashtalking bdo because they choosed to fight 1v2 than 1v3 this guy is crazy
Let me ask you this.... Why do you think at the end of the bdo season (last season) their allies praised them and thought it was a great kvk. However NA's allies trash talk them and say they're dying? Also, why do you think people are saying NAs recruitment after this season will be terrible but BDO had a great migration in after last season, to the point where bdo is the second strongest alliance in the game power wise behind Eds. Why do you think those things are true? Do you think they entire cod community just does not like NA? If so....why? Lol I would love to hear your answers on this.
just to keep the record streigth, BDO + gen were the only 2 alliances that had access last season to final zone through a pass, NF57 + bossy, ROE and their allies were both locked in Z1. so realistically it would have been a 3 vs 1 for BDO ( EIS + EIL, NA and ANCS + which ever allies they had in their regions) so realistically it would have been a 400 vs a 800 - 1000 player fight. BDO was constantly attacked from 3 different locations. it is not even remotely the same situation as this, where EVERY alliance has access to final zone, BDO was constantly hammered from 3 directions, it was an impossible situation to defend. once it was a 2vs 1, then BDO held their ground, until NA and EIS gave up on trying to take over Z2 as BDO could handle a 2 vs 1 in DEFENSE, but no way to handle a 3 vs 1
They skip bruh. Long story short
Very different story when allies can't get into a zone was not the case in dragonfall all alliances could access the dragon zone to build on where were NA's towers? I saw none
I understand why you guys had to skip it. However, it would have been nice if you guys had built just a few Towers then backed out. Kind of like what LTS did this season
@@HulksdenGamingwhy? Lol BDO continued to fight regardless. Not to mention we just came from a season where we did exactly that! Lol we built into final zone against echo and NA even with our allies still building and burning to take pass.
Completely different situations. One alliance chose not to fight and the other alliance chose to continue fighting where they were and help their allies. There's a reason why BDO's allies all praised bdo at the end and NA's allies trash talk them.
@@HulksdenGaming NA was fast building from Z4, ANCS was knocking on our left from NA's zone 3...EIS was knocking on our right ( our zone 3 ) ...while also building from dragon zone, wouldnt have made any difference. we tried to defend our territory. however there is no way we could have defended it, BDO used 100+ TP scrolls last season ... just to put it into perspective how many times we jumped to different battlefronts
Hulk..you guys skipped zone 3 and final zone, don't act like you guys wasn't dodging us.
All the other nonsense doesn't matter. What matters is your allies think you guys are shit, and BD-O's allies don't think they are from last season. Bunch of embarrassing rationalizing. Last season was a 11B difference and this was a 4B difference yet always claimed last season was fair match making but this season was clear difference??? crazy
This and also there were 4 alliances not just NA and he just talked about the NA lack of morale which their leadership caused by skipping Z3 fights!
Lol hulksden i couldnt imagine that you were so a trash person saying SSG failed miserably to oush you when all you do was hiding behind bastions playing defensive
It is so trash from you to not salute the spirit of SSG and to not accept they dominated you
SSG dominated LTS which is more might and more players so your excuse about player number is trash you so trashminded im surprisd leqrn to accept defeat
You were trashing on BDO at the beginning of the season and you didnt even showed up to assume your insult
SSG foight LTS even if they were weakened by a long fight vs you and they won but you cowards who ran from bdo who didnt manage to destroy a single tower from a younger kingdom keep complaining trashminded boy
But you skipped 2 zones not only the last zone
And we skipped final zone because it was a 3v1....let me repeat it would have been a 3v1 with no help because our allies was locked out. Please stop it. There is no comparison. You guys didn't even try even though everyone has access to the final zone. You guys straight ditched ur allies. And no 40 players doesn't count. You guys didn't build a single flag.
I understand the reasons why you guys skipped but based on your analysis, why didn't you guys build a single flag?
3v1? so NF57/BOSY +GEN/BDO vs ANCS +EIS+ NA ? HOW CAN THAT A 3v1? that is 4v3 , its because your stupid leader chooses to play with everyone and get involved in all the fights which exhaust all teleport and battle ,that is the reason why you didnt fight , you guys think that you are high and mighty which lead into bat results due to your decision to get involve in every gight, and NA and BDO doesnt have equal power in the first place during that season
NA its DYING
Great video, and I agree that skipping the final zone will be the alliance reputation. However, you can skip the final zone if your allies are depleted or your alliance fought non-stop and was being invaded on different fronts. If you skip the final zone though and your alliance or your ally is not depleted and mostly fresh, then it should not be an excuse to skip the final zone because keeping your ally and your alliance moral up shows you care to help your ally even though the odds are against you. It keeps your players engaged and does not get bored. You mentioned that your players' morale is down. I think not fighting is one of the factors. Keeping your players engaged no matter what the situation will ultimately help you retain the good fighters in your alliance. Even though your alliance lost, at least every player gave their all until the last troops they had. That's what makes a good allaince to keep the players morale up and engaged. The alliance that will be on top is the one that has players that are engaged and fight no matter what the odds because it's fun to pvp and practice your strategy in the field. Not fighting will hinder your ability to develop a good strategy in the future. Does your ally know that you guys are skipping the final zone? With the alliances who skip from previous seasons that you mention. Did they skip because their ally and their alliance depleted because they fought non-stop in differnt zone? If so, then I think it's good to skip the final zone. If not fighting and they are not depleted then it's shame to skip final zone.
Very good points 👍
exactly. Look at NTS, as an example, they fought uphil battles all the time, but their spirit and their dedication of fighting, got them constantly new recruit, and look at them now, 19B power ...close to 20B... and 2 season ago they were 11B power... even tho they lost, they came out victorious in recruits, cuz they shown they are not afraid to fight, disciplin, good tactics and they grew and grew. beeing passive and just defend or dodge ...wont help with player morale, as ... idk how many ppl will want to join such an alliance that all they do is turtle => harms recruitmant => dead weight is more => more inactivity... and i'm not saying to shame or anything about NA, but just to raise awareness... being honest and providing a fighter's Point of view @hulksdengaming
the more passive communities become, the more dead the game becomes, naturally it will just die off. vs. if you have daily content, fight here fight there... keeps your players engadged => new people join as they see it is soo much fun => game also lives ...communities also live... and hate to say it, but if NA wont get their sh*t together and actually do something, it is going to become a wasteland. I enjoyed watching your content in the past, as u were pointing actual combat PoV for the videos you were posting for guides / builds... but lately none, and i do also think, that hurst you also as a content creator. I watch ur videos as they usually have something good in them to learn, a different point of view that sometimes stands out from the crowd ( i praised u here ), + it also gives publicity to NA to get fighters in. but as it is now... sry to say...but NA fell hard...i hope they can bounce back, I had MEGA respect to NK back in the days ...
@tiborbalazs1810 great feedback thanks
I think your assessment of skipping the final zone was a crucial error on your leaderships part. Your allies were highly active and you could've had a great fight with your combined strength in the last zone. Your players would've been engaged and at the end of the day, we play the game to fight...not to farm. You can't compare skipping the zone in the way you did by leaving your allies hanging to BDO's prior season. BDO fought the entire time and then didn't enter the zone bc they're allies got locked out. They would've entered the final zone alone. lol How is that the same? Think about it without any bias. Nonetheless, it seems BDO still fought until the end although they were getting attacked from all sides.
I think it’s not that deep it’s a war game doesn’t matter you going to lose just show up and try your best, skipping will always result in your alliance looking bad
Good points 👍
People in NA didn’t show up for the final zone fight because of the announcement that you guys weren’t fighting in the final zone. The truth is NA dodged BDO the entire season then betrayed their allies by abandoning them and leaving them fighting on their own for dragon even though everyone has access to the final zone. NA is going to stand for No Allies next season if they don’t end up disbanding 😂
As mage main should i focus on t4 vestals or t4 celestials. I'm in season 2 now
Mostly celestials if you are in the league of order. However, if you plan on switching to other factions and still want to remain magic main, then you should probably train a lot of vestals
If you are still only T4, then you should focus on vestals because it will be the first T5 that you unlock. unlocking celestials will take a long time
Bro stop lying NA started pushing SSG after z3 opened you werent able to beat SSG or destroy a single of their tower during z2 fight why you lying you started pushing after LTS started fight SSG lol lier
You don't realize I have the receipts of NA pushing 2 days before Z3 opened. I have video recordings of the Push and I'll probably upload them if I have to
@@HulksdenGamingyou guys literally pushed them when they were saving healing for pass 3
@j0elembiid713 we pushed 2 days before Z3. Main plan was to Weaken ssg/imb/dbb that way our allies could have it easy in Z3. Ended up knocking off around 2b power. I recorded the push. They decided to give up because they eventually saw what we were trying to do.
Yeah and by design didnt even try to enter z3 ahhahahaha
Super alliances are pointless if there’s alliances not even going to try fighting.
Hi, I'm in season 1 playing with mages Liliya Velyn and I don't know if I should have the League of Order or the Guardians of the Spring, which faction would be best in my case?
League of order for Mages
NA has lost any respect it ever had with the dodging of 2 zones. Also, critiquing LTS on their z3 when you were merit trading and afk farming is a low blow. LTS never gave up fighting but ya gave up early. Your leadership needs a change after this seaspns decisions or find a new home.
NA people trying to cope lmao
Shitting on your ally when you couldnt even destroy one tower of SSG durin z2lol trash mind
NA next dead alliance XD whoever get allied with them in KVK matchup will have a low morale instant minus 1 in the allies XD get out NA players before its too late lmao
Why do you only have 250k dead troops?
Trashed alliance lol
It's a skip 😃 generally it's always best to try irrespective.
Absolutely!
thaleia primary will give you better merits brother
Thundelyn as the primary will give her more time to complete her 6s rage skill against enemies who dies quick. I think the amount of merits you get will depend on the amount of time it takes before the enemy dies
Betrayers betraying… what else is new hahahahaahhaahah
I think thaleia need buff
True. Her single Target rage skill doesn't compare to the Epic waldyr aoe rage skill
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Does not matter if NA skip or not, no matter what you do there is alway bad comment from same people.
Agreed
I Better skip Call of dragons and focus on AoE. Uninstall THAT shit bro
I have never known someone to waffle on as much as you Hulk. For the love of god please try to be brief. Nobody wants to watch a 2h30 video
The explanation was only about 25 minutes. I'll put time cards. The rest of the video was testing the Mages in the final Zone fights
@HulksdenGaming you should be able to summarise a whole kvk in less than 5 minutes.
@BoatyMcBoatFace49 it's not very easy without a written script 😂
bdo basically skipped their necro because they deem it they cant defend it and they also skipped last zone previous kvk against NA/ancs/eis because they also think they cant win so why is bdo bitching and complaining now? like i swear they are never consistent and always have double standards it seems when they do it nobody can blame them -_-
You sound silly. The two situations are not comparable. BDO fought until the end, whereas you're not fighting at all and left your allies hanging.
Lol you idiot 😂😂😂
BDO fought until the last day of this previous season even if it was a 1v2 (NA and EIS the hold their Z2
I recognized theu didnt entered the z3 but who would risk a 1v3 ?
The difference here is that NA dodged a 2v2 they leaved their ally alone in last zone idk how a normal person can act like this and start trashtalking bdo because they choosed to fight 1v2 than 1v3 this guy is crazy
You have the IQ of a toddler.
Let me ask you this.... Why do you think at the end of the bdo season (last season) their allies praised them and thought it was a great kvk. However NA's allies trash talk them and say they're dying?
Also, why do you think people are saying NAs recruitment after this season will be terrible but BDO had a great migration in after last season, to the point where bdo is the second strongest alliance in the game power wise behind Eds.
Why do you think those things are true? Do you think they entire cod community just does not like NA? If so....why? Lol I would love to hear your answers on this.