Research in Victoria 3: Explaining the WORST Tooltip in the Game and 2 ESSENTIAL Strategies

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  • @White-lh3le
    @White-lh3le 7 місяців тому +189

    It isn't a Generalist Gaming video without the loud ass car popping in.

    • @dank42069
      @dank42069 7 місяців тому +8

      Loud = funny

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 7 місяців тому +61

    I only recently realized the value of going straight for Atmospheric engine while lathe spreads, so seeing this even more efficient strategy is a real game changer. I mean that saves like half a year of research on a great tech!
    I used to be really bad about almost never researching things ahead of time. I've since realized the value of getting important stuff like Mutual Funds BEFORE the 5 remaining tier 2 social techs that I really don't need that badly.

    • @resisbence4771
      @resisbence4771 7 місяців тому

      I never would've expected MahDryBread in this comment section!

    • @MahDryBread
      @MahDryBread 7 місяців тому +8

      @@resisbence4771 I play A LOT of Victoria 3
      I play A LOT of Paradox games in general

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, I think I only started doing this slingshot consistently during the 1.5 beta, but had dabbled w/ it due to how the tech bonuses applied in previous patches (a reduction in tech cost, rather than modifying innovation contribution). It's a weird play pattern because you go from wanting to be highly efficient when innovation is effectively expensive to being wildly inefficient when innovation is effectively cheap.
      Are you excited for Dominions 6 next week?

    • @MahDryBread
      @MahDryBread 7 місяців тому

      @@generalistgaming It was a real game changer when I started researching more things ahead of time. Like as Belgium I got Malaria Prevention in I think it was the late 60's or early 70's. Normally I wouldn't be getting that until 90's at the earliest! It completely changed how I play so many nations.
      Hell yeah I'm pumped for Dominions 6! I was actually just tweeting about it the other day, I only knew it was coming out thanks to your videos. I used to play Dominions 2 in high school!

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому +2

      Malaria Prevention is probably the most rushable tech in the game - honestly not sure where I'd put it relative to stock exchange n the tier list. Oh man, that's old school - I only have a few hundred hours so I def feel like I'm still trying to learn the game.@@MahDryBread

  • @Memanruler
    @Memanruler 7 місяців тому +47

    Thank you for dedicating your time to teaching us

  • @XemawthEvo2
    @XemawthEvo2 7 місяців тому +17

    Well this guide was extremely helpful for me, due to finding out Universities do NOT generate literacy. Coming from Vic 2, the idea of the institutions providing the main source of literacy makes sense, but since the pop-promotion mechanic doesn't exist, I assumed Universities would have been the replacement for that mechanic.
    Thank you for showing me how important timely technology research is important to not only development, and how certain techs are highly influential on overall education impact.

    • @KarstenOkk
      @KarstenOkk 7 місяців тому +4

      Indirectly they do, since pops with jobs that the university employs (clerks, and especially clergymen and academics) have a higher base literacy rate. But if you are a very large country, a single university is not going to make a dent into that.

    • @Bleilock1
      @Bleilock1 5 місяців тому +2

      Well unis also increase qualifications... so lets not forget that

    • @lateralus6512
      @lateralus6512 3 місяці тому +1

      There is a pop promotion mechanic, but the game does a poor job of explaining it.

  • @johnmcorigin2389
    @johnmcorigin2389 6 місяців тому +3

    I had no idea how this reseach works and learned a lot from your tutorial. Thank you very much!

  • @thatch7653
    @thatch7653 7 місяців тому +5

    certified generalist banger

  • @abhishekvchaudhari8181
    @abhishekvchaudhari8181 7 місяців тому +2

    This is what I was confused about, I thought there was a malice and not just cost increase in the higher tier techs. Good stuff as always big guy👍

  • @10z20
    @10z20 7 місяців тому +2

    Slingshot method is smart, thanks dude!

  • @alfredoontiveros6504
    @alfredoontiveros6504 29 днів тому

    The slingshot is gold. Thanks, man.

  • @LadCarmichael
    @LadCarmichael 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video, I wondered for a bit if slingshotting T3 techs was worth it but I think you're right, eating the malus is worth compared to the gains.

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому +1

      It depends on how big your eco is - I think it will often, but not always make sense. I think if you're rushing pumpjacks specifically (where you need two techs first that you might not be making good use of), or researching rubber mastication to go into rubber tools, in which case you don't finish mastication, that it can make a lot of sense.

  • @user-bl7dt8zf6l
    @user-bl7dt8zf6l 7 місяців тому +1

    Hello there! Great guides, I learned a lot about the game thanks to your economy guides.
    Though I still have a lot questions about how SOL impacts your economy and what to do after you reach around 700-800 mil gdp.
    Can you do a video about best benchmarks of GDP per capita and sol at certain dates, like when to stop investing and let the pops get accustomed.
    In previous videos you said about changing trade policy in late game being a meme, but I truly think it's the play

  • @konga382
    @konga382 Місяць тому

    It took me a year of play before I figured out that the game tracked innovation above the "cap," and that the spread bonus counted excess innovation as unspent innovation.

  • @Junker-sq6pu
    @Junker-sq6pu Місяць тому

    I think you have earned the crown of the Arumba07 of Victoria 3

  • @YB31234
    @YB31234 7 місяців тому +1

    You just blew my mind I've been playing this game since it came out and I had no idea the research worked like this. The slingshot method is genius! Say goodbye to inefficiently researching techs for me, thanks!

  • @michaelangelo1202
    @michaelangelo1202 17 днів тому

    bro you should became a teacher in real life, for real i enjoy so much ur explanation

  • @Raptorsified
    @Raptorsified Місяць тому +1

    Is there any consideration for building a single university in provinces for the 25% migration attraction? I have been building one university and one fine art for those bonuses when they come into play. A total of +50% migration attraction is pretty nasty.

  • @peterfoy6045
    @peterfoy6045 8 днів тому

    The most useful part starts at 18:00

  • @PoltergeistHC4L
    @PoltergeistHC4L 2 місяці тому

    GOD TIER TIPS TY!!

  • @Thunder103093
    @Thunder103093 7 місяців тому +2

    when is it a good time to build more unis? since they are expensive & i have trouble building fast as others do, like do i judge it be income? gdp? or construction?

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому +1

      In the video I mention somewhere around 180-250 construction wanting to build to EoS and then spam 100-200unis after maybe 1-2k

    • @Thunder103093
      @Thunder103093 7 місяців тому +1

      @@generalistgaming yeah i cant afford that as anyone when i play

  • @emt2185
    @emt2185 4 місяці тому

    My dumb ass thought innovation spread was hard capped 💀No wonder I always feel like my economy is behind and that my tech was perma-behind unless I started as a very literate country, no matter what I did. This is such an important video to learn how to play the game

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  4 місяці тому +1

      The tooltip for it is awful - this is the most commonly misunderstood thing.

  • @salmon4252
    @salmon4252 6 місяців тому +1

    So for the slingshot method, if I understand correctly you are better off researching everything you can up to 10k while the nat spread takes care of the older tech?

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  5 місяців тому +2

      At least one thing to 10k - it still might make the most sense once you get there to go back to the older tech, because getting something like atmo earlier is a big deal.

  • @anthonyc2076
    @anthonyc2076 5 місяців тому +1

    ​ @generalistgaming does the qualification bonus to universities only apply to a specific state so I should build one in each state?

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  5 місяців тому

      Only specific state, so if you need quals you spread 'em, but it's important to emphasize that throughput is insane on unis so if you want to maximize innovation putting them in one place is important

  • @budek_me
    @budek_me 4 місяці тому

    Hey! Could you make a guide for qualifications and discriminated pops?

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  4 місяці тому

      I'm not sure there's enough to talk about to make a tutorial on it, I'd have to think about it

  • @JakeMoon515
    @JakeMoon515 7 місяців тому

    This video was insanely helpful for me to understand strategies regarding universities going forward. Although personally, I struggle with trying to find exactly what point in my construction I should begin slingshotting my universities. Do you have an estimate at around how much construction building these universities starts to become negligible?

    • @JakeMoon515
      @JakeMoon515 7 місяців тому

      I’m trying a healthy man if Europe run and I can’t seem to get the tier 5 healthcare tech before the game ends

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому

      I feel like you have it reversed a little - you want to use the slingshot method when your economy is smaller, and then swap to ahead of time as you get bigger. I generally like to build to EoS starting at around 180-250 construction, and then build 51-102 ish unis around maybe 800-1100 construction? Less sure on a good range on the second number.

  • @immortal1337
    @immortal1337 7 місяців тому +1

    Hello thanks for the video. But does the University +20% Qualification bonus only count towards the Qualification in the state that it has been build in? Do pops not move to University and move back to a state where they could find work?

    • @GODVxXxV
      @GODVxXxV 7 місяців тому

      You are giving the game too much credits, no such thing exist. Either pop works in a state forever or they move

    • @immortal1337
      @immortal1337 7 місяців тому

      so I can educate them in one state and than if they dont find work suitable they move to a state where they find one? @@GODVxXxV

  • @mr.negativenancy5751
    @mr.negativenancy5751 7 місяців тому

    Thank you. This helps me

  • @TheIceTeagames
    @TheIceTeagames 7 місяців тому +1

    So the unis arent giving you any literacy at all?

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому

      Not in a direct mechanical way, no.
      Academic profession will almost always hit 100% literacy themselves though because of both a high wage multiplier as well as a special bonus, so it would pull up the average in the state slightly, but that higher wage multiplier might lead to slightly higher local prices because of higher consumption from the academics, which might make lower SoL pops basket of goods more expensive and offset the positive effect to some extent. Not sure at that minute level

  • @romanmakarov4973
    @romanmakarov4973 6 місяців тому

    Doesn't throughput apply beyond it's cap? e.g. if EoS is 20, than every building beyond 20 should have maximum possible efficiency. At least that's how I understood the throughput mechanics. And if I'm right, then we shouldn't use EoS as a metric for universities amount.

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  6 місяців тому

      Throughput applies beyond the cap. If I build 51 buildings they'll all have 50%, if I build 52 the 52nd will still have 50%.

  • @lsuperior
    @lsuperior 7 місяців тому

    how many subscribers before we get to see you on the keyboard?

  • @jessevaughan464
    @jessevaughan464 Місяць тому

    Are you an economics major or just a ridiculously committed gamer?

  • @carolousrexwittelsbach2184
    @carolousrexwittelsbach2184 7 місяців тому

    I still don't get why slingshot is faster than the rest

    • @LittleGoblinBoi
      @LittleGoblinBoi 7 місяців тому +3

      You're technically researching both Atmospheric Engines and Lathe at the same time, so BOTH get progress.
      And the research cost of atmospheric engine is dependant on how many remaining techs you have in the first era.
      Thus, going just until 9900-9950 research spent for atmospheric engine and then switching to lathe to quickly finish that will mean the cost of atmospheric engine will go down from 12.5k to 10k, saving you weeks of research points. You will have to wait only 1-2 weeks after you switch back to Atmospheric Engine

    • @alexandererhard2516
      @alexandererhard2516 7 місяців тому

      Well you're getting the Atmospheric Engine earlier. You'll get the Lathe a bit later however.
      However if you want to boost up all those Iron Mines you're probably building, AE is a much more important tech.

    • @carolousrexwittelsbach2184
      @carolousrexwittelsbach2184 7 місяців тому +1

      @@LittleGoblinBoi I get it, thanks bro

  • @frankargenti
    @frankargenti 7 місяців тому +2

    "not terribly long video" ... one terribly long video after : wow that video was surely long

    • @BeefCurtain91
      @BeefCurtain91 7 місяців тому +7

      It was only 30 minutes. With chapters. Pretty short for our guy

  • @kalu19991
    @kalu19991 7 місяців тому +1

    I dont see russhing higher tier techs as usefull, because my economy isnt ready to use those PM so it turns out to be usless for years after i research them

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому

      Not sure exactly what you mean by the economy not being ready tbh

    • @kalu19991
      @kalu19991 7 місяців тому +1

      @@generalistgaming for example if i switch too early to steel buildings, it will lead to huge deficit and bancrupcy. You need to have steel mills first, and even some spare capacity on them, so when you switch prices dont go crazy.

    • @generalistgaming
      @generalistgaming  7 місяців тому

      It's definitely impactful if you just swap a few at a time and then add goods, then swap a few more. If you wait until you can swap all and overbuild all the steel and glass and such then you're going to have a huge lull where the buildings you're building aren't very profitable@@kalu19991

    • @kalu19991
      @kalu19991 7 місяців тому

      @@generalistgaming yes, but that is tidious when running large country like Russia. Maybe the devs should add some regions mechanisam where you can group x number of states and change their PM all at once.
      + Local prices need to be revorked. Electricity needs to be able to transfeer to neighbouring state woth lets say 40% loss, but with tech it gets to 30%, 20% and so on.

    • @Gutraidh
      @Gutraidh 5 місяців тому

      @@kalu19991 I wish they add a way to change production method from the local price UI because that's where I mostly manage my production now as I can immediately see the surplus and shortage in every states which helps with the MAPI