How Canada Helps Its Dairy Farmers (And Why Trump Hates It)
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2018
- Canada's dairy industry brings over 220,000 jobs and nearly $20 billion to the country's GDP. But the system has been a target in many trade negotiations, especially the recent USMCA negotiations.
Since the 1960s Canada has used a supply management system to bolster its dairy farmers against foreign trade and the risk of overproduction. Canada has defended the system, but it is frequently targeted by other countries, and also President Donald Trump, during trade negotiations. Watch this video to learn more.
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How Canada Protects Dairy Farmers (And Why Trump Hates It)
As a Canadian I want to point out that you missed one key point, US standards are lower. You have Bovine Growth hormone in your milk. We don't. Also we have more strict controls on puss content.
Another benefit of our system too is that the land that is not being used to make surplus milk is being used for other crops so instead of flushing a bunch of milk away, we are harvesting wheat, lentils, canola, hemp and other crops. Our system makes better use of our land base.
So... if American milk meets those "health standards" why are they still subject to Tariffs?
Because the "health standards" were never the reason for the Milk Cartel's existence in the first place. Are you seriously arguing that a Centrally Planned economy leads to more efficient use of resources (debunked by every economist ever)? There would be even more land to harvest other animals and crops, if we allowed the importation of more foreign milk, thus requiring less land for Cows and Milk industry. Crazy right ?
@@thadiussean9133 what about the milk farmer though ?
@@thadiussean9133 wow are you even listening? american farmers literally dump their milk because there's no demand and then you're bashing the canadian system for being inefficient?
@@mamamiabenjamia There is no "lack of demand" just innovation, ambition, and competition that leads to excess production. I know you don't get it but it's freedom at it's best and it's the reason why there is less famine in the world today than in all of recorded history.
@@ruthfelldman8285 0:16 this sounds like a good model to you? you think the tons and tons of gallons that get thrown out are somehow feeding the world? also 'just innovation, ambition, and competition that leads to excess production' ya, sounds like supply exceeding demand, doesn't it?
As a Canadian, I hate supply control. No government should have any business in protecting any special interest group at the expense of the rest of the country. There is a limit to how much they can jack up milk prices without causing demand to stagnate or drop off. Those dairy board commercial urging Canadians to drink more milk are an insult.
If I own a company that manufactures widgets, and the domestic market is only 1 million widgets a year but I decide to build 3 million widgets and then complain to the government that I'm having to throw out 2 million widgets due to lack of demand, I'd have to be mad to expect the government to compensate me for the widgets I threw out or to bully our neighbours to buy my excess widgets.
Supply and demand is the basis for any market, and if you decide to create an industry that produces far more of a given product than the market calls for, then of course you're going to run the price down.
How about, instead of trying to solve the problem by dumping excess production into Canada, the US dairy industry does a better job of controlling the supply to better meet domestic demand.
THANK YOU
Funny how any libertarian would understand this until now....
rudeboystu69 but if they did that then they would have to blame them selves for the problem they created it’s easier to blame Canada
Because the U.S. has anti- dumping laws to keep countries from dumping products on the U.S. market at below their cost of production, the main reason why the U.S. limits softwood lumber imoorts into the U.S. from Canada. Well, then Canada has every right to limit milk being dumped onto Canadian markets are below their cost of production. Two can play the anti-dumping game.
Stuart Little you are right but as we have seen so many times before with lumber when we take the US to trade court and win our own government rolls over every time and the US knows it so they knew we would roll over on milk and look we did. Its so maddening
Would dairy tariffs even be a problem if the rest of the western world adopted the Canadian system and only produced as much dairy as they needed?
Nope. Not at all. And your own farmers would have stability so even if crap happens they would be able to increase production to make up shortfalls in other parts of the country. This also goes for supplies like hay in case of drought. They could keep each other going instead of the industry being devastated in one part of the country.
@@NotSureJoeBauers and votes...
3STAR MUR Come here on a farm for a year and we will see who's on welfare ahole 😂😂😂
@3STAR MUR That's Kanookistan🇨🇦to you fella!
Farmers get fined (deducted from payment) if they make to much or too little. They'd need to find a farmer making to much and spend money to make up the missing milk, or face fines
As an American dairy farmer I've always appreciated how Canada manages their supply and takes care of their producers. Down here the oversupply and unregulated expansion is driving so many of us out of business. The effect it's having on rural communities and their economies is tremendous. It breaks my heart to think about all of my neighbors who's barns now sit empty because they had no other choice. Good, hard working, honest people who were good stewards that took pride in doing a good job. All lost for what? Cooperate greed? Bragging rights? I do fear that if and when this all shakes out and only large corporate dairies are left the consumer will end up paying way more for dairy products than they ever imagined. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe Canada's system isn't perfect but I hope what's happened here never happens to dairymen and women there.
As someone who grew up on a small dairy farm. I couldn't agree with you more. I personally believe they could solve the over supply of milk in the US in one quick easy step. Outlaw any dairy with over, say a thousand cows. Such as Fair oaks in Indiana and the one in Minnesota that milks 65,000 cows. Put the dairy farms back with the small family farmers!
That's really no one else's problem but yours. There's no such thing as over supply due to lack of regulation. That's called competition and the vast majority of people in the economy benefit from it. Neither the US nor Canada should be supporting these kinds of programs. This is special interest rent seeking at its most obvious.
The sad truth is, even if more US dairy enters Canada, Canadians just won't purchase it. Pushing US surplus of dairy on your neighbours to the North or South won't solve the root of the problem. The small to medium dairy farmers are just one of the casualties of US capitalism. Deregulation and no cap on production can only make a bad situation worse.
Look at the situation of the dairy industry in the EU. They are insanely regulated and massively over produce. The farmers are getting murdered because subsidizes are keeping too many farms a float. It is a bit cruel to think of it that way but the government is encouraging a product people already have too much of.
@@buckydragon You are so right.....The US needs to manage their issues....Canadians are not going to purchase US products
Usa should export the milk to Asia there is huge demand for milk as its used in making sweet and even sour dishes.
No more want to import from the U.S. thanks To Trumps
Asia prefers Au and Nz dairy.
@@ruvin7023 they are racists.
No that’s us aussies job
jaxk snow how?
Awesome love dairy farmers really hard working people
Said that Canadian Farmers have better life style than US..as if that's a crime. Proud that Canada honours its farmers and thinks about them rather than just bullying rest of the world.
Maybe do a video on how New Zealand dairy farmers survive with no subsidies, no import quotas, no tariffs, no hormones in it's milk, free range grass fed cows and yet still competes against heavily protectionist countries like the USA and Canada. And provides the income for an entire nation to survive.
I hope we keep taking care of our farmers. Mad respect for all my fellow Canadians.
Number of dairy farms in Canada declined by 14% vs 18% in the US since 2011, the same time period. Same downward trend and decline. lol Canada's doing so great, right! HAHAHAHAHAAHHAA i've worked for a dairy farm when I was younger and they were already struggling, they complained about the quota system, they can't even own more cows or grow their operation. There's a limit number of cows you can own by region.
mmm this aged badly
Its the opposite, it's not a free market!
We the end consumers end up paying more.
How can you ever waste mike? Turn it into cheese or what not.
yeah and then what to do with the cheese? The US already tried doing this btw
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@@ironboy3245 Or turn the milk into milk powder.
@@Mugen_YG this makes sense
@@Mugen_YG no use making it into milk powder if people arnt buying it and it’s just sitting there wasted money making it
...the world produces more food than we humans could possibly hope to consume. At the same time, millions of people go to sleep hungry every night from starvation. Go figure.
c woolfork Go feed the hungry then and stop crying
Big Red Obviously you don’t care because you have never gone to bed hungry. Imagine if you were were someone who didn’t have anything to eat everyday. You would be happy knowing that people who don’t know about you care enough to worry about it Atleast. Recognition of something is the first step towards stopping it or preventing thing. Have a good day
Shev Mice Lol my mother was a single mother of 5 and my dad was and is a deadbeat who never paid child support , went to bed hungry plenty of times
@@shevaankapuwatte he is just saying what to be said.
Big Red Listen to what I say carefully before you jump into conclusions. I can only imagine you and your mother having a hard time because I myself didn’t come from a home like that. Saying that you can not compare the suffering of poor people in Africa and poor people in a developed nation. It’s two completely different levels of not only poor but suffering
Canada also has roughly 10% of the population of the United States.
@@wakaisgood I see you commenting the same exact thing in every post.
@wakaisgood it is clear you have no idea about the actual trade relationship between Canada and the US.
@@paulcarpenter5731 what did he say that was wrong?
@Mrbrain bob his whole statement is wrong. If you knew the US / Canada trade relationship you would know that.
@@paulcarpenter5731 you add no information at all he said Canada's population is around 10% of the US population which is true so how is that wrong canada has around 37 million people vs 325million people which is true.
Quality not Quantity
Why can't Canada let me make the decision on the quality I want and how much I want to pay for it?
@@epickiller30 cuz who wants blood and pus milk
So an increase of approx .5% ? Those negotiators really earned their paychecks there
they are really milking it...
LOL
Haha.
B Zz Your funny ha,ha!
Such an udder disgrace
It's never wrong to protect your own farmers, after all it warranties food security to your own people.
I have 2 milk cows and drink my own milk and sell to a select few who appreciate what I bring and know that knowing your farmer is the BEST way
$163,000 per is nothing when you have to reinvest a lot of your money back into your dairy farm. I have family friend who is a dairy farmer and I've seen how expensive it could be... I love milk and drink it all the time! I support my Canadian dairy farmers and don't mind spending $5.90 for milk if it means protecting our farmers.
Exactly. I know a few people making over $200,000. They don't own many possessions that's not related to farming.
Yes and the average dairy farm in Quebec owns 63 cows, they're small dairy farms that are closing at an alarming rate. Ontario has a slightly higher average at 100.
In Wisconsin US the average is like 250 cows and someone who owns below 100 is struggling as well.
Too much dairy? STOP GIVING THEM HORMONES THEN!
... and stop over producing (subsidies or not)
I think that's an overstated myth. Dang near ever gallon of milk I buy in the US says from rbst free herds. And in my neighborhood I don't know of a single dairy farm that uses it. I know 6-7 that don't, ~1400 cows total. Not a single one that does.
or stop altogether. grow almonds instead.
@@Farming_in_Eden That's because it's been illegal to use hormones in dairy and poultry production for decades; long before the "organic/free range/ethically produced" marketing techniques. It's another misleading term used to upcharge products.
As a Canadian, #$%& the dairy cartel. Dairy prices are so egregious that pizza parlours used to smuggle grocery store pizza kits across the border because taking the cheese inside of them was cheaper than buying their own.
KUDOS ✌ CANADA
FROM - INDIA
Watching in 2020, Good job Canada. Way to look out for your people ❤️
i live in an area with a lot of dairy farmers - they work hard, have huge investments in their farms and equipment and they are great neighbours i like the simple system that works and keeps both producers and consumers supported and at fair prices
and yes i am Canadian
Anyone notice how happy and healthy the cows in Canada look and act and even live in cleaner facilities too! OH CANADA!👏👍👏💟
I love how Canada government always think about Canadians. Unlike most countries where most government always think for their own benefit first.
They are not thinking about ordinary Canadians. They are thinking about maximizing profits for Canadians who happen to own farms.
Making food more expensive is not in the interest of most people.
@@MrEndzo And neither should wasting food be in your interests
Yeah cuz the carbon tax will be benneficail to all canadians. Yeah right
@@Ethanj387 Carbon tax will be beneficial to Quebec :)
Natrel Milk sells small individual packs from Canada on Amazon and it's so good.
That's so sad that dairy gets dumped :(
It's far better to dump dairy than consume it.
That would sure lighten the burden on the health care system.
Whos going to sell me american milk?
No one around here. Local milk only. Buy Canadian.
Id rather buy the same product at a lower price.
@@chadleach6009 It's not the same product. Milk quality in Canada is substantially higher than the US. Enjoy your hormone filled milk.
@@BrBCatsOnFireLuL according to who and based on what? I live in fl but my family mostly move back and forth between Canada and here every year. As far as taste and health quality i can't attest to any difference between them.
If you don't want it then don't buy it as im sure there are people in the us just like you. By opening trade up further all we do is give people more options and expand our domestic business to meet overseas demand.
Chad Leach ---> TV show called W5 in Canada did an hour on the hormones being injected into US cattle to increase milk production, Canada chose to not allow the same practice, we thought we'd wait a few decades & see how it effects US consumers, US consumers Canada's lab rats...
@@bigfatbaataed except the us already tested these on actual lab rats as have thousands of other scientific bodies around the globe.
Do you know what the result has been, no medical problems or issues for either the animals or the people and a lower cost for the farmer.
You can call the us lab rats but we would just call canada primitive.
I've often wondered why the government would subsidize corporate farms, even to the point of paying them NOT to produce, and not just let the whole BUSINESS take care of itself.
But the Canadian system doesn’t allow for corporate control of dairy... how is that fair to multi-billion dollar companies??
This story is missing one major factor. Over the past 40 years, Canadian farms have grown bigger and bigger. The quota system has made it impossible for younger generations to buy out their parent's farms. The family farm does not exist in Canada anymore. For example, my father, back in the 1960's was able to purchase a farm with aprox. 400 acers, a house, cows, machinery etc. for $27 000.00. More importantly he was able to pay it off in 16 years. This was before the quota system. Back then, many people became farmers because it was affordable. Today, If I was to buy the equivalent of my father's farm, it would cost me about $ 10 million dollars. The price of quota alone is keeping people out of farming. This is the same for poultry and pork farmers. Meat producers in Canada do not have a quota system and that sector is doing very very well. The price of meat in Canada is pretty close to the price of chicken, yet it cost's a lot less to grow chickens as it does cows.
I've been a farmer here in South Florida for 27 years and the last three years has been the greatest years of my life thank you President Trump #trump2020
Over supply will fix itself if left alone. Government control = higher price for consumers at the market and consumers have to subsidize on the front end.
Protectionism - surely something best left in the 20th century.
very informative thnak you
3:21
Happy cows come from Canada. 🐄🐮🇨🇦
You're delusional. Do some research on what goes on in the dairy industry. It's horrific. The cows are definitely not happy.
@@jamescrud - Relax dude. I was only making fun of an ad campaign that is/was ran in California that would say, "Happy cows come from California". And plus I put a time stamp where you see one cow giving kisses to another cow. I could never be cattle farmer because I'd get too attached to these cows like they're my pets.
To be honest, I am trying to go more plant based vegan in my diet because my digestive tract can't really handle dairy anymore. I've been going through serious cheese withdrawals lately and hate it because vegan cheese is just not as good as the real thing. Trust me. I know what goes on in the meat and dairy industry. More motivation to go full vegan.
@@islandbee You know, you can get those pills that contain enzymes that help you digest milk. On of my friends has trouble digesting dairy and pops one of those pill before eating his poutine.
@@alexseguin5245 - I'll have to look them up. But if it's some prescription type of medicine, I'm not interested. I'd rather just eat cheese less often.
@@islandbee Happy Cows come from the US too...they are US citizens.
Did I dream or did I just see Trump complaining about tariffs?
That is why he is putting tarrifs on imports. Why is that surprising? If they get rid of their tarrifs we USA can do the same.
Of coarse he complain about the tariffs, because those are THEIR tariffs, Trump only support his own (aka USA) tariffs. American 1st remember?
@@lyegm Trump went to g7 and told other countries how about we all have 0 tariffs.
You really are uninformed sheep. The only reason Trump has placed tariffs is because foreign nations have had tariffs on American goods for years. Freaking clueless
Trump wants zero tariffs. Trump wants Fair Trade. Americans agreed and put him in office. Canada has too many dairy farms and not enough customers; a free market would sort that out really quick. the story of Avro is truly a sad tale and the fate of the Arrow.
The thing that I think is very unfair about the supply management system in Canada is that it makes it virtually impossible to become a dairy farmer you wanted to. I have seen several interviews where farmer proudly say, "I'm a 3rd generation dairy farmer". Yeah, you inherited the QUOTA from your father who got it from his father. Right now in Canada, quota is more than $30 000 a cow. Really? If you wanted to have a dairy farm with 100 cows, you'd need $3 000 000 just for quota before you buy any cows, build any farm buildings. How much milk do you have to sell just from one cow before you cover the cost of quota? I grew up on RAW milk that my mother bought from a local farmer (who didn't sell milk commercially as she only had two cows). I wanted raw milk for me but it is illegal for farmers to distribute raw milk. (Isn't that convenient for them!) So, I am in the process of acquiring a MINIATURE jersey (like a miniature pony, but a cow). Then I thought, what a nice way to live. Work on your own farm, sell milk and be your own boss until I looked into it. With "quota" that is realistically only for people who inherit dairy farms. Dairy farmers are thugs, pure and simple, just like gansters who did anything to protect their "territory" during prohibition, dairy farmers are only interested in taking care of themselves and regulating the market for themselves and keeping everyone else out. It's completely unfair. What do I have to work for an onery demanding boss and they get to be their own boss for no other reason than they inherited the family farm and with quota no no one else can get into dairy farming if they don't inherit it? I think it's completely unfair. You can't start your own dairy farm, you can't fish commercially (due to licensing restrictions), you can't do many other thinks because "interested stakeholders" use the strong arm of the law to keep everyone out of the market and people wonder why there are no jobs. Thomas Jefferson said resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. I'd encourage anyone in a rural setting to get their own miniature cow (you don't need a big ole dairy cow), produce your own milk, cheese, ice cream and butter simply not buy any commercially produced milk products at all.
Right
Canadians pay twice as much for Dairy Product as our Neighbors to the South.
Compounding this cost is the marketing Board.
Further too the Cdn. Government limits the amount of Dairy Products are allowed imported.
Its protectionism that is costing the Canadian Housewife dearly at the dinner table.
Lets stop paying 20 billion to help farmers and fix the street's with that 💰.
I won't buy us hormon milk
Hormone
what will hormone milk do to people?
Also, too much estrogen in girls will cause the opposite effect, they will start producing much higher level of testosterone than what's naturally occurring in women.
Ya Im betting the US isnt the only ones using them.
I don't want to get cancer, after drinking American milk for 50 years
I go to university in Wisconsin. In one psych class we were told specifically that dairy farmers are at a very very high risk of suicide. That's how bad of shape dairy is in right now.
I know this is an older video but it should be noted Agriculture in general is the only industry forced to supply itself paying retail and forced to sell at wholesale.
If it takes that much intervention to keep a business going, couldn't someone say that maybe it's a failed business model in the first place.
Maybe not a good business one, but a political one? Besides votes and money it could be an issue of taking care of your own and securing your own supply as a nation which can sorta tie in for patriotism or in case of war when they can turn up that excess capacity or stop dumping milk and turn into milk powder for troops and emergency supplies
Kinda wish I could move up there to Canada. I like the new rural immigration programs too.
2:01 this is how you look at morning before exams
I don't understand *WHY* the U.S. market *doesn't* put quotas on their milk. Obviously *their* system *doesn't* work for their farmers.. it is *actually HURTING THEM instead.*
Hahahahahaha. This aged like the milk in the video. Never listen to a journalist. A journalist's job is to tell you what someone else said. We live in the information age, just get your information from the dairy farmer directly.
the USA should just adopt the Canadian system. problem solved.
Or canada should adopt the us system since it has been shown to be just as safe while delivering the same product at a lower price.
@Brad Pike yet with no mention of how my statement was in any way inaccurate.
*facepalms*
AWESOME !!!!
Better question is why doesn't America take up a supply managed dairy sector. It would be beneficial to the dairy farmers, to consumers of better quality product, and to the government not having to subsidise the dairy sector annually. It's effective and is one more good idea like universal healthcare that America should adopt from Canada.
Yes the income is high but the farmers have a massive cost in running their farms
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Farming is a hard job. And revenue doesn't equal profit. Also, a farm might make a lot of money, but they also have to pay employees. I'm glad our dairy farmers are making money.
try almond, rice or soy. maybe then you can produce something that doesn't mean killing innocent males for the crimes of being males.
@@TheWeepingDalek soy sucks its poisonous and causes cancer, also most of the soy in north america are produced by monsanto. And also huge amounts of people are getting allergies to soy from all the trances
@@NeostormXLMAX alomond or rice then. but just saying. i have been drinking soy since I was 6(lactose intolerance only became vegan at 16) never did me any harm.
Canadian milk is superior. BST or rBGH to dairy cows is allowed in the US, it is illegal in Canada and therefore not permitted for use in Canadian dairy cows.
Preach!
Xd
How many times do I have to tell people that these hormones are produced by cows naturally so all milk has it? U just can't give a cow an extra shot of it to make a cow produce more
Of course its illegal despite having no accredited reasoning for the ban. It would make canadian politician's look dumb and make canadian farmers uncompetitive in their own domestic market.
Chad Leach it's banned in the EU, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and every other industrialized nation. Growth hormones to cows so they can produce more milk is not okay.
This aged well
From this report, seems Canada is just protecting their citizen and market with "canada first" policy, i think the US under the current presidency should've understood and respected Canada's policy more than anyone at this point
It's a miracle that the US is still a wealthy superpower considering how stupid our government is.
Larvitar Dratini it’s a miracle that your alive I mean someone so stupid who literally knows nothing about the government who’s not in the loop talks about it
Yea. It is kinda crazy. Hopefully trump will get rid of more regulations so we can buy milk from our neighbors..... buy no one has "licenses and quotas" like the facisocialist want i.e big corps.
Dairy is subsidized to the tune of 70% in the US. IE 70%% of dairy receipts in the US come from some form of government payment
Two socialist countries. One just knows how to do it better.
AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I live in Canada and talk about the winters here
Did anyone ask how the cows feel? They do all the work!
The cows in Canada are better off... Simply judging by the fact that there are way more mega dairy corparations in the US who are not into the lifestyle... Just the money which should never be done
I think farmers asking cows every morning how they're doing.. 😒 farmers even clean the cows space and give them food vitamins and so on.
So ask yourself how are contributing to the world?
Happy cows produce more milk without using growth hormones. And Canadian cows are allowed to go outside.
@@rosestewart1606 What happens to the calves?
It's hilarious that you think the farmers do the work. Try talking with the low paid milkers working 10 to 12 hour days 6 days a week while the farmer sits in the fancy office sipping coffee watching his bank account grow.
This isn't really true, this system doesn't back up small farmers, it encourages large ones that get vast majority of subsidies and support. The majority of these farmers are in Quebec and controlled by a few families.
Why aren't other provinces allowed to have robust dairy industries?
Yeah. This video looks at the milk production from the macro level. As a fellow Canadian, I dislike the lack of competition this system has brought. The quota prices are ridiculous, and create a huge barrier of entry for small producer or medium producers outside of the Quebec or Eastern Canada. Most Canadian economist also have issues with the system, which is something CNBC doesn't mention either. And while the US milk industry is bad in comparison, Canada should do more to help actual small farmers instead of handing the profits to powerful enterprises, who are located in small towns because farms take a lot of space. Shocking discovery, I know. It seems CNBC forgot that detail as well.
I’m very against the quota system.
I know in Ontario your looking at around $30,000 per 1 kg of production. That’s with an Ontario cap it used to be higher like Alberta’s .
In Alberta it’s over 40,000 per 1 kg
I think in Quebec it’s around 35,000 per 1 kg
@@williamdelarge2491 Last year it was around 40k per kilo here in AB. I have a couple of friends who couldn't be producers because the price of the quotas ate the remaining runway they had to start a locally-sourced dairy farm. Virtually no new producers can come in AB. Meanwhile, I get to overpay for milk so the Dairy Commission keeps large milk producers wealthy and happy.
It's like that in the US with their subsidies for corn etc. It's always big business that benefits from government intervention but people do not get this.
@@izdatsumcp I think the subsidies were originally meant to support small farmers, but the programs/laws failed to change over time especially after some smart farmers figured out the legal verbiage to work in their favor and started buying out and consolidating into Big Ag.
The quota system was in place in the E.U.. It was abandonned (2015) in order to allow the market for price building. Farmers still receive subsidies and can afford to keep producing. It is true that smaller farms went out of business or will do so in the next decades. Meanwhile prices for butter and cheese went up. Here the dairy processing industry is profiting immensely. Cheap ressource and higher market prices for dairy products widened their margins.
the quality is great. I still remember what it taste like. 41 years ago.
Well this didn’t age well
Even Canadian cows are polite.
Thats very smart
Hahaha look at the background music when explaining both situation
As Canadian, I am happy to pay $4.38 for 4L of milk when I know it quality milk, sourced from within a few hundred kms, the families producing it live comfortable lives, and not relying on government handouts.
I'd like to add, I know several local dairy farmers. I do know they are VERY comfortable financially, I also know there operation costs are high, and they earn every dollar.
still a good price... in Italy a 1 liter of fresh milk cost at least 1.10€ wich is 1.65 CAD
What government handouts ? You do realize the amount they hand out is a joke we run off the bank when we're forced to sell at a loss . It's the way it works .
This reminds me of that episode of South Park where Canada builds a wall to keep the Americans out
I missed that one, did they get America to pay for it?
Haha yeah
The thing about the new trade deal is that the USA gives a quota to import a limited amount of milk. They have given Canadian products 85 percent quota so the rest can be imported from other countries. What the USA does like is that they have no intention of allowing the USA to flood the market with cheap milk.
I don't understand why grass fed dairy products are not available enough. There's a lot of demand of grass fed dairy products everywhere.
TOO MUCH MILK MAKE CHEESE INSTEAD!
At least in the case of staple industries (like dairy for example) completely free markets don't seem to work that well. How is expanding the damage supposed to fix that?
Canadian milk is not substantially more expensive, but the cows are healthier, the product is better, and the farmers actually make a decent living. Compared to the state of dairy in America, who is really doing things wrong here?
tl;dr -Maaybe Canada is a country we could learn from?
@@Mikey-fi8bb it would be great if American farmers had some stability. Wisconsin dairy farmers have been trying to get supply management but it gets nixed by the feds. Subsidies are a great way for politicians to get votes so it works for them.
Every country needs a safe and secure food supply. They're having the same issues as you in Europe. Australia had supply management but within 2 years of removing it they had to bring in a huge subsidy package...something like $220 billion.
Subsidies are fine if that's all you can do but nearly every country can produce their own dairy. But you also shouldn't have your farmers at risk because other countries have bigger subsidies. If you go this way you'll have to put tariffs on their subsidized goods to protect your farmers.
So why don't the customers get a choice if they want to pay for that "better product" if it is indeed better? Why don't they get that choice?
Thadius banned hormones in sick cows milk, hardly a choice. We dont allow poison in our milk no matter the choice. How about Americans stop overproducing and forcing other countries to buy their milk that causes cancer and 8 year old onset of puberty?
Hi nice video mapping
I appreciate your film. Please add that we have to reinforce the fact that advantaged determine who grows what, where and for how much in a free market system.
A 38k cow dairy can grow more milk than many farms together in states where there are few advantages like michigan. Wisconsim and
Minnesota. Subsidies skew the system. Each State must specialize and like eacj farmer, complete with the others before deciding what to plant, grow and shepherd
Literally had nothing to do with trump
Donald is involved in the USMCA deal but the video producers probably put Donald's name in the video for views.
You literally didn't watch the entire video.
3:04 Canada pays more for milk.
Can you Make a video on solar farms.
Thanks for the vid, really sad the way we run out food systems down here. No system is perfect but We should could learn a lot from other countries to improve things. Unfortunatly were very stuborn like the rest of the world.
In europe we had quotas for production and the subsidizes european farmers get.
Now milk are dirt cheap so farmers go belly up.
Yep, they did it wrong. Production must be matched to demand. And subsidizing farmers throws this out of balance. The key to Canadian supply management is *not* to subsidize the farmer. Quotas, price control and import controls do the job. Subsidies are fine to as an initial stimulate, but not for on-going production.
As a Canadian, screw our corrupt dairy cartel and market that have no competition.
Finally, a proper milking routine will reduce the stress on the stock, which not only improves the health of the animals but also ensure higher quality in the daily harvest.
We don't want your dairy products
Canada : Good
America : Baad
CANADIA
And as a truck driver a lot of cheese from Idaho and California went to Wisconsin
Driving Cheese to Wisconsin? Wut
i never really drink milk that much.....it was probably 6years since i last drank a glass of milk and my family don't really buy any when they go grocery shopping
Oof this didn’t age well 😅 Canada has become the most tyrannical for many farmers and laws now , due to democrat/liberal regime .
And Canada and Canadians complain about US protectionism?
I call it hypocrisy or lack of knowledge on the topic ,because Canada does the SAME.
Welcome to Canada. Wait until you learn about our maple industry. lol
That's because of supply and demand there are more diary farmers than we need
I am from an EU country and I think you should keep up that System. Its a really good one! No waste, no genetic engineering and your farmers can live of their work👍👍👍
I would not buy the crap that comes from the US!
When trump speaks I don’t hear words I hear hand 🖐 movements
Why can't these excessive Milk and diary products of America and Canada be Provided to the hungry and poor desperate Children of Venezuela.... Venezuelan Children are desperate they don't have anything to eat please do provide and supply these excessive food and milk to those children....God bless ..
Milk products don't have long shelf lives
Their government doesn’t like us a lot!
A) They don't last that long
B) They need to be fridged
C) Who would pay for all the fees?
I like how American farmers are pouring their subsidy tax dollars down the drain with their over-production. It's brilliant government at work.
A lot of smaller farms that pasture raise their dairy cows are doing quite well in the US, and only growing. The factory farm milk industry is dying out and the government doesn't need to do anything.
Canadian milk is checked for antibiotics if any are found it is rejected for human consumption to drink but is used to make cheese or other cultural production
First you try and sell us that canada keeping its dairy prices artificially high is a good thing, then you show us a list of prices from other countries that vary by as much as 58% and claim that the prices are similar (Maybe CNBC sucks at math). I think cnbc is trying to pull a fast one on us.
Alternatively, milk prices in other countries might _also_ be higher than they could theoretically fall to, but for reasons other than Canadian-style protectionism. If supply has outstripped demand _globally_ post-WWII, the dairy industry might be being propped up in many countries, to varying degrees.
It's not the governments job to control the market. If the government would quit Subidizing the market would work itself out
You do realize this is why there's no free healthcare in the USA? & how a lot of life saving medicines are more expensive in the USA than anywhere else? That's what "the market would work itself out" would look like in the worst case scenario.
And seriously, even if you just want to talk about the milk industry you already saw what happens when the government don't take control of the market; people lose their jobs & livelihood. Any Canadian just need to look at how bad the USA daily farmers are having to know that their market control is the best way to go.
According to the video, the US subsidizes their farmers by doling out money, while Canada uses cooperative regulation to stabilize prices. The're using different solutions because the problem with the free market is our technology produces way too much milk and crashes the price, favoring huge agribusiness and destroying rural livelihoods.
We pay the highest prices in the first world for dairy and meat
@@Sorcerers_Apprentice you had it going great at first, but the real problem is that the government is preventing ppl to fail. When prices are too low, the least competitive go out of the market, thus reducing supply and adjusting it for demand. Both USA and Canada models are preventing ppl to fail, USA by giving them money and Canada by restricting how much ppl are allowed to produce (which, in the really long term, likely will result on Canada's farms being less competitive, as once happened in Brazil and East Germany due to similar policies).
@@felipemendesdefreitas1240 I don't understand what you are saying. The problem of USA is that they are giving subsidies to dairy farmers which causes them to overproduce milk. Meaning they have more supply of milk compare to the demand of milk (buying milk). Due to having a huge supply the price of milk is way lower. Causing farmers in USA to have a hard time to make a living. Yes Canada restricts how much milk is produced but it is based on how much Canadian will consume. To prevent overproduction. So when you are saying competitive that doesn't make sense because there major consumer is Canada. Competitive how?
Wow Canada's cows and milk look so clean
Let the competition begin
Bogus! Get the Government out. Turn over to free market. Eliminate all subsidies and taxes.
Get rid of the 60% subsidies on all American agriculture. Every country props up their farmers via subsidies or price floors.