How to Fix Silver Snow
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Silver Snow is easily the least original route in all of Fire Emblem Three Houses. With almost no exclusive content and a really bland story, there is currently no reason to play Silver Snow (other than to unlock Funeral of Flowers, which is actually really good).
This video will discuss the current state of Silver Snow and its many problems. Then, I attempt to revise the route so that it is a more original and (hopefully) enjoyable experience. This new route includes a playable Rhea, two brand new chapters, and a revision of some of the clone levels from Verdant Wind. The story focuses on Rhea learning to accept the loss of her people and gaining the courage to return to her life as Saint Seiros.
CORRECTION: Silver Snow was developed before Verdant Wind, so saying Silver Snow is a copy is misleading. Its more accurate to call Silver Snow “an inferior version” of Verdant Wind, which is the main point I was trying to make. Thanks to the comments that pointed this out
"Inferior version" is kind of stretching since VW is essentially just Silver Snow with Claude thrown into it and a random ass unrelated endgame.
@@CatManThree The two routes aren't that different, but Verdant Wind does have an exclusive character with unique classes and one more chapter than Silver Snow. Also Claude being the protagonist helps the story a great deal imo.
Silver Snow has almost no exclusive content outside of its final map.
@@Armads4Prez Yeah gameplaywise it was definitely lacking for various reasons. Storywise it could have been WAY better but its nothing offensively bad.
I definitely don't agree that Verdant Wind is better though. Way I see it is Verdant Wind is tragically disappointing and suffers immensely from the copy paste of a route that has nothing to do with it. That's just my opinion though.
Armads4Prez based on Cindered Shadows they might as well made as well expanded that into The 5 path because the DLC does not even line up with the main story.. the Ashen wolves do not even recognize the Professor and the Ashen wolves do not even know that much about each other's history.. compared to the DLC that Ashen Wolves in the Cindered Shadows were more familiar and closer to each other. Another valid point is that the Ashen Wolves Considered Byleth, Dimitri, Claude, Edelgard, Ashe, Hilda, Linhardt Friends.. Do Not Get Me Started With Jeralt He Would Be furious with Rhea Regarding Sitri.😂😂😂 It Would makes Things Worse or Rhea have No Choice to Reveal Everything about Sitri and Byleth.
Do Not Get Me Wrong, i Like The DLC.. But It Could Of Been More if it Was More Consistent... realistically speaking Tje DLC is just as Canon as the other four paths.. we basically have 5 timelines.. 6 if Rhea ends up Dying in Sliver Snow if You Do Not A Support her... 7 If Do Not Dedue paralogue in Blue Lions Route.. If Do Not Dedue Does Not Survive The Timeskip.
I do not see how it's possible for a sequel to Made unless they give it the Ocarina of Time treatment and Sequels Based On Three Houses Paths... That Could Potentially profit.
However the Crimson flower ending makes No Sense.. I feel It Would Make sense oz Rhea Was Overwhelming Byleth and Edelgard.. Forcing Byleth To Overtax The Crest of Flame To Deal The Finishing Blow On Rhea.... But as Result Of Overtaxing it.. The Creststone Is Destroyed....Byleth survived because of His partial Natabean heritage and Being Sothis Vessal.... Meanwhile Sothis who partially remebering the past comfort and Guide The Departed Souls killed in Battle and proceed gives Rhea A Long Tongue Lashing on How Damage She Did.. But Gives Her Some Love in Seeing Her Daughter again.. Only to reprimand her again For An Idiot.... Cycle Repeats.
I just wanted adult flayn damn
I like how the best way to fix Rhea is to give her a version of Dimitri’s character arc
Dimitri's character arc is great
It is truly, but still is not absolutely perfect
@@eevee1583 the execution of ch 17 could use some polish. Also the bigger point is that different characters should have diferent arcs to appeal to diferent aspects of people or to diferent people entirely . No matter how good Dimitris arc is , you are gonna lose people if you just keep repeating it with diferent characters.
Similar arc is great, Rhea's mind is harder to be changed after all these years. Dimitri is still impressionable for he is younger.
And make her playable.
"Is there anyone else she could fight?"
Uh...After Edelgard, I guess no-
*God Shattering Star begins*
OHHHHHHHHH
Ngl, that'd be pretty freaking cool
lmao
The greatest music piece of all time plays
One big issue Silver Snow has is that it's core concept would've worked really well if the game didn't have multiple routes. Because as it stands, it was doomed to be inferior when the other paths by comparison don't sacrifice anything content-wise.
Having Macuil, Indech, and Rhea as exclusive characters would be great.
Seteth as Rhea's retainer could have been fun, especially if they dig into their sibling relationship.
The Silver Snow route in game feels like a fanfiction: "You're so smart and strong and hot *insert your name here*, would you marry my daughter?"
I know that Byleth is meant to be a silent protagonist (self-insert) but the lack of a lord to ground the story makes this more obvious
"Seteth is weaker than the other lords." He is born to be a Wyvern lord, I don't know why you want more overkill
I sent my seteth to edelgard's map alone and started skipping enemy and player turns. Only he remained.
Absolutely insane, maybe its because he has Dio's voice actor in Japanese dub... Yes that might be why.
Seteth is also way, WAY better in Hunting by Daybreak than Dimitri as a Wyvern Lord. He'll probably get swift strikes during the map (assuming you didn't farm him up to A spear pre-timeskip like I did) and Flying Mount is way better than being land locked since you can fly up on walls to limit the melee attacker bum rush.
All so Seteth (for me at least) was very bulk he had health in the 60 and on the final chapter he took like 10 damage from the church soldier. (This was on hard by the way)
They did somehow go more overkill. He’s one of only 3 characters that learns the broken swift strikes combat art(other 2 are Ferdinand and Sylvain)and he starts extremely strong
he is literally.a saint. the goddess' son.
I would LOVE to have Rhea as the MC for Silver Snow; as much as I like Seteth, neither he nor Byleth can carry a story the way Claude or Dimitri can.
As greedy as it sounds, I wish Nintendo and Intelligent Systems would make a Deluxe Edition of Fire Emblem so they can fix Silver Snow, flesh out the problems in the other Routes, and maybe do a little bit more with the Ashen Wolves (that last one may be a bit of a REAAACH, but like I said: I'm greedy).
Also: I considered marrying Rhea in my Verdant Wind Playthrough, then Constance came out.
You can't marry Rhea in Verdant Winds, only in Silver Snow.
Impossible in VW
Same. I would probably like CF if they decide to make an effort to fix the damn story. And I want Jeralt to be playable in some of the pre-timeskip maps too.
Silver Snow was disappointing bc I think it's a missed opportunity to have several thousand year old characters and barely talking about their own backstories/thoughts on the war, knowledge you would only get from them, instead of just using them as storytellers for details that could've just been in the monastery library or inferred from foreshadowing.
I think el can carry even more cause raging storm
Silver Snow is the only route who's ending properly explains Byleth's birth. You get see the crest stone in Byleth's heart at the end of Crimson Flower, and Rhea briefly covers the topic in Verdant Wind, but here you get her full presentation about how she created vessels to put the stone in to, how their parents coming together created the perfect host, and what happened to Byleth's mom. Even though it isn't too hard for the player to put it together themselves, this is the route exclusive lore dump it gives you.
You seem to reference throughout the video that Silver Snow a 'knockoff Verdant Wind'. In actuality, Silver Snow was the first route the developers worked on, and afterwards it became the base structure for Verdant Wind and Azure Moon. This also explains why Crimson Flower has less content, as they weren't able to use Silver Snow a template.
Silver Snow feels lackluster because Azure Moon and Verdant Wind basically have the exact same plot but with more characterization. Yes they could have gone back and gave it more features to stand out, but they had to make content cuts as is, so I doubt we would have seen it.
TLDR Three houses is Neopolotin, and Silver Snow is the vanilla.
Basically.
I'm pretty sure that Rhea was planned to be playable all along, but due to development constraints she was cut. There's evidence in-game and from early leaks (which got almost everything else right, including the time skip long before we knew about the time skip) that she was supposed to be playable.
The easiest way to fix these routes is to make Rhea playable in Silver Snow, replace Gronder on Silver Snow rather than skip that month, and swap final levels between Silver Snow and Verdant Wind.
All of the character development and everything can still be present, including Rhea still continuing to try and bring back Sothis through Byleth until Rhea has her own revelations just like the video suggests.
As fun as it would be to go ALL IN on replacing stuff, not all of it is necessary. Just making Rhea the Lord of the route and swapping the VW/SS final bosses would be enough.
@@JaidynReiman replacing SS and VW final maps make so much sense. Seiros gets to fight Nemesis, and Claude gets to fight The Immaculate One after going on about finding out the truth about it all the time.
Give Rhea more supports too. That'll help
@@JaidynReiman Also Rhea's paralogue should've been Claude's saint Macuil paralogue.
Honestly Seteth is my favourite character in all of Three Houses.
I think he has depth and presence to spare.
The problem is that SS isn't about him, he is tangentially affected but he isn't one of the main players in the story.
I think the idea was to make Byleth the main Lord but they needed someone ge could talk to so Seteth appeared out of nowhere to take that seat as "main Lord".
He was so unimportant, that in my run he was dead the entire time. (he died pre timeskip)
Seteth is a boring bland character that only cares about 3 things, Himself, Flayn and Rhea
@@flamepath7583 if only o could of killed him, but alas i play on casual because i dont like my units being able to be killed.
@@furyousd5690 lmao you have not read any single of his support conv what so ever. That's like saying delgard is just fuck church unify fodlan. Or Dimitri is just haha killing go brrrr
Well, Rhea IS a dragon and we all know what happens to dragons that live for too long... They go insane!
*cough* Every single Fire Emblem game in a nutshell *cough*
except path of radiance and radiant dawn
But that's why Naga made the dragon stones, right?
byvcxrrdvbf Idunn was forcefully corrupted by Yahn so she doesn’t count
Corrin did too
@byvcxrrdvbf the earth dragons from FE1/FE11, FE3/FE12 and FE4 also went insane. Only manaketes are safe from being corrupted or go insane.
"secret church route"
he does realize that crimson flower is the secret path, right?
Is it even called a secret if the game literally tells you "Your choice will impact the story!"
I thought he was being sarcastic since everyone preferred the Crimson Flower route over Rhea's thighs.
Mario2980 but if you don’t meet the conditions, it does not even give you the message “this choice will impact the story” - it forces you into silver snow unless you have the Edelgard requirements.
He was being sarcastic because nobody likes Silver Snow.
None of the path's are sectret.
My friend played this version and he framed the narrative as helping Ferdinand lead a rebellion against Edelgard to overthrow her. I quite liked this idea as Ferdinand's was always trying to challenge Edelgard for the position of Emperor. I think it would have been really cool if after the timeskip, Ferdinand gets promoted to a Lord rank (with increased stat boosts) and becomes the central lord of that route.
I don't know of this was ever done in older games, but the idea of Three Houses taking a supporting character with established motivation and then promoting him to main character sounds really cool. And you could still have Rhea be a really important character too. It's just that now Ferdinand can become the central political character the Avatar and Rhea rally around. And because we lost Hubert and Edelgard, Ferdinand and Rhea could replace both of them.
We could get some awesome exploration of both Ferdinand and Rhea this way, with Rhea focusing on the introspective and lore aspects of the route while Ferdinand takes care of the main plot of defeating the Empire. And this might conflict with your video a bit, but I think fighting Edelgard should be the main story. Because the big emotional hook of this path is having to fight against your prized student.
Everyone who played Black Eagles loves Edelgard because they explored her character so well in the first half of the game. No one wanted to kill her even if they sided against her. My friend for instance was emotionally devastated after the plot twist, he actually stopped playing for a bit, he was that torn up. This should be the focus of the plot post-timeskip because it's the only branch in the entire game that can explore such a question: What do you do when you have to fight someone you care about?
Maybe Rhea could have more paralogues than normal, kinda like an entire side story, relating to her getting rid of the Slithering guys
I love that Ferdinand idea!! and also his father was stripped off from the position of being the prime minister and his house was pretty much "disgraced" it gives him more motive. Which I wondered about when playing crimson flower because if I was Ferdinand I would've fought against her and not with her for what she did to my family
I like that Ferdinand headcannon, as well but I don't think it fits him. Sure he's Edelgard's Lancer archetype who butts heads with her but he is nice, respectful and supportive towards her. If he was more like Felix (towards Dimitri), then that would make sense. You would also need to explain why he is standing against her, now, whereas in all other timelines, he is fighting alongside the empire.
Personally, I don't like Ferdinand or at least he is the most forgettable of the Black Eagles class and his war design does not suit him, at all. He is very "generic", for lack of a better word. I welcome chances to improve him, though.
I like Ferdie as a lord but I also like Yuri as a Lord
I think the issue with that from a game balance point of view is that for that to work you need to keep ferdie alive before timeskip. However, if you are picking crimson flower over silver snow, this isn't actually important at all, so it just creates an unneccesary restriction on certain players. I do think it would be cool to have ferdinand be the one to try and overthrow edelgard, but the branching paths mean it's difficult to have both routes exist without forcing players into potentially useless objectives
Make Rhea an Archbishop/Saint class: with Aura, Abraxas, and Purge.
It would be interesting if you could also have her transform into her dragon form that might just be me though
@@soundwave1479 No I agree too playable monsters sound awesome
@@CritXB I can picture Ashe (Yes. I'm an idiot) or Raphael or Petra becoming a demonic beast if they ever touch Heroes Relics. Their Crit Hit Quotes could still work, except more echoey like Manaketes such as Corrin and Tiki and more malfested
I wish they made a special class like that for her like how Edelgard got Armored Lord, Dimitri got High Lord, and Claude got Barabossa (am i spelling that right). Plus, it would've been cool if there was one Manakete in the game. I personally think Rhea could've been a dragon that can only control her powers for a bit with a dragonstone and only goes into a full-on boss mode when she's in a draconic rage :'//
@Noah Avshalom Canonically, Rhea can instruct you in Swords, Reason, Faith, and Brawling.
Fun fact, Edelgard’s route was intended to be the secret route, not the church’s. I don’t get why they assumed that most people who picked Black Eagles would slide against Edelgard
Because that's the point of Fire Emblem Three Houses. Just look at the theme song.
I always say "Fire Emblem Three Houses is Edelgard's story. And it's a tragic story." I think the fact that Silver Snow was the first route to be made shows that the game was originally intended to be about Edelgard and the Professor bonding, then fighting and killing each other during the war.
Edelgard is the main reason why I chose BE first, so I don't get it either.
Well originally, according to the developers, it was supposed to muuuuuch harder to get the option to side with Edelgard. Her reveal as the Flame Emperor and her leaving Byleth to fight against you is supposed to be a shock to the player
@@lordmango6060 Ngl, they weren't subtle. I played blindly and started with Azure but she and Hubert were dropping hints left and right even there.
@@illusionofquality979the hints were only obvious on Dimitri’s route because of the part where she dropped her dagger. On her route, they’re extremely subtle and unnoticeable during the first time round. She comes off as this sweet innocent good girl only to reveal herself as The Flame Emperor later on.
I would love this route.
Ok, Ill admit, I like Rhea. I like how mysterious she is and also the character herself. That we never got to see how this character would act as Lord is a Shame, She is literally made for this.
It also makes sense with the weapons of all the lords (and Byleth).
Byleth: Sword
Edelgard: Axe
Dimitri: Lance
Claude: Bow
Seteth: Another axe I guess and he flies too and can do some lance stuff.
Rhea: Magic & brawling (and a sword, okay)
@@DefinitivNichtSascha Ein schönes Detail, auf das ich so gar nicht gekommen bin.
Dude, this is mind blowing for all the right reasons, I too agree that Nemesis should’ve been the final boss for Silver Snow and Rhea a unique playable character, would’ve made the route more favorable.
I never knew how much I wanted Rhea to be a recruitable unit until now. This would have been amazing for Silver Snow.
If they really wanted to make an unfinished 4th route, they should’ve put more into it and kept it as DLC. That way the 3 first routes would be ABSOLUTELY polished, and the last one as well. And it would feel normal because most people expected 3 routes from a game called *Three Houses.*
You're so right.
Agree. BL and VW work well but both of the Black Eagles route are pretty not good.
How to make a routesplit:two fine routes, a copypasta with a dumb final boss and an unfinished thing.
To be fair, the Japanese and Chinese titles allude to the four seasons and reference the routes (wind, flower, snow, and moon).
Eevee Emblem
Crimson flowers only problem was it being too short.
Otherwise it’s fun gameplay and passion filled story with Edelgard is great 👍
I like Dimitri and Claude’s routes as well.
'When I heard there was a SECRET Church route'
No. Crimson Flower is the 'secret' route. The default; if you miss the trigger; is Silver Snow. You actually need to go out of your way and do a couple of things to get Crimson Flower.
Seteth isn't a Lord either. Although his stats really aren't far off the main 4.
I'm pretty sure that was a joke, because most people prefer Crimson Flower.
I got some sweet stat gains for Seteth, but even then the only lord he didn’t outmatch was Dimitri in all of the routes.
What about a SS where the Black Eagles side with Edelgard instead of Byleth? Maybe have some sort of retention mechanic based on whether Byleth or Edelgard's support with them is higher. I think it could be very interesting - in a worst case scenario, you'd be down a full eight units, and have to readjust with just the knights of serios. By splitting the eagles, it would add some emphasis that this is the church route by giving the church units an opportunity to be used instead of the eagles.
Yeah and probably have it set up to where you can choose to recruit them when you encounter them again in combat.
You can probably use the timeskip ravine scene as an excuse for them to rally behind their homeland and edelgard with Byleth gone. To then be swayed once they reunite as foes.
Well, I believe that was supposed to happen if a student fell in battle. I tgink Edgegard says something to that effect, but it's never seen since the students are considered dead, rather than unrecuited. Real missed oppurnty though.
I agree just as much as I love Silver Snow despite its flaws I mean I like all 4 routes despite their flaws SS SHOULD balance the recruitment system concerning the Black Eagle Students other than our Goth Dude Hubert whether they join Edelgard or Byleth depends on the Support they have with one or the other like if the non-Hubert Black Eagle Students have a higher support with Byleth compared to Edelgard they're convinced their best idea in the War would be to side with Byleth as if they were recruited outside of their house in Azure Moon and Verdant Wind while if the opposite the Black Eagles other than Hubert have a higher support rank with Edelgard they'll side with her instead of Byleth just like when not recruited in Azure Moon and Verdant Wind.
All though it could make the game a lot hard compare to other route
@@jackpurches3558 Well, that makes sense since this route was considered a "Hard Mode" anyway by the delvopers. The lack of a Lord and the minus one deployment slot is a way to make the game harder, so instead of that, having this mechanic helps keep the challenge mode the original SS had.
Fire Emblem: Three Maps
Because they keep reusing, the SAME GATDAM MAPS
I have covered every single map in 3H with so much blood and body parts so many times for over 300 hours and I totally agree. Cindered Shadows was really good and added some new victory conditions that I was surprised by. Almost every single map in the main game is "Rout all Enemies", and there are few secrets. FE6 gets a lot of flak, but it did the true/secret ending pretty well.
Holy shit, your version sounds so good I’m actually disappointed we didn’t get something like this, great job!
Silver snow
+ :
- Find quickly Rhea
- Can S support Rhea
- Main route
- Fight Against The Least Amount of Former Students
- Every students will satisfy after TWSITD are defeated.
- :
- April mouth absent
- Very difficult without Lord
- Reunion at Dawn and Following the Dream hard map.
- Cannot get Felix sword and Annette Crusher and her battalions.
Other route
+ :
- Have lord character
- :
- Face enemy students
I really hate fight enemy students so that why I choose Silver Snow many times. (4th, 6th, 8th, 9th and 10th the last.)
If you are the kind of player that does not find satisfaction in killing your former monastery students, then the Silver Snow route is perfect. Out of all four routes, the Monastery Route gives players the opportunity to avoid wallowing in despair after killing former friends, colleagues, and students in battle. Since most of the church faculty and Black Eagles students will remain by Byleth’s side after Edelgard’s betrayal, this leaves only a handful of former students to fight against and most can be actually recruited if defeated by Byleth in battle.
why don't you just recruit every student if you have new game + than that should be a piece of cake
I did crimson flower first as well and I felt the same way about being lost when it came to lore. I ladee found out the Thalas was Edelgards uncle, and was shocked even though it was said, but they just gloss over every important bit in crimson flower.
I may be greedy for saying this, but I would've liked a couple of chapters of Crimson Flower dedicated to Byleth and Edelgard fighting TWSITD, before going for their final battle with Rhea. Maybe after the siege on Arianrhod (I probably didn't spell it right), Lord Arundel orders an Agarthan missile to destroy the fort in an attempt to kill Byleth, not really caring if Edelgard and the rest of the Imperial Army become casualties, Lord Arundel in the next chapter confronts Edelgard on why Byleth is still alive, Edelgard infers that it was him who sent the missile, then Arundel admits he did want to kill Byleth, not just for killing Cornelia who was their mole in the Kingdom, but because the mindset of the Agarthans are: "Fuck the Fell Star and they deserve to die a gruesome death." Essentially turning TWSITD against the Empire. Then when the Black Eagle Strike Force go to Shambahla, Arundel removes his disguise and is revealed to be Thales. After his death, Byleth and Edelgard then head to the Tailtean Plains to meet Dimitri in battle. Like I said, I might be greedy for wanting something more out of Crimson Flower, but I still like it more than Silver Snow.
the chills when he said nemesis could fight seiros tho I was always thinking that should have been her fight, for CF I thought it'd be cool if those who slither in the dark betrayed edelgard after killing rhea and so theres a couple more chapters potential there, for claude I'm not sure
Like, make VWs last few fights SSs, make SSs CFs, and give Claude a final fight with like, his dad or something. Just shofting around the endings make the routes make more sense.
People keep saying Seteth is the Lord in Silver Snow, but I don't think that's true. The real lord in silver snow is Byleth. he/she is the one leading the church in Rhea's absence. And in the context of silver snow, Byleth becomes the ruler of Fodlan since the Empire, Kingdom, and alliance are all left with a power vacuum that only the archbishop can fill. Heck, Rhea practically names Byleth archbishop before the time skip.
Thats an even bigger problem since byleth, largely by their nature of being a player insert, is the worst character in the game.
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 I wouldn't go that far. Byleth is a deadpan character much like Shamir and Dedue. And they're great characters. And depending on the support or paralogue Byleth can be more expressive than either of them. I like all the characters in the game, but if I had to pick a "worst character" it would probably be Anna since she doesn't really add anything, has no supports, and is only there as a franchise cameo.
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 they are not supposed to be a character that is your mistake they are an avatar an avatar is it that hard to put yourself on his shoes? if so why?
Seteth is more like a Jagen in this route
@@fakebunny1272 that's the issue, their natute of being an avatar makes them a boring character (as they arent one) so trying to focus the narrative around them makes it less engaging as opposed to the other routes wich wisely chose to center their stories around other character's journies. Having a player avatar works for games like dark souls, where the focus of the narrative is on the world around the avatar, or undertale, where the many many choices you make allow you to insert yourself into the character you play, but for something like three houses where there is a heavy focus on character a player avatar makes the story less engaging due to how few points there are where your decisions actually effect where the story goes.
You also seem to be implying that there is something wrong with me for not being able to insert myself into the avatar. I appologise if this was not your intent, but if it was then i would suggest not taking that approach in future.
I think the issue isn't so much that Silver Snow doesn't have a Lord, or that the "Lord" is Seteth, because it does have a non-Seteth lord: the problem is that it's Byleth, the objectively worse choice for a Lord in 3H. I know we all like to give Corrin shit - and fairly well-deserved at that, don't get me wrong - but Byleth is an even worse choice for a focal Lord than them because of the decision to make them an effectively silent protagonist, with them only being allowed dialogue options that are not allowed to meaningfully impact the story's direction or flow.
I'd actually argue that Seteth, contrary to what you'd argue, isn't a bad character and isn't lacking in potential to make for a decent lead character. He's got a lot going for him, like how he strongly questions Rhea's many decisions and believes their society is backwards in many ways, yet at the same time knows much about her past and actions, and is probably the person she's closest to (outside of Insert Nameleth-kun) If anything, I feel, Silver Snow (and the time skip in general) neuters Seteth - because Rhea is absent and he's forced to be one of the primary voices of concern in trying to find her, he's not allowed to really explore his more contrary opinions about Rhea's decisions in shaping Fodlan like he could.
Horse shit, Corrin actually has a personality and character development. They are an actually lord. The criticism towards Corrin is bullshit
I see that there's some pretty common criticisms between the comments so I hope this addresses people's concerns (these are all just my opinion):
"Silver Snow isn't the secret route. Crimson Flower is the one you have to complete an objective to play"
Sure, but I know most people new to the game expected a route where you assist Edelgard. A Church route is "secret" because a new player would never anticipate it. That's what I meant in the video
"Byleth is the main lord of Silver Snow, not Seteth"
If you feel this way, then what I said about Seteth applies even more so to Byleth. I made fun of Seteth for being a "suburban dad" character, but Byleth rarely speaks at all. For a game that relies on a dramatic narrative, you shouldn't have someone like Byleth be the main focus.
"You rely too much on Rhea's character in Crimson Flower. She lost her mind in that route. She's actually very kind and gave away power in every other route."
I felt it was important to address that side of Rhea, because it's her lowest point. Rhea is normally a kind person, but she clearly has problems when people interfere with her plan to revive her mother. Rhea admits that she has regrets in her S-support with Byleth, and it seems that she may have lost her mind during her original fight against Nemesis (what kind of sane person rubs a bloody sword on their cheek like that?). I feel that something about being held captive in Enbarr may have improved her mindset. Imo, if you're making a route about Rhea, the player needs to be made aware of her flaws and Rhea needs to address those flaws in some manner in order to see true character development. Rhea would still show kindness in this new route (especially after meeting with her mother).
"Why didn't you write it so that Claude/Dimitri/Rhea/Edelgard team up to fight a common enemy?"
This is known as a "Golden Route" and while it's interesting to theorize about, I personally wouldn't want to see it actually implemented. It would make every other route feel worse, and it's also hard to write a dramatic story if everyone just becomes friends in the end.
Ultimately, I'm very new to this UA-cam thing, so I appreciate every bit of positive criticism I get. I'm also amazed by how many people genuinely enjoyed the video. Even though I won't respond to every comment, I have been reading them all up until this point
i feel like verdant winds could have delved more deeply into Claude's backstory as a half almyran imo. Maybe They could have somehow implemented that into the gameplay.
Edit: nvm you already made the video and put Claude's lineage as part of the final boss.
Anyways nice videos! i would love to see a how to fix crimson flower.
The Church route is not an secret route, because you can miss the requirements for CF easily and you can choose for Rhea prior to the time-skip. Silver Snow is the first route, so it's the default and CF is the secret one.
Agreed on Byleth to some extent.
Oh please, stop infantilizing her. That sword is her mother, you would probably do the same if your Mom was turned into one. Also what caused the Dilemma in CF was Byleth's Betrayal and the loss of her Brethren and nothing else. Also what kind of person thinks solidary confinement in a dungeon and being left malnourished for 5 years?
agreed about the last part for that we have CS and that's enough.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 That's... actually pretty concerning. If you would rub the bloody bones of your dead mom on your cheek after BRUTALLY murdering the person who killed her, I think that you should seek help.
@@guydee3821 Well she missed her and I think most humans would have done the same. She does need Therapy though.
Personally I'd love to see a remake of 3H with the existing routes improved - particularly Silver Snow and Crimson Flower, and Silver Snow in pretty much exactly the way you described, and then a masterfully written golden route that is _only_ accessible after completing all the other routes and is based on the concept of Byleth and Sothis rewinding time to the beginning of White Clouds to try and fix things, preferably countless attempts down the line, and possibly with its own extremely unhappy ending (like everyone unites, but it's too late and they almost get completely wiped out by TWSITD) that then leads into another New Game+ where it is not just Byleth and Sothis who go back but also someone else such as Edelgard or Rhea and then and only then do you get your golden route happy ending. That would be my Three Houses remake.
Another thing that would have been cool is that if you go silver snow, you're only guaranteed the church units. Byleth would need to have a B-rank support with their students for them to immediately join you. If you had a C-rank, you'd have to defeat them in battle with Byleth before recruiting them and if you didn't support them at all, you've got no choice but to kill them.
This was a really good video! I have 235 hours in three houses (I've played all the routes) and silver snow was my least favorite for sure. It honestly felt pretty bland and there was so much more potential as you pointed out in the video. There were still elements I enjoyed don't get me wrong, however my biggest gripe with SS was that Rhea wasn't really explored all too much and that she wasn't a playable unit, I think that was a HUGE missed opportunity imo. Seteth is still a good character, he just felt very forced as a "lord". These changes I feel would have made the route so much more better and enjoyable. I really enjoyed the video and would definitely want to see more of whatever you put out. Keep up the good work man :)
As far as Rhea's low point as a Lord, I feel this idea doesn't quite manage to tie into Rhea's greatest flaw in the game - her faith-inspired passivity. Fodlan's deterioration pre-war is largely facilitated by Rhea only doing the bare minimum actions required to keep the status quo, trusting that Sothis would eventually return and fix everything. This can actually be explored with this idea without much change. Instead of calmly telling Rhea that the Nabateans were meant to guard Fodlan in Sothis's absence, Sothis can just be her snarky gremlin self and scold Seiros for being a selfish girl and forsaking all the responsibility she took upon herself when becoming Archbishop. This could parallel Rodrigue's role in AM, snapping Seiros out of her flawed line of thinking and forcing her to rethink her life and acknowledge her own failings. With the added bonus of the therapy god who achieves this being the actual Progenitor God, as opposed to the divine revenant known as Byleth. This even opens up a possibility for a nice moment in the ending to contrast with the opening. After beating Nemesis again, this reinvigorated Seiros would not kneel with her mother's remains near a puddle of blood, but would instead stand tall amidst the people she's finally ready to lead.
Edit: Actually, there could be an even more direct frame-for-frame reversal. Instead of the Imperial troops in the light triumphantly brandishing their weapons and Seiros kneeling and muttering, we can have Seiros triumphantly raising her sword in the light as Nemesis's army crumbles to dust, and the knights kneeling as she loudly announces victory.
I LOVE your version of Silver snow. That sounds like an incredible fourth route!
"adult sothis" //nagi appears//
well done lmao, when i tell u i lost it at that part...
dunno if I've commented this before but seteth joining your army without the level to use his own damn lance is funny af
The church route could have been a chance to highlight some of the similarities between Edelgard and Nemesis as well as give Rhea a chance to basically do the War of Heroes over again to make up for the mistakes of her past.
You could start the route the same with Byleth, their students, and the Knights of Seiros meeting up at the monastery. The Knights reveal that they have spent the past five years largely staying out of the conflict and searching for Rhea and they beseech Byleth to do the same. The former students aren't very happy that they won't be fighting the Empire, but ultimately they go along with their professor. Randolph's army still has to be repelled from Garreg Mach and the Church still clashes with the Empire, but the aim is not to liberate conquered territories or anything like that. Rather, the objective is determining Rhea's location and discovering just how deeply entangled TWSITD and the Empire have become.
By the time Grondor rolls around, both the Kingdom and Alliance armies are asking the Church for help in the coming battle. At the same time, the Knights learn that Rhea is being held in a TWSITD-controlled facility. The Church refuses to help either side and instead goes to rescue Rhea. Once Rhea is free, she is mortified to learn that her life was given higher priority than the people of Fodlan. Rhea has come to learn the part her lies have played in leading up to the war and has decided it is time for her to atone. She once again leads the people of Fodlan into battle, this time not to satisfy her own revenge, but to fulfill her duty to the people she has failed. She dons the armor of Seiros, Seteth and Flayn reveal their true identities, and perhaps at some point Macuil and Indech are persuaded to join the cause. Together, they create a united front against the Empire, welcoming true believers of the faith into their ranks as well as what remains of the Kingdom and Alliance army.
The new Church army approaches Enbarr through the old Kingdom territory rather than across Myrddin and through Grondor like the other routes, giving the opportunity for some new maps or at least the chance to reuse some different ones. Everything from Fort Merceus onwards proceeds roughly the same. Enbarr is taken and Edelgard is defeated, but not before TWSITD are able to escape. The Church gets Hubert's letter and it's pretty much the current VW ending from there. Perhaps Macuil tanks the nukes at Shambhala instead of Rhea so that she's still at full strength for the Nemesis fight.
Once Nemesis is defeated and the true history of Fodlan is at last revealed, the Nabateans depart for a distant land, leaving Fodlan in the hands of Byleth and the humans. After all, if Sothis can entrust her power to a (mostly) human like Byleth, then perhaps it is also time for Rhea to at last leave Fodlan's destiny in the hands of its people.
Just finding your content now, really interesting thoughts! One problem you didn't address is how the first half of the route is spent developing the black eagles. If Silver Snow ended up being DLC (like other commenters suggested), Byleth could be presented the "I'd rather join the knights" option in chapter 1 and Jeritza takes over the Black Eagles as professor. You'd have to rework chapter 1, but literally every other pre-timeskip level could play the same. Your initial character pool is Gilbert, Jeralt, Seteth, Catherine, Shamir, Alois, Cyril and Jeritza (or Rhea) to make it 8.
lmao EVIL DISEASE, and also I would defintely play your ver. of SS man it would definitely fix the route. And yeah i also have to say i also to just played SS to get Funeral of Flowers its probably my fav tracks along side God-Shattering Star.
I think SS should have been, A: a unified path with the Kingdom, Alliance, and Empire deserters working together or B: a full-blown Church route like you said, and I think the Black Eagle students will only join you if they have a C or B support with Byleth, but you will also have the option to spare them.
I never played Sliver Snow, but I'm gonna pretend this is what went down. Sounds a lot better than what actually happens
I’m just laughing through the pain with this. Like damn the POTENTIAL in Silver Snow is insane but what we actually got is, like you said, a cheap rip-off of Verdant Wind
To address your confusion regarding Rhea's madness: contrary to popular belief, all fire emblem games do in fact occur in the same timeline. Therefore, dragons that don't seal their power into dragonstones and become manaketes go insane due to the planet being harmful to dragons. This is established all the way back in fe2 with Mila and Duma. There are a number of ways to explain why her and the other nabataeans may be unaware of this fact, but since they clearly originated in the Nabata desert before coming to Fodlan, which was long after the Scouring, it seems realistic that the knowledge may just be lost to time. It may even be that Sothis came to Fodlan to escape the Scouring, or that she was one of the divine dragons sent by Ashunera to colonize the new continents after radiant dawn. I'd like to see an hour long video where you discuss the timeline in full. Great stuff man.
Crimson flower is actually the one who’s the secret route with silver snow being the actual normal route (since you need many requirement to even unlock CF, while SS is always possible if you choose Edelgard)
“But that plan doesn’t really vibe with Dimitri’s thought process” yeah that sums up the first half of part 2 AM
I think Rhea could still be an appropriate boss. Instead of using her evil disease as a random excuse, they could make her grief over losing Sothis be the cause.
During Chapter 1, when you visit the Holy Tomb, we know that Rhea was expecting Sothis to reappear. In the Black Eagles route, this would be the perfect moment for Rhea to lose control of her emotions; perhaps she lashes out at the professor in frustration, only regaining control of herself when the Flame Emperor arrives, providing an immediate threat. This then makes the decision of whether or not to side with Edelgard more interesting; both Edelgard and Rhea are clearly flawed, but acting for sympathetic reasons.
Chapter 2 can continue mostly as normal, but this time when the player rescues Rhea from Enbarr, she barely responds. 5 years of imprisonment and torture at the hands of the Empire have left her broken, mentally and physically. Recuperating at the monastery, she doesn't join the player in Shambala. Though Thales is defeated, he launches spears of light at Garreg Mach. Though Sothis' protection keeps the monastery itself safe, nearby areas are obliterated.
When the player returns to the monastery, Rhea finally snaps. She blames the player for the destruction, her deprived mental state making her believe the professor simply allowed this to happen. She claims the professor doesn't care about her, thinking they simply let her rot away in Enbarr for five years, and refusing to hear the truth. Most importantly, she blames the professor for preventing the return of Sothis. Following this, Rhea transforms into the Immaculate One and vows to rip the crest stone out of Byleth's heart and begin anew. At this point, Seteth acknowledges her madness and regretfully admits that she must be defeated, or Fodlan will be in danger. The following battle is immensely tragic; not simply because you're fighting Rhea, but because you can understand her pain.
Also Seteth seriously deserves a personal class. He's LITERALLY Saint Cichol, you can't get much more special than that.
I would play your version of silver snow in a heartbeat.
“Is there anyone else she can fight?”
I saw Nemesis coming and I loved it lol
Damn this was a great ass video good jokes,great ideas that are totally possible considering the Assets the game already has. That’s a subscribe in my book
Also this would be a great opportunity to give Some more supports for Rhea with the other instead people just fucking about her the whole damn game
Oh wow, making Nemesis as the final boss of Silver Snow makes so much sense that it is crazy it isn't already that way.
5:28 This is LITERALLY what happened to me the first time I played this game lmfao
This was my first route and I loved many sections, Edelgard is great before the betrayal. And Petra, Dorothea, Seteh, Caspar, Bernadetta are all fun characters. Even Ferdinand grows on you because of his hatred toward Edelgard. You spot on with the lack of playable Rhea, the ending that came out nowhere and the lack of lord.
Reunion at Dawn should have been a rescue Rhea mission so she can join after it, say she’s being transported from the empire to meet Arundel - she then joins but like Dimitri she is broken, she is devastated and full of rage and hate and like in other routes Byleth helps them heal, Byleth like in other routes is the warm sun, they melt away the ice encasing Rhea’s heart
Honestly, I’d play this Silver Snow. Also, after beating Silver Snow, you could get the Funeral of Flowers music, since there’s really no place for it in the game.
I really liked you’re rewrite of silver snow I would love to play you’re version of silver snow it makes way more sense and makes the route less of a hell hole
Secret Church Route? I accidentally did that one over Edelgards. Proud to say I did Dimitris route
I like how he called the Silver Snow version the secret route and not Crimson Flower
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Rhea deserves better, frankly it would have really helped with the themes of the story if the divide of the route meant we would know Rhea at her best or her worst.
Still salty there is no support between the two babies units of the church (Flayn and Cyril).
Your ideas are so good that I want to write or read a 12+ chapter fanfic using it as a base for it.
Personally I’d start the route sooner. Have Byleth refuse the teaching position. As Rhea does not want him to leave, instead enlists into the knights. Still have Edelgard be important to the route. Also make recruiting students be both more important and explained as field experience for them.
Those changes you made, were amazing! And O totally agree that the fire thing at the monastery is definitely a Claude thing and I actually didn’t know about it until I got Verdant Wind because in Azure Moon, I didn’t get the Chirch soldier to get to the location with him dying. 😂😂😂
ok this is absolutely perfect here's my sub
now brb imma binge the rest of your vids
So I was one of the people who got suckered into playing this route instead of Crimson Flower on my first run and I’m still mad about it
Literally if silver snow played out like this this would literally be the best route. Great thinking!
Hold on. Isn't Byleth supposed to be the lord in Silver Snow and Seteth and Flayn are just your Dedues/Huberts/Hildas?
I feel like seteth struggles as a important character cause both his motivations are fairly grounded and normal(keep flayn safe mainly) and he does not have any "character flaw" that can be used for development in the narrative,which ends up with the 2 main characters in the route being someone who is silent as fuck(byleth) and someone who can't go through a character arc/or have any grand ambition/dream because he's just not that type of person(seteth).
Jesus how does a youtuber come up with a better story than the people hired to make the game lol this was awesome
This is a super cool video, I would've loved to see playable Rhea
8:39 Basically Rhea will be this games' Jagen. A role initially intended for Jeralt.
They fixed the Church route by getting rid of it all together in Three Hopes XD
Here's a few ideas i have to improve Silver Snow:
- If you own the Cindered Shadows DLC, Aelfric will join your army in chapter 13 just like Jeritza does in Crimson Flower. He start as a Warlock and has supports with Byleth, Rhea, Seteth, Flayn, Alois and the Ashen Wolves.He also has a paralogue with Rhea. He would be a great replacement for Hubert and his presence in this route would be a great opportunity to explore his character. In other routes, he would play a minor role off-screen in other routes and be here because he want to find Rhea.
- All the Black Eagles students leave you're army after chapter 13 and are replaced by the members of the church of Seiros if you didn't already recruted them. You can recruit back you're students trough the route (exemples: Ferdinand on the bridge of Myrddin, Caspar during the siege of Garreg Mach, Petra in Enbarr...) by talking to them on the battlefield with Byleth.
Silver Snow is just that route I accidentally got after trying to stan Edlegard for an entire playthrough without realizing I was supposed to talk to her. And because I thought resetting the game would scrap my New Game Plus status, I slogged through the entire thing, wanting it to end every second of its runtime (give or take the final boss, which was by far the most challenging. I did appreciate that).
Silver Snow is great if you want to play only one run.
im a game developer and writer, and I do actually agree with the majority of your points. id love to hear your take on crimson flower as well tbh
I’d love them to make a persona 4 golden / 5 royal style expansion to this game and re release it with a better church route and longer edelgard route and maybe some extra white clouds content to differentiate it between each play through. Oh and playable Rhea/Judith
I completely agree on these points on Silver Snow. A while back I was also thinking of possible story differences to better differentiate SS and Verdant Wind. I will admit, these story changes mostly changed the story past the Great Bridge of Myrddin. Here was what I had thought up:
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Silver Snow:
The first main difference that I had thought up for Silver Snow would be with the assault of Fort Merceus. In this idea, the only person who conducts a sneak attack on Fort Merceus is Claude. A sneak attack really isn't something the Church is known to do (aside from in Crimson flower, where Flayn takes part on an ambush on the assault of Gareg Mach). I feel the Church would be far more likely perform a siege of the fort (probably nothing as direct as Dmitri did, storming through the center and all). However, this key change in the story is what will diverge SS and VW in their paths. As the Church conducts a more direct assault that can be seen from a mile away, TWSITD are able to easily learn of the Church's route of action. As such, they have ample time to prepare their javelin of light (or whatever the technical term for it was). Fort Merceus is destroyed, the assault on Enbarr goes the same, Edelgard is defeated, and Hubert learns of TWISTD, and the assault of Shambalah goes the same. As seen in the normal route, the self-destruction of Shambalah weakens Rhea, but instead of making her go sicko mode, Nemesis reawakens and takes the opportunity to hunt Rhea down. Hearing of Nemesis' revival, Rhea can't help but spill the truth similarly to how she did in VW, and her trauma from the past resurfaces. She urges Byleth that they must defeat Nemesis to fix the mistakes of the past and defeat the dark past that looms over Fodlan. This story could work with Rhea being a unit herself, or finding herself too weak to fight in the final battle.
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Verdant Wind:
Before anything else, I would like to say that in Verdant Wind, Claude achieve's his goals, tearing down the borders and prejudices between Fodlan and the outside world, by the time they attack Merceus, with the whole little stunt between him and the Almyrans. This event will stay, however the story must challenge Claude's ideals, that Fodlan can coexist with their neighbors. I will get back to this point, later in this part. Alright, now onto the story changes. First, because this should've already been in the base game, when you meet with Judith, instead of just joining you in the monastery, she joins your team as this route's version of Gilbert/Jeritza. The next change goes to fort Merceus, where Claude's sneak attack on Merceus had taken TWISTD by surprise, leading to them being unable to prepare a Javelin of light in time to strike the fort. As a result, Hubert never learns of Shambalah, and upon defeating Edelgard, it seems everything has come to an end. However, seeing all of his carefully laid out plans fail, Thales grows impatient and attempts to strike once more. Tales takes notice of the returning Almyran army led by the King of Almyra itself, and leads TWSITD to stage a coup on the army. Their plan goes without fail, and Nader is overthrown, either killed, abducted, or something else. Using his magic, Thales disguises himself as Nader, and continues to lead the army. As such, he is able to control the Almyrans to invade the Alliance. Upon Byleth and Claude's journey back to Gareg Mach, messengers arrive that Derdriu has been overcome by hostile Almyran forces. Claude is absolutely shocked that his closest ally, his father, has betrayed him, and starts to doubt if Fodlan and the outside world can truly cooperate. As such, the chapter after defeating edelgard would then take place in Derdriu rather than Shambalah. In Derdriu, Claude and Byleth would find themselves fighting Almyran Wyvern lords and Titanus units led by Thales, disguised as Nader. Reinforcements would arrive from the West, led by Cornelia herself, who was able to completely cement her control over the Kingdom of Faerghus as a result of the remainder of Dmitri's loyalists dying from the Blood of the Eagle and Lion. The goal of this map would be to defeat all of the commanders, which would be both Cornelia and "Nader." When fighting Nader, Claude takes notice to his "father" using a completely foreign fighting style, wielding dark magic and agarthan weapons. When speaking to "Nader" through battle conversations, he sounds far more serious and aggressive than his usual tone. Defeating Nader will bring him to retreat back to Fodlan's locket. Upon speaking with Rhea, Claude mention's how his father seemed like a completely different man then he knew, and Rhea quickly recognizes that TWSITD are behind these attacks. Rhea flips out and goes into her rage mode, turning into her dragon form, determined to end TWSITD once and for all, even if that means massacring TWSITD's Almyran "allies". As the attack on Shambalah never occured, she still has plenty of strength to do this. Claude recognizes that if Rhea commits such an atrocity, his grand ambitions will be forever shattered. As such, he convinces everyone that they must intervene in the conflict. The final chapter will then take place on a larger version Fodlan's locket, in which you must fight two parties, rage-induced Rhea and her army of White Beasts and Knights to the west, and "Nader" and his following of TWSITD generals, Titanus', and Almyran Wyvern riders to the East. Both sides will be attempting to cross Fodlan's locket, and your job is to put a stop to both Generals, "Nader" and the Immaculate One. Upon succeding, the final cutscene plays, in which you see Byleth defeating Rhea and proclaiming new leadership over the Church, while Claude kills Nader-Thales, leading himself to succeed as the new King of Almyra. Both new leaders command their men to stand down, and Byleth and Claude end by shaking hands, as Claude proclaims how "A new dawn is upon the world."
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There is my take, feel free to ask for any details I may have missed, or comment your thoughts!
Your Idea is not Good. Claude is right about people having to coexist, you don't and should challenge that. That's like challenging the idea of making Friends in your life.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 What are you even arguing about? You are saying that Claude is right in trying to establish coexistence, which I am in no way disputing. Though in a story, especially in Fire Emblem story telling, the main characters face difficulties along that path. All I'm saying is that the conflict should be far more central to Claude's ambitions.
Someone show this to Nintendo, I just wanna play with Rhea
I think the "hero" of this path is meant to be Byleth in a solo position with Seteth as their lancer. It still doesn't work, because while Byleth is interesting imo they're meant to be more of a guiding presence: they help Edelgard retain her humanity, they pull Dimitri out of the abyss, they encourage Claude to be more than The Trickster. In SS they're suddenly shoved into a leadership position and this COULD be more interesting if the overall feel wasn't so bleak and Seteth did more than spout exposition.
I wonder if Rhea wasn't made playable because she might end up TOO broken. She IS a dragon and she can fight back easily on Ashe and Catherine's paralogue if she gets attacked, and as Seiros she has a sword and shield with stat benefits named for her. Playing as her might make the route TOO easy.
Finally, the idea of Seiros vs Nemesis is awesome. Except I wouldn't remove Nemesis from Verdant Wind because that epic shounen style final battle is perfection.
Edelgard not retain her humanity in CF....she is The same un The 4 routes.
Byleth don't save Dimitri in BL, that is Rodríge and his sacrifice....
Byleth not help them at all, he/she only did The dirty work.
And subscribed. Really hoping to see videos on those topics you mentioned if enough people ask
Rhea really deserved a happy ending in Silver Snow
I accidentally got locked into silver snow as well, which was a shame since I thought the game changing moment would be implimented into the story- I thought of the holy tome, I assumed Edelgard would put the player to the test and reveal her identity before the map and make the mc pick a side; I went in blind after verdant wind so I was aware she was the flame emperor and didn't know I had to do certain things; I was to busy trying to recuit every student lmao
Here's a list of supports Rhea could have add if she was playable and what those would have dealt with:;
- Bylelth M & F (already in the base game)
- Seteth (Seteth reasure Rhea and tell her that he will be at her side until he dies and that she isn't as lonely as she thinks she is)
- Flayn (Same than Seteth)
- Catherine (Catherine explain why she stayed loyal to Rhea and the church and not her friend Christophe and homeland)
- Cyril (Why Cyril is so loyal to Rhea and is grateful for everything she did for him
- Marianne (Rhea reasure Marianne and make her feel better about herself)
- Mercedes (They discuss about piety and the importance the Church has for Fodlan)
- Ferdinand/Hanemann (not sure who would fit better for this one) (They discuss Edelgard's motives and Rhea understand Edelgard better)
- Linhardt (Rhea learn from Linhardt to chill and appreciate smaller things, similar to Lindhardt support with Hubert)
A few things it seems that you took a lot of Rhea's characterization from CF and that's a mistake since she was literally driven to insanity in that route. The whole thing about Rhea is that she tends to choose the option that actually sacrifices the least lives.
I think the best way to enjoy the routes is, if you view them as alternative timelines and not as overarching plot at all.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 in a sense that works but in some ways it doesn't.
@@brightlight8852 Yeah, some Infos are needed from other routes to understand what is going on.
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 True here's a fun fact. In the Japanese version the names for the 4 routes is different. Silver Snow is "Empire" route, Azure Moon is the "Just King" or "True King", Verdant Wind is "Truth", and Crimson Flower is "Conquest" or "Supreme Military Rule". I think it better highlights what the routes are about.
@@brightlight8852 Really interesting? Is there an translation of that script or where does it come from? Form the Japanese version?
Hell, if Rhea being in jail works for the other routes, have the third chapter of SS be a top secret jailbreak and escape mission. You can make it have timed reinforcements, any of the stops. After that mission, you have Rhea unlocked
Flames. Absolute flames my boi
In regards to the endings of VW and SS, even if the start of the routes were the same, Claude fighting Nemesis is an awesome battle with God-Shattering music, but it doesn’t fit with his story at all.
After the battle at the Imperial Castle, Claude and Byleth and crew go to Shambhala, but Shambhala is now 3 chapters instead of 1. The final blow against Thales kills him, and he never triggers the pillars of light. After defeating Thales, Claude descends deeper into the Underground City, he learns more about TWISTD’s hand in shaping the continent of Fodlan. How TWISTD played puppeteer in sowing seeds of distrust within the nation and between Fodlan and the other continents. In the darkest shadows of the City he meets the true mastermind. He conjures up reanimated corpses of the TWISTD members you’ve already faces: Kronya, Solon, Cornelia, Arundel and/or Thales who are commanding a regiment of the most powerful demonic beasts. Once they are defeated you can finally confront Oroni. He has been alive since the very beginning. He was the one who persuaded Nemesis to turn against the Nabateans.
In Silver Snow you go to Shambhala, which proceeds as in the normal game. Thales is defeated, but with his dying breath activates the pillars of light. Rhea transforms into her dragon form, and is able to alleviate some of the damage, but not without cost to Rhea herself. Rhea is severely wounded. The pain triggers the same pain she felt when her mother died. In a berserk rage, she re-transforms and the blood in her reacts, it triggers those with her blood to also react and transform into white dragons. Like bees they fly to protect their queen and the final chapter of Silver Snow in the ruins of Shambhala vs Rhea. Byleth manages to subdue Rhea, but the madness persists, without any hope of restoring her to sanity, Byleth gives her a merciful death. However, if Rhea and Byleth have an A support, upon hearing Byleth’s voice, she will be reminded of Sothis and regain her sanity. Regardless, both battles weaken the chains on an iron cage in Shambhala. Out steps... Nemesis. Back at the monastery, either mourning Rhea’s death or celebrating their victory in Shambhala. The Church hears word of an army of the undead making there way to Zanado. Reports are that the leader wields the Sword of the Creator. Rhea instantly knows who it is, and steads herself to battle at the bemoan of Seteth, Katherine, Cyril and Flayn. Whether vanilla 3H or your version, Rhea joins as a playable unit if alive and the rematch against Nemesis commences at the Red Canyon.
i just get really excited to listen your version and imagine it 😌❤️
I actually don’t mind watching Edelgard’s coronation during Ch. 11 ending the explore early, because it makes sense that going out to the Empire would take a few days. What I don’t understand is why there isn’t a bit of dialogue after saying yes to Edelgard where she’s like, “Oh, if you have something to do right now we can go later, as long as it’s still today, just make it fast,” and then there’s a pop-up letting you back out, but you can come back later when you’re finished with everything to watch the coronation cutscene.
This is really good! I really like how you made Rhea her alter ego to hide from her shame of failing to protect the Nabateans from TWSITD, and the adult Sothis appearing to Seiros/Rhea in the darkness of Zahras, though how would Seiros/Rhea get out of the darkness, when it took a fusion of Byleth and Sothis to break out of it? I especially love you having Nemesis be the final boss of SS, it would be so epic to see another fight between Seiros and Nemesis. The only thing I would change is Rhea’s gimmick in Chapter 14. Unless absolutely enraged and insane, Rhea doesn’t have the mindset of sacrificing everything for the “greater good”, she demonstrates that on the timeskip routes besides CF, she tries to sacrifice herself so Byleth and the rest of the people at Garreg Mach could retreat. I think it would be better for there to be some sort of Nabatean traps set up in the town, like Indech’s Phantom Soldiers, that would distract Randolph while Byleth and Rhea attack his exposed flank.
If this was the actual cannon silver Snow I would like Rhea more as an character
late to responding, but the fact that rhea changed her name to seiros during the war of heroes appears during the huge lore dump near the end of vw. she says something like, "i called myself seiros, and killed nemesis on the tailtean plains." its very vague, but its implied here
That Rhea Seteth image at the end was too funny
Yeah tbh I think they should have done it like Fates where you choose which path (church or edelgard) right in that moment, that way nothing is missed and it seems so much smoother
Rhea really deserves being the main protagonist in church route i would loved this storyline more instead but it feels like IS barley tried on some points since Rhea is missing through out the paths sucks
Also here is some Criticism:
1. Byleth is the main Lord, not Seteth.
2. Seteth has always been shown to have misgivings with the Nobility and also is very different from others. He isn't for the status quo at all.
3. Silver Snow also provides the player with an Challenge and that can be a good reason to play that route.
4. Also the people worship Sothis, not Seiros.
5. Also Rhea does interact with the player and Rhea is the one, who brought you to the academy, so she is important to the plot, except maybe in AM.
6. Seteth has the Crest of Cichol and the ability to prevent Counterattacks during combat arts.
7. She was the youngest Child of Sothis during that time and she herself said that she called herself Seiros, so Rhea is her true Identity.
8. You use CF Rhea too much.
I wish this is how Silver snow played out in game
My idea for Silver Snow is that it should have been the "good" ending, where everyone gets to live, or at the very least gets to resolve their character arc before dying. I also think it should be a hidden route. To do that I think Edelgard's coronation should be mandatory for both routes, and then when Edelgard is revealed to be the Flame Emperor she assumes that Byleth was aware and had betrayed the church unless you have Rhea's B support, in which she'll believe you if you tell her you didn't know
The route would begin in a similar tone to Dimitri's, only with Rhea this time. This would change, though, when Edelgard tries to destroy your army's morale by revealing everything she thinks she knows about the church, both the true things like how Rhea is an immortal dragon who has been suppressing progress for over a millenia, and the false things like blaming Rhea for the rebellions that lead to the formation of Faergus and the Alliance. This would cause many people to lose faith in her and Rhea would get more and more agressive until she finally comes to realize that her hiding so much is what has caused Edelgard to believe what TWSTD have told her and eventually she's able to reach a truce with the Empire in order to storm Shambhala and to kill Thales and Nemesis. Also Dimitri learns the truth about Duscur and is able to get some amount of closure, maybe he makes a heroic sacrifice, and Rhea, as part of the terms of her truce with Edelgard, has to step down as archbishop and fly off into the sunset
I think there is evidence to say that Rhea is her real name. In the cutscene at the end of VW, Rhea says "I called myself Seiros, fostered the founding of the Empire and prepared to oppose Nemesis and his followers..." She says this right after she talks about being the only survivor of Zanado, which implies she changed her name right after that for a brief time. Though I much prefer your idea of making Seiros her real name instead.
Dang I'm trying o make similar videos and I wish they would take off like this. Congrats man!
I loved your Lego example, a true art form.
I thought Silversnow was about Byleth becoming the Lord instead of guiding the Lord, and Seth was supposed be Byleth's Obi Wan.