Lmfao. I literally just commented the same exact thing yesterday, on another one of his vids! 😂 It’s crazy how all the clout and recognition goes to these other guys w/ nothing but same repetetive content *OR* straight up subtle, yet obvious advertising for a bunch of products similar to things/stuff most of us already have, yet my man over here can’t even get 100K likes? This guy actually has variety and always something new and random, as well as almost a vid covering most firearms out there, w/ actual example to 1st person demonstrate every detail to us. Not to mention all the vintage scopes, mods, and accessories he owns and covers in addition to his usual content.
It is a real pleasure to hear honest opinion without the cursing and nonsense. What a gentleman. I own a cz 223 and am looking to pick up a Mini in 7.62x39 in a vastava.
I think these rifles are just the ticket for young shooters. I am 6’6 and love them as well they are a real joy to carry and in Texas where I live they are plenty of gun for the game I Typically run in too.
Hi Josh - Thank you for the good words! I like the CZ very much - such a handy, accurate and not-too-fancy rifle. I seem to reach for it often - a practical and reliable rifle. Good shooting! - Mike
The CZ-527 was, apparently, discontinued a few days ago. I suppose the Zastava Mk.85 will have a renewed relevance in the wake of the former's absence. I'm glad to hear Zastava's quality is generally good. Lately, my consumer confidence has been a bit shaken by the rising prices and unclear quality standards, across the board.
The second rifle you'r shownig has the BEST sport action EVER.!!! It's a FN "Supreme" Mauser action.!!! Period.!!! (I know, I'm the happy owner of several of those). Kudus to you, for your fantastic good work on these videos.
I have two 527s; one chambered in .22 K Hornet and the other in standard Hornet. Both are tack drivers. I have also a 550 fs in 6.5 Swede. They are all beautiful, European drop comb rifles. All are equipped with New England aperture rear sights. Thanks for all of your content!
I figured you were a shop owner, and I very much appreciate the effort you put into the channels buying the guns. I love that zastava with the mannlicher style stock, also I love the mini action. Might have to work more overtime than I usually do so I can get myself one. Thank you for all your efforts
Quick question: do you think zastava is an under appreciated manufacturer? Nobody ever talks about them on UA-cam, but with German tooling they created possibly the best Mauser rifles of all time.
Dramatically under appreciated - it is a privilege to own the Zastava 98 and the Mini 98 - these rifles are far above the plastic/composite and other materials rifles made in the West. Serbia stuck with the right way to make firearms - so far anyway. I'm buying another Zastava Mini 98 asap.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns As I noted on your Zastava 98 video, my experience with the brand is positive. I would have liked to have seen more focus on that very nice looking stock on the Mini 98, it looks very well sculpted and finished.
I own a Zastava M70( m98 ) in 6.5x55 Sweede it's a tack drive and you CANNOT BEAT A MAUSER ACTION Rifle ! Period , reliable , smooth and well balanced . I'm in market for one in .22 , 22-250 and just purchased one in .243 . I may look at one in larger Caliber yet , I'll say this Savage , Remington and few other need wake up cause to buy a rifle with no plastic that's all steel and wood for same price of a Savage Axis or Remington 783 or even Ruger American with plastic parts and pot metal parts, I'll take the Zastava anyway and everyday .
That is an excellent idea. People should write the factory - they would listen if enough people wrote. I remember a company had a limited edition 98K - they sold out right away. Thanks for writing.
Or just buy a milsurp Yugo M48. Made by Zastava, and refurbished by Zastava every 10 years as they were kept in Yugo military storage. Many of them are in "like new" condition.
I have never handled a Zastava mini-Mauser but I have a CZ527 chambered for .223, which I am now so glad I bought it while it was available. I cannot find anything negative to say about the CZ527. I wish I had got one in 300 Blk and use it for plinking with cast bullets and suppressor.
Mike, thank you for working the action! I was concerned it was a stage prop with a nice shiny stock and really didn't work! Now I can rest easy knowing it is real! Great video!!!! :-)
I have an m70 ( Mauser 98) with a synthetic stock in .270. Glass bedded and suppressed, Millett angle loc rings, sig sauer scope 3-9x40. In load development, the most precise load shot 14mm @100m. The load I selected shot 19mm at 100m, but was at the top end of the ADI book powder loads. No pressure signs though. Honestly I didn't know I shot that good, but it was repeatable, so it wasn't a fluke. Longest shot taken, 270 metres, 9 point red stag.
Another very informative, interesting and insightful video of MINI actions whether Mauser or others which are usually a variation of a Mauser action.😉👍😁
Great video. I really enjoy the 527, and just picked up another today in 7.62x39. There are several rifles I have bought after watching your channel. Guess I can't double purpose your definition of a Channel Rifle since I just like to keep them!!
I own and have owned several of the wonderful CZ 527 and cannot understand their decision to end its production. I will check out the Zastava for sure.
Another GREAT VIDEO about mini actions Mauser and Howa 1500 which NOW I have BOTH!! I've had the very NICE CZ527 which is a beautiful handy carbine in 7.62X39 which is a pleasure to shoot (doesn't beat me up, I'm 72)!!! I recently picked up another NEAT MINI action rifle that supposedly was USED butt I say it doesn't look like it. I was looking around at BassPro shop's used gun section and saw 2 good-looking rifles being curious type I checked to see what caliber and PRICE. They were both Weatherby Vanguard Camillas, one was 243 Winchester and the other was 7mm08, both were $449.99 which I thought was a GOOD PRICE especially since they looked BRAND NEW to me!! I didn't know much about that particular model but was well acquainted with WEATHERBY as a VERY GOOD BRAND!!! Well did a little research and found out that they were Howa 1500 actions and they were kind of a DELUXE MODEL of the Weatherby Vanguard and it was meant for people of small stature like myself (women and youngsters) but I don't care who it was meant for, I LIKED IT!!! I guess that's why it was in those 2 calibers, both noted for light recoil!!! I chose the 243 because that caliber is a lot more prevalent than 7mm08 even though that's a GREAT CALIBER (7mm Mauser's little brother)!! Walmart carries 6-7 different loadings and manufacturers than almost any other caliber and they got some of the BEST PRICES on ammo!!! They have NO 7mm08 ammo at all!!!😮😢 So that kind of cinched it for me for my pick plus LESS RECOIL!!!😂😊 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GREAT INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE VIDEOS, KEEP IT UP, SIR!!😊😊😊
I have a Zastava 300 win mag that is awesome. I bought a Zastava .22 and it looks awesome, but rarely extracts a shell, especially if it is still live. Any thoughts on this? This channel is awesome but you keep calling my favourite youtube channel boring ;). You gave me enough knowledge and confidence to check out husquevarna, bsa, kriko, and now you got me appreciating post 64 model 70's...
A vintage Lyman Aaskan would be ideal for that little Zastava. 2.5 or 3x would be plenty for that ammunition as well. There are a slew of small scopes being used on AR-15s as well. I have a little SightMark 4x32 on an M4 clone that would also work well on them.
Those Lyman Alaskans are pricey. It always intrests me. I just bought a Mauser with a Lyman micrometer sight and I love it, I may need to get more for my other rifles
Learned so much about so many differant rifles im like a walking gun collectors guide compared to my hunting buddies from watching this chanel great info and smart guy keep up the good work !
Thanks for sharing these short actions. I have a short action for a Serbian M24 rifle made in Zastava. Seems the company has a long history with shorter rifles.
FYI, that little Howa is great when placed in a MDT LSS chassis. I know, this is a little bit towards the tactical and non-traditional sense, but I must say it is a pleasure to shoot 7.62x39 in a setup that mimics a large precision rifle and simply focus on the act of shooting, not the accumulated cost. Even with surplus, I have had good success of ~2.5" at 200 yards. If you do select the 1500 Mini for this use, I would recommend the bull barrel, as my early pencil model shows heat stringing. Remember to carry amonia or boiling hot water for post shoot cleaning at the range if using mercury sulfide based primers, as found in milsurp. Oddly, I have been staring at Zastava models for a few weeks now, trying to find a particular elusive stainless model for a long-term project. Might have to add that 7.62x39 small action to the x39 bolt collection.
Really nice grain on the factory stocks. This old ham really enjoyed hearing you pronounce CZ as See Zed. Those are the last two characters of my callsign. 73, Kilo Foxtrot Six Charlie Zulu.
I watch and appreciate your videos, very informative. I'd like to see a video on you and a little of your background. You have an amazing understanding and knowledge of firearms and it would be interesting to see what life experiences brought you to all this experience.
I really liked that Mini Mauser action. That would accommodate an idea I’ve had. I want to make a 6.5 WSSM with a 40 or 35 degree shoulder. Just to push the shoulder forward for a little more capacity. No, you’re right about more sleek optics. The post WW2 German made Nickel Supra is a slim, very clear and bright scope. It has a 27mm tube that required shims back then. My fathers Pre 64 Model 70 has one.
Such an under appreciated channel. Where else can I find 5 rifles disassembled and videos like this and compared slowly? Perfect complement to Forgotten weapons.
I’ve got (what’s probably) a stupid question, but...are all 'mini' Mauser actions Cock-On-Open? I’m very interested in finding out which is easier to operate between the two: C.O.Close or C.On Open? Great video, thanks very much for sharing.
Good morning Mike, after watching the first video a week ago on the Zastava Mauser rifles, I found one in a local classified ad in 264 Win Mag for a couple hundred $$. Picked it up yesterday. It's actually branded a Herter J9 but stamped made in Yugoslavia. The flat checkered bolt knob, floor plate release, safety, etc. clearly coincide w/ the Zastava shown earlier. Beautiful metal work and bluing. The stock is walnut but rather plain, uncheckered, no grip cap or fancy forend but I imagine it'll be a good shooter since the bore looks virtually untouched. I want to thank you for your well informed educational videos that inspire us to find and collect some of these hidden gems!! Greetings from MI.
Hi Frank - you hit a home run - you have one of the scarcest cals. in a superb version: amazing. Glad you recognized the value and I am so happy my work helps sometimes. Good shooting and/or hunting.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you for your reply. It gets better: the Herter J9 has a rare Kowa 3-9 x 42mm Japanese mfg. scope w/ a #4 German post reticle mounted on it.. The scope is excellent w/ flourite glass and worth as much as the rifle.. I think it was a rather good find. Going to a MI gun show this Saturday for another gem.. Love your videos!!
I wrote the factory to please expand the line to include : 6.5 Grendel, .300 Blackout, 6.8 SPC, .223 and the current 7.62X39 - maybe others as well. The custom rifle must be something really fine.
It was a laminate with the thick heavy barrel on it ,it looked out of the world,but owner said it shot good. The 8x33 would suit it also,or 7.92 Kurtz as PPU have ammo for itt .
I own 3 Zastavas in left handed. 270, 300WM scoped and a 375 H&H not scoped and Love all 3. Checkering could be better but it does not bother me. Metal work is wonderful and they are all in a Mauser action. 😍 Will buy a mini soon hopefully
I own a Zastava 30-06. Great rifle, very accurate. Plus I bought it for 300$ The guy who sold it to me had no idea what he had, other than it wasnt a rem. One of my most accurate rifles. It puts 165 sierra's under .5 consistantly. Using IMR 4451. With R19 and 4064 under 1" pretty much with anything I have tried. A "bad" group out of this thing is 1.5- 2". Man oh man did i get a gem lol. I own 1500$ rifles that wont do that.
I got the m85 in 7,62x39 . Bedded,polished trigger ,fitted for suppressor ,weaver bases . So scope fitted. Long throated chamber so can use with seater die .308 and .311 bullets. Lot of options and 220 SMK is good sub bullet and hard cast lead my friend have tried, varmint 110 Vmax. But i also found out that Fusion make 7,62 ammo so will try to get that and a few more to try soon.
Hi Jack - a rifle without a scope is a totally different instrument - so instinctive and easy to use and hit with. Now the scopes are like Zeppelins with the rifle dangling under colossal glass and tubes. All this to hit a deer at 75 yards. I'm trying to be funny of course : )
I'd be cautious calling the bolt a copy. The guide rib and extractor are about it. The back half of the m85 is a mauser, and the bolt handle unfortunately, is nothing like the Sako.
@@cs-rj8ru Good reply. It's just that I was just amazed when I laid the bolt from my Mini-Mauser next to the bolt from my Sako. The front half is virtually identical. The back, as you say, is indeed different/ the Mini-Mauser disassembling similar to a Mauser 98.
Thank you for not inserting that very loud introduction at the start of this video; my ears can be a little too sensitive to loud sounds. Besides, I would prefer to go right to your presentation. Thanks for your understanding.
I'm loving that set trigger on that CZ. I just reloaded some 7.62x39 last night that I need to try out of my AK. I shot in my 444 Marlin today for PA bear and deer season. I have a neighbor whos in his upper 70's who came over and sighted in his rifles too. One was a pump 35 Remington. I think it is a model 141, man that gun is neat. It was his fathers.
I wanted to say again your camera operators do their jobs very well. There is a lot of movement when you are showing several different firearms. They move the camera smoothly, use the zoom to get a good look at details, and lighting is always set up to see those details.
Hey Jake! That CZ is something special for sure. CZ and Zastava are so great - their rifles are the way rifles ought to be. And the Marlin .444 - for some people - that is it : one rifle. The 141 is another classic - I think I made a video about one in .25 Rem. that I still have.
Thank you so much for the quick reply. And please let me add that you have an amazing, and extremely informative and pleasing channel. I look forward to each video you release.
I have a Leupold 1.5-5 x 20 vx3i on mine in a one piece Magwedge mount and its perfect. The action is rough and sticky and the small bolt hard to operate unfortunately
Wonder how Serbian trials with 6,5 Grendel for millitary use is going, the m85 could be a nice little one with that one included , or a short 7mm. Sako 7x33 or 8mm Kurtz .
I have both a custom made CZ 527 and a Howa mini 1500 in 6.5 Grendel. Both are extremely accurate and a joy to shoot the CZ is mine and the Howa is my wifes’.
Great rifles both - I must say the Howa in the 6.5 Grendel is a favorite of mine - remarkable accuracy and ballistics; and minimal recoil. Thanks for the note.
Wood and Steel...till this day best materials for rifles, i hate this new materials cos yes they can be good in one area but you lose a lot in other areas,USOG i love your channel, from guns that you show to info's we get,you are very eloquent,clear and comprehensive, as i said before you telling little bit of history behind the gun to history of country of origin to its people is amazing...All the best to you and your channel from Serbia...
Hello Bandit! Thank you for the links and your kind words. I receive many notes and letters from more Serbian viewers now; kind and learned people; such a fine country - Serbia. God Bless.
I have a cz 527 in 223 the rifle gave me fits for about a year It was and is a booger to feed.bad magazines. I am in the process of deleting the 5 round mags and going to their 3 round mag.trouble is you have to change the bottom metal,.
The Brno mini action started out as a .22 Hornet rifle. A Brno collector might disagree with the following words but they are my immediate recollection.They managed to shoehorn the .222 Remington into it and later replaced it with a longer action for the .223, 222 and .22 Hornet. That was called the Fox. All those rifles (as far as I am aware) had double-set triggers but with the Brno trademark there were always special items, either individual customer orders or short runs for various national distributors, e.g. the shorter barreled Model 4 rifles for the Swedish distributor. The CZ527 is essentially an updated Fox with a single-set trigger.
Scopes a 3x or 5x prism scopes are very small. The newer 1 or 2 moa red dots are very small. There is also the UTG 3-9 Bug Buster compact scope. (I know it is chineese but it has very good ratings from reputable air gun writers.)
@@thomash5870 same but with a Remington logo. When I first seen it from a distance I thought it was a Ruger then picked it up. Looks like a Ruger Remington cross.. after having a bolt extension added I love the rifle. The extension made the bolt run smoother. That little bolt handle made it hard for me to run.
@@artifactman660 yep these rifles get a bad rap for accuracy issues and extractors breaking but I've had 2" groups with surplus 7.62x39 just a few weak extractions
It seems plain to me that the 527 is the superior product. My zastava 70 is drill and tapped too accept a receiver sight. I fitted an old all steel redfield aperture sight on it and installed a Williams twilight aperture.
Careful when describing a howa 1500. Remington all though very similar is not the action that is based off of. The howa has a one piece bolt where the Remington uses a solder process. Machining practices at howa are far better, extractors are also larger. Usually there will be vent holes in the bolt body in the event of a rupture. very evident on weatherby vanguard models. Also I believe the degree of bolt lift is different to the Remington. Good video!!
I have Zastava 22. It has also incarnated as a Charles Daly and a Remington 5. It has beautiful wood and metal finish. It has a loose action and won’t feed shells worth a hoot. The magazine is a horrible loose fit. And polishing the extractor claws in an exercise in micro surgery. I thought of buying one of those center fires but not after the 22 fiasco.
Thanks for reporting this Joseph. I'm surprised but every maker builds the odd rifle badly; or maybe this is just a bad model as in - all of them; that happens too. I'll keep as eye out for one.
I have one imported by FIME. I hand picked mine. Wonderful wood, great deep cut checkering (rare) great machine work, NO file marks. I had to lightly tune the extractor and magazine. Fantastic smooth rifle. Like I said, I hand picked mine. that's why Century marketed them as the CZ-99. Because 99% of them are project guns.
Zastava M85 7.62 x 39 mm is a great rifle, the CZ 527 7.62 x 39 mm is really a carabine (shorter and lighter), the CZ 527 has a detachable magazine that not look good if you compare with the clasic sytle of Zastava. PS vote for Zastava M85
They make them in stainless steel as well. Best part is in Serbia if you go directly to the factory you get it cheaper a brand new rifle stainless steel with polymer stock was 44,000 dinars which is around 430 dollars, you can also ask them to make it to your liking if you want something different.
What a great place! I have to head to Serbia once this COVID bug is over. I'd love a stainless one with walnut stock. Fantastic! My little Zastava shoots any ammo under one inch all day long. Superb.
I am so grateful for your channel, I almost feel guilty for asking you to do a review of the rolling block (I did so a while ago). So understanding that you sometimes take a loss on these rifles, I can wait until you get a good deal on one, so you don't loose money! Thank you so much!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have seen a few rusty Remingtons! Vintage guns can have some rust and even pitting, but they can still shoot well. Please don't feel rushed on my behalf!
la zastava precision 22 lr es un arma que viene con problemas de fabrica, le coloco el cargador realizo algunos tiros seguidos y al cuarto o quinto empiezan los problemas, el cerrojo no extrae el casquillo vacío se queda pegado en la recamara y por mas que se acciona el cerrojo no lo extrae, se tiene que meter una baqueta por la punta del cañón para poder extraer el casquillo vacío y lo peor de todo es que la empresa a la que le compre el arma no reconoce la falla, no recomiendo comprar el arma
Thank you Lourdes - I had the same thing happen with a US made rifle. I took a piece of steel wool and cleaned out the chamber and the shell extracts now. The problem happens when the chamber reamer becomes worn - happens in many factories. Clean out the chamber with something abrasive and use a little lubrication - this should solve the problem. I hope. : ) All the best to you.
cz and zastava make some top notch rifles the fit and finish for the price is great! cause if you have looked for a vintage Winchester pre 64 even the beat up truck guns are fetching a a huge premium compared to these! oh man wen you pulled out that cooper! if i had one ide pull it out to look at it evry day! ide probably feel like a lil kid evry time i did! you have a truly fine collection! and impeccable tastes!
I think the current trend is to have a field of view as large as possible, hence the large diameter oculars and 30mm tubes. They're not very slick, I agree.
Excellent video,....I thought that Smith & Wesson 1500,.....Howa 1500,.....Wheatherby 1500 were just Saco clone's. And that Mossberg bought out Smith & Wesson so the Mossberg 1500 is the same as the Smith & Wesson 1500. And I think the actions are made in Japan and there only small differences between them,... extractors,.... triggers,.... stock's ect. But I don't think their a Remington copy. Zastava looks like a great gun.
Thanks again Nakoa, I went in the vault and took out my Smith & Wesson and you're right - it is the same as the Howa and Weatherby Vanguard - which I may mention in the video. Mossberg also rebranded the Howa rifles. I compared the Howa to my Sako rifles and there are similarities between all the push feed rifles. There are only so many ways to do things I guess. Thanks for writing.
I want a Zastava mauser 98 in 30.06 so badly. As soon as they import them again I am buying 1. I have seen ones in polymer stocks. Can't have a true Mauser in synthetic stock.
I don’t understand why these Zastava rifles are called mini Mauser, their action is nothing like a Mauser action. They are a push feed action without a claw extractor, and in fact they are like a Sako action. They still function fine but in no way do they have any features of a Mauser.
How does this man not have 100,000 subs. One of the best channels on UA-cam
I guess not many people can find my channel! I'm not sure but hope things improve. Thanks for the kind words!
Probably only a reference channel for historically mentionable rifles for hunters
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I think he meant sandwiches.
Lmfao. I literally just commented the same exact thing yesterday, on another one of his vids! 😂 It’s crazy how all the clout and recognition goes to these other guys w/ nothing but same repetetive content *OR* straight up subtle, yet obvious advertising for a bunch of products similar to things/stuff most of us already have, yet my man over here can’t even get 100K likes? This guy actually has variety and always something new and random, as well as almost a vid covering most firearms out there, w/ actual example to 1st person demonstrate every detail to us. Not to mention all the vintage scopes, mods, and accessories he owns and covers in addition to his usual content.
The narrow minded nuts don't like this point of view.
You have to respect his humble gentleman, he's happy to educate and to learn from us if he doesn't or if he's wrong.
Thank you BF - I'm glad you're here.
It is a real pleasure to hear honest opinion without the cursing and nonsense. What a gentleman. I own a cz 223 and am looking to pick up a Mini in 7.62x39 in a vastava.
I think these rifles are just the ticket for young shooters. I am 6’6 and love them as well they are a real joy to carry and in Texas where I live they are plenty of gun for the game I Typically run in too.
Hi Josh - Thank you for the good words! I like the CZ very much - such a handy, accurate and not-too-fancy rifle. I seem to reach for it often - a practical and reliable rifle. Good shooting! - Mike
The CZ-527 was, apparently, discontinued a few days ago. I suppose the Zastava Mk.85 will have a renewed relevance in the wake of the former's absence.
I'm glad to hear Zastava's quality is generally good. Lately, my consumer confidence has been a bit shaken by the rising prices and unclear quality standards, across the board.
We have the Howa as well
The second rifle you'r shownig has the BEST sport action EVER.!!!
It's a FN "Supreme" Mauser action.!!!
Period.!!!
(I know, I'm the happy owner of several of those).
Kudus to you, for your fantastic good work on these videos.
I have two 527s; one chambered in .22 K Hornet and the other in standard Hornet. Both are tack drivers. I have also a 550 fs in 6.5 Swede. They are all beautiful, European drop comb rifles. All are equipped with New England aperture rear sights.
Thanks for all of your content!
The best channel, period. Thank you! Zastava rifles are really hard to find in Can now
I figured you were a shop owner, and I very much appreciate the effort you put into the channels buying the guns. I love that zastava with the mannlicher style stock, also I love the mini action. Might have to work more overtime than I usually do so I can get myself one. Thank you for all your efforts
I hope you never stop making more videos, really enjoy watching. I learned s lot about guns.
Thank you Dennis! Your note inspires me.
Love your reviews,very clear and factual...regards from Serbia
Remington imported the Zastava rifles for a short time. they are very nice rifles
The remington has a way better stock that's about the only difference
Remington 798, and 799. I have the 799 in 7.62x39 luv it
Quick question: do you think zastava is an under appreciated manufacturer? Nobody ever talks about them on UA-cam, but with German tooling they created possibly the best Mauser rifles of all time.
Dramatically under appreciated - it is a privilege to own the Zastava 98 and the Mini 98 - these rifles are far above the plastic/composite and other materials rifles made in the West. Serbia stuck with the right way to make firearms - so far anyway. I'm buying another Zastava Mini 98 asap.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns As I noted on your Zastava 98 video, my experience with the brand is positive. I would have liked to have seen more focus on that very nice looking stock on the Mini 98, it looks very well sculpted and finished.
hell yes my man
Zasta is making Mauser science 1800's they started as a Mauser-Milanovich long time ago
Any of their current production is quality. Even their current Tokarevs, while dated in design, are superbly made.
I own a Zastava M70( m98 ) in 6.5x55 Sweede it's a tack drive and you CANNOT BEAT A MAUSER ACTION Rifle ! Period , reliable , smooth and well balanced . I'm in market for one in .22 , 22-250 and just purchased one in .243 . I may look at one in larger Caliber yet , I'll say this Savage , Remington and few other need wake up cause to buy a rifle with no plastic that's all steel and wood for same price of a Savage Axis or Remington 783 or even Ruger American with plastic parts and pot metal parts, I'll take the Zastava anyway and everyday .
Another fantastic video. Thank you sir.
Love these videos, I keep coming back and learning something new.
Zastava should make a retro 98k with the bayonet lug and everything, and sir this video is really well done, this channel is one of my favorites.
That is an excellent idea. People should write the factory - they would listen if enough people wrote. I remember a company had a limited edition 98K - they sold out right away. Thanks for writing.
Or just buy a milsurp Yugo M48. Made by Zastava, and refurbished by Zastava every 10 years as they were kept in Yugo military storage. Many of them are in "like new" condition.
I have never handled a Zastava mini-Mauser but I have a CZ527 chambered for .223, which I am now so glad I bought it while it was available. I cannot find anything negative to say about the CZ527. I wish I had got one in 300 Blk and use it for plinking with cast bullets and suppressor.
Mike, thank you for working the action! I was concerned it was a stage prop with a nice shiny stock and really didn't work! Now I can rest easy knowing it is real! Great video!!!! :-)
Hahahaha...you bet Rick - the prop worked : ) Cheers!
I have an m70 ( Mauser 98) with a synthetic stock in .270.
Glass bedded and suppressed, Millett angle loc rings, sig sauer scope 3-9x40.
In load development, the most precise load shot 14mm @100m. The load I selected shot 19mm at 100m, but was at the top end of the ADI book powder loads. No pressure signs though.
Honestly I didn't know I shot that good, but it was repeatable, so it wasn't a fluke.
Longest shot taken, 270 metres, 9 point red stag.
Another very informative, interesting and insightful video of MINI actions whether Mauser or others which are usually a variation of a Mauser action.😉👍😁
Great video. I really enjoy the 527, and just picked up another today in 7.62x39. There are several rifles I have bought after watching your channel. Guess I can't double purpose your definition of a Channel Rifle since I just like to keep them!!
I own and have owned several of the wonderful CZ 527 and cannot understand their decision to end its production. I will check out the Zastava for sure.
A real class channel. Please keep it up.
Another GREAT VIDEO about mini actions Mauser and Howa 1500 which NOW I have BOTH!! I've had the very NICE CZ527 which is a beautiful handy carbine in 7.62X39 which is a pleasure to shoot (doesn't beat me up, I'm 72)!!! I recently picked up another NEAT MINI action rifle that supposedly was USED butt I say it doesn't look like it. I was looking around at BassPro shop's used gun section and saw 2 good-looking rifles being curious type I checked to see what caliber and PRICE. They were both Weatherby Vanguard Camillas, one was 243 Winchester and the other was 7mm08, both were $449.99 which I thought was a GOOD PRICE especially since they looked BRAND NEW to me!! I didn't know much about that particular model but was well acquainted with WEATHERBY as a VERY GOOD BRAND!!! Well did a little research and found out that they were Howa 1500 actions and they were kind of a DELUXE MODEL of the Weatherby Vanguard and it was meant for people of small stature like myself (women and youngsters) but I don't care who it was meant for, I LIKED IT!!! I guess that's why it was in those 2 calibers, both noted for light recoil!!! I chose the 243 because that caliber is a lot more prevalent than 7mm08 even though that's a GREAT CALIBER (7mm Mauser's little brother)!! Walmart carries 6-7 different loadings and manufacturers than almost any other caliber and they got some of the BEST PRICES on ammo!!! They have NO 7mm08 ammo at all!!!😮😢 So that kind of cinched it for me for my pick plus LESS RECOIL!!!😂😊 THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GREAT INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE VIDEOS, KEEP IT UP, SIR!!😊😊😊
Really nice stock wood on these rifles as well
Zastava Arms from Serbia
I have a Zastava 300 win mag that is awesome. I bought a Zastava .22 and it looks awesome, but rarely extracts a shell, especially if it is still live. Any thoughts on this? This channel is awesome but you keep calling my favourite youtube channel boring ;). You gave me enough knowledge and confidence to check out husquevarna, bsa, kriko, and now you got me appreciating post 64 model 70's...
As always great content, thank you!
Thanks Kenny
Thank you! Love all your videos, I learn a lot from you and I always find the answers I need here..
Thank you so much!
o nice another zastava!
Great rifles. : )
A vintage Lyman Aaskan would be ideal for that little Zastava. 2.5 or 3x would be plenty for that ammunition as well. There are a slew of small scopes being used on AR-15s as well. I have a little SightMark 4x32 on an M4 clone that would also work well on them.
That is bang on - now...I have to find one!
Still might be a bit long for a mini action.
Could be - at least the 3/4 tube though : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Have you handled any of the Webley & Scotts, Howa made?
Those Lyman Alaskans are pricey. It always intrests me. I just bought a Mauser with a Lyman micrometer sight and I love it, I may need to get more for my other rifles
I completely agree with you on a short 4x12 power scope for the minis.
Apparently Leupold is coming out with a small-ish variable - hopefully soon.
Learned so much about so many differant rifles im like a walking gun collectors guide compared to my hunting buddies from watching this chanel great info and smart guy keep up the good work !
Thank you for being here!
Thanks for sharing these short actions. I have a short action for a Serbian M24 rifle made in Zastava. Seems the company has a long history with shorter rifles.
FYI, that little Howa is great when placed in a MDT LSS chassis. I know, this is a little bit towards the tactical and non-traditional sense, but I must say it is a pleasure to shoot 7.62x39 in a setup that mimics a large precision rifle and simply focus on the act of shooting, not the accumulated cost.
Even with surplus, I have had good success of ~2.5" at 200 yards. If you do select the 1500 Mini for this use, I would recommend the bull barrel, as my early pencil model shows heat stringing. Remember to carry amonia or boiling hot water for post shoot cleaning at the range if using mercury sulfide based primers, as found in milsurp.
Oddly, I have been staring at Zastava models for a few weeks now, trying to find a particular elusive stainless model for a long-term project. Might have to add that 7.62x39 small action to the x39 bolt collection.
Valuable to know! Thank you. Mine is .223. I like your idea better.
Really nice grain on the factory stocks.
This old ham really enjoyed hearing you pronounce CZ as See Zed. Those are the last two characters of my callsign.
73, Kilo Foxtrot Six Charlie Zulu.
I watch and appreciate your videos, very informative. I'd like to see a video on you and a little of your background. You have an amazing understanding and knowledge of firearms and it would be interesting to see what life experiences brought you to all this experience.
Hi Dan - good idea - will do. Have a good one.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you and you have a good day also.
I really liked that Mini Mauser action. That would accommodate an idea I’ve had. I want to make a 6.5 WSSM with a 40 or 35 degree shoulder. Just to push the shoulder forward for a little more capacity.
No, you’re right about more sleek optics. The post WW2 German made Nickel Supra is a slim, very clear and bright scope. It has a 27mm tube that required shims back then. My fathers Pre 64 Model 70 has one.
This mini Mauser seems even closer to the old smallest Sako action ( 1950 -60 ) than the BRNO
Well if you decide to come over to Serbia, drop a line, Bulgaria is right next to it. I happily show you the sights in Sofia. Regards.
Cool video! thank you for posting brother !
Thanks Dobar!
Such an under appreciated channel. Where else can I find 5 rifles disassembled and videos like this and compared slowly? Perfect complement to Forgotten weapons.
Thanks Ted!
I’ve got (what’s probably) a stupid question, but...are all 'mini' Mauser actions Cock-On-Open? I’m very interested in finding out which is easier to operate between the two: C.O.Close or C.On Open? Great video, thanks very much for sharing.
Hi - they all are on open - as far as I know.
Great video...love the Mannlicher. Would like to see a .30 carbine, .350 Legend and .22 magnum.
Good morning Mike, after watching the first video a week ago on the Zastava Mauser rifles, I found one in a local classified ad in 264 Win Mag for a couple hundred $$. Picked it up yesterday. It's actually branded a Herter J9 but stamped made in Yugoslavia. The flat checkered bolt knob, floor plate release, safety, etc. clearly coincide w/ the Zastava shown earlier. Beautiful metal work and bluing. The stock is walnut but rather plain, uncheckered, no grip cap or fancy forend but I imagine it'll be a good shooter since the bore looks virtually untouched. I want to thank you for your well informed educational videos that inspire us to find and collect some of these hidden gems!! Greetings from MI.
Hi Frank - you hit a home run - you have one of the scarcest cals. in a superb version: amazing. Glad you recognized the value and I am so happy my work helps sometimes. Good shooting and/or hunting.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you for your reply. It gets better: the Herter J9 has a rare Kowa 3-9 x 42mm Japanese mfg. scope w/ a #4 German post reticle mounted on it.. The scope is excellent w/ flourite glass and worth as much as the rifle.. I think it was a rather good find. Going to a MI gun show this Saturday for another gem.. Love your videos!!
I saw a picture of a hybrid once, it was a m85 with a full lenght Sauer 200 STR match barrel in 6,5 Grwndel
Wish i bought one m85 a few years back,nice little rifle when polished up
I wrote the factory to please expand the line to include : 6.5 Grendel, .300 Blackout, 6.8 SPC, .223 and the current 7.62X39 - maybe others as well. The custom rifle must be something really fine.
It was a laminate with the thick heavy barrel on it ,it looked out of the world,but owner said it shot good. The 8x33 would suit it also,or 7.92 Kurtz as PPU have ammo for itt .
That 7.92 Kurz idea is a great one. I'll send them another letter : )
I own 3 Zastavas in left handed. 270, 300WM scoped and a 375 H&H not scoped and Love all 3. Checkering could be better but it does not bother me. Metal work is wonderful and they are all in a Mauser action. 😍 Will buy a mini soon hopefully
I own a Zastava 30-06. Great rifle, very accurate. Plus I bought it for 300$ The guy who sold it to me had no idea what he had, other than it wasnt a rem. One of my most accurate rifles. It puts 165 sierra's under .5 consistantly. Using IMR 4451. With R19 and 4064 under 1" pretty much with anything I have tried. A "bad" group out of this thing is 1.5- 2". Man oh man did i get a gem lol. I own 1500$ rifles that wont do that.
I should add, when I checked the rifle out the bore was copper fouled so badly it looked gold plated. A few hrs and some elbow grease goes a long way.
Super buy! Well done.
I got the m85 in 7,62x39 . Bedded,polished trigger ,fitted for suppressor ,weaver bases . So scope fitted. Long throated chamber so can use with seater die .308 and .311 bullets. Lot of options and 220 SMK is good sub bullet and hard cast lead my friend have tried, varmint 110 Vmax.
But i also found out that Fusion make 7,62 ammo so will try to get that and a few more to try soon.
Thanks
Excellent point on the mini actions not having a size appropriate scope option. The long range shooting trend seems to be driving much larger optics.
Hi ZH - I hope they start making smaller, more versatile scopes.
Great channel. I also love open sights and really love peep sights.
Hi Jack - a rifle without a scope is a totally different instrument - so instinctive and easy to use and hit with. Now the scopes are like Zeppelins with the rifle dangling under colossal glass and tubes. All this to hit a deer at 75 yards. I'm trying to be funny of course : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I agree. Sometimes open sights can be tough to see early and late, but we'll worth the price to play for simplicity!
How was your hunting luck? Getting ready start white tail deer rifle season in Michigan
Hi Michael! Great hunting but no venison so far. The best of luck to you and stay safe!
The Zasata Mini Mauser has a bolt that is virtually a direct copy of the small Sako action. Both wonderful little rifles!
I'd be cautious calling the bolt a copy. The guide rib and extractor are about it. The back half of the m85 is a mauser, and the bolt handle unfortunately, is nothing like the Sako.
@@cs-rj8ru Good reply. It's just that I was just amazed when I laid the bolt from my Mini-Mauser next to the bolt from my Sako. The front half is virtually identical. The back, as you say, is indeed different/ the Mini-Mauser disassembling similar to a Mauser 98.
Thank you for not inserting that very loud introduction at the start of this video; my ears can be a little too sensitive to loud sounds. Besides, I would prefer to go right to your presentation. Thanks for your understanding.
Thanks Mark - These things are all done for me - I'm not smart enough haha - I'll mention your note though : )
Great video love the channel
I'm loving that set trigger on that CZ. I just reloaded some 7.62x39 last night that I need to try out of my AK. I shot in my 444 Marlin today for PA bear and deer season. I have a neighbor whos in his upper 70's who came over and sighted in his rifles too. One was a pump 35 Remington. I think it is a model 141, man that gun is neat. It was his fathers.
I wanted to say again your camera operators do their jobs very well. There is a lot of movement when you are showing several different firearms. They move the camera smoothly, use the zoom to get a good look at details, and lighting is always set up to see those details.
Hey Jake! That CZ is something special for sure. CZ and Zastava are so great - their rifles are the way rifles ought to be. And the Marlin .444 - for some people - that is it : one rifle. The 141 is another classic - I think I made a video about one in .25 Rem. that I still have.
I'll make sure that I let them read your encouraging words; makes a huge difference - thank you!
Nice video Mike you do a great job on your video's.
Thanks Loren!
February 2021, what should I be looking at as fair market value for the mini zastava in average used condition?
Hi - I'd say $550 - $600 with some marks etc...
Thank you so much for the quick reply. And please let me add that you have an amazing, and extremely informative and pleasing channel. I look forward to each video you release.
I have always had a deep affection for the Sako L46, as well as the L461.
Thanks for sharing.
I have a Leupold 1.5-5 x 20 vx3i on mine in a one piece Magwedge mount and its perfect. The action is rough and sticky and the small bolt hard to operate unfortunately
Wonder how Serbian trials with 6,5 Grendel for millitary use is going, the m85 could be a nice little one with that one included , or a short 7mm. Sako 7x33 or 8mm Kurtz .
I bought one of these for 50 bucks like 10 years ago and I still love it
Amazing buy!
I have both a custom made CZ 527 and a Howa mini 1500 in 6.5 Grendel. Both are extremely accurate and a joy to shoot the CZ is mine and the Howa is my wifes’.
Great rifles both - I must say the Howa in the 6.5 Grendel is a favorite of mine - remarkable accuracy and ballistics; and minimal recoil. Thanks for the note.
Wood and Steel...till this day best materials for rifles, i hate this new materials cos yes they can be good in one area but you lose a lot in other areas,USOG i love your channel, from guns that you show to info's we get,you are very eloquent,clear and comprehensive, as i said before you telling little bit of history behind the gun to history of country of origin to its people is amazing...All the best to you and your channel from Serbia...
Did you heared that Zastava have new company for US market, Zastava USA?
Zastava USA
ua-cam.com/video/IjalGryfcyQ/v-deo.html
Hello Bandit! Thank you for the links and your kind words. I receive many notes and letters from more Serbian viewers now; kind and learned people; such a fine country - Serbia. God Bless.
I have a cz 527 in 223 the rifle gave me fits for about a year
It was and is a booger to feed.bad magazines. I am in the process of deleting the 5 round mags and going to their 3 round mag.trouble is you have to change the bottom metal,.
Saw one of these for first time today, was a beautiful and handy looking rifle
Hi Brandon - Hope you get one - these are excellent and accurate....and handy.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns still deciding on picking it up it's in 7.62x39 and asking 800usd. Very beautiful and perfect condition though
The Brno mini action started out as a .22 Hornet rifle. A Brno collector might disagree with the following words but they are my immediate recollection.They managed to shoehorn the .222 Remington into it and later replaced it with a longer action for the .223, 222 and .22 Hornet. That was called the Fox. All those rifles (as far as I am aware) had double-set triggers but with the Brno trademark there were always special items, either individual customer orders or short runs for various national distributors, e.g. the shorter barreled Model 4 rifles for the Swedish distributor. The CZ527 is essentially an updated Fox with a single-set trigger.
do a review on the sako l46 7x33 or 218bee 25-20- etc and did they ever release one in 32-20
Scopes a 3x or 5x prism scopes are very small. The newer 1 or 2 moa red dots are very small. There is also the UTG 3-9 Bug Buster compact scope. (I know it is chineese but it has very good ratings from reputable air gun writers.)
Remington makes a sweet mauser action in 799
same rifle. they re package the zastava m85 mini mauser
@@thomash5870 same but with a Remington logo. When I first seen it from a distance I thought it was a Ruger then picked it up. Looks like a Ruger Remington cross.. after having a bolt extension added I love the rifle. The extension made the bolt run smoother. That little bolt handle made it hard for me to run.
@@artifactman660 yep these rifles get a bad rap for accuracy issues and extractors breaking but I've had 2" groups with surplus 7.62x39 just a few weak extractions
@@thomash5870 I've gotten 1.5 inch groups with steel case ammo and 1 to 1.25 with good hunting loads at 100 yards.
Hard to believe but i ended up with one of those Zastava mini rifles in left hand version. It came with iron sights.
A gem - and very hard to find. Good on you!
It seems plain to me that the 527 is the superior product. My zastava 70 is drill and tapped too accept a receiver sight. I fitted an old all steel redfield aperture sight on it and installed a Williams twilight aperture.
Careful when describing a howa 1500. Remington all though very similar is not the action that is based off of. The howa has a one piece bolt where the Remington uses a solder process. Machining practices at howa are far better, extractors are also larger. Usually there will be vent holes in the bolt body in the event of a rupture. very evident on weatherby vanguard models. Also I believe the degree of bolt lift is different to the Remington. Good video!!
Thanks Jason! Important distinctions for sure. Have a great weekend.
Got a question, can steel ammo be shot out of these? I'm thinking being bolt action it would be fine?
Totally fine - I do all the time.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you.
I have Zastava 22. It has also incarnated as a Charles Daly and a Remington 5. It has beautiful wood and metal finish. It has a loose action and won’t feed shells worth a hoot. The magazine is a horrible loose fit. And polishing the extractor claws in an exercise in micro surgery. I thought of buying one of those center fires but not after the 22 fiasco.
Thanks for reporting this Joseph. I'm surprised but every maker builds the odd rifle badly; or maybe this is just a bad model as in - all of them; that happens too. I'll keep as eye out for one.
- Which model?M-56 .22 is superb model...
I have one imported by FIME. I hand picked mine. Wonderful wood, great deep cut checkering (rare) great machine work, NO file marks. I had to lightly tune the extractor and magazine. Fantastic smooth rifle. Like I said, I hand picked mine. that's why Century marketed them as the CZ-99. Because 99% of them are project guns.
Zastava M85 7.62 x 39 mm is a great rifle, the CZ 527 7.62 x 39 mm is really a carabine (shorter and lighter), the CZ 527 has a detachable magazine that not look good if you compare with the clasic sytle of Zastava.
PS vote for Zastava M85
They make them in stainless steel as well. Best part is in Serbia if you go directly to the factory you get it cheaper a brand new rifle stainless steel with polymer stock was 44,000 dinars which is around 430 dollars, you can also ask them to make it to your liking if you want something different.
What a great place! I have to head to Serbia once this COVID bug is over. I'd love a stainless one with walnut stock. Fantastic! My little Zastava shoots any ammo under one inch all day long. Superb.
When I get to travel to Serbia this year, I'll go to Zastava and order a custom rifle. I'll ask for a LKM85 in 223 that actually works out of the box.
A tough question and I don't blame you if you won't opine. Which is your favorite? The Zastava action or CZ 527 action?
Hi Patrick - the CZ : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns :)
If you choose to come to Serbia, Kragujevac (hometown of Zastava-aslo my hometown) it will be nice to meet you....
Thank you Bojan - I look forward to it.
Have you ever heard of the 6x45 cartridge?
I am so grateful for your channel, I almost feel guilty for asking you to do a review of the rolling block (I did so a while ago). So understanding that you sometimes take a loss on these rifles, I can wait until you get a good deal on one, so you don't loose money! Thank you so much!
Sorry for being soooo slow. I missed a couple - have my eyes on a Remington rust magnet - but it works and the bore is okay. Thanks for the reminder.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have seen a few rusty Remingtons! Vintage guns can have some rust and even pitting, but they can still shoot well. Please don't feel rushed on my behalf!
Does anyone know where these can be found in the United States? I am not having any luck online.
Hi Peter - maybe contact Zastava - the rifle is on their web site zastavaarmsusa.com/products/bolt-action/
Anyone knows about the Zatasva M808? I am interested in the 270 Win because it has 26" barrel. Thanks for sharing.
I tried to find one - no luck so far.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns, Do you think I should get it if I found one? I was looking for a good 270 for hunting.
Guninternational has it.
wow you got mini now sweet!
Really interesting scope.
A Howa Mini Action in 6.5 Grendel is so much fun.
One of the best -
la zastava precision 22 lr es un arma que viene con problemas de fabrica, le coloco el cargador realizo algunos tiros seguidos y al cuarto o quinto empiezan los problemas, el cerrojo no extrae el casquillo vacío se queda pegado en la recamara y por mas que se acciona el cerrojo no lo extrae, se tiene que meter una baqueta por la punta del cañón para poder extraer el casquillo vacío y lo peor de todo es que la empresa a la que le compre el arma no reconoce la falla, no recomiendo comprar el arma
Thank you Lourdes - I had the same thing happen with a US made rifle. I took a piece of steel wool and cleaned out the chamber and the shell extracts now. The problem happens when the chamber reamer becomes worn - happens in many factories. Clean out the chamber with something abrasive and use a little lubrication - this should solve the problem. I hope. : ) All the best to you.
cz and zastava make some top notch rifles the fit and finish for the price is great! cause if you have looked for a vintage Winchester pre 64 even the beat up truck guns are fetching a a huge premium compared to these! oh man wen you pulled out that cooper! if i had one ide pull it out to look at it evry day! ide probably feel like a lil kid evry time i did! you have a truly fine collection! and impeccable tastes!
I would love to see you do a accuracy test on these.
Hi Scott - good idea. As soon as I can find an open range.
I think the current trend is to have a field of view as large as possible, hence the large diameter oculars and 30mm tubes. They're not very slick, I agree.
In the explanation for the scope I would've said "Its German" and left it at that, that's how I always describe German engineering to people haha.
Very straight - I like that "Its German" ; )
Excellent video,....I thought that Smith & Wesson 1500,.....Howa 1500,.....Wheatherby 1500 were just Saco clone's.
And that Mossberg bought out Smith & Wesson so the Mossberg 1500 is the same as the Smith & Wesson 1500.
And I think the actions are made in Japan and there only small differences between them,... extractors,.... triggers,.... stock's ect.
But I don't think their a Remington copy.
Zastava looks like a great gun.
Thanks again Nakoa, I went in the vault and took out my Smith & Wesson and you're right - it is the same as the Howa and Weatherby Vanguard - which I may mention in the video. Mossberg also rebranded the Howa rifles. I compared the Howa to my Sako rifles and there are similarities between all the push feed rifles. There are only so many ways to do things I guess. Thanks for writing.
I want a Zastava mauser 98 in 30.06 so badly. As soon as they import them again I am buying 1. I have seen ones in polymer stocks. Can't have a true Mauser in synthetic stock.
Very good statement Lenox - I agree: a Mauser needs a proper stock - not polymer.
Would you explain to people that don't know why you pull the tracker as you close the bolt on a raffle
Will do Jerry - thanks.
I don’t understand why these Zastava rifles are called mini Mauser, their action is nothing like a Mauser action. They are a push feed action without a claw extractor, and in fact they are like a Sako action. They still function fine but in no way do they have any features of a Mauser.
Serbian Ruger M77 in Magnum Caliber ?
I believe I have a Zastava Mini mauser, 270 win. Commerical action.
reminds me of the schultz & larsen legacy rifle
Very unusuall scope 🤔
Hello Yuriy - very strange and at first I thought too complicated - and then I learned how to use it and it really is excellent. Thanks for writing.