Poison 4 Losers?!? | Hazbin Hotel Ep 1x4 Reaction & Review | Prime Video
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Basically half the reddit posts on the sub is "stop letting your 7 year old watch this."
But also the other half is good porn jokes.
bUt iT's aNiMaTeD iT mUsT bE fOr KiDs!
fuck the redditors, they hate South Park and Family Guy etc, no point in trying to reason with those fucks. we all know the REAL reason that they hate on Vivziepop anyway, and it's not the vulgarity...
Also the fact that I’ve seen costumes of the characters made for kids. Like Angel Dust costume for kids, Charlie costume for kids or Alastor costume for kids. Like, wtf, this is not a kids show!
I was recently at a comic con in my city, dressed up as Charlie, and so many kids seemed to recognize me and want photos with me. I hope to whatever gods might listen that they just thought my costume was pretty and not because they have seen the show
@Kamechan98 i think i've seen some posts that some parents let children watch hazbin hotel without letting them watch violent scenes and especially ep 4 and i think i have no problem with that but if children watch it fully then um.. it's problem indeed.
Here’s a comment to clarify:
There are hellborn and sinners, who are both referred to as demons sometimes. Sinners are dead people who only reside in the pride ring of hell and Hellborn are species native to hell. Hazbin Hotel is broadly about sinners, but its sister show, Helluva Boss, is about the hellborn.
Almost all the characters in Hazbin are sinners, including Alastor. He was a referred to as a mortal soul in the pilot. Sinners are immortal, unless killed by holy weapons. Otherwise, they just respawn. They can only live in the pride ring. The strongest sinners are overlords, who operate like mob bosses, taking possession of souls and territory.
Hellborn are made up of multiple species with a hierarchy. The strongest are the royalty and the 7 deadly sins. Royals can only be killed by holy weapons and magic.
Correct. Charlie is hellborn and is off-limits during the exterminations. Like Nerdy said, Adam says this in episode 1. The sinners do reform/respawn after being injured, but this is not stated explicitly and clearly in the show. In episode 2, Velvette hints at this when you see a cart with the body parts of one of her models that Valentino ripped apart. She says something to the effect of "he tore up my best model, and you know the show can't wait for her to pull herself back together", implying that yes, sinners can reform after being injured.
@@anon_234 All true *Except* for sinners outright killed during the exterminations. All those eyes that we see on the walls of buildings and the furnishings. Those are the remains of sinners killed by angelic weapons. They can not reform and are left only able to watch what is going on around them.
@@Kyoril Actually I believe the eyes in the environment are not from the sinners but from the native Hellborn dying since they don't have an afterlife to pass on too like human souls.
@@SickSomnothat makes sense, however the sinners souls also have nowhere to go as they are permanently destroyed during the exterminations.
I do think this is one of the biggest issues with the universe: the shows themselves don't actually show that. I still enjoy the universe and the additional info from outside the shows improve it, but I do think there are somethings like this or backstory lore that the shows need to address themselves.
Nobody in hell is 'immune' to the exorcist angelic weaponry. The agreement between Heaven and Hell, as mentioned in ep 1, is just supposed to forbid the exorcists from targeting hellborn. Political immunity, not physical.
yep, dude just completely blanked on that detail
@@sarafontanini7051he/they also haven't seen the show/reactions multiple times like us viewers no doubt have.
A little correction: Husk ran off before Vaggie threw him off the roof in episode 3. The only ones that actually went to the War Zone were Angel, Sir Pentious and Nifty. Hence why we have the little moment where Pen thanks Angel for saving him and Husk just says something like "at least you took a beating like a champ" to the snake AFTER Angel is done doing a little summary of what happened down there. If wqs more for Pentious's benefit, but Husk never saw Angel fight, nor be truly vulnerable, until this point in the show, which is a big thing since they are mean to be the closest among the group, excluding Charlie ans Vaggie ofc.
for what it’s worth, Alastor was definitely a human and can technically die, he’s just exceedingly powerful. He was a serial killer back in the day (1920s-30s) as part of his backstory, and the reason there’s so much deer theming around him (like his antlers - which are also like a radio antenna, sure - and the fact that he was eating a raw dead deer in ep 3) is because how he died in real life was that he was mistaken for being a deer and shot by a hunter while he was out in the swamp disposing of the body of one of his victims
My own personal belief is that while alive, Alastor made a deal with a Voodoo Loa or Spirit to have immense power upon his demise from the mortal plane. That shadow we all see with Alastor *IS* that spirit. A totally separate entity, and the source of all his power. The more deals he makes. The stronger that spirit Alastor is leashed to becomes. Alastors ultimate goal is to be free of that spirit and join his Mother, who is in Heaven. He sees Charlie as the means to this end.
@@Kyoril I dig that theory. Not sure I buy it, but I dig it
and the creator and charlie's va confirmed in the interview that charlie is supposed to learn more throught the series and in my opinion it's better than main character who is always in the right. it leaves a lot of room for charlie's development in addition, in the pilot vaggie said alastor became stronger which is strange for a mortal soul. the only reason why many don't respect charlie is because she is strong yet doesn't use her power because she has probably NEVER used it for violence and oppression and doesn't exactly know how to use it. her relationship with her father and his character will be solved in the next episode
"he's there!"
husk in that scene: *proceeds to quietly leave through the door.*
Husker actually sneaks in the roof door when Vaggie throws everyone into the war zone.
you guys went back to see if Husk was at the battlefield in the last episode, but missed that he actually snuck away to avoid having to join the battle
And now keep in mind, this is Blake Roman's FIRST ever role as a VA. He absolutely killed it as Angel Dust!
And fun fact:
He also voices thr EGG BOIS 😂
I didn't know that, for his first ever role he sure as hell nailed it. He's gonna go far
The only person in this series so far that wasn't a person on Earth is Charlie who was born in hell. Overlords like Alastor were human but became so powerful in hell by getting other people to sell them their souls in exchange for favors of one kind or another. For demons and humans in hell, human souls are a source of power. Culling the number of souls in hell is also therefore a way to place a hardcap on how powerful hell itself can become, thus the exterminations. Charlie isn't immune to the Angels weapons, thats not what E1 said, episode 1 said that Lucifer made a deal that exempt hellborn demons like Charlie from the extermination so that Heaven wouldn't target them.
We don't really know if the exorcist angels are human souls or are heavenborn... if the latter, Lute (who was with Adam in ep 1) would be another example of a person who wasn't ever a person on earth. (My gut is to say they're heavenborn but it's not settled as yet.)
@@_iarna_ I'm personally assuming they were human souls that Adam turned into Exorcists just because that's far more interesting since it gives them all prior human lives.
@@troikas3353 The fact that the only two beside Adam whose name we know seem to have gotten that name as Angels would tend to indicate that either they're not humans or that they have no memories of their human past. There's also another element in that direction, something that would indicate an exorcist was human but isn't canon anymore which would indicate vizie's intent not to make exorcist humans anymore, but I can't be specific cause spoiler.
The way Angels voice broke at the end of poison destroyed me. The voice actors absolutely nailed it!
Husk was on the roof at the time of the war scene but if I remember correctly he did not participate, before Vaggie started throwing them onto the battlefield Husk had sneaked out of the place
Yeah, it's true. But it seems he saw the battle because he praised Sir Pentious later for his efforts. Thus Husk saw Angel at the battlefield too.
Yeah, there's a huge push in the cosplay community about not cosplaying from the show, but especially Angel, if you're underage.
tbf nobody underage should even KNOW about Angel.
@@UltimateGamerCC Of course not. You don't need to be 18+ to watch this show. The actual age with depend on each kid and their sensibilities, but Hazbin Hotel is perfectly appropriate for most 16+ years old.
Nobody is immune. The angels are not supposed to kill Hilborn Demons, but if they went after them and decided too, it would work just as well as it does on sinners. Also, Alistar was a human. He’s just very powerful.
Making it as simple as possible without spoilers.
All characters in Hazbin are technically sinners except for Charlie and Lucifer. Though there are hellborn species we hardly ever see them in Hazbin, and I think only imps have shown up at all even.
Alastor was a serial killer and radio host, he got shot mistaken for a deer when burying a body, hence his radio host and deer themes. He died somewhere in the 30s I think.
Also Husk escapes the roof before being thrown so continuity actually checks out.
"All characters in Hazbin are technically sinners except for Charlie and Lucifer" that's categorically not true, because of the angels. However, of those in hell, as far as we know, that is true. (That may change, or it may not.)
@@_iarna_ i know I'm being very unspecific to avoid spoilers 🥲😂
You're both right and wrong about some stuff. Alastor is a person, a former human being, but there are hellborn demons in hell. The only named hellborn we've met for sure as of now is Charlie. Technically the eggs are "hellborn" but they're more created than born, they're like sentient robots. We've seen one non named hellborn in the episode 1 song: There was an imp, a low rank hellborn, talking about shoving barbwires in someone's holes. I'm sure we've met a few more in the background but as far as named characters go, it's only Charlie for sure right now.
Overlords, the ones who owns millions of souls as Camilla said, are sinners. We might eventually learn that there is a surprise exception here and there but as far as we know they're all former humans. And Alastor most certainly isn't an exception, he's one of the ones we know for sure was a human.
And hellborn demons can be killed by the exorcist's blade, they just aren't. That was the deal, Heaven said to Hell: "You let us kill sinners and in exchange we're not touching the hellborns" so there's nothing stopping exorcists from killing hellborn demons beside that deal. The main difference in how hellborns die vs sinners is that as long as they die to anything but an exorcist blade, sinners will come back to life so you can't put them down permanently easily while hellborn demons die for good when they're killed, although killing a high ranking hellborn is probably harder than kiling even a strong sinner like the overlords so it kind of balances out.
Essentially, just assume that everyone beside Charlie or characters from Heaven is a sinner and a former human. I didn't really have issues with that during the show because they never gave us a reason to assume otherwise. The show's premise is about sinners, the city is one of sinners, we start the show with Charlie introducing them to us (in her first song while she roams in the city) and seeing them dead or injured on the street after an extermination, so everyone is a sinner. While that might not be necessarily true in the end, it's the base assumption about the show and that's why that part caused no confusion for me when I watched it (and I'm not someone who knew anything about the show before watching it, I didn't even watch the pilote until after I was done with season 1).
The only thing I've noticed cause confusion in most people (me included at the time although I just put it aside because it's not important to the plot, just the setting) and should have been clarified in universe, is the fact that sinners don't die when they're killed (other than by exorcists angel). We know from the start they die when killed by the angel because the whole excuse is "reducing their numbers" (and preventing them to rebel, both goals which necessitates the sinners to actually die and not just disappear temporarily. The premise would make no sense otherwise so it's the natural assumption, most people don't have issues with that part). But we don't know why in a world that violent, sinners and Charlie only focus on angels in particular when they're shown killing each other a lot in Episode 1. And the answer is that they can't really kill each other permanently. Once again, that part is not important for the plot, the extermination still happens and killed 16% of the population so that's enough to justify the story, but it is important for the worldbuilding, but it would have benefited from being explained.
Alastor was human; it's said in the pilot that he was more powerful than any mortal soul before him, which means he's a mortal soul. Also, it's Word of God that he lived in the 1920s and died in the early 30s, lived in New Orleans and was Creole... and a serial killer, because of course he was, lol.
Clarification:
"Demon" is a general term that refers to *anyone* from hell, whether they were born there or whether they're Sinners who used to be human. "Sinner" is the term for those who used to be human and died, while the rest of the demon types are all hell-born. All demons of any kind can be exterminated -- wiped from existence -- at the hands of an angelic weapon; hell-born demons are just politically exempt from being the targets of the exterminations, due to the angels' deal with Lucifer that Lute mentioned in episode 1. Other than by angelic weapons, Sinners can't die, but hell-born demons can; though it seems different ranks of demon have shorter or longer lifespans than each other. Charlie, for instance, being part angel, seems to have an extremely long lifespan, perhaps even an eternal one; while imps (one of the lowest classes of demons, which we see more of in Helluva Boss) seem to have a human-like lifespan.
The only thing I have to add for the ending is Husk was there in episode 3 but he leaves and doesn't get involved with the fighting happening below. They all learn and start to trust each other but Husk still gets his boundaries pushed by Angel all the time. He doesn't take him seriously because of his fake attitude he sees clear as day just as he sees and pin points everyone else. Even shrugging off upsetting Angel to Charlie because of how he views Angel.
Long story short, everyones friendship is growing stronger.
I love how he goes back to check if Husk was there for his point, but didn't let it play, which would have shown Husk slinking away
The Angels CAN kill the Hellborn, but Lucifer made a deal with them to spare Hellborns, since they didn't do anything to deserve Hell or the Extermination.
From our Hazbin Hotel Crew, only Charlie and her 3 pets (Razzle, Dazzle & Keekee) are Hellborns.
Sinners are humans who died and were sent to hell, which is nearly the whole cast. Alastor was a serial killer from the 1930's who was accidentally shot by a deer hunter, Angel was a mobster from the 1940's who overdosed, ect. Charlie is Hellborn. Hellborn are native to hell and they aren't immune to the Angelic weapons, but the Angels are allowed to target the Hellborn, including Charlie due to a deal with Lucifer. Other demons include imps, succubi, and hellhounds, which are explored more through the sister series Helluva Boss.
The demons and exorcist thing was a treaty that Lucifer made that Hellspawn are exempt. So souls that had been humans/sinners are fair game, but Charlie is protected.
We do get more backstory details on some main characters, soon, too!
No, Adama didn't say Hellborn are IMMUNE to angelic weapons. He simply said that the angels aren't ALLOWED to kill hellborn demons. WHich is ENTIRELYE different.
also no ALL the characters are demons, the difference is that SOME are sinners (humans who died and went to hell) and hellborn (demons who were born in hell). Sinners are immortal EXCEPT if they are killed by a angel's blade specifically, while some hellborn (but not all, only he upper class) are implied to also be immortal unless killed by a angel's weapon.
I do agree that one flaw of the show is that they don't really...EXPOSIT that much on the worldbuilding stuff and its mostly up to inference and checking out behind the scenes shit so hopefully they improve on that later.
Point is, Charlie can TOTALLY get killed by the angels shouldthe angels decided whatever deal they made with hell to exempt hellborn from the genocide isn't worth it.
also, Charlie is the only hellborn of the main cast. Alastor, Angel, Nifty etc are all sinners who went to hell, its just some sinners such as Alastor have accrued incredible power via deals with othr sinners.
For Charlie the worse that can happen is lose everyone that she loves, so death is not the worse that can happen
I’m not tryna be a jerk, but uh… a lot of your questions or issues that “should have been answered” like… they are. They are answered; things like who’s a sinner and who’s not is talked about. Etc etc. but otherwise, thanks for reacting.
I will concede one thing; i do not like how they call everyone a demon. Sinners should not be called demons. But hey, I’m not the writer so her choice i guess.
Souls in hell bleed red, hellborn bleed black… I think is a way you can tell. The overlords I believe are all souls but gain power by owning other souls. Or something like that lol
Great reaction!! Keep them coming!!😁
That whole masquerade shade story at the beginning is literally so smart ,, a performer myself I think that’s absolutely amazing. 👏
Alistor was a human. Sinners and hellborn can both die from angelic weapons, but lucifer had a deal that the exorcists arent allowed to kill hellborn. Thos whole show takes place in the first ring of hell, Pride. Human souls arent allowed in the other rings.
If killed by an angelic weapon, they die permanently, like their souls are gone. If they get killed other ways, sinners souls reform after a bit and they go back to normal.
Alestair was a person once, so was Angel Dust. Charlie was not. I cannot go any further in it without spoiling.
Also, it is a little confusing who is what. There is some content outside the show to flesh things out. And the other show "Helluva Boss" of course. We meet more characters there that never were human souls.
Calling Charlie immune from annual extinction is like calling a king immune from the guillotine
No you have hell born and sinners who were once human, Alastair is a sinner meaning he was once human
Hey guys, wait for episodes 5 and 6 to give you more context on characters like Vaggie and Alistair and how they are affected by the extinction event.
No Spoiler, just information already presented in the show up to Ep 4:
Alastor, seems to be a soul, and to have been lived on earth since in the Pilot he mentions the Great drepression as someone who lived through it.
Since Angel and Husk have sold their souls, then it is safe to assume they are from earth. Nifty, Sir Pentious and Vaggie are not clear, they have no clue to point one way or another, but also ok to assume they are souls from earth.
There is a sing-along version of "poison" that is safe for work. It is virtually only the lyrics in the video, nothing from the show aside from the shadow form back-up dancers.
Angel: "Coming!"
Valentino: "not off-camera you're not!"
Valentino's a real piece of shit, but i'll give him that one... Rule #1 of pimping, you dont damage the merchandise! if you're gonna dress like a pimp, then ACT the part! aint nothing worse than a bad Pimp, gives all the good Pimps a bad name.
um alastor is also a sinner who was a radio host. vaggie um it's spoiler so i cannot tell you.
Poison: The Tragic Bop.
Holy weapons destroy the soul. But when demons kill each other, they eventually regenerate or respawn or something. Velvet said it takes time, but what exactly that means is left pretty vague.
No one is immune to holy weapons. Lute just said that Charlie’s father (Lucifer) negotiated with the angels and successfully got them to agree to spare the hellborn (I assume because they never lived on earth and thus did not necessarily deserve to be punished). So the angels spare the hellborn but hellborn are not immune to holy weapons.
And Alastor is a sinner, not a hellborn. Vaggie’s emphasis on him being a demon in episode 1 was talking more about his evil nature and level of power. It didn’t mean he was hellborn.
The “gym leaders” as you called them last episode are the strongest of the sinners, called overlords. They are the ones that own the most souls (like Val owns Angel’s soul and Husk implied that Alastor won his soul in a gamble - before which, Husk himself was an overlord who owned a lot of souls, (and then lost them gambling)).
This is my episode favorite 👑👑👑
I love Husk and Angel Dust ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Posion and Loser, Baby they are songs so God
Hell born can be killed Lucy made a compromise with heaven allow the extermination but not to kill native born hell creatures
Basically all their questions in the discussion portion will be answered in later episodes lol
Its intentionally not been clear of stuff and people yet, don’t worry
"Loser" is one of my favorite songs from this show. Glad you liked it as well!
Everyone is vulnerable to the swords of angels whether they were born now or they were Sinners who went to hell of the cast hazbin only demon we know has been born in Hell of the people in this show is Charlie
"Maybe this is where the X-men go after they die" weeeelll.... in earlier concepts there were gonna be superheroes on earth who would end up in the afterlife. (You can hear a reference to that in the pilot during inside every demon is a rainbow.)
You guys have to watch the lyric video to poison… the lyrics get very dark but deep
Yes!!!! Love Jeckle and Hyde. I've done both scripts for different shows.
"Everyone is gay in hell" makes sense
Last episode you were wondering why so many are cosplaying as Angel Dust, this right here is why...
Alastair was humann serial killer
The infamous episode 4... can't wait for their reactions.
No one is immune to the angel weapons. The things is the extermination target only sinners, who can only be killed by those, like demons nobility, imps and hellhounds can be killed naturally. Alastor was an human, all Overlords were, they are just a more powerful sort of sinners.
Hellborns Are Born In Hell Like Charlie Alastor Was A Human He Is A Sinner When He First Came Into Hell He Became A Powerful Overlord Angel Was Human Husk The Same Nifty Was Human To Penn Who is The snake demon he was human Angel Grow Up In The mafia family he is Italian Angel can sleep with girls but those girls has to pay extra Alastor was a serial killer and he is cannibal his mother raised him to treat woman better he loves his mama very much you can say that he is a mamas boy Vivian said that Alastor gets along very well with the woman except the guys
Just at the beginning of your post-reaction discussion but a lot of Nerdy's thought are on the WAFO-spectrum. Some good points, some are wrong but defo WAFO!
No Alastor is a Sinner. he is a human who died and went to hell. Yes, the show is very bad at explaining this and where each character falls in.
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Demon is a word used to basicly everyone who is in hell, but there are different groups: There are Hellborn, Fallen Angels and Sinners. Lucifer is a Fallen Angel, Charlie is a hellborn, Husk, Angel Dust, Nifty, Alastor, Sir Pentious, ALL the Overlords and almost every other character in this show is a Sinner (It isn't clear to me what the eggboys are...).
Besides Charlie, I THINK the only Hellborn in this show are Razzle and Dazzle (Charlie's Puppy Goat Demons...).
has Viv confirmed this SINCE the Pilot? this could've always changed when Amazon got a hold of the script, otherwise how does a Sinner have the ability to enslave other Sinners?
@@UltimateGamerCC its what it says on the wiki so...
@@conradoccaminha ok, so fan edited not official, gotcha.
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Ah the episode thay broke me
and i personally think that the show is going toward charlie's idea is right but the method is wrong because ofc she has never been a human so she doesn't understand
@unscmistressgaming1132 i agree but isn't that spoiler?..
@@user-gm5of3vr1byep….I was literally watching another reaction and it hit me that i should not have posted that. I deleted it.
yah yeet
I fermly insist, you MOST watch GALAVANT!!!
Please trust me!!!!
We’ve seen it! LOVE Galavant!
@@NerdyNightly ouch... I really hoped for a reaction 😭can you find somene who didn't watch it and rewatch with him? hahahaha
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