Super Smash Bros. Brawl: How to Dodge Final Smashes Part 1
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Since UA-cam doesn't allow uploads over 10 min for those with Director accounts that signed up after their "cut off" date, I had to split it into three parts...
Enjoy!
This is part 1....
Part 2: • Super Smash Bros. Braw...
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I love waking up early in the morning so I can watch these videos while playing SSBB, brings back good memories of six years ago.
6 years again...
I remember when I played with items on and nobody had ever heard of rolls, dodges, or spot dodges.
Rolls, *air dodges, spot dodges
And grabs
Yeah me too
@@sparky6757 the last one doesn’t exist
I would literally watch these every week as a kid even though I didn't even own brawl. They're great videos honestly
I remember watching this years ago...
Wow I remember watching this a long time ago... has it really been 8 years since this came out? MAN I feel old!
+MarioSMG64 This was the first video from shadowofchaos I ever watched... Wow.
@@shyguyshyster1666 And now it's been 8 years since I left this comment 💀
Yeah, crazy how the time flies by. Here I am going back through these after seeing a ShadowofChaos comment on an old MK Wii vid about how Japanese players are brutal in MKW and Brawl.
@@kellamyoshikage286 still true for MK8D and Smash Ultimate!
I love how you're calling yourself a pro and you're on youtube commenting about it.
None of the skilled players I know of go around posting in youtube videos about how they're more skilled than other players. It's a thing we like to call HUMILITY.
Just shut up
shadowofchaos725 Is there any chance you're going to make another "How to dodge Final Smashes" video for when Smash Bros 4 for Wii U and 3DS comes out?
Dunno. I'm not that into smash anymore. We'll see.
shadowofchaos725 Speaking of those Final Smashes, what's your favorite, SOC?
shadowofchaos725 did you
+shadowofchaos725 THIS video has been extremely helpful
i made one!
0:52 This still applies today, and I find it very comedic.
The sole reason I subscribed to him. Content is getting better
we've come a long way
Because that has invincibility frames long enough to outlast it.
Marth's counter on the other hand has a few frame window to outlast Ike's Great Aether activation... and Marth can't outlast his own Final Smash's hitbox with his counter.
And technically, nothing can "counter" a Final Smash. The "counter" we were referring to was the Fire Emblem character's Down B special.
> Four weeks late to insult someone else.
> I simply point it out.
> Starts insulting me.
UA-camrs are so nice these days, showing courtesy and respect.
Im still playing super smash bros. brawl because i only have a wii :/
One thing about Mario Finale is before Mario releases the vortex, up close an invisible aura can damage you once to possibly increase to chance of the attack itself hitting you.
So I think you should also note at keeping your distance when jumping over it.
Yes... but that person had the director account before the cut off date when they removed the ability for new directors to put in videos over 10 minutes...
Anyway... I'll try to upload the full thing anyway... even though I know that there is a 99% chance they will reject it...
Sakurai said himself at one point, that they never considered the competitive scene when making Brawl. He pretty much said "you can do what you want, but we never balanced characters the way other fighting games have."
In terms of overall - End of Day
In terms of damage - Diffusion Beam
In terms of knock-back - Critical Hit
In terms of "flashiness" Triforce Slash/Great Aether
My personal favorite is probably Volt Tackle, but everyone has their own opinion.
why was this reccimended to me after TWELVE YEARS
I really like this guide, it's pretty detailed and you actually got a human player and did a lot of testing it seems. Good job!
Falco's and Wolf's are especially dangerous. Fox's Landmaster probably won't kill you off the top of the screen if you see what they're doing. It depends on the situation, because the benefit of taking advantage of them being in the air is that they can't roll or shoot to damage you.
basically how to dodge the final smashes is, when you die, you stay on your spawn platform until the player's final smash is done, i hope it helps :3
Actually, I think the easiest way to avoid Marth's smash is to try and jump over it as soon as you think he'll use it. Kirby's smash can also be avoided through other ways-- if it's a Melee stage, just stay away, or cliffhang on the farthest ledge from Kirby. I find that it's really useful if you're Kirby and you simply use up-b excessively.
Kirby's timing is his frying pan. Dodge precisely as Kirby hits the pan.
*Ding Ding Ding~!*
*Dodge --- Dodge!*
There's an order as to how the characters on the stage are picked up, but I forget.
LOL... as I said... whatever works for you...
This video was just to help you get an idea of some ways I dodge each individual Final Smash...
What a throwback, Pyra and Mythra are in smash yet im here lul
you have to remember, some of these dodges will only work against a CPU.
Anyone using Mario Finale, for example, knows that you should jump a bit, and use it when the opponent is falling down.
Yes. ALWAYS play with competitive play conditions. Yeah, that totally doesn't get boring for some people fast.
another way to dodge marth's super move is to simple jump over it =3
Not necessarily... Just like any multi-hit move... if you have low enough damage and DI... you can avoid getting owned... however, if you're hit by the stunner portion AND in the center of the attack... it will be harder to do...
YESZ I can...
It wasn't the shield... it was the positioning and some sort of glitch at that time... It happens from time to time with Link and Toon Link when you only get held by the Triforce for a split second, receive damage, but receive no knockback and Link/Toon Link doesn't slash you to oblivion...
Happens more often with Toon Link though...
Look around on UA-cam for it... I saw it a few times...
here is another tips for those Landmaster dodgers dont try spammin the Edge Invincibility when u let go cuz the human opponent will catch on and drop of the edge and start hovering and knock u down works but if it is the Red Landmaster time the Edge invincibility cuz u will need it
This game is meant to be a party game. If you want competitive no-item fighting games, go play Blazblue or something.
Items are luck based, there's no question about that. The question is do you have enough skill to turn the tide in your favor when your opponent has the obvious advantage with a Pokeball, a Franklin Badge, or a glowing mass of death?
Either hope that it ends before you land (lol)
or you should grab the edge behind her....
Anyway, there will be situations where you will NOT be able to do anything about it... Just think about what you should do and do it....
However, jumpers like Pit don't have to rely on the situation if their jumps can outlast the final smash....
Just be aware that Samus can tilt the beam a little, so if she's in the air, don't expect to avoid it by ducking....
I remember watching these vids years ago.
The days.
Pit's down special, if angled up, can block all but the last hit of Samus's Final Smash.
Another thing you could do when Kirby has the smash is if you are using Sheik or Zelda, you can just teleport.
When you recover from getting launched and a double jump won't get you on the platform, you use the up (or whatever helps) special to get back on. But using a "special recovery" will leave you vulnerable for a second, which is the MOST annoying moment when they use a FS. Has that ever happened to you?
For Kirby's Final Smash, you could just stay as far away as possible from him,and you won't be affected by the "Pot Of Doom".
It's just a concept.... It's in the dang "General Tips" section....
The one when Luigi dodges Wario's FS without taking ANY damage without doing anything like this that will obviously won't work for a human player is in Part 3....
Marth's Critical MISS-take.
Such puns from another video.
@lostleadge11 There's a glitch where sometimes Link still damages, when they get in the hitbox, but don't get owned by the Triforce Slash. That doesn't qualify for what I'm trying to show.
@Bravegust This video was before you could hack the games files. I have Ike's Japanese voice in the "Mercy Cannot Rob Justice" video in the very beginning.
Great work, I think also Landmaters are THE most hard final smashes to counter if the player with it knows what he's doing, after 4 years of playing this, my freind still cannot counter me on allowed competitive stages
Although if you are playing to see who is better than items switched off as well as no hazardous stages is the best way to prove your skill and strength of How well you brawl without Outside interferences though items do also prove how well you can manipulate your surroundings to your advantage and how well you can evade and avoid them when the tables are turned.
Damn! I knew Marth's Final Smash was strong, but I had no idea about how cheap it was. Maybe that's another reason tournaments tend to ban smash balls.
another way to avoid cook kirby is be on a large stage i.e Temple,75m,Mushroomy Kingdom,etc.
Cook Kirby has a specific range,though it varies and depends,i suggest you be far way from cook kirby or probably in a magnifying glass that you can easily rebound to
You can also jump + shield for an airborne dodge against Marth's FS. It's a lot easier to do that than roll into him imo.
man i never forget to dodge but i never knew squirtle could do that! and those other abilities! thanks
I haven't watched the whole thing so I don't know if you covered it, but if you're playing as the Pokemon trainer, you can dodge most or all of them by switching Pokemon at the right moment.
@lostleadge11 I can imagine Wolf's reflector being able to dodge it because of the slight invincibility frames when you activate it... but I don't think Fox's can. That would be a bit too... easy ._.
You mean glide? Hold the jump button (X, Y, or C on the Nunchuck)....
It's harder to do with tap jump on as simply holding the control stick up makes you jump repeatedly... You can pull it off, but I don't really know how to do it with just the control stick....
@sk8terboy8899 You can only have text bubbles on wifi with taunts. To taunt on a wii remote differently, A button is default up taunt, hold a d-pad direction sideways + A = side taunt, and down + A = down taunt.
@xXAverageAnythingxX Not likely. There's a lot of people on the internet with "shadow" in their names, and SSBB tags reducing it down make that even more likely that there are people with the same exact tag.
You say these like a teacher. Your awesome.
Actaul note: Be careful when dodging Samus's final smash in the suit, Zero Laser, as like the Vortex it can suck you in if yur close enough
if u are olomar and your opponent is kirby
spam pikman spawn and you'll be fine, plus kirby will spawn a bunch of items which you can loot before he returns to normal
On Kirby's final, I've found one sideroll dodge suffices to avoid it, right as kirby begins the final smash (though, this is only confirmed in a one vs. one fight, where it worked 5 consecutive times in an actual match. It needs further tests in 3 and 4 player fights).
he forgets that kirbys final smash can be doged by jumping as the animations begins
The most Best Guide in SSBB Ever! ^_^
This is actually kind of helpful. I use Squirtle sometimes so i'll try to remember that.
in 0:36, ur RLY right (Don't worry, I use rolling & sidestep a lot) Because if people don't EVEN know sidestep or rolling, they'll never know how to dodge Tabuu's off wave that'll kill you in adventure mode but not in boss battles in stadium (off wave is a wave from his wing that killed almost everyone in the movie
Lolz, I always laugh when Ike says "Flame....PIZZA!" whenever he does his smash. Or sometimes, its "Flaminnnnng...PIZZA!" XD
@shadowtamer6666 Or not because at the time of making the game, Fire Emblem 1 and 3 (aka Marth's games) were Japan only. Only as of February 2009 did Marth have a game localized in English for the DS, which was way after Brawl's release.
[s]Besides, Ike should have used his Japanese voice too. In fact I even switched the voices so that Ike says 「大天空！」 instead of GREAAAAT AEETHEEER whenever I play.[/s]
note: You've got to be more careful with Samus's final smash as hers can suck you in if your close enough
You aren't invincible on the edge. One can simply press Down+A to smash you. Learned this in the original on the N64, but I haven't tried it on Brawl yet...
I can't wait to use these tips in the future if I get this game
For Marth When He activates it in mid-air... (Me as Kirby) Use A move Hich quickly gets you out of the way such as Final Cutter Or Maybe (hint: MAYBE) Aether...
I played as Charizard only in a four player brawl. All not computers. One kid was Fox and he and I were left fighting. He got team smash ball twice and I survive both onslauhts. Then I killed him with a rock smash. It was hilarious. And he was better at the game than me.
This is an excellent contribution to items-on play. Very well put together. :)
@IcarusSkyler Can't counter it. You'll eat the critical hit. If you're not feeling up to dodging it head on, just simply jump over it.
I can escape from all super smashes, it isn't too difficult than it appears, some of they you only have to press Z + a direction comand, and others to take a good distance from the player who takes the smash ball, and if he follow you, only grab him and hit to take off the smash ball...it isn't so difficult to do '-' good luck everybody to make these skills !
In my opinion, Sonics final smash is easy to dodge. But dodging Links final smash is a nightmare, it is impossible. You cant dodge it by rolling left or right, there still is a high chance he will still get you. In one match, you can possibly dodge it maybe one, or no times at all!
Marth: They can "force slash" and save themselves from dying if they jmped and used it...
Kirby: If you have 6 Pikmin already, you might be the first one "selected" as a target...
I'm loving Marth's final smash.
I was playing against a friend as Toon Link.
Mashing Sidestep (shield down) has pretty much 99% success rate in dodging.
If you're up against someone who really knows how to use Marth's Final Smash, you're basically screwed. The best technique I've found is to hit the person while they're in landing lag or trying to attack me to knock the Final Smash out.
Ik this is stupid to reply but whatever.
If you are a person who is an expert of dodging, then that pretty much counters the user being an expert.
I love this game as a party game. I always play with items on, four players, and I usually have tons of fun. I'm stating the facts. If someone won because they got the hammer, would you count that as their skill? No. The hammer spawned, and they got an overpowered weapon. What if you got a goldeen in a pokeball and your opponent got a latios? That would be unfair, because you'd take a lot of damage, or even die. Then you'd be behind, not because of your skill, but because of your opponent's luck
I did some Final Smash Dodges especially Kirby where I did Forward and Backward Rolls to dodge it.
OMG WHY IS MARTH WEARING A WHITE DRESS?
Is cuz it's a woman
Avery Warren This is coming from an FE fan: "That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Even the Yaoi is more believable."
"Marth is a woman now."
The Ike x Marth Yaoi is a lot more believable than that statement.
+animestar206 He has a cape..
@pepperonipizzafan01 You can also move the control stick back and forth after your double jump.
@SuperSonicFan411 that was "360p" back then. It was default to "240p" before.
Because the competitive scene also makes fun of it. Which is why the whole "Melee vs. Brawl" storms start. Arguing "item vs. non-item"... take it somewhere else, because bashing on people who play with items and say "no skill" is bashing on how the creator(s) meant Brawl to be played. You are free to do whatever you want, but the fact still remains that Sakurai and the dev team meant Brawl to be a "party" game.
I'm saying if you want to avoid casuals altogether, play the other "fighting" games.
@0Nessa00 Something about Samus's Zero Laser renders any Super armor moves ineffective... from my experience at least.
you should give more advice for marios final smash, becuase if its used right, it can suck you in even when you jump, like the enemy is on the ground and mario jumps and uses it, staying on the ground will scoop you into it, and if mario jumped, jumping yourself makes it worse, unless you use sonic for his spring jump.
You know your awesome when you block super sonic and survive ganon's final smash
I remember one time I was playing with my cousin and my brother. I was link and my cousin was falco so when used link's final smash on falco he avoided it by using the reflector.
Links final smash has some weird grab to it. Right before he starts slashing and right after the triforce marks show up, O was able to get out of it like it was a grab of some kind.
I was playing brawl with my friend on friday (yes, I lost the match). He was Marth and I was Ike. As soon as Marth's sword appeared with the lens flare, I prepared to do Aether. He thought I would die, but I lived.
Probably the smart thing to do back then. I should probably do it now for convenience's sake for other people...
But then again, my interest in smash in general has diminished over time.
Mr.Awesome: Mario's Final Smash is easy to dodge with Sonic(up special), and all high/multiple jumpers
Yeah... that's like jumping over a bullet made out of Kryptonite with a sword
Cool video!! Thanks on the tips on how to dodge the final smashes! Now when Im playing SSBB and keep dodging the FS my opponents get mad! He He He
The characters with the worst and easiest finale smashes to dodge are:Mario,Marth,Dk,Samus,Mr GAW,Kirby,Zelda\Shiek and Zero Suit Samus.
See, that's why(2:39) I send a guy flying off the edge and wait till he's helplessly falling due to the use of his UP special! Works every time! ( Unless your aponent is Jigglypuff, or any other "floater"for that matter
@Theghostluigi FE Character counters have one frame of invincibility.
@shadowofchaos725
2:34
I'd suggest not to get too close to Mario for that, since there's an invisible aura that burns you for one hit just before the vortex launches. That alone many screw up your timing if you're not careful.
One of the hardest FS to dodge is Marios fs but it depends on how wide the stage is
I use Peach as my main and I'm never one to use my shield. But When Marth is going to do his final smash, I have been able to time mu special up (the parasol) so I can aviod getting hit and it works almost all the time.
With Kirby, you can just grab the edge of the stage and you don't get drawn into the cooking pot.
He has to grab release you... unless you're at a REALLY LOW percentage...
And that doesn't work 100% of the time...