SEBI Proposes 7 Measures To Curb F&O Speculation | SEBI On F&O Trading
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The Securities and Exchange Board of India has proposed new measures in a move to increase investor protection and market stability in the booming derivatives market, including mandating the upfront collection of options premiums from buyers by trading members and clearing members. At present, there is no explicit requirement for upfront collection of options premiums from buyers, although margins are collected for futures positions and short options positions. The market regulator is also mulling to revise the minimum contract size for index derivatives contract in a phased manner. The minimum value of derivatives contract at the time of introduction is proposed to be between Rs 15 lakh to Rs 20 lakh. After six months, the minimum value will be between Rs 20 lakh to Rs 30 lakh.
#sebi #f&o #stockmarket
SEBI has problem with retail traders making money. What a miserable country we live in. 🤣
Absolutely
retail investors are loosing money in f&o
R8
Sebi ki *** jal Rahi hai
@@praneethjayasimha5943 I never knew F&O was even an option for retail folks!, if that's the case then what do these so called "pros" even do?, but there is always a need for foresight cautious policies because people are always driven to find loopholes, people are always pouncing to misuse and mislead 🤦🏽♂️😂🤣😹
I dont know any regulator in the world that makes difficult for retailer traders and every month they are making new rules .nirmal sithraman one of the worst finance minister.
Worst of worst. Principal of. INDIA
True Bhai, ek ek month me ek ek rules,
But the stats shows that 90% are loosing...
please write on that shit paper they release
These two crazy women i.e FM & sebi chairman are making life hell for retail investors & traders total brainless & stupid decisions
😂😂😂 i agree faltu me saree pehenke prakat ho jaati hain dono khoon choosne.
💯
yeah bro.
@@munnapatkar730 akkal to ghutno mein hai... Acche decisions kese le payenge.... Umar ho gyi hai... Fir bhi desh ko barabaad krne pr tule pade hein sasura bahinchod
retail investor are not your kids. these 2 women making hard life for every middle class
Pin!
its my money whether I want to trade and loose or win, SEBI doesn't need to lecture on money management, what sebi is doing when operators are inflating prices of stocks without any fundamentals?
Sebi is also BJP's chamcha now
Yes it is your money go and loose in on line Rummy...FO is for hedging not to play and 95%loosing money all are people like you ... People like Sunder Sores are earning..have sense
@@aurputhamani4894 then you stop trading, its my Liberty to do what I want with my money, when a business like Adani can take 100x loan from bank then nobody questions about over leverage, where is sebi then, what about promoter shareholding of more than 75 percent, Sebi knows everything just selective bias towards retail traders.
@@aurputhamani4894 It is my money, I do whatever I want. SEBI chairman shd resign on this ultra. stupid, brainfked decision. For the first time Retail traders were making money and SEBI cdn't digest the fact. The govt. wants to make Indian market attaractive for FPI and FIIs once agin at the expense of retail junta. everywhere the BJP ppl fk retail ppl whether tax or stock market. The return on Taxes is absolute zero (negative infact), govt. shd reduce taxes when it is failing to provide a single benefit to its citizens but the fkd up govt only increases taxes. No ONE shd vote for BJP again.
@@aurputhamani4894keep chugging that BJPig D
They don't have problem with retailers losing money in market. They actually have problem with increasing number of retailers making money and collectively giving competition to big Institutions.
Who introduced weekly options? Who decreased contract size? Who increased transaction charges? But issue is because of retailers .
Actually they don't know, what they have been doing.
It's purely because of sebi who allowed multiple expiries almost everyday and decreasing contract size, and finfluencers on UA-cam..
Simple is ban F/O ...now without F/O people will search for junk shares below 1 rupees. Operator will be active again and play with junk shares
thats even worse
tehi toh plot hai, bakwaas loss making startups ko tax free fubding dilao aur kakka IPOs karwao. phir wahi junk shares ko badhawa do.
sahi baat hai
and also Forex market and betting app pe flow badh jaye ga
Bro, In reality , Derivatives cannot be banned, as FII and DII will have huge Hedge against there portfolios, and any developed or developing markets will not dare of remove it. And that is the reason it exists in first place. But it incidentally became a big hit for speculation during corona and rest is history. So most of the retirees and conservative investors choose to invest in Gold and Debt funds rather than FDs for better returns. So in order to restrict that and increase bank FD inflows, they removed indexation on debt funds. Now they claim that household savings are going into F&O and so they are doing this step again to increase bank savings. When inflation is so high ,why would any sensible person go for FD which is a TDS instrument with such low returns. This country is in a big mess.
Does SEBI understand that market needs liquidity to operate?
if they did they wouldn't have fucked the currency markets a few months ago
EVEN ENTIRE MARKET IS FULL OF SPECULATION...BAN ENTIRE MARKET AND SHUTDOWN SEBI ALSO
This is Mohd. bin Tughlaq business, only 2 months ago they dropped the nifty lot size to 25 from 50. were they sleeping then?
Very good anology :)
fattening the sheep and butchering them when they're addicted. ofc this will not drive traders away from the market - it's just higher losses, higher STT, PROFIT for govt freebies..
in all seriousness, I'm tired of this nanny state behaviour
This expert has never done any FNO trading it appears, he is not able to articulate proper words for the issue.
I don't understand one single thing is that why SEBI & GOVERNMENT restricting retailers trader to trade in the market..... It's retailer's money whether they wanna invest or trade they can. They are not using SEBI OR GOVERNMENT money for trading. Who the fck they are to stop practicing the retailers in the market 🤬
The illusion is breaking, that is whats happening, wait till they crack down on social media where middle class people are earning a lot.
please close stock market
stock market is not a casino
Sebi is the one who made it casino u fool@@praneethjayasimha5943
SEBI should educate retail traders, instead of making it out of reach of retail traders. Complete absurd thing. Status co should be maintained. This is a proposal, we retail traders should raise our voice in appropriate platform. There will be discussion on this as per SEBI circular, we all should give our opinion.
Only well educated people think about it instead of this type of dummy proposes introduced by SEBI. 😂😂
This proposes show sebi talent😂😂😂 giving 0/5
BJP ko vote dena band , mere pariwar se kariban 800 se 1000 vote BJP ko jate hai. Abki barr NO BJP SARKAR. We hate Madam Sitaraman, coz of her limited knowledge 😊
Pagal, SEBI BJP nahi hai. Pappu hai kya
Is pariwar ko zilla ghostit Q nahi kar dete😂😂
@@sanjeevsharma9998tera baap muji hi real pappu nikla 😂😂
Nothing to compensate for glitches. Nothing to stop manipulation injection by fund houses and props and quants. But f**k the retailer. That's the top priority. Wah SEBI. Wah. 👏👏👏 Fantastic
I will never vote for BJP again
why speculation? get a job
Then why stock market is there man?@@praneethjayasimha5943
Yes pathetic gov decisions now a days
Bevkuf😂
Actually you should be punished more by making ltcg as equal to personal income
Intead of restricting retailer, the bloody braindead SEBI should work on reducing these sudden spikes (injection candles) and remove sensex, bankex, midcpnifty and finnifty contracts forever and keep only 2 expiries as they were earlier. Just because few retailers r lossing money this doesn't make any good for those who r making money.
One of Sensex or Bankex should be there
Sebi is not against retailer loosing money...they are against retailer who aare making money
Sebi ki jal Rahi hai retailer ko kamate dekh
Few retailers?
95 to 99% retailers are losing money in F&O
Sebi should make a policy that, only the Demat accounts which are 5yrs+ old should be able to enable F&O segment. This will push away all the newbies out of the FnO market. This will be a Simple and effective method.
This is the reason why many profitable investors and traders are leaving India and shifting to Dubai. First Nirmala Aunty made life miserable with taxes, now SEBI's top boss is making retail participation in derivatives market more tough.
Sebi is an organization run by old people who are not ready to move as fast as modern times. Forget about introducing FOREX and crypto trading, these fools are now making life of retail traders difficult by not allowing to participate even in derivatives section.
Nirmala anuty's final weapon against retail traders...
understand why millionares are leaving our country
and many HNI traders have already left
just because of these type of regulators
they are seeing people are learning now and making profits.
earlier it was only 5% but now its 14%
SEBI is worst regulator
and nimmo tai is unbelievably disgusting FM COUNTRY ever saw
indexation khatam
LGTG INCREASED
see the greed,even stt is doubled.
aur kitna lootoge retailers ko
answer is volatility due to retailers ... big players who make 'long duration' positions are not liking this volatility , with big money things become more difficult to manage . premiums move more than 50-100 % in a day, frequently after a day or two ,sellers do not like this thing especially big fishes . Thousands of people die for trivial reasons due to govt ignorance , govt has already been grabbing money out of taxes from common man . They are actually serving to big players in the guise of 'savers of common man' .
95% of money inflow is from institutions and 5% from retailers. Retailers have no power over volatility in options.
you told truth
@@teddysimz6043 😄 it was past , it has gone up to 40 %
SEBI has problem that retail traders are earning and having alternate source income and be financial independent . Pathetic. US has introduced 0 DTE contracts and here SEBI is limiting that. In INDIA, Goverment agencies look way how not to encourage business.
What a shameful act by SEBI, at one hand they want they want retail to hold the markets, but then snatch away level playing field.
Eventually, big money will only have control over markets speculation, which is far more dangerous.
Govt and SEBI are the biggest bears of the Indian stock market. Every time market tries to go up, SEBI comes out with various vague statements like there is froth in the market, etc. First, there is unemployment and here people are trying to make money with their own tax paid money, they are creating hurdles.
Traders were/are already paying full amount while buying an index option. There is no margin advantage. Margin for options comes only if you are a option seller or buy Stock options in last week of expiry due to delivery commitment requirement. I do not understand why is there margin word being used to Option buyers?
But I am really amazed by the Govt's stance here & of course SEBI. All of them are working ONLY in the interest of the rich & super rich. If Govt was so concerned about common middle class, they should have ideally increased FD rates & removed TDS as well. But they are ensuring the middle class becomes more poor & taking away any chance of it making extra money to meet household expenses. Shame !!!
What are the measures to stop injection?? The actual problem
Injection is where I make money; Once the injection is over; just wait for a retracement of 10% of the previous injection candle and do the ulta trade and I sleep happily.
Retailers se itni problem???
Retailers ne SIP bandh kar di tou akal thikane aa jayegi! Maybe retailers are spoiling operators game. Seriously it’s heights! Galat sarkar ko vote diya regretting from bottom of my heart.
They should stop. Mutual fund AMC are zero risk commission based business model where entire risk is Bourne by investor. They also provide exit to operator at high valuation. After all any fund track their respective benchmark index. the risk of benchmark index itself being overvalued is completely taken by investor. No education on howto value an stock asset is known to investors.
such a sick country we live in, they are just worried about how can retailers take good profits, this is the main problem of this sebi
I think brokers will increase brokerage charges if f&o trading restricted for retailers bcz their main profit is from f&o trading
One Simple rule can cure all the problem. Mandatory risk per day on the capital employed at 10 to 15%, like ceiling. So, the moment you hit the level account gets locked for the day. Alternatively, the trader must have a NSE/BSE/SEBI certified derivative trader certification to enter derivatives market. Education improves quality of trades.
wow .. wow...
Sebi doesn't want that. Indirectly they want retailers to loose more than before.. that's why they have increased the contract size so that sl will be high, over trading won't reduce, retail participation wont reduce, people will pay more tax..
You will see after some months that collection done by government has multiplied by 3x minimum. Comment here than.
Because it's simple, many people ( including me) whoever is in this market for more than 3years is profitable now and earning good money. They doesn't want that. Because only if we loose the rich will earn more.
As a fair playing field , SEBI should also seriously consider suggestions from our retailers and can weigh and prioritize the most suggested and requested points and see to work towards implementing them , rather than taking such senseless decision based on some advisers who don't even know the spelling of derivatives. Bro these are some good suggestion by you, but they will need to put effort to implement such compliance and governance, so they will not be entertained. Instead these increase decrease methods will only be implemented.
Fix loss quantity for year per lot
Sebi should make a policy that, only the Demat accounts which are 5yrs+ old should be able to enable F&O segment. This will push away all the newbies out of the FnO market. This will be a Simple and effective method.
So many students appear for upsc, iit, neet but only small percentage of them get selected, does it mean to stopping students to appear in these exam, then why f&0 is being regulated too much and the more risky is fantasy gaming which govt. has allowed but not letting them invest in financial instruments, we are in multi year bull run and this will normalize over time, if you resist buyers then how will the sellers make money and vice versa
This will also drastically decrease government tax income as well. Very minimum people will be able to trade. Loss for retailers, loss for broker, Algo platform will be closed. Pathetic condition of India. Tweet against SEBI. Worst regulation organisation SEBI
i regret so much voting for modi...
meri poori family ne decide kar liya hai...kabhi bhi doara modi ko vote nahi denge....
SEBI RATHER BAN RETAIL TRADERS, CRAZY RULES
Sebi need to rethink on F&O decision
Sebi is curbing the retail traders in f&o segment. They should limit the orders. They should curb the large bucket orders if they really wanted to take care of retail traders.
What about taxing fii and fpi. Let them pay tax here in India and no special treatment for them...
No vote for bjp
go and do gambling then
Bjp gov is going to break by next year
Dream 11 ,rammy circle etc good but f&o is gambling 😂😂🤣🤣@@praneethjayasimha5943
@@praneethjayasimha5943 NO I will make a team in DREAM 11
Until the FII, DII, MUTUAL FUND HOUSES are restricted to participate in weekly expiry, the problem will not be solved.
If govt really cared for people and had some shame, it would work to increase FD interest rate and reduce the inflation.
Ppl should ban trading for quite some time and let govt left with peanuts in the name of charges.
Only one thing is need of the moment, put one expiry per index per month . That's the only way to protect retaile traders..
As SEBI chair has suggested F&O is becoming a macro issue with 60000 crore of household savings being lost, I would like to point out...
According to this logic she should float a proposal to ban all competitions exams as..
For example in UPSC
Around 10L aspirant fill form
5L appear for exam
For which let's assume they take coaching investing around
2L as fees
So 5,00,000 X 2,00,000= 100,000,000,000 ₹ of household savings are "lost" as only 1000 candidates will be selected!!
P.S. I'm not accounting for opportunity cost of other exams ( CAT, NEET, JEE, NET & Others combined!!
As a bjp fan and i am very very disappoint regarding policy towards stock market and even here also they want to hunt middle class
I too
SEBI is not BJP. SEBI is an independent regulator like TRAI or RBI. Paapu mat bano
@@sanjeevsharma9998Market ka naya gyani baba kahan the? Rbi sebi cbi ed everything is independant in india 😂😂😅
@@amitranjan5068 just like Judiciary. They are more independent than were in congress era...
@@sanjeevsharma9998kitna chaatoge BJPig ka G, stop it, get some help
Cigarette smokkng and Alcohol consumption is injurious to health but never banned , fno trading is harmful to retail trades and they are never banned . If it is banned they won't get money.
What about disciplined small option trader having less than 10k capital.
SEBI don't think about Desiplined Retail tarders.
Why only rich is allow to trade in Options very bad decisions.
Big Dissapointment from BJP, SEBI.😟
They can set exam for eligibilty criteria for F&O but they are just ruining the middle class Disciplined full time Retail traders .
😓😕😕
Surpanakha ki wajah se Ramayan hui and draupadi ki wajah se Mahabharata.
Ab Sitaraman aur Buch ki wajah se Ramayan aur Mahabharat dono hogi😢😢
Now people will shift to dabba trading and forex trading
Black day for Indian traders. Margin on option buy duniya mein kahi nahi hai. Came up as a regulator now dictator . Please MBA Ca and CFA ke syllabus se bhi FNO remove karva do padhne ka kya fayda jab uske according kar hi nahi sakte
Best time to remove this sebi madam from her job. 😂😂😂
So many retail traders will stop trading F&O
That's good.. Very good
SEBI killed retailers dreams
Deven sir is absolutely right, but we live in a country where the'd rather bring these nonsense measures than increasing qualification for the entry in f&o market like mandatory nism certification. They want retailers to loose money but on their terms. SAD.
After losing so much money in F&O people are now starting to make money by upskill themselves and getting experience in the market, but they again pull down retailers like this.
we signed up for the risks involved that doesn't mean you can change eligibility or entry based on capital. it is sad to see pur govt is so bad
Nothing should be changed...😢
Both old woman should resign.
The dream of 3 largest economy will remain dream. Thanks to FM 🙏🏻
These two women will destroy bjp..pappu of bjp,
SEBI & FM both have dumb bosses, if the tax on LTCG gain is removed & STCG gain is lowered on equity investments & MF, then automatically retail traders loosing money will stop trading & volumes will lower automatically.
Comment section proves Sebi actions are justified lol.
Why not to end all weekly expiries? Why weekly expiries needed?
SEBI's move seems a gimmick rather than real effort to save 50000 crores of losses to retail investors due to f&o trading
Why can't SEBI bring yearly and decadal expiry contracts to ensure long term price discovery and stability?
Worst decisions. These conditions discouraging traders. People will shift to crypto, forex trading or betting apps. Volumes will be reduced drastically, the FNO trading totally closed with the time passes.
WHO DONE THIS ALL DAILY EXPRIY LOT SIZE ..... THEY ONLY DONE THIS N ALSO INCRES GST TAX ... BAKWAS GOVERMENT INDEX WILL NOT MOVE AS NOW N ITS IN DIRACTLY IMPACT MF MUTALFUND ..................................................
Basically...now retailers have more liquidity than the manipulative institutions, which is currently more expensive for these institutions just to manipulate even minor fluctuations
I like single expiry in one week.....
Daily expiry is super bad..... I lost continuously after SEBI introduced Daily Expiry ❤❤❤❤
Sebi and nirmala are bent on destroying the retail traders....but what did they do in the Adani case or other such cases. Sebi doesn't want middle class people to earn and invest. They have already increased the taxes on us and now all these.
All the efforts went in vein . I've given a long time learning market and now sebi has decided to save me by making things difficult for me.
First they cleverly removed the leavarage given by brokerage firms for equity trading. They made everyone should trade in options.
If they bring back that rule many people will go back to equity trading.
The speculation will increase 100x with this kind of SEBI measures
Why NDTV is so late to make this news, it is already in public domain.
Today, sebi has floated latest consultation paper... Making it much more likely for these rules to be implemented in 2 phases..
Govt have to first ban IPL, and arrest big cricket players for encouraging betting apps, those are got permission from govt.
Worst and blind decisions.... from recent days SEBI against to retail traders so doing this. Stock market trading is a career in all world markets. Educate the new traders is the only option.
UPSC success rate 0.01% and its also destroying many students young age and hard money, so what to do.
SEBI madam - why don’t you lock the NSE and BSE and tell the investors that whoever invested before the budget can come back after 1 year, pay 14% lagaan and if the govt agrees, you can take your money back
I am using Options for hedging my positions in Cash. If SEBI increase the contract size, it will be quite difficult to invest 25 to 30 lacs in a single stock. And investing so much money in one stock increases the risk. I think SEBI is defeating the purpose of the Options 😢
Lot size is increasing only in index not in stocks
@@sidhantsinghi In that case, it will be Ok. Thanks for info.
If they really want to help retailers, they can bring a rule that , only people with annual income more than 10 lakhs per year, and filed income tax last year can trade in F&O. But they simply want to help the big players.
Sebi should make a policy that, only the Demat accounts which are 5yrs+ old should be able to enable F&O segment. This will push away all the newbies out of the FnO market. This will be a Simple and effective method.
There is a name for the Government making policy changes to make the market behave in a certain manner, it is called market manipulation. The regulator's job is to make sure that the companies don't lie in their books, not to change people's minds.
When will they implement these decisions?
Very good aur vote doo. Acha hai
Why is no one talking about online gambling and the lottery market. Shouldn’t the government be doing something about it too. Why only F and O???
Sebi approved weekly expiry options if sebi did not think long term but only short term then Is sebi decision speculative ? 😂😂 will sebi accept their mistake of approval of weekly expiry options
Allow F&O trading equivalent to not more than an individual's portfolio as a hedging. If someone has 5 lakh portfolio, allow 1 lot to trade at a given time.
If sebi really wanted to save retailers then they should not increase LTCG tax and STCG tax and In f&O segment your decision parallely against those who are not speculating, all speculators are not professional but actual professional will become unemployed due to this margin rule
Every body should invest in good debt funds if you fall in 30 percent tax bracket.i am doing so from this year.20 percent capital gains tax and low volatility.other 50 percent of my principal in arbitrate funds.no stress no volatility.free from equity stress.bye bye equity.5cr in arbitrage kotak and 2.5 cr in ICICI prudential short term debt fund and I will redeem only if needed and that is also the amount I need not All.no f and o no equity fund.so happy with budget 20 percent capital gains for debt.thank you FM
Very Well said Deven Sir.. I understand that Sebi proposal is one sided without due consultation with stake holders in fair manner. Anyways SEBI chairperson keep on talking about companies at multiple platform (for e.g. PayTM) which shows the maturity of the person holding the post.
SEBI IS THE ONE OF THE WORST EXCHANGE BOARD IN THE WORLD
Job toh hai hi nahi toh Monthly income /salary ke liye Yuva share market mein ayegi hi.Isme curb karne ke liye kuch v karlo.
STCG and LTCG increased to 20% , 12.5% , Koi sharma hi ? ... STT again increased .. koi lajja hi ... 😪
Most insrticulate person to communicate these changes
Inarticulate you mean ? Yes, broken English shit is cringe
They don't want to encourage speculation so introduced LTCG, Retail investors are able to speculate the market for a duration more than a year also through MF's , SIP😂😂
Bhai logo paisa jama karo aur bhaago is desh se 😂
I trade 1-3 lot max for small profits and exit the market.
Now i wanna trade more, how will it save me??
In past years, 70% of losses consist of taxes & brokerage especially STUPID TAXES n charges.
GVT motives is to get more taxes out of us..
Cigarette alcohol is bad so put more taxes.
Gambling crypto is bad for people, instead of restricting , let me make money out people by putting more taxes.
Exit Indian markets..without retail traders there is no market.every decision from BJP hits directly to middleclass
BJP is against misdleclass families, not to earn money
Vote out Modi
Stupid proposal.
The problem is for SEBI is that why house hold savings are being deployed for F&O, instead of that send them to MF and FD, so that government and banks and institution can earn. You retailer has no right to earn money simply because you are wasting this money. Understand that concern 😢
90% of Retail investors buy options. Now if the contract size is increased; retailer will go and buy far OTM options and will loose money easily; SEBI please don't screw the retailers.
If contract size increase Market parcicipants will be decreased .If there are less participants market will not go up.
Sebi should stop destroying and demotivating retail traders. For every new changes, public retail voting should make as must.
Kya bakwaas chal raha hai❤woh hamara paisa hai hum kahi bhi lagaye sebi sirf stock market main interfere kre hamare life main nhi