Hi Matt, I used to make aluminum beer and beverage cans for a living. I haven't read all of the comments so maybe someone has already mentioned this. The body of the can (inside and outside) has a coating from the mill, The top of the can (inside and outside) has a coating from the mill and also has a rubberized compound sprayed onto the surface where it is sealed onto the body, The coating thickness varies, Soda pop cans have a thicker coating than beer cans. The coating can be coloured to suit the customers requirements, which is why some cans have coloured tops. The clear Tab (Ring Pull) typically does NOT have any coating, but the coloured tabs are coated. This is why the clear tabs get a higher price. Best bang for the buck would be to remove the clear tabs and melt the rest into ingots.
Saw an interesting video where a beverage can (full with lid popped) was immersed in acid for 24 hours. Came out with no metal and the liquid enclosed in the internal coating.
My father inlaw needs to move . He has a huge pile of cans in the barn . I'm trying to figure out what's the best fastest way to flatten them out to take to sell ? I'm thinking shoveling them on to a tarp. Fold the tarp over , throw a piece of plywood or somthing over them then drive the truck over them ? Any suggestions, we need to save time because we have alot to move plus these cans ! Thanks
Cody, apologies for the late reply. The reason for the delay is, i've been thinking each day of how you could crush all these cans quickly. I've thought of laying your tarp on top of the cans and criss crossing driving your truck all over them. An 8" x 4"ft plyboard on top of the tarp, but then you risk the plyboard snapping and damaging the underneath of your truck. All i can think of is wrap each load of cans in the tarp, cut your plyboard to 2ft wide and maybe with the 8ft lengths connect them with wood. Drill screws into the top of the plyboard and attach them with wide pieces of wood underneath to hold the plyboard together, then you will have a run of 16ft. Aim for the outer side driving forward and then the inner side reversing. You'll probably have cans being forced to the edges, but that is nothing to the bulk you will be crushing. I'd be interested to hear how you get on, plus the price that you get for the cans in your area/country. I hope that helps. Best wishes, Matt.
Just found this video 3 years after it was posted and am amazed. Very educational and the ring pulls, well I checked on ebay and was pleasantly surprised.
I have at least 2 tons of smashed cans and was thinking of building a smelter to process them and sit on the ingots, but the more I look into that the more hesitent I become, but pulling the tabs off is a no brainer. I'll still build the oven for melting my copper and brass and also for prospecting to do my own assays and thank you Matt for the heads up on the pulltabs!
Great idea!!! I am a teacher that has mostly low income students. If we work collectively like ants, this a great idea to help pay for our freshman class trip. Thank you for sharing
Hi William, get them working like ants on the cans, but also don't forget ANY METAL has a price when weighed. Get them to pick up any metal, ask their neighbours for metal. Also any old electronics. Copper in the cables, brass in the plugs. If someone is having their bathroom renovated, take the taps off the bath and sink, the old shower is brass as well. Gas boilers. Any metal, just get them bringing it in and as I said any electronics. I'd be really interested how you get on. Hope you'll let me know. Once my health gets a little better I'll record a video on how much I got paid for my cans. Hopefully it won't be too long. I'd love you to stay in contact and keep me updated. Say Hi to all your pupils who are involved, from me. Best wishes Matt. P.S. can you let me know what part of the world you are based as well pleased. Many thanks.
Here in Western Australia and in most parts of the country, we are subsidised 10c for each beverage container including aluminium cans. The bit about tabs is the most interesting for me given that remuneration would be an extra for those. Thanks Mad Matt!
Daniel I was horrified at getting only 5p a kg, I had to see how much I could get out of a kilo. I wish we were subsidised over here. I have an idea about the silver tabs turning them into more money. Once I've done a few experiments and worked out the facts and figures I'm hoping to make a video about it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated.
Same in Queensland, I used to collect, crush and bag cans to take to scrap metal dealer 200km away( helped pay petrol costs.) Once the 10cent per can and a local drop off point came into effect, I no longer have to deal with how to get 100 to 200 kg of crushed cans down to the coast and now getting 10 times amount of money in the process.
In British Columbia, Canada we pay up front 10cents per can. That is paid back if you bring the empty cans back to a depot. The refund is worth far more than the metal.
Bloody Well Done. I moved bales of paper to a recycler Made a friend in Chicago ,Dared me to Scrap for 6 months. Best bet did it for 7 years might start back up. Learning all the time in Buisneeses. Good luck 👍. Keep.up.the Good Work.
Robert obviously just reading your second comment now. If you want me to try anything or ask questions at these mills 'IF' they give me access, just drop me a comment or email. Prices are on the up. I think I did a video about copper prices. I think it was something like Copper to we Buy, Hold or Sell. That will explain the surge in prices expected. Aluminium is also one to watch out for. I believe the reason for the slow increase in price is that manufacturers are using it instead of more expensive metals. I'll hopefully find out more when I visit the mills. Best wishes, Matt.
This would be a perfect job for a person with an OCD disorder! who in their right mind would have or take the time out of their day to cut aluminum cans into strips?
What a breath of fresh Air to watch your video. Thank You, God Bless and stay safe! Now I need to work it all out in U.S. and find where I can sell all of the parts. Sure makes me appreciate my Brothers (and Sisters) in other Countries. Your Wonderful! Thanks!
in the U.S. we get .10/can deposit to return it. which equals $6.70 / 67 cans or per kg. you can however remove the tabs and sell those separately for the ebay money. you can also theoretically remove the tops and the bottoms as the automatic returns just scan the bar code which is on the outside of the can. so, you would get the money for the tabs, the metal from the tops and the bottoms and still the .10/can deposit.
Bob, it's fascinating how every country works it differently. Both the US and Canada are subsidised. They did try one of those scanners in a supermarket in the UK years ago, but unfortunately some people found a way round of getting multiple amounts for a can so they stopped it. Really appreciate your comment, fascinating.
I can cut about 100 cans in 2 hours, so if my maths is correct, if I did that 100 cans a day, it would take 670 days to cut that many best part of 2 years). You could be watching a film or some sort of sports match and rather than just sitting there, cut the cans and you won't notice the time go by. It is a very, very long project for anyone to undertake. The good new at the moment is Aluminium (Aluminum) has always been a low priced metal. However, at the moment it is surging in price. I believe the main factor behind it is that electronic producers are looking to use aluminium to replicate more expensive metals, such as gold and silver in their items. Whatever the reason it's worth keeping, plus it doesn't rust. With the video at least it gives people a more informed choice whether to cut and collect or not bother. I hope that answers you're question. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe, Matt.
Doug, after getting a pitiful 5p a kg I had to see the maximum I could get. It also gives the viewer a more informed choice of whether to cut & collect or not to bother. It's a very, very long project if anyone chooses to do so. There are many people out there who want big money NOW. If they thought of themselves as Guerrilla investors. A little bit from here, there, many places it soon adds up. Then they have the option to invest in things that might bring more profit more quickly, but keep plugging away at their bread and butter. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Matt, in reading your answer, they were my thoughts exactly. If people saw it as giving away their hard-earned cash to other people (passers-by), who worked for none of it, perhaps they would think twice about their methodology. Wisdom and KNOWLEDGE, and just a touch of patience and TIMING begets wealth, not impulse and impatience. All that you explained, I DID when I lived in Texas. Now retired and settled in Florida, I will ONCE AGAIN practice what you recommend...why settle for pennies (pence), when one can garner REAL money, with but a little time and patience. LOVE your site...keep it coming... I'm all ears. Great work !!! Doug, Florida, USA
Where I live, there’s a 5 cent deposit on aluminum cans and glass and plastic bottles, when you purchase beer, soda, etc. When you return your cans and bottles to the redemption center, you get your 5 cents back. So here, you can collect bottles and cans and turn them in for 5 cents each. But we do remove the ring pulls on cans for aluminum scrapping.
I understand where you are coming from. Perhaps look at it another way, if you were to watch a football match or film, you could sort your cans out while you're watching the TV, or you could watch the TV and not do anything resulting in no money at all. As you say if you factor in the labour costs and you were doing this day in day out then yes you would end up not only in the poor house but on the streets. Scrapping is a full time job for quite alot of people, but to me it's just a hobby. I enjoy taking things apart trying to work out how they work. I do it more for the enjoyment than financial gain. Many thanks for another interesting comment. Matt.
Hi Critical Look. I just released a new video. Copper Do we Buy, Sell or Hold. Please be aware I had another mini stroke not many days before recording, that's why I'm a bit out of it in the video, plus I've got to take one more tablet to try and control my symptoms so it makes me a bit spaced out. I'd be interested in your views, if you watch it from start to finish. I mention it to you as your comments have made me think alot and you are honest and straight to the point with your comments which I like.. Best wishes, Matt.
Hello again. I recently found out alot of information regarding aluminium (Aluminum). I'm hoping after this lockdown to visit an Aluminium Mill and maybe other metal mills as time goes by. With the different types of Aluminium if they are melted into an ingot that puts a big question mark over how much they are worth as different types of aluminium have been used to make that ingot. Fingers crossed one of these mills will allow me in and we can all have the answers we have been looking for, plus an even more insightful look into the understanding of this metal. Hope you are safe and well. Missing your Critical Look on my latest Copper videos!!! Speak soon. Matt.
i would never consider working on a can so much. wow. why do you spend the time to shred up the can? we're getting 50c per pound (about $1.10 per kg) in texas
When I saw "aluminium" I knew it would be from a European viewpoint; and then I heard your speech and I knew. :) Very cool. Here in the States, you need a large box truck full of cans (thousands) to make it worth even taking it to the collection site. I just give my empties to a neighbor who doesn't mind doing all that work.
My Welsh accent gave it away. I hope my accent isn't too strong. I've had many people from all over the world comment or email. Parts of Australia have a subsidy from the Government to make it worth their while. Canada runs the same deposit scheme as some states in the U.S. We get a pitiful 5p per kg. What originally started out as a video, how to get the most from a kg of soda cans, has now taken quite a big leap. I don't know whether you have seen people making Aluminum (I hope I spelt that the correct North American way) ingots? I found out last week that there are many different types of Aluminum. As Aluminum is an alloy they could, for example, add more tin and zinc to one mix, maybe more tin less zinc to another. People who melt these ingots are using different types of Aluminum making it difficult for analysts to even put a price on them, they probably are almost worthless. After lockdown has finished here in Wales (England, Scotland and Northern Ireland all have their separate rules for lockdown) I am hoping to visit an Aluminum Mill where I will hopefully be allowed to video and interview one of the Directors. There seems to be a big blank in peoples knowledge of what happens to the scrap after you drop it off at the yard and where it goes, what happens to it, how do they separate the materials and how do they resmelt it. Fingers crossed they will allow me in and not only will I get my answers but hopefully whoever watches the video will get their questions answered. I've written an essay, almost a book in response to your comment...lol. Many thanks for your comment, I appreciate it very much. Stay safe. Matt.
Chris, after receiving a pitiful 5p per kg, I had to see how much I could possibly get from a kg of cans. I just scrap for a hobby. I go through times where I might cut and collect a 1000 cans then not touch any for months. If anybody decides to do it, they can now make a more informed choice. However you look at it, if you decide to cut and collect it's a long term project. However in these times of survival any money is better than none. Many thanks for your comment. Thanks for letting me know.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 unless you just enjoy cutting them up like that - you might want to see if theres a better place to sell to. Aluminum is essentially a world wide price and it is around 1$ usd per lb at the time (with scrappers at a good yard getting 3/4 to 2/3 of market price)
Hi matt liked and subscribed to your channel. I myself collect aluminium cans .I also collect the ring pulls .but I never thought of cutting the top and bottoms of so it's clean aluminium. from now on ill be following your method. What a great video and very informative m8 👍
Hey buddy, been thinking of you after watching your videos. I;m not fully up to date, but i'm getting there. Any chance you can email me when you've got time? don39t_give_up202063@aol.com
Some 45 years ago my grandmother used to have us collect the ring pulls which she then sent to a charity. That was in the day when they came all the way off.
My 150 sheet paper shredder will finally be worth buying I had it for a year and not used it to much Edit I had an empty can I put it in the shredder it shred the thicc part to
That's one heck of a powerful machine you've got there. One subscriber suggested I soak the cans in Acetone, use wire wool to get the remaining paint off and the whole can would be clean ally. I haven't looked into the chemical properties of Acetone yet. Powdered Citric Acid is amazing stuff. I used it to get all the rust off old vintage tools when I was renovating them. I could use that and use wire wool to get the remainder of the paint off. What started as a video that I originally made because I got a pitiful 5p kg and I wanted to see the maximum I could get out of kg of cans, has turned out to be fascinating. USA different states pay different amounts per can, the same in Canada, Australia they have some sort of subsidy in place, while the UK we get a pitiful amount. Many thanks for your comment. I'll be looking up the price of 150 sheet paper shredders now..lol. Your feed back is much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt,
@@ramblingman8992 I'm going to try an experiment soon that should take the ink and food safe lining off at the same time. I'll also take the can down the yard and see what they class the top and bottom as and then the middle section. I'm expecting some kind of rolled ally for the middle. We'll see what they say. I'll make a video once I've got it sorted and it'll be interesting to see what they say. Thanks again for your comment. Stay safe. Matt.
I’ve only started collecting and have been using a can opener sideways to pop the top since the top and body are made from two different alloys. I never realized there was such a market for the ring pulls! Thanks much for the info!! Nice work! Also, I think it might be Canada Dry that has a green ring pull.
Michael if they are green you'll definitely get a good price for them on Ebay. with the silver ring pulls I might have an idea how to make them different colours. When I've got everything together I'll make a video. If it works then we are all going to benefit, if it doesn't you can all have a good laugh at my expense. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
in Australia they raised the price of all aluminium cans by 15 cents each and opened recycle centres that pay 10 cents per can or glass plastic bottle... so once per month 3 of us load up the car and sell 35 to 55 $ worth and go to lunch at the club... obviously people walk the streets and raid rubbish bins for the cans and bottles so at least we have more recycling. years ago we would separate out our glass and cns into the recycle bin, but depending upon their logistics those trucks sometimes just dumped the pure recycle into the main waste dump...
So that is how it works in Australia. I've had alot of comments from Australia saying they receive 10 cents per can. I didn't know about the glass bottles. That's an excellent incentive. Some other subscribers from Australia said that only certain parts of the country receive the 10 cents? It's very similar to parts of USA. Some states give a similar amount per can, then other states don't pay anything. Canada has a deposit scheme on cans and glass alcohol bottles as well. Subscribers in Switzerland and Germany said it's illegal to scrap in their countries, everything is taken away by their local authority. Germany pays money per can with the deposit scheme as well. In the UK they have pushed hard for as much to be recycled as possible. We have a bin for bottles, a bag for paper, a bag for cardboard and another bag for plastics, foil, orange juice cartons and a couple more things. It's time consuming but they collect bin bags every 2 weeks. If they see any items in there that should be recycled they leave the bag and a note saying why they won't take the bags. As the cans are in small bags I could easily collect 20,000 cans in a week. Imagine that if you had 20,000 cans per week at 10 cents a can!!! What do I get for a kg (2.2lb) 67 cans? A pitiful 5 pence. I think that is about 2.5 cents in your currency. Many thanks for watching the video and commenting, both are very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 you cannot sell refund on plastic milk bottles, nor wine bottles, nor aerosol cans but almost everything else earns ten cents ...
As regards assets. Try taking a look at one of my latest video. I think it is called Sold Copper or Scrap metal - what do we invest our money in? It doesn't take much money to start and gives you a profit within 2-3 years. Hope that proves of use as well. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Nice job and a very informative eye opener but what if you just powder coat (paint) the silver pull tabs any color you want wouldn't that be a easier and faster way of making more money? Just wondering if it'd be feasible I hope you can good luck and thank you for the information
That's an interesting idea. I'll Google that and see what comes up. The people who buy the pull tabs use them to make earrings, jewellery, knitting, crotchet, they are just some I have heard about. I wonder if what you suggest would be possible without any harm caused to people wearing the jewellery? I'll look into it. If I find anything out i'll let you know. Many thanks for your comment, really interesting. Best wishes.
Clifford Davis The color tabs are anodized, not powder coated. Two different beasts. The combined cost of the powder coat equipment and material, oven, electricity, and labor, all detracts from your profits. :
Mad Matt's Bucket List Powder coating is essentially toner for laser printers, but available in a larger range of colors, and of course at higher prices due to marketing strategies. .
@@criticallook5162 Interesting you should point this out. I've had other subscribers suggesting ways of colouring the pull rings, plus ways of getting the ink off the can so it is completely ink free and you are left with clean Aluminum (I did remember this time with the spelling). As you say it comes down to cost. I will make videos about both. If I don't try then none of will know. One thing I love about comments is everybody giving idea, tips, tricks and sharing knowledge. Not sure when I'll release the videos, hopefully when I do, I would appreciate your input. Best wishes, Matt.
@@criticallook5162 I looked into it. It is fascinating how they do it, but the actual equipment and process would far outstrip the money to be made on the pull tabs. What I enjoy about having a You Tube channel is everybody's comments. The suggestions, ideas, knowledge people have and share plus the tips and tricks. It fascinates me. If you have time to watch any further videos please feel free to comment. with some of the subscribers ideas I am going to try. If they work then that will be excellent for everybody, if they fail then you can all have a laugh at me at my expense. Thanks again. Matt.
Unfortunately not. I thought exactly the same. I found out last week that there are different types of Aluminium (Aluminum). Some have more tin and zinc in the mix, less zinc, less tin etc. That means the people who are making these ingots are making mixed Aluminium ingots and no expert can put a real value on them. What I am hoping to do after lockdown, is visit an Aluminium Mill. I can then ask all the questions that have been bothering myself and other subscribers and we will finally get a full in depth explanation. I'm also hoping to visit other metal mills to do the same with them. Quite a few of them, their smelting works are abroad so I will have to settle for a verbal explanation. It just seems to be a big blank in our understanding of where our scrap goes from the scrapyard, where it ends up, how it is sorted and remelted. Hopefully I'll be able to make a video about it and we will all be much the wiser. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Doom Racing I just made a video Why DIY Aluminum Ingots are Worthless. Fascinating to research. If you have time to check it out, it explains everything. Thanks, Matt.
I keep the shredded soda and beer cans in one bag, then the clean aluminium tops and bottoms in another bag or box. The silver tops and bottoms of the soda cans and beer cans would be considered clean aluminium where I live, then the shredded parts I will get a much lower price. Hope that answers your question. Many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Very much appreciated. Matt.
New subscriber from Tuscaloosa Alabama-USA. I own a heating and air company but I worked for Scrapyard while I was going to school and you’re right what you said to somebody Most scrap yards take different things and they classify them different.
Chad thank you for subscribing and welcome to the party, sort of anyway. The comments i've received from different parts of the world and the UK have been fascinating. Some scrap yards keep it simple then others have a vast array of categories you have to put your scrap into. I've now learnt from being on You Tube that the comments are so flipping interesting. People's knowledge, asking questions, sharing tips and tricks. I've been fascinated. Many thanks for your comment & subscribing, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Thank you. It was one of my early videos and yes i did talk alot. In all my videos I talk alot. UA-cam say to keep a video to 10 minutes. That's impossible for me as not only do I talk alot but I like to know the history of metals where and how things came about. I've got no engineering or mechanical experience and it fascinates me how these things are put together and work. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Doing one can every two minutes on average, It would take you approximately 93 days to do 67,000 cans, only if you worked non stop, 24 hours a day , with zero breaks to eat, sleep, or bathroom breaks! If you’d break it down to what you would earn, you’d pocket somewhere around a cool £ 0.19 an hour for 2,233 hours.
We are lucky in Australia we have collection areas at supermarket outlets. We return our bottles and cans through a chute... it automatically totals how many we put through. It prints out a voucher with the money total received. We get 10 cents for EACH can or bottle. The voucher is cashed in at the supermarket. We can choose to take the money or have it deducted from our groceries.
Janet they tried that in the UK many years ago, they didn't pay as much as 10 cents. Unfortunately they either didn't build the machine properly where they did a trial run, but as usual a minority spoilt it for the majority. Somehow they found a way of cutting the cans and got more from one can than they should have. Needless to say the trial ended. It was such a shame as alot of people used it and they soon built up a fair amount that they put towards their Christmas shopping. The money was put on their supermarket loyalty card so they could cash it in anytime. A good idea but as I said the minority spoilt it for the majority. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
The scrapyard i use in my part of the UK pays the same per kilo for ali cans as it does for cast or extruded. In other words, they pay the same top price regardless. It is always worth calling a few yards to check.
I'm lucky with my yard they pay different prices for different aluminium. Clean, extruded etc. I know some people just get one flat rate. Also I only have one scrapyard in my area and they are fair and give good prices so I am lucky. As you say, in other areas it is best to shop around for the best prices. Thanks for your comment.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 no your not lucky, the price is normally the same . you dont need to go cutting them up. the price is already the same as other aliminum. . 60 p per kilo ... at 5p you just got ripped to bits..
Can you cut off bottom and top and ring tab and melt into aluminum bars and instead of shredding the painted remains of can..put that piece with barcode in can return machine and still get full refund of 10cents per can plus all tops bottoms and pull tabs you melt down or just scrap as is?
derby ct. It's interesting you should say that. I''ve been on the phone and emailing aluminium (Aluminum) mills today, with no success. I gained a little information that not all aluminium is the same grade. So if I was to make ingots, not only do i not know how much gas it will cost but how much I will get for an ingot if i mix the aluminium. I made phone calls was put through to somebody else, you know the feeling, then they said email this person they will get back to you. They didn't so I'll send 2 emails tomorrow, 3 the next, 4 the next. You get the idea, until I get the answer we are all looking for. When I find out I'll make a video. With the bar code machines they did a trial in certain parts of our country. As always people abused it, found out how to get more money for one can and it was stopped. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 that would be great video on cost of propane or charcoal and hairdryer (electricity ) prices vs ingots price etc. Loved your video
when we built our forge we took the few bags of cans we had and melted them down into ingots, we had about 56 cans to a 14 ounce ingot of clean aluminum after scraping all the slag away. but we also have a mill and other tools so it's cheaper still since we can use those ingots to machine parts out of!
I released a video a couple of days ago why Aluminium/Aluminum Ingots are worthless. If you have time maybe check it out. I was surprised by some of the things that came out of my research. Thanks. Matt.
To be honest Christopher I have no idea. I think I tried once for an hour and it worked out the same for stripping copper wire (2 & 3 gauge) or it was worth a little more than stripping copper, but prices have changed since then. Do I sit there cutting cans no. I made the video as I traded in cans a few years previously and i received about £1.50 a kg. This time it was 5p. The point of the video it just to see the maximum you could make per kg. Many thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate both. Thanks, Matt.
Many states in the US you get a redemption value that is paid at the register as a tax. If they are beverage cans you get that value at the recycler. I just went and CRV was 1.65 a pound .
Mark, it's been fascinating the comments i've had from different countries. The US and Canada are both subsidised for the cans. Shame we aren't in the UK. I'm sure you can understand why I made the video after receiving a pitiful 5p a kg. Years ago it was £1.50 kg, that's about $1.95. At least it gives people in non subsidised countries a more informed choice. Many thanks for your comment, fascinating and much appreciated. Matt.
@@geoffreylohff3876 Geoffrey, if they haven't got a deposit, you've got me intrigued now. what colour are the ring pulls!!! That's where the easy money is. Thanks for commenting. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Looking at one right now. The pulls are the "round" tabs in silver, but the top side is painted black with a little monster M on it. If you're selling them to the craft people, the black could be useful.
Thats for the reply Matt, and your willingness for more info later. I hit reply to your note, but got directed back here, so if there are other readers, this follow up note might not make entire sense. In your note, I think you meant to state that the value of a pound was $1.40, but it showed the British pound symbal that I do not have on my KB. As for shreds, if you cut the 'middle' section once, after separating it from the top and bottom, then straighten it out, they would 'stack' up. You might find a container the right shape and size, or build one, and then keep a weight on them. I look forward to your additional info. Again, thanks jim Also, do they really spell aluminium that way in GB ? I have always noticed how Brits pronounce it different from us.
Thanks for the price break down. Always wondered what the price would be across the pond. In the USA some states strongly request that you recycle certain used up material, ie; metal cans, cardboard, plastic, etc. In Iowa, we pay .05 cents per container of pop, beer, etc. We can buy boxes and bags at our redemption centers, for sorting the empty metal cans/ plastic bottles. Bags are marked for 240 cans, earns you $12 dollars for the bag. About 90 1/2 litre bottles will fit in the bag, and about 45 full size litre bottles will fit. i read that the tops are worth more money, cause they are all dense metal. i have thought about melting down the metal cans that i don't get enough money for, then sell it to a local business who uses the metal for their end product. Have you thought about melting down the metal cans ?
Ron I've had many subscribers from the U.S. saying about deposits on cans, but not in so much depth and detail. Thank you, that has brought real clarity. With melting down the cans or any metal into ingots, I would say, wait until I film a video that I am trying to get permission for at the moment. I recently found out there are many different types of Aluminium (Aluminum). when people melt them into ingots they are mixing these different types of Aluminium. This makes them worth not alot of money. I am hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill soon, (if they allow me in) and I would like to fill in the big blank from what happens to our scrap when it is dropped off at the yard, where does it go, how is it separated, and remelted into the final product. Some Aluminium could have more tin content or zinc or both. If they allow me in to video and interview, that will answer my questions and many peoples questions as well. I would like to visit other metal mills as well to understand the process there. Fingers crossed they'll allow me to interview them. Many thanks for your highly informative comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Charles the top and bottoms are considered clean ally, so you get a different price, because of the ink on the coloured middle that is treated as shred ally price. It's the same throughout the UK. One subscriber said to soak them in Acetone then wire wool the remainder ink off, but i don't know the chemical properties as yet. Citric acid, the powder form is brilliant for the same use. I used to clean my collection of vintage tools up with it. Amazing for rust. Once all the ink is off i would get clean aluminum prices then. Alot of work though. All scrap yards give different prices for all sorts of metal. Something that is shred in one yard is considered something else in another yard. It can get confusing, I have one yard near me and they are fair and good with payment, so I can't complain. Many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. I hope I have answered your queston as best I could. Stay safe. Matt.
T'was very interesting. Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm curious if the pulltabs are more valuable if I were to anodize them (ie: coloured by me, at home, rather than the manufacturer). Hmmm...
Exemplary analysis my friend. just a thought if I may, where I live on the west coast of The United States, small companies that used to buy aluminum have gone out of business. This however does not affect the larger regional recycling companies. Aluminum still has value. Because local communities offer no way to sell ones aluminum cans, it occurs an entrepreneur could buy quantity of cans from locals, perhaps even paying a small bit more, 6 or 7 pence for example, and process the cans with a small crew and actually realize an economic profit. fun to think about anyways. I look forward to more of your videos. Thank you.
Can you not crush them and stockpile them in builder sacks until you have a good weight then using a cheap crude furnace setup melt them into muffin tins then weigh them in or stock pile them until the price goes up or sell the billets on ebay for casting as I have seen others do on youtube. I am no expert on tins 😀
Mr e Shed, welcome. I've looked at Devil Forge's but no fellow You Tubers can give me a definitive answer on how much gas they use. I might do as you say, Somewhere build a basic forge, perhaps use a hairdryer to blow the oxygen in and see if I can get the required heat to melt the aluminium. Certainly better than cutting and collecting. Time will tell. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
MR e Shed, I recently released a video Why DIY Aluminum Ingots are Worthless. If you have got time to check it out, it explains everything in the video. Many thanks. Matt.
what is the amount in american money? Ican figure out the pound is = to 2.00 in u.s.a. but the quid and other calculations are a bit fuzzy so if some thing $420 is it 840 dollars?
Slight problem - if you have a tonne of cans and get a certain price that's one thing but if you start cutting the cans into variably priced parts then you can't price the shred and tops and ringpulls into seperate tonnes as you only had the one tonne to start with , so in creating 1 tonne of shred and 1 tonne of top/bottoms and 1 tonne of ringpulls how many cans in total do you need ? ------loaves and fishes bauy and I cannot be arsed to work it out ...............................but I did learn something so cheers for that.
I would say nothing. The reason being they contain toxins. If you watch my video about Plastics. I think it is called Plastics the shocking and horrifying truth, I explain in the video about all the types of plastics and you'll be shocked at what each category of plastics contain, somewhere in the video it will explain about takeaway containers, whether it be cups or takeaway containers, the sort used for Chinese food or kebabs. I hope the video helps. It is a long video but there's so much to explain about each plastic. The only one worth recycling are the HDPE for type, which you can warm up in the oven and make art out of, circular clocks, phone holder/chargers anything you can think of. Hope that helps. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@raibeart1955 I hadn't thought about the containers being aluminium, shows how long it is since I've had a take away. That's one thing I can't answer sorry. Once washed out and crushed I assume it would be classed as clean aluminium or tin foil aluminium. I'll check at my local yard what they would be classed as. Next time you have one of the containers I'd be interested to know the weight. The cups and bowls made from polystyrene come under plastics. Pretty frightening what the heat of the food releases from the polystyrene, the toxins mix with your food and you eat those toxins. If you have got a bit of time on your hands and are able to watch the video, what is relevant to you, you'll be shocked at what we are eating and drinking from. If you are able to weigh an aluminium takeaway container, I'd be interested to hear what the weight is. As I said, in the mean time I'll check with my local yard what aluminium they would class it as. Many thanks for the comment, much appreciated. You've got me thinking know. I have to know...lol. Hopefully speak soon. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Hi Matt, The container I just weighed comes in at 0.2 grams which is possibly about average. This just reminded me of when I was a child in Scotland, There was a mining disaster in Wales and the whole country saved and washed the milk bottle tops which were aluminium back in the 1960’s to help along with their spare change etc. We even learned to knit squares to make blankets out of spare wool . I suppose it was a way for us kids to show empathy and care for others. All the best.
Catching up mate. Interesting. I do a crafty I flatten them and suff them inside ally tubes and flatten them again. Never thought of taking the tabs off or picking them up. And never apologise for OCD its a mental illness. I'm terrible with it.
My mind is one of those that if I don't get the full answer i have to research and go all out until i get the answer i am looking for. Annoying to some people, my research is interesting to others. Stay safe. Speak soon.
Very interesting . Am curious where do you find the values of bottles online. I have a few in my woods would like to know where to get money from them? Is it only ebay? Thanks. Not too over talkative because I like listening to someone who knows and is interested in what they are doing . Blessings.
Hi Kimberly, apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I had all the information you needed on screen, then my computer crashed and I forgot about you, sorry. To determine the price of your bottles, there are 4 main types of bottle. Open pontil, Iron Pontil, Smooth Based Bottles and Machine Made Bottles. The oldest bottles are used with the pontil method where the glass maker would blow through the tube and cut it off at the bottom of the bottle. That's the easiest way I can explain it. However, just because it's old doesn't mean it's worth a fortune. different colours are worth more than others, different times in history, different categories, even if a celebrity has started collecting a certain style of bottle. Has it got it's original label? There's alot to understand and learn. If you have time to reply, the best I could do for you is if you could tell me what country you live in, and then I could then recommend a book or two, plus different countries have different avenues of selling, without having to go through Ebay, or even worse an auction house. If you don't like the idea of leaving your country of residence in the comments just email me at the following address: don39t_give_up202063@aol.com Hope to speak soon. Stay safe. Matt.
Hi matt as I have never been to recycling plant in the uk before but I am thinking of going Into business for this Will recycling plants accept cut ✂️ cans please
Hi Waqas, yes they will accept the cuttings as, even though they are cut into smaller pieces, they are still classed as aluminium cans. You could chop them in half or crush them after taking the top and bottom off. It all depends on how much space and time you have. Some people dismiss particular types of metal, as they don't think it is worth their while. Personally I think any piece of metal is worth collecting as it has some value. If you are unsure of any metals or what to look out for if you start going into business, feel free to email me. My email address is usually in the description notes under every video. Almost forgot, don't forget to get the relevant licences you need to work as a legal scrappie. I'm not sure where you get one. Try your local council offices, I'm sure they will deal with things such as that. Best of luck if you go into business. Many thanks for watching and commenting, both are really appreciated. Matt.
Hi, I hope your feeling better. I turn 44 this april and have have had 2 minor and 2 moderate strokes since 2009. I'm thinking about getting into scrapping maybe once I get the covid shot. I've had quite a number of P.E's and DVT's (blood clots in my lungs and legs) I get winded easy so this might be something I can do at my own pace for some income. Do you think maybe a HD paper shredder could handle the scraps. If you could make some automation and work smarter not harder. I will have to see what scrap prices are, here in the states... Do people that smelt pure aluminum ingots at home get more money per ton?
RedRam302 I had a subscriber who had a 150 piece paper shredder and he said it worked a treat on the shred.. I'm releasing a video saying exactly what I've got in a few hours time. I know the feeling of getting winded. Heavy things kill me. Washing machines and things like that. People smelt aluminum ingots, copper and brass. It's a bit of an investment to start with but you get purer metal at the end of the process worth more money. The only thing I haven't got an answer for is how much propane gas it takes to melt each bar and how much profit you' be making. I think it is definitely something you can do to raise some income, just don't over do it, otherwise you'll get exhausted. You might be better off emailing me don39t_give_up202063@aol.com so I can give you a more in depth answer before you start scrapping. First port of call is definitely the scrap yard, they should give you a print out of all their prices. If you don't understand what they are going on about with some of the prices just ask and they will tell you. If you have a couple of scrapyards in your area go round them all and get their prices, see who pays the most. Some scrapping can be done while you're watching TV. Definitely email me and I'll give you a far more in depth explanation plus other ways of making money. Look forward to hearing from you. Just remember any form of metal is worth money. No matter how little or big, what type of metal. I always take a bag out with me and some side snips and I might only come back with a little after a walk but it's worth something. On your walk you might see bigger items that you could drive back for after. Just email me and we'll take it from there. Many thanks. Matt.
Hi RedRam302, firstly I was wondering how you are getting along, if you have decided to get into scrapping as a side hustle? Hope you've had your first jab, I had a letter yesterday giving me my date for April. If you are getting into it, I'd be interested to see how you get on. I found out recently that melting aluminium (Aluminum) ingots isn't a good idea. You are mixing different types of Aluminium which makes them worth not alot of money. I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium (Aluminum) Mill soon, if they allow me in to interview them. I think there is a big blank between when we drop of our metal, where it goes, how it is separated and how it is remelted into the final product. If they do grant me an interview then that will answer not only alot of my questions but viewers questions as well, especially ingots. When and if you have time to reply, it would be interesting to hear what decision you made. Stay safe. Matt.
Thank you Andreas. Watch out in the coming months when hopefully i will be visiting different Metal Mills for them to explain the full process of what happens to our scrap when we drop it off at the scrapyard, where it goes, how it is sorted and how they resmelt it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated, Stay safe. Matt.
I live in New York and for me cans are worth .06 cents each which means you get $6.00 USD per 100 cans. You pay a deposit when you buy any soda in a can or bottle. within the state of New York, and they return it back to you when you recycle it. I live less than 5 minutes from another state that doesn't charge that deposit and we do all our shopping in that state and then return the cans or bottles to New York.
$6.00 per 100 cans compared to 5p for 67 cans here in the UK!!! That's brilliant that you can go over to the other state and redeem the money in your state, keep going. With the comments from USA it's surprising how each state differs with the amount they pay. Wish they paid that much over here. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Unfortunately, these "bottle laws" only exist in a handful of states. In most of the US, you will only get scrap price which is around 30 cents per pound or 65-70 per kilo. Still better than 5, I guess.
@@KosstAmojan Hi Koost Amojan. For me living in the UK America is such a vast country, it's been so interesting the comments people have left. Different parts of the US have different ways of paying, or not, Canada has the deposit scheme, parts of Australia have a subsidy in place. Here in the UK we have nothing...sigh, apart from a pitiful 5p a kg. Many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
IDK , what part of over 50 yrs you seen . Deposit was enacted in 1983 . 5 cents . Hasn't changed . Current stores and redemtion centers get 3.5 cents for handling and still is - this state (suxwithcoumo) . So dont mislead the guy .
In sweden we get 1.00 SEK per can. So 67 cans is 5,45 pounds today in sweden. Big diffrent. So fore one ton we get 54 468,90 pounds today in sweden. Thanks!
Alex, you've made me very jealous with your comment. Prices over here are still pitiful for alot of metals. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Both are much appreciated. Take care. Matt.
Cindy thank you for your comment. when you melt them you get as pure aluminium as you can, even though it's an alloy. People estimate you lose about 40% of the cans as dross (rubbish metals). You have to keep using a stainless steel spoon to scoop the dross off the top, put to one side to be disposed of later. On the secondary market 1kg of aluminium is roughly £10 British Sterling top price. What has stopped me from buying a devil forge to melt copper, brass or aluminium is, no fellow You Tuber knows how much gas they use to create 1kg of aluminium. So you might use £20 in gas to create a £10 ingot. I'll need to research it some more. Other subscribers have given ideas how to get the ink off so the cans are totally clean aluminium. I'll make a video, or videos once I have compiled all their suggestions. I hope that answers your question. If you have any further questions don't be afraid to reach out either with a comment or email. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing to my channel I really do appreciate it. Stay safe. Matt.
In plain (and 100% certain) English, that would be an enormous waste of time, effort, and money. Don't do it; unless you just like looking at ingots. Scrap yards have no way of knowing if your ingots are pure. They know what they're getting when the see a can, or a piece of window frame, or a rim. Your ingot is a mystery, and most scrap yards will give you their lowest aluminum price for it.
@@johnafagerquist8235 John thanks for your comment. Absolutely fascinating. With melting any metals, I must admit I have been tempted to buy a Devil's Forge, but it all seems a bit dangerous and also are you gaining anything by melting these ingots? Aluminum is an alloy and one of the worst paying. A pitiful 5p a kg for all those cans!!! Many thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. I love how people are sharing their knowledge and tips and tricks. If you do happen to watch any further videos and notice anything I've missed or need to be corrected on please feel free. I really appreciate you taking your time to comment and subscribe. Stay safe. Matt.
@@johnafagerquist8235 John, after reading your comment you are absolutely spot on!!! I've done some research and you are so right they cannot put a price on the ingot if it is a mix of different Aluminium (Aluminum). After lockdown I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill. We will then know where our scrap goes from the yard, the different types of Aluminium. Being an alloy they obviously put more Zinc and Tin in for one mix and a different mix for another. It just feels like there's a huge blank between our understanding of what happens in the process between dropping off our scrap at the yard, where it goes and how they remelt. If I could visit other metal mills that would be fascinating for all of us as well. If you have got any spare time to reply I really would appreciate your input and ideas. Many thanks. Stay safe. Matt.
@@johnafagerquist8235 John your comment kicked off my curious mind. I just released a video Why DIY Aluminium Ingots are Worthless. Fascinating subject to research. If you have got time to check it out, I hope my research is correct. Best wishes. Matt.
Mitchell thanks for the comment. I found out last week that there are many different types of Aluminium. People who melt aluminium (Aluminum) ingots are mixing different types of aluminium, this makes them worth not alot of money, because they've mixed the aluminium the analysts cannot put a price on them. I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill in the next few weeks, so we can see what happens to our aluminium once we drop it off at the scrap yard, where it goes, how it is separated, then smelted into different types. Some have more tin, or zinc, some have more tin and zinc. It just seems a big blank in our understanding of the whole process. If i'm able to I'm hoping to visit other types of metal mills, so it not only answers my questions but alot of peoples questions. Once again, many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
No I didn't as I treated those as separate as that is the easiest and most money you can make from a can. From what I remember is it mostly magnesium? Please correct me if I am wrong. I have had an idea how to change the colours of the ring pulls. It'll take me a little time to construct what I have in mind. If it works then everybody benefits, if it doesn't then you can all have a laugh at my expense. Really interesting point you raise about the ring pulls being another metal. In the past couple of weeks I realised how many different types of Aluminium (aluminum) there are. When people melt aluminium ingots they are using different types of aluminium in the ingots which makes them worth not alot of money. I'm trying my best to gain access to an Aluminium Mill for an interview with one of the directors to answer alot of viewers questions.. I haven't fully researched aluminium as yet. I believe it was touched on by somebody in 1825 then another gentleman in 1827 when it was added to the periodic table. It's interesting that what some people call Nordic Gold is used to make 5, 10 & 50 cent euros. Then there are cans, ladders, extruded aluminium etc. It would be interesting to find out what mix of metals they use for each one. Trying to get an interview with this particular company is HARD & tedious but i'll persist. Fingers crossed they allow me access. I think it would prove a fascinating insight into Aluminium. Many thanks for your comment, very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Copied this from newspaper in 2008: (Aug2008) Here's a thought: If you had purchased £1,000 of Northern Rock shares one year ago , they would now be worth £4.95. With HBOS, earlier this week your £1,000 would have been worth £16.50. £1,000 invested in XL Leisure would now be worth less than £5.00, but if you bought £1,000 worth of Tennent's Lager one year ago, drank it all, then took the empty cans to an aluminium recycling plant, you would get £214.00!!!🤣
Stephen, I've been looking for your comment for ages. If you're considering getting into the recycling business, maybe start off small as a hobby scrapper. If you do it full time, dependant upon which country you are in, you will need a permit, plus if it is ewaste I think you need a permit for that as well. Copper and brass are the 2 main metals everybody are after, but even a tonne of steel will get you £5-600 per day. Find a local scrapyard or if you are lucky enough to have more than one near you, just call into their office and ask for their price list of their metals. Each day the prices change but it will give you a good idea of what everything is worth. If you decide to give it a go, I wish you all the very best. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Hi Stephen, it's nice seeing your comment on Matt video, I am also going into recycling in Nigeria, I have been into it for over 10years, working for a firm , wish you all the best , and will want to know your progress report.
I think I will now be drinking Stella, as I got LOADS of Tops, bottoms, Ringpull's, not forgetting Shard's & crushed cans of Kronenberg beer can's all bagged up. I at least realised the differences between Top's n Bottom's etc. many thank's for the heads up, Matt. P/S. I was recommended to use a CERAMIC Cruicable Instead of the normal one. No doubt I will see. Thanks again. You're quite an Inspiration!👍
If you are only collecting cans then personally I wouldn't get a licence. If you were loading washing machines, any white goods or other metals into a van or pick up and the Police saw you, they would ask you to provide the paperwork for your licences. They changed the laws a few years ago and enforced these licences and no cash payment when you take your scrap into the scrap yard. The cash is obvious for tax evasion, I can't remember the reason for the licences. I don't know anything about what licence, or licences you need. Maybe phone your local Council and just enquire about licences, or licence, you would need. I wouldn't mention the cans, just say you are thinking of going into business collecting scrap metal and what licences you need and how much it would cost you. Don't give any of your details, just say you are just making a general enquiry for prices, what licences you need to see if it is worth your while going into business. I take cutters everywhere I go and cut off the cables of any items people leave out. The copper and brass soon mounts up. I hope that helps. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 thank you that has helped as I wasn't sure my focus is just cans I won't be collecting any other metal as I have had a big interest in those just hope I can get started ASAP
As long as you're happy that's all that matters. The pulls rings are the easiest money. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Dear Matt - obviously you let yr mind run along wherever it likes to go. Kudos, that is a rare talent and so rare as to be priceless. Thank you very much for being willing to share that attitude. Great things can come out of garages. Way I see it you just gave base knowledge to a lot of people who maybe could use it well.Thank you for that also. Opened My eyes. Never look at a pull-tab the same again :) By the way, your humble and very clear presentation is a pleasure to hear. Enjoyed the clip. Will look for others on account of I like yr approach to life,er, philosophy
Dear Alan, I do let my mind run wherever it wants to go. I'm the sort of person that if I haven't got the full answer I have to research and ask questions until I get the full answer. Unlike other scrappers who just quickly take things apart, I like to take things apart but try and work out how they work. I'm not that bothered about the financial gain, it's more the knowledge. Also breaking things down as I did in this video. To some people it may be boring, exhaustive treatment of what i am talking about, but as you said, I made the video just to show people how to maximise their profit, if they have the patience. In life, i'm very laid back. I learnt many, many years ago to adopt my way of thinking. it gives a person a happier life not getting stressed or worked up about anything. If problems arise I look at it as a puzzle and think there's always an answer, which there is. As regards being humble, at the end of the day, we all have 2 legs, 2 arms, eat and drink the same, go to toilet the same, so just accept things for what they are. Makes life far easier. Saying that I did get a little wound up in one of my latest videos, Copper, Do we Buy, Hold or Sell. Goodness I feel as if I've written an essay or book to you. Alan many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Strewth, over the years I have collected and crushed a few tons of cans. Never looked at it this way. Usually pick up a kilo over a 2.5 mile walk when going to catch the bus Heee heeee. Darn litter bugs tossing cans out the window Haaa haaaa they are all going into my bank account. Thanks for the info. What do I do with all the crushed ones I got right now? Maybe check the ring pulls and if ok separate them out, see if I can separate out the tops and bottoms. I'll let you know how it goes 😀 Quick addendum: Started taking the gold coloured rings off stella cans and noticed that Hatherwood Original bitter has exactly the same ring pulls. Its a Lidl brand-named beer.
Junkn Jerry here thank u I've learned aheck of a lot about those kind of cans. CAn u tell me how much a pound is worth in US money so I can see what I might make here. Bro J
Jerry good to hear from you. It'll take about 32/33 cans to make a lb in weight. That's with the pull rings taken off. I put the rings on the scales but they didn't register they were so light, but they are the easy part of making money from cans selling on Ebay for art and crafts. I'm going to be doing an experiment soon to see if I can get the ink and food grade lining off the middle section. The tops and bottoms should be classed as clean ally, if my experiment works then the middle section should be classed as rolled ally. I'll then go down the yard and check to see what they class both as and prices. I'll try and get the video done this week or next. I'm having my jab Monday, so I might have a reaction or not. It makes life exciting not knowing...lol. Hope that helps and hopefully, as I said, I'll get that video done. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Jerry i forgot to mention the weights. If we work off 32 cans, top and bottom equal 160g (5g a can) and the middle section 320g (10g a can). Thanks. Matt.
Judah thank you. After I received just 5p a kg (2.2lbs) I just had to find out exactly the maximum I could get. I may talk too much or repeat myself but I find with other channels they talk too quickly and you can't take in all the information. I'm doing an experiment today to see if I can get even more money from a can by getting the ink off. The top and bottom are different Aluminium (Aluminum) to the body of the can. I'll then take it down my scrapyard and see what prices they would give me for both types of Aluminium. I don't know whether you've watched the video. I think it's called Why DIY Aluminium Ingots are worthless. I did alot of research into aluminium and was surprised how complicated it all is. Hopefully you'll find it informative. Many thanks for your comment and taking the time to watch the video, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Christopher I have been searching high and low for your comment. I have so many notifications and comments each day, it's so easy to lose comments and not be able to reply. My apologies. You have me intrigued about the treatment for children with cancer. I've kept all my ring pulls. If you have the time to let me know more, either a hospital or charity that I can send them to that would be amazing. I have ALOT of ring pulls and if they can pay for ne treatment for a child that to me is priceless. Hope you have the time to let me know more. Stay safe. Matt.
I sighed with you Matt when you said "5 pence per kilo". But that is some clever working out with the top and bottom of the cans. I never thought of that.
Cycle Scrapping thanks for your comment, Ian pointed out my mistake with my maths, but as you will see in the next video I've made sure that has been corrected
Just make art from cans and sell them for more than scrap. A wind catcher made from a few cans can be sold for $10-15us here in the states. Use cheap electric bench bandsaw to cut cans up if going that route. Saves huge amount of manual processing time.
I've seen windcatchers, lanterns for tea lights, all sorts made out of them. My only worry is the aluminum is so sharp it would cut somebody using it and then all sorts of problems arise. There is a bit of a compensation culture in the UK, unfortunately. The bandsaw is a brilliant idea. I've got to get my garden cleared before my nephews arrive next week, so I'm in 2 minds whether to keep the cans or trade them in as is. It's my youngest nephew that is the overly curious, or should I say naughty one. If you say no he still goes ahead and does it. It'll be good to see them. I haven't seen them for 2 years because of Covid. I'll definitely try that out. Many thanks not only for the idea, but watching and taking the time to comment. All are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
An empty coke can is 20gram meaning 50 cans per kg. In Sweden we get 0.64USD per kg casted to a bar and 0.092USD for each returned empty can. This means a loss of 3.96USD per kg when melting the cans to bars instead of just returning the cans.
Any that are sharp and good quality. That may sound silly but sometimes you come across scissors and they aren't put together tightly and you can't even cut paper as it slides between the blades. I'm hoping to do an experiment soon how to get the ink off the can, so you have three parts, the pull tab, the top and bottom and the main body which should be classed as some form of rolled aluminium. Also I'm going to try another experiment to see if I can make the pull tabs worth more money. Many thanks for your comment and watching, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Welcome Damon no.100!!! Woo hoo!!! Some channels have giveaways for reaching certain number of subscribers, unfortunately, I don't, as I'm skint. That's why I cut aluminium cans...lol. Thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated.
Kelly apologies for the delay in replying. One subscriber had a 150 sheet shredder and he said it shredded the whole can. It's certainly an idea. Thank you for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Seems to me that for the price, it would be wise to make a die that can cut the center part of the can into pull shapes then a jig to bend them into shape to become a ring pull, that would pay 20 fold per can, so instead of making $1330 it would be $20,000 in profit.
Robert, it's been fascinating how different countries pay for cans. USA, Canada, Australia all seem to either have a deposit, or subsidy in place. Shame we didn't have it here in the UK. 5p a kg. I almost cried it was such a pitiful amount. Many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@girlinjax Other subscribers from the U.S. have left various comments. Some states pay so many cents, some states pay more than others, then as you say some states pay nothing. From my point of view sitting here in the UK it's strange how each state is different. Surely it would be better to have some continuity all over the U.S. so there is some financial return on cans in all states. Many thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. It's surprising which countries pay money for cans, whether it be a deposit or government subsidy, but even in countries that pay a subsidy, such as Australia, that is only in certain parts of the country. Many thanks again for your comment. Stay safe. Matt.
@girlinjax Ha..ha..I am down to earth, just a normal person, who talks far too much..lol. It's just some things I find interesting to research about. There's so much you can recycle and repurpose. Maybe one day just stand somewhere, perhaps your local park, your garage or somebody else's garage and look around you. First of all you'll just see what your brain wants you to see. Then when you let your imagination run wild, there will be pieces of wood that you could cut and repurpose for something. Plastic containers you were going to throw out but you'll have an idea for them. Things that you could turn into pieces of art. Thankfully we aren't all the same, so people get different ideas from seeing things and how to reuse things. Try it one day and see what comes into your mind, or if you need to buy something for the house see if there is something you could reuse or make into what you were going to buy. I'd be interested to know if anything happens like to you. Many thanks for you comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Hi Bob. I've had many comments from the U.S. It's a little confusing at times for me as some states pay a deposit, some don't. Some states pay more than others. The top and bottom aluminum are a different kind of aluminum to the body, I believe the body is some kind of rolled aluminum, the top and bottom would be classed as clean aluminum over here. Maybe phone a couple of yards near you and explain what you are doing and see what prices they will give you, if they accept the aluminum in that way? I'd be interested to hear what prices they give you. At the end of the day, metal is metal and it all is worth something. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. If you do happen to follow up with prices, as I said I'd be very interested to hear. Stay safe. Matt.
I listened to the whole video with interest. But I do not get the accounts because nowadays here in Germany 1 can is bought in supermarkets .25 cents. How is the profit calculated in this case?
Robert if I understand your question properly. In the UK every household has to put their recycling out in different bags each week. So all I have to do is just walk, or drive around the streets, the night before the bin men pick up the rubbish and collect as many cans as I want. So they literally are costing me nothing. After getting just 5p per Kg, i had to try and work out the maximum profit i could get from a kg. The tops and bottoms are considered clean aluminium but because of the ink on the cans, that is worthless. The easy money are the ring pulls. People buy them to use in crotchet, knitting, jewellery, earrings. So for collecting free cans, everything is more or less profit. One subscriber said to soak them in Acetone but I don't know much about the chemical, or the price. I used powder citric acid on cleaning old vintage rusted tools and wondered if that would work getting the ink off. Another subscriber suggested using a form of electricity to colour the pull rings. I wondered whether to spray them with paint primer, then a colour, but again it comes down to price of the paints. In USA, Canada and Australia they either pay a deposit or are subsidised, so they make alot of money on the cans. It's been fascinating hearing comments from different parts of the world, different prices they get. From a video that i just wanted to see how much money i could make on a kg of cans, it has turned into a fascinating subject. I hope that answers your question. If it doesn't please feel free to contact me again. Many thanks for your comment and taking the time to subscribe both are much appreciated. Take care. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Thank you for the quick and detailed response you sent me. Now I must do a trick to get others to send me these cans themselves. For example, because I am an artist by a profession that uses different techniques and materials, I am thinking of approaching a work of art with one of these cans, like a stained and a painted personalized photo, which I believe I would do them interested. Or, this will be like a present for all family as well. Someone on youtube" Ink removal from a soda can ua-cam.com/video/HHWNqxCYMtA/v-deo.html", removes their paints of soda cans with nail polish remover. By using this method, I can recycle it again as a painting artwork. Maybe this trick will be the best and of interest for both of us.
@@007HANDMAN Somebody suggested using Acetone, I used to use powdered Citric Acid, food grade (Lemon Juice) (Amazon or Ebay) to get the rust off vintage tools I used to collect. As I said in my previous reply the recycling bags here in my area are easy to take the cans out of. If I just wanted to do that day in day out, I could easily get 5 figures worth of cans each week. Out of interest, how many cans are you looking for to create some form of art?
@@madmattsbucketlist385 I was just thinking as if your idea would be of economic interest. But I find out that there are some problems which I must count since at the beginning: -As I said, here in Germany people take the cans to the supermarkets at 0.25 cents per piece, and they do not leave them out as you said. And I thought that doing a work of art would make them interested in exchanging 50 cans with one, making them interested in bringing it to me and not taking them to the supermarket. But before I do this I have to calculate exactly the costs of all the work and how much is this artwork should be exchanged with 330ml or 500ml cans? So, in this case, I will use only the flat part = the perimeter of the can. And the end and the head will be melted. But, maybe if I make a small foundry I believe it is illegal, or harmful to the environment, etc., and I will have more problems which were not counted at the beginning!? So far I do not find out how much is the price per kg as ingots in the market? I do not know how much it costs to melt a 1 kg can with electricity or gas? For these reasons I do not know if it is of interest to enter this business? Or I continue with the work, I have so far?
@@007HANDMAN I watched the video you sent a link for, i'll do a video using citric acid to take the paint off. When making ingots from the cans, the videos I have watched stay away from the electric forges they take far too long to heat up. A Devil's Forge is far better. I'm in the same position as you I've reached out to fellow You Tubers to see how much propane gas they use and none of them keep a note telling themselves how much they used or how much it cost. The other good thing with a Devils Forge, if you used different crucibles for each metal, Copper, brass metals are also an option. Probably a higher return as well, not just for ingots but any art you may create. I believe Everyday Sollers is an artist using copper and metals and I believe she uses a Devil's Forge. She's a lovely lady based here in the UK. Check out her site, just say I recommended you and I am sure she will be more than happy to help you. I'd be interested to hear what happens. If you have a website or channel just let me know. Hopefully speak soon. Matt.
Thank you for the info on I have been just selling them and plastic bottles never realize you could cut them up and make more money that's like triple the amount.
It's definitely a long term project. I just keep the off cuts in compost bags and forget about them. Good thing as well aluminium doesn't rust. Gradually they'll build up to a hefty amount. It's just patience and thinking every part you put in a bag you are making a deposit in your bank. The other thing I'm looking into are the ring pulls. There are thousands of the silver ones but not many of the coloured. I am currently working on something that i am hoping will solve that problem. Many thanks for your comment.
I save the can's until the price is up then sale the same thing with plastic bottles however I crushed them the last time I had five 55gallon bags full I wish that the economy would pick up.
@@bobsunkees3392 Bob we all feel the same. If you type in Mining.com they give alot of up to date information about the whole state of the metal market. Aluminium is one of the metals that they believe is set to go up in value. Their copper predictions for 22/23 and the next 15 years is incredible, mostly because of electric cars. Check it out and see if you can find the site. Thanks again for your comment. Matt.
@@bobsunkees3392 By cutting up what is the same material you only succeed in rendering the aluminium impossible for the scrapyards to efficiently bale for efficient transport. The bases and tops are only " worth more " than the bodies because they are more condensed, but the scrapyards pay the same weight rate for exactly the same material be it thinner or slightly more condensed.
@@jonglewongle3438 I found out last week about the different types of aluminium. I've done some research after reading your comment, and others. I'm hoping after lockdown to visit an Aluminium Mill, so we understand where our scrap goes from the scrapyard, where it ends up and how it is recycled into a useable form. It would be interesting to visit other metal mills as well. I just think it's a huge blank that is missing in our understanding of the process. If you have got any spare time to reply I'd be very interested to hear your point of view on the subject. Many thanks. Stay safe. Matt.
After receiving just 5p a kg I had to see if I could make more money. My OCD kicked in, but I was shocked myself. It's more of a long term investment if you were to cut & collect. However with the ring pulls and the different colours that's just easy money for nothing. I'd be interested to see if it turns out to make the same, more or less money in your area. Thanks for your comment.
All I glean from this is that you are getting rinsed at you yard... Aluminum pop cans (UBC) averages $0.50 USD per pound. That's $1.10 USD per kilo AVERAGE. Seen up to $2.20 a kilo listed in price lists. Sorry
At 12:34 in the video you show top and bottom at 0.11 and the ring pulls almost 5 times as much a 0.52 but they when you go to 14:08 you show the top and bottoms at 200.00 and the ring pulls at 195.64 which is less than the the top and bottoms. Why the discrepancy?
Hi Matt, I used to make aluminum beer and beverage cans for a living. I haven't read all of the comments so maybe someone has already mentioned this. The body of the can (inside and outside) has a coating from the mill, The top of the can (inside and outside) has a coating from the mill and also has a rubberized compound sprayed onto the surface where it is sealed onto the body, The coating thickness varies, Soda pop cans have a thicker coating than beer cans. The coating can be coloured to suit the customers requirements, which is why some cans have coloured tops. The clear Tab (Ring Pull) typically does NOT have any coating, but the coloured tabs are coated. This is why the clear tabs get a higher price. Best bang for the buck would be to remove the clear tabs and melt the rest into ingots.
Can the coating and rubberized compound be cheaply removed, either mechanically or chemically? If so, how so?
@@preettygoood7774 I don’t know if there are any mechanical or chemical methods but melting it removes all impurities.
Saw an interesting video where a beverage can (full with lid popped) was immersed in acid for 24 hours. Came out with no metal and the liquid enclosed in the internal coating.
@@geradkavanagh8240 Sodium Hydroxide - AKA Drain cleaner. Believe it or not you can buy it from most DIY places and plenty of larger supermarkets too.
My father inlaw needs to move . He has a huge pile of cans in the barn . I'm trying to figure out what's the best fastest way to flatten them out to take to sell ? I'm thinking shoveling them on to a tarp. Fold the tarp over , throw a piece of plywood or somthing over them then drive the truck over them ? Any suggestions, we need to save time because we have alot to move plus these cans ! Thanks
Cody, apologies for the late reply. The reason for the delay is, i've been thinking each day of how you could crush all these cans quickly. I've thought of laying your tarp on top of the cans and criss crossing driving your truck all over them. An 8" x 4"ft plyboard on top of the tarp, but then you risk the plyboard snapping and damaging the underneath of your truck. All i can think of is wrap each load of cans in the tarp, cut your plyboard to 2ft wide and maybe with the 8ft lengths connect them with wood. Drill screws into the top of the plyboard and attach them with wide pieces of wood underneath to hold the plyboard together, then you will have a run of 16ft. Aim for the outer side driving forward and then the inner side reversing. You'll probably have cans being forced to the edges, but that is nothing to the bulk you will be crushing. I'd be interested to hear how you get on, plus the price that you get for the cans in your area/country. I hope that helps. Best wishes, Matt.
Just found this video 3 years after it was posted and am amazed. Very educational and the ring pulls, well I checked on ebay and was pleasantly surprised.
Better late than never 😊
I have at least 2 tons of smashed cans and was thinking of building a smelter to process them and sit on the ingots, but the more I look into that the more hesitent I become, but pulling the tabs off is a no brainer. I'll still build the oven for melting my copper and brass and also for prospecting to do my own assays and thank you Matt for the heads up on the pulltabs!
Great idea!!! I am a teacher that has mostly low income students. If we work collectively like ants, this a great idea to help pay for our freshman class trip. Thank you for sharing
Hi William, get them working like ants on the cans, but also don't forget ANY METAL has a price when weighed. Get them to pick up any metal, ask their neighbours for metal. Also any old electronics. Copper in the cables, brass in the plugs. If someone is having their bathroom renovated, take the taps off the bath and sink, the old shower is brass as well. Gas boilers. Any metal, just get them bringing it in and as I said any electronics. I'd be really interested how you get on. Hope you'll let me know. Once my health gets a little better I'll record a video on how much I got paid for my cans. Hopefully it won't be too long. I'd love you to stay in contact and keep me updated. Say Hi to all your pupils who are involved, from me. Best wishes Matt. P.S. can you let me know what part of the world you are based as well pleased. Many thanks.
Here in Western Australia and in most parts of the country, we are subsidised 10c for each beverage container including aluminium cans. The bit about tabs is the most interesting for me given that remuneration would be an extra for those. Thanks Mad Matt!
Daniel I was horrified at getting only 5p a kg, I had to see how much I could get out of a kilo. I wish we were subsidised over here. I have an idea about the silver tabs turning them into more money. Once I've done a few experiments and worked out the facts and figures I'm hoping to make a video about it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated.
Same in Queensland, I used to collect, crush and bag cans to take to scrap metal dealer 200km away( helped pay petrol costs.) Once the 10cent per can and a local drop off point came into effect, I no longer have to deal with how to get 100 to 200 kg of crushed cans down to the coast and now getting 10 times amount of money in the process.
In British Columbia, Canada we pay up front 10cents per can. That is paid back if you bring the empty cans back to a depot.
The refund is worth far more than the metal.
Bloody Well Done.
I moved bales of paper to a recycler
Made a friend in Chicago ,Dared me to Scrap for 6 months. Best bet did it for 7 years might start back up. Learning all the time in Buisneeses. Good luck 👍. Keep.up.the Good Work.
Robert obviously just reading your second comment now. If you want me to try anything or ask questions at these mills 'IF' they give me access, just drop me a comment or email. Prices are on the up. I think I did a video about copper prices. I think it was something like Copper to we Buy, Hold or Sell. That will explain the surge in prices expected. Aluminium is also one to watch out for. I believe the reason for the slow increase in price is that manufacturers are using it instead of more expensive metals. I'll hopefully find out more when I visit the mills. Best wishes, Matt.
This would be a perfect job for a person with an OCD disorder! who in their right mind would have or take the time out of their day to cut aluminum cans into strips?
That was very interesting... I am going to try it out since I am OCD also...make it a hobby!! Thanks for the breakdown...
If you in vest in a furnace and melt them in to blocks you would GRT clean aluminum from self made ingots.
Cast aluminum pays worse than cans, so I don't know why you'd do that, if money were your motivation.
Will this work in the United States?
It should work, check out the prices with your local yard first.
What a breath of fresh Air to watch your video. Thank You, God Bless and stay safe! Now I need to work it all out in U.S. and find where I can sell all of the parts. Sure makes me appreciate my Brothers (and Sisters) in other Countries. Your Wonderful! Thanks!
in the U.S. we get .10/can deposit to return it. which equals $6.70 / 67 cans or per kg. you can however remove the tabs and sell those separately for the ebay money. you can also theoretically remove the tops and the bottoms as the automatic returns just scan the bar code which is on the outside of the can. so, you would get the money for the tabs, the metal from the tops and the bottoms and still the .10/can deposit.
Bob, it's fascinating how every country works it differently. Both the US and Canada are subsidised. They did try one of those scanners in a supermarket in the UK years ago, but unfortunately some people found a way round of getting multiple amounts for a can so they stopped it. Really appreciate your comment, fascinating.
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How long does it take to cut up 67,000 cans?
I can cut about 100 cans in 2 hours, so if my maths is correct, if I did that 100 cans a day, it would take 670 days to cut that many best part of 2 years). You could be watching a film or some sort of sports match and rather than just sitting there, cut the cans and you won't notice the time go by. It is a very, very long project for anyone to undertake. The good new at the moment is Aluminium (Aluminum) has always been a low priced metal. However, at the moment it is surging in price. I believe the main factor behind it is that electronic producers are looking to use aluminium to replicate more expensive metals, such as gold and silver in their items. Whatever the reason it's worth keeping, plus it doesn't rust. With the video at least it gives people a more informed choice whether to cut and collect or not bother. I hope that answers you're question. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe, Matt.
Matt, VERY interesting...proves the old adage "know your market(s)"...and your options. Definitely food for thought !!! Thank you. Doug (USA)
Doug, after getting a pitiful 5p a kg I had to see the maximum I could get. It also gives the viewer a more informed choice of whether to cut & collect or not to bother. It's a very, very long project if anyone chooses to do so. There are many people out there who want big money NOW. If they thought of themselves as Guerrilla investors. A little bit from here, there, many places it soon adds up. Then they have the option to invest in things that might bring more profit more quickly, but keep plugging away at their bread and butter. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Matt, in reading your answer, they were my thoughts exactly. If people saw it as giving away their hard-earned cash to other people (passers-by), who worked for none of it, perhaps they would think twice about their methodology. Wisdom and KNOWLEDGE, and just a touch of patience and TIMING begets wealth, not impulse and impatience. All that you explained, I DID when I lived in Texas. Now retired and settled in Florida, I will ONCE AGAIN practice what you recommend...why settle for pennies (pence), when one can garner REAL money, with but a little time and patience. LOVE your site...keep it coming... I'm all ears. Great work !!! Doug, Florida, USA
wow this video just got re recommended to me by youtube iv all ready watched it mate this video is taking off great job 👍 how are you
I have no idea why it's taken off so much. I'll email you later.
Good explanation of everything. Thank you very much for that. Is the prices been changed since that video?🙂
Where I live, there’s a 5 cent deposit on aluminum cans and glass and plastic bottles, when you purchase beer, soda, etc. When you return your cans and bottles to the redemption center, you get your 5 cents back. So here, you can collect bottles and cans and turn them in for 5 cents each. But we do remove the ring pulls on cans for aluminum scrapping.
You haven't factored in your labor. That in itself will land you in the poor house.
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I understand where you are coming from. Perhaps look at it another way, if you were to watch a football match or film, you could sort your cans out while you're watching the TV, or you could watch the TV and not do anything resulting in no money at all. As you say if you factor in the labour costs and you were doing this day in day out then yes you would end up not only in the poor house but on the streets. Scrapping is a full time job for quite alot of people, but to me it's just a hobby. I enjoy taking things apart trying to work out how they work. I do it more for the enjoyment than financial gain. Many thanks for another interesting comment. Matt.
Hi Critical Look. I just released a new video. Copper Do we Buy, Sell or Hold. Please be aware I had another mini stroke not many days before recording, that's why I'm a bit out of it in the video, plus I've got to take one more tablet to try and control my symptoms so it makes me a bit spaced out. I'd be interested in your views, if you watch it from start to finish. I mention it to you as your comments have made me think alot and you are honest and straight to the point with your comments which I like.. Best wishes, Matt.
Hello again. I recently found out alot of information regarding aluminium (Aluminum). I'm hoping after this lockdown to visit an Aluminium Mill and maybe other metal mills as time goes by. With the different types of Aluminium if they are melted into an ingot that puts a big question mark over how much they are worth as different types of aluminium have been used to make that ingot. Fingers crossed one of these mills will allow me in and we can all have the answers we have been looking for, plus an even more insightful look into the understanding of this metal. Hope you are safe and well. Missing your Critical Look on my latest Copper videos!!! Speak soon. Matt.
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@@MGZig Thank you. Stay safe. Matt.
i would never consider working on a can so much. wow. why do you spend the time to shred up the can? we're getting 50c per pound (about $1.10 per kg) in texas
When I saw "aluminium" I knew it would be from a European viewpoint; and then I heard your speech and I knew. :) Very cool. Here in the States, you need a large box truck full of cans (thousands) to make it worth even taking it to the collection site. I just give my empties to a neighbor who doesn't mind doing all that work.
My Welsh accent gave it away. I hope my accent isn't too strong. I've had many people from all over the world comment or email. Parts of Australia have a subsidy from the Government to make it worth their while. Canada runs the same deposit scheme as some states in the U.S. We get a pitiful 5p per kg. What originally started out as a video, how to get the most from a kg of soda cans, has now taken quite a big leap. I don't know whether you have seen people making Aluminum (I hope I spelt that the correct North American way) ingots? I found out last week that there are many different types of Aluminum. As Aluminum is an alloy they could, for example, add more tin and zinc to one mix, maybe more tin less zinc to another. People who melt these ingots are using different types of Aluminum making it difficult for analysts to even put a price on them, they probably are almost worthless. After lockdown has finished here in Wales (England, Scotland and Northern Ireland all have their separate rules for lockdown) I am hoping to visit an Aluminum Mill where I will hopefully be allowed to video and interview one of the Directors. There seems to be a big blank in peoples knowledge of what happens to the scrap after you drop it off at the yard and where it goes, what happens to it, how do they separate the materials and how do they resmelt it. Fingers crossed they will allow me in and not only will I get my answers but hopefully whoever watches the video will get their questions answered. I've written an essay, almost a book in response to your comment...lol. Many thanks for your comment, I appreciate it very much. Stay safe. Matt.
Great video price in the us is somewhat different up to $0.68 to $0.31 usd per pound of weight a whole can useparated
Chris, after receiving a pitiful 5p per kg, I had to see how much I could possibly get from a kg of cans. I just scrap for a hobby. I go through times where I might cut and collect a 1000 cans then not touch any for months. If anybody decides to do it, they can now make a more informed choice. However you look at it, if you decide to cut and collect it's a long term project. However in these times of survival any money is better than none. Many thanks for your comment. Thanks for letting me know.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 unless you just enjoy cutting them up like that - you might want to see if theres a better place to sell to.
Aluminum is essentially a world wide price and it is around 1$ usd per lb at the time (with scrappers at a good yard getting 3/4 to 2/3 of market price)
Hi matt liked and subscribed to your channel. I myself collect aluminium cans .I also collect the ring pulls .but I never thought of cutting the top and bottoms of so it's clean aluminium. from now on ill be following your method. What a great video and very informative m8 👍
Hey buddy, been thinking of you after watching your videos. I;m not fully up to date, but i'm getting there. Any chance you can email me when you've got time? don39t_give_up202063@aol.com
Well done Brother,,, do think I should melting copper or just leave it as is ,thx again
Stick with copper and brass. I'll be releasing a video soon why Aluminium ingots aren't worth much at all. Stay safe. Matt.
Some 45 years ago my grandmother used to have us collect the ring pulls which she then sent to a charity. That was in the day when they came all the way off.
My 150 sheet paper shredder will finally be worth buying I had it for a year and not used it to much
Edit I had an empty can I put it in the shredder it shred the thicc part to
That's one heck of a powerful machine you've got there. One subscriber suggested I soak the cans in Acetone, use wire wool to get the remaining paint off and the whole can would be clean ally. I haven't looked into the chemical properties of Acetone yet. Powdered Citric Acid is amazing stuff. I used it to get all the rust off old vintage tools when I was renovating them. I could use that and use wire wool to get the remainder of the paint off. What started as a video that I originally made because I got a pitiful 5p kg and I wanted to see the maximum I could get out of kg of cans, has turned out to be fascinating. USA different states pay different amounts per can, the same in Canada, Australia they have some sort of subsidy in place, while the UK we get a pitiful amount. Many thanks for your comment. I'll be looking up the price of 150 sheet paper shredders now..lol. Your feed back is much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt,
Ali cans have a food safe lining, so it is not just the paint that is the issue.
@@ramblingman8992 I'm going to try an experiment soon that should take the ink and food safe lining off at the same time. I'll also take the can down the yard and see what they class the top and bottom as and then the middle section. I'm expecting some kind of rolled ally for the middle. We'll see what they say. I'll make a video once I've got it sorted and it'll be interesting to see what they say. Thanks again for your comment. Stay safe. Matt.
If you melt it all down and sell it as pure aluminum will you get more for it ?
I’ve only started collecting and have been using a can opener sideways to pop the top since the top and body are made from two different alloys. I never realized there was such a market for the ring pulls! Thanks much for the info!! Nice work! Also, I think it might be Canada Dry that has a green ring pull.
Michael if they are green you'll definitely get a good price for them on Ebay. with the silver ring pulls I might have an idea how to make them different colours. When I've got everything together I'll make a video. If it works then we are all going to benefit, if it doesn't you can all have a good laugh at my expense. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Please do we get better prices if we smelt them
in Australia they raised the price of all aluminium cans by 15 cents each and opened recycle centres that pay 10 cents per can or glass plastic bottle... so once per month 3 of us load up the car and sell 35 to 55 $ worth and go to lunch at the club... obviously people walk the streets and raid rubbish bins for the cans and bottles so at least we have more recycling. years ago we would separate out our glass and cns into the recycle bin, but depending upon their logistics those trucks sometimes just dumped the pure recycle into the main waste dump...
So that is how it works in Australia. I've had alot of comments from Australia saying they receive 10 cents per can. I didn't know about the glass bottles. That's an excellent incentive. Some other subscribers from Australia said that only certain parts of the country receive the 10 cents? It's very similar to parts of USA. Some states give a similar amount per can, then other states don't pay anything. Canada has a deposit scheme on cans and glass alcohol bottles as well. Subscribers in Switzerland and Germany said it's illegal to scrap in their countries, everything is taken away by their local authority. Germany pays money per can with the deposit scheme as well. In the UK they have pushed hard for as much to be recycled as possible. We have a bin for bottles, a bag for paper, a bag for cardboard and another bag for plastics, foil, orange juice cartons and a couple more things. It's time consuming but they collect bin bags every 2 weeks. If they see any items in there that should be recycled they leave the bag and a note saying why they won't take the bags. As the cans are in small bags I could easily collect 20,000 cans in a week. Imagine that if you had 20,000 cans per week at 10 cents a can!!! What do I get for a kg (2.2lb) 67 cans? A pitiful 5 pence. I think that is about 2.5 cents in your currency. Many thanks for watching the video and commenting, both are very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 you cannot sell refund on plastic milk bottles, nor wine bottles, nor aerosol cans but almost everything else earns ten cents ...
Can you bleach all the paint off? Would that be cost effective if you did it right?
very good and I appreciate the insight to a different way stored assets And good luck with your UA-cam channel
As regards assets. Try taking a look at one of my latest video. I think it is called Sold Copper or Scrap metal - what do we invest our money in? It doesn't take much money to start and gives you a profit within 2-3 years. Hope that proves of use as well. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Nice job and a very informative eye opener but what if you just powder coat (paint) the silver pull tabs any color you want wouldn't that be a easier and faster way of making more money? Just wondering if it'd be feasible I hope you can good luck and thank you for the information
That's an interesting idea. I'll Google that and see what comes up. The people who buy the pull tabs use them to make earrings, jewellery, knitting, crotchet, they are just some I have heard about. I wonder if what you suggest would be possible without any harm caused to people wearing the jewellery? I'll look into it. If I find anything out i'll let you know. Many thanks for your comment, really interesting. Best wishes.
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The color tabs are anodized, not powder coated. Two different beasts.
The combined cost of the powder coat equipment and material, oven, electricity, and labor, all detracts from your profits.
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Powder coating is essentially toner for laser printers, but available in a larger range of colors, and of course at higher prices due to marketing strategies.
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@@criticallook5162 Interesting you should point this out. I've had other subscribers suggesting ways of colouring the pull rings, plus ways of getting the ink off the can so it is completely ink free and you are left with clean Aluminum (I did remember this time with the spelling). As you say it comes down to cost. I will make videos about both. If I don't try then none of will know. One thing I love about comments is everybody giving idea, tips, tricks and sharing knowledge. Not sure when I'll release the videos, hopefully when I do, I would appreciate your input. Best wishes, Matt.
@@criticallook5162 I looked into it. It is fascinating how they do it, but the actual equipment and process would far outstrip the money to be made on the pull tabs. What I enjoy about having a You Tube channel is everybody's comments. The suggestions, ideas, knowledge people have and share plus the tips and tricks. It fascinates me. If you have time to watch any further videos please feel free to comment. with some of the subscribers ideas I am going to try. If they work then that will be excellent for everybody, if they fail then you can all have a laugh at me at my expense. Thanks again. Matt.
What if you melt it down, remove the slag and pour ingots? That should make all #1 aluminum then at the top dollar?
Unfortunately not. I thought exactly the same. I found out last week that there are different types of Aluminium (Aluminum). Some have more tin and zinc in the mix, less zinc, less tin etc. That means the people who are making these ingots are making mixed Aluminium ingots and no expert can put a real value on them. What I am hoping to do after lockdown, is visit an Aluminium Mill. I can then ask all the questions that have been bothering myself and other subscribers and we will finally get a full in depth explanation. I'm also hoping to visit other metal mills to do the same with them. Quite a few of them, their smelting works are abroad so I will have to settle for a verbal explanation. It just seems to be a big blank in our understanding of where our scrap goes from the scrapyard, where it ends up, how it is sorted and remelted. Hopefully I'll be able to make a video about it and we will all be much the wiser. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Doom Racing I just made a video Why DIY Aluminum Ingots are Worthless. Fascinating to research. If you have time to check it out, it explains everything. Thanks, Matt.
Question from the US. do you put all the shreded soda and beer cans together or do you keep separate when you sell them.
I keep the shredded soda and beer cans in one bag, then the clean aluminium tops and bottoms in another bag or box. The silver tops and bottoms of the soda cans and beer cans would be considered clean aluminium where I live, then the shredded parts I will get a much lower price. Hope that answers your question. Many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Very much appreciated. Matt.
New subscriber from Tuscaloosa Alabama-USA. I own a heating and air company but I worked for Scrapyard while I was going to school and you’re right what you said to somebody Most scrap yards take different things and they classify them different.
Chad thank you for subscribing and welcome to the party, sort of anyway. The comments i've received from different parts of the world and the UK have been fascinating. Some scrap yards keep it simple then others have a vast array of categories you have to put your scrap into. I've now learnt from being on You Tube that the comments are so flipping interesting. People's knowledge, asking questions, sharing tips and tricks. I've been fascinated. Many thanks for your comment & subscribing, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Wow. Great info. Digging cans out of the trash can
Thank you sir. I learned alot, thank you for sharing it with us. God bless you and yours.
Thank you. It was one of my early videos and yes i did talk alot. In all my videos I talk alot. UA-cam say to keep a video to 10 minutes. That's impossible for me as not only do I talk alot but I like to know the history of metals where and how things came about. I've got no engineering or mechanical experience and it fascinates me how these things are put together and work. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Very interesting,be well,from Montreal Canada.
I’ve got a ring pull off a sanmiguel can and it’s gold on the outside and silver on the underneath!it’s a hybrid lol How much is that worth then???
Approximately £0.035 - £0.04. £6.99 per 200
Doing one can every two minutes on average, It would take you approximately 93 days to do 67,000 cans, only if you worked non stop, 24 hours a day , with zero breaks to eat, sleep, or bathroom breaks!
If you’d break it down to what you would earn, you’d pocket somewhere around a cool £ 0.19 an hour for 2,233 hours.
Killjoy!
We are lucky in Australia we have collection areas at supermarket outlets. We return our bottles and cans through a chute... it automatically totals how many we put through. It prints out a voucher with the money total received. We get 10 cents for EACH can or bottle. The voucher is cashed in at the supermarket. We can choose to take the money or have it deducted from our groceries.
Janet they tried that in the UK many years ago, they didn't pay as much as 10 cents. Unfortunately they either didn't build the machine properly where they did a trial run, but as usual a minority spoilt it for the majority. Somehow they found a way of cutting the cans and got more from one can than they should have. Needless to say the trial ended. It was such a shame as alot of people used it and they soon built up a fair amount that they put towards their Christmas shopping. The money was put on their supermarket loyalty card so they could cash it in anytime. A good idea but as I said the minority spoilt it for the majority. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
The scrapyard i use in my part of the UK pays the same per kilo for ali cans as it does for cast or extruded.
In other words, they pay the same top price regardless.
It is always worth calling a few yards to check.
I'm lucky with my yard they pay different prices for different aluminium. Clean, extruded etc. I know some people just get one flat rate. Also I only have one scrapyard in my area and they are fair and give good prices so I am lucky. As you say, in other areas it is best to shop around for the best prices. Thanks for your comment.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 no your not lucky, the price is normally the same . you dont need to go cutting them up. the price is already the same as other aliminum. . 60 p per kilo ... at 5p you just got ripped to bits..
@@philldownes8685 Phill I'll reply fully in one of your other comments. Thanks. Matt.
Can you cut off bottom and top and ring tab and melt into aluminum bars and instead of shredding the painted remains of can..put that piece with barcode in can return machine and still get full refund of 10cents per can plus all tops bottoms and pull tabs you melt down or just scrap as is?
derby ct. It's interesting you should say that. I''ve been on the phone and emailing aluminium (Aluminum) mills today, with no success. I gained a little information that not all aluminium is the same grade. So if I was to make ingots, not only do i not know how much gas it will cost but how much I will get for an ingot if i mix the aluminium. I made phone calls was put through to somebody else, you know the feeling, then they said email this person they will get back to you. They didn't so I'll send 2 emails tomorrow, 3 the next, 4 the next. You get the idea, until I get the answer we are all looking for. When I find out I'll make a video. With the bar code machines they did a trial in certain parts of our country. As always people abused it, found out how to get more money for one can and it was stopped. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 that would be great video on cost of propane or charcoal and hairdryer (electricity ) prices vs ingots price etc. Loved your video
Derby CT I just released a video Why DIY Aluminum cans are worthless. If you have got time to check it out it was interesting researching it.
when we built our forge we took the few bags of cans we had and melted them down into ingots, we had about 56 cans to a 14 ounce ingot of clean aluminum after scraping all the slag away. but we also have a mill and other tools so it's cheaper still since we can use those ingots to machine parts out of!
I released a video a couple of days ago why Aluminium/Aluminum Ingots are worthless. If you have time maybe check it out. I was surprised by some of the things that came out of my research. Thanks. Matt.
that is my plan for my cans and other aluminum scrap
Matt, how much time do you waste doing all that can cutting? Did you figure in what all that time costs?
To be honest Christopher I have no idea. I think I tried once for an hour and it worked out the same for stripping copper wire (2 & 3 gauge) or it was worth a little more than stripping copper, but prices have changed since then. Do I sit there cutting cans no. I made the video as I traded in cans a few years previously and i received about £1.50 a kg. This time it was 5p. The point of the video it just to see the maximum you could make per kg. Many thanks for watching and commenting I appreciate both. Thanks, Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Thank you for that update.
Many states in the US you get a redemption value that is paid at the register as a tax.
If they are beverage cans you get that value at the recycler.
I just went and CRV was 1.65 a pound .
Mark, it's been fascinating the comments i've had from different countries. The US and Canada are both subsidised for the cans. Shame we aren't in the UK. I'm sure you can understand why I made the video after receiving a pitiful 5p a kg. Years ago it was £1.50 kg, that's about $1.95. At least it gives people in non subsidised countries a more informed choice. Many thanks for your comment, fascinating and much appreciated. Matt.
Not all aluminum cans. For instance, Monster drinks do not have a deposit (in Iowa, USA). So they are treated as scrap aluminum.
@@geoffreylohff3876 Geoffrey, if they haven't got a deposit, you've got me intrigued now. what colour are the ring pulls!!! That's where the easy money is. Thanks for commenting. Stay safe. Matt.
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Looking at one right now. The pulls are the "round" tabs in silver, but the top side is painted black with a little monster M on it.
If you're selling them to the craft people, the black could be useful.
@@geoffreylohff3876 The Black colour is a god colour to keep hold of to sell. Other colours are Red & Orange.
Thats for the reply Matt, and your willingness for more info later. I hit reply to your note, but got directed back here, so if there are other readers, this follow up note might not make entire sense.
In your note, I think you meant to state that the value of a pound was $1.40, but it showed the British pound symbal that I do not have on my KB.
As for shreds, if you cut the 'middle' section once, after separating it from the top and bottom, then straighten it out, they would 'stack' up. You might find a container the right shape and size, or build one, and then keep a weight on them.
I look forward to your additional info.
Again, thanks
jim
Also, do they really spell aluminium that way in GB ? I have always noticed how Brits pronounce it different from us.
Thanks for the price break down. Always wondered what the price would be across the pond. In the USA some states strongly request that you recycle certain used up material, ie; metal cans, cardboard, plastic, etc. In Iowa, we pay .05 cents per container of pop, beer, etc. We can buy boxes and bags at our redemption centers, for sorting the empty metal cans/ plastic bottles. Bags are marked for 240 cans, earns you $12 dollars for the bag. About 90 1/2 litre bottles will fit in the bag, and about 45 full size litre bottles will fit. i read that the tops are worth more money, cause they are all dense metal. i have thought about melting down the metal cans that i don't get enough money for, then sell it to a local business who uses the metal for their end product. Have you thought about melting down the metal cans ?
Ron I've had many subscribers from the U.S. saying about deposits on cans, but not in so much depth and detail. Thank you, that has brought real clarity. With melting down the cans or any metal into ingots, I would say, wait until I film a video that I am trying to get permission for at the moment. I recently found out there are many different types of Aluminium (Aluminum). when people melt them into ingots they are mixing these different types of Aluminium. This makes them worth not alot of money. I am hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill soon, (if they allow me in) and I would like to fill in the big blank from what happens to our scrap when it is dropped off at the yard, where does it go, how is it separated, and remelted into the final product. Some Aluminium could have more tin content or zinc or both. If they allow me in to video and interview, that will answer my questions and many peoples questions as well. I would like to visit other metal mills as well to understand the process there. Fingers crossed they'll allow me to interview them. Many thanks for your highly informative comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Hello just a quick question have you asked the scrap yard if that works or has someone told you that. does it work and has it worked for you
How are you getting different prices for your colored scrap pieces?
Charles the top and bottoms are considered clean ally, so you get a different price, because of the ink on the coloured middle that is treated as shred ally price. It's the same throughout the UK. One subscriber said to soak them in Acetone then wire wool the remainder ink off, but i don't know the chemical properties as yet. Citric acid, the powder form is brilliant for the same use. I used to clean my collection of vintage tools up with it. Amazing for rust. Once all the ink is off i would get clean aluminum prices then. Alot of work though. All scrap yards give different prices for all sorts of metal. Something that is shred in one yard is considered something else in another yard. It can get confusing, I have one yard near me and they are fair and good with payment, so I can't complain. Many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. I hope I have answered your queston as best I could. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 thats total rubbish.. the place you go to rips you off big time
@@philldownes8685 I'll reply in your third comment. Thanks. Matt.
T'was very interesting. Thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm curious if the pulltabs are more valuable if I were to anodize them (ie: coloured by me, at home, rather than the manufacturer). Hmmm...
Exemplary analysis my friend. just a thought if I may, where I live on the west coast of The United States, small companies that used to buy aluminum have gone out of business. This however does not affect the larger regional recycling companies. Aluminum still has value. Because local communities offer no way to sell ones aluminum cans, it occurs an entrepreneur could buy quantity of cans from locals, perhaps even paying a small bit more, 6 or 7 pence for example, and process the cans with a small crew and actually realize an economic profit. fun to think about anyways. I look forward to more of your videos. Thank you.
Can you not crush them and stockpile them in builder sacks until you have a good weight then using a cheap crude furnace setup melt them into muffin tins then weigh them in or stock pile them until the price goes up or sell the billets on ebay for casting as I have seen others do on youtube. I am no expert on tins 😀
Mr e Shed, welcome. I've looked at Devil Forge's but no fellow You Tubers can give me a definitive answer on how much gas they use. I might do as you say, Somewhere build a basic forge, perhaps use a hairdryer to blow the oxygen in and see if I can get the required heat to melt the aluminium. Certainly better than cutting and collecting. Time will tell. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
MR e Shed, I recently released a video Why DIY Aluminum Ingots are Worthless. If you have got time to check it out, it explains everything in the video. Many thanks. Matt.
what is the amount in american money? Ican figure out the pound is = to 2.00 in u.s.a. but the quid and other calculations are a bit fuzzy so if some thing $420 is it 840 dollars?
Slight problem - if you have a tonne of cans and get a certain price that's one thing but if you start cutting the cans into variably priced parts then you can't price the shred and tops and ringpulls into seperate tonnes as you only had the one tonne to start with , so in creating 1 tonne of shred and 1 tonne of top/bottoms and 1 tonne of ringpulls how many cans in total do you need ? ------loaves and fishes bauy and I cannot be arsed to work it out ...............................but I did learn something so cheers for that.
Hi so how much would takeaway containers come to if cleaned price wise I mean.? Cheers for your videos.
I would say nothing. The reason being they contain toxins. If you watch my video about Plastics. I think it is called Plastics the shocking and horrifying truth, I explain in the video about all the types of plastics and you'll be shocked at what each category of plastics contain, somewhere in the video it will explain about takeaway containers, whether it be cups or takeaway containers, the sort used for Chinese food or kebabs. I hope the video helps. It is a long video but there's so much to explain about each plastic. The only one worth recycling are the HDPE for type, which you can warm up in the oven and make art out of, circular clocks, phone holder/chargers anything you can think of. Hope that helps. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Most take away containers in the UK are aluminium the cups or bowls are polystyrene.
@@raibeart1955 I hadn't thought about the containers being aluminium, shows how long it is since I've had a take away. That's one thing I can't answer sorry. Once washed out and crushed I assume it would be classed as clean aluminium or tin foil aluminium. I'll check at my local yard what they would be classed as. Next time you have one of the containers I'd be interested to know the weight. The cups and bowls made from polystyrene come under plastics. Pretty frightening what the heat of the food releases from the polystyrene, the toxins mix with your food and you eat those toxins. If you have got a bit of time on your hands and are able to watch the video, what is relevant to you, you'll be shocked at what we are eating and drinking from. If you are able to weigh an aluminium takeaway container, I'd be interested to hear what the weight is. As I said, in the mean time I'll check with my local yard what aluminium they would class it as. Many thanks for the comment, much appreciated. You've got me thinking know. I have to know...lol. Hopefully speak soon. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Hi Matt, The container I just weighed comes in at 0.2 grams which is possibly about average. This just reminded me of when I was a child in Scotland, There was a mining disaster in Wales and the whole country saved and washed the milk bottle tops which were aluminium back in the 1960’s to help along with their spare change etc. We even learned to knit squares to make blankets out of spare wool . I suppose it was a way for us kids to show empathy and care for others. All the best.
Catching up mate. Interesting. I do a crafty I flatten them and suff them inside ally tubes and flatten them again. Never thought of taking the tabs off or picking them up. And never apologise for OCD its a mental illness. I'm terrible with it.
My mind is one of those that if I don't get the full answer i have to research and go all out until i get the answer i am looking for. Annoying to some people, my research is interesting to others. Stay safe. Speak soon.
Very interesting . Am curious where do you find the values of bottles online. I have a few in my woods would like to know where to get money from them? Is it only ebay? Thanks. Not too over talkative because I like listening to someone who knows and is interested in what they are doing . Blessings.
Hi Kimberly, apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I had all the information you needed on screen, then my computer crashed and I forgot about you, sorry. To determine the price of your bottles, there are 4 main types of bottle. Open pontil, Iron Pontil, Smooth Based Bottles and Machine Made Bottles. The oldest bottles are used with the pontil method where the glass maker would blow through the tube and cut it off at the bottom of the bottle. That's the easiest way I can explain it. However, just because it's old doesn't mean it's worth a fortune. different colours are worth more than others, different times in history, different categories, even if a celebrity has started collecting a certain style of bottle. Has it got it's original label? There's alot to understand and learn. If you have time to reply, the best I could do for you is if you could tell me what country you live in, and then I could then recommend a book or two, plus different countries have different avenues of selling, without having to go through Ebay, or even worse an auction house. If you don't like the idea of leaving your country of residence in the comments just email me at the following address: don39t_give_up202063@aol.com Hope to speak soon. Stay safe. Matt.
Hi matt as I have never been to recycling plant in the uk before but I am thinking of going Into business for this
Will recycling plants accept cut ✂️ cans please
Hi Waqas, yes they will accept the cuttings as, even though they are cut into smaller pieces, they are still classed as aluminium cans. You could chop them in half or crush them after taking the top and bottom off. It all depends on how much space and time you have. Some people dismiss particular types of metal, as they don't think it is worth their while. Personally I think any piece of metal is worth collecting as it has some value. If you are unsure of any metals or what to look out for if you start going into business, feel free to email me. My email address is usually in the description notes under every video. Almost forgot, don't forget to get the relevant licences you need to work as a legal scrappie. I'm not sure where you get one. Try your local council offices, I'm sure they will deal with things such as that. Best of luck if you go into business. Many thanks for watching and commenting, both are really appreciated. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 thank you soo much for your wonderful help really appreciate it I will email you I will need more help
Hi, I hope your feeling better. I turn 44 this april and have have had 2 minor and 2 moderate strokes since 2009. I'm thinking about getting into scrapping maybe once I get the covid shot. I've had quite a number of P.E's and DVT's (blood clots in my lungs and legs) I get winded easy so this might be something I can do at my own pace for some income. Do you think maybe a HD paper shredder could handle the scraps. If you could make some automation and work smarter not harder. I will have to see what scrap prices are, here in the states... Do people that smelt pure aluminum ingots at home get more money per ton?
RedRam302 I had a subscriber who had a 150 piece paper shredder and he said it worked a treat on the shred.. I'm releasing a video saying exactly what I've got in a few hours time. I know the feeling of getting winded. Heavy things kill me. Washing machines and things like that. People smelt aluminum ingots, copper and brass. It's a bit of an investment to start with but you get purer metal at the end of the process worth more money. The only thing I haven't got an answer for is how much propane gas it takes to melt each bar and how much profit you' be making. I think it is definitely something you can do to raise some income, just don't over do it, otherwise you'll get exhausted. You might be better off emailing me don39t_give_up202063@aol.com so I can give you a more in depth answer before you start scrapping. First port of call is definitely the scrap yard, they should give you a print out of all their prices. If you don't understand what they are going on about with some of the prices just ask and they will tell you. If you have a couple of scrapyards in your area go round them all and get their prices, see who pays the most. Some scrapping can be done while you're watching TV. Definitely email me and I'll give you a far more in depth explanation plus other ways of making money. Look forward to hearing from you. Just remember any form of metal is worth money. No matter how little or big, what type of metal. I always take a bag out with me and some side snips and I might only come back with a little after a walk but it's worth something. On your walk you might see bigger items that you could drive back for after. Just email me and we'll take it from there. Many thanks. Matt.
Hi RedRam302, firstly I was wondering how you are getting along, if you have decided to get into scrapping as a side hustle? Hope you've had your first jab, I had a letter yesterday giving me my date for April. If you are getting into it, I'd be interested to see how you get on. I found out recently that melting aluminium (Aluminum) ingots isn't a good idea. You are mixing different types of Aluminium which makes them worth not alot of money. I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium (Aluminum) Mill soon, if they allow me in to interview them. I think there is a big blank between when we drop of our metal, where it goes, how it is separated and how it is remelted into the final product. If they do grant me an interview then that will answer not only alot of my questions but viewers questions as well, especially ingots. When and if you have time to reply, it would be interesting to hear what decision you made. Stay safe. Matt.
Very interesting and useful.
Thank you Andreas. Watch out in the coming months when hopefully i will be visiting different Metal Mills for them to explain the full process of what happens to our scrap when we drop it off at the scrapyard, where it goes, how it is sorted and how they resmelt it. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated, Stay safe. Matt.
I live in New York and for me cans are worth .06 cents each which means you get $6.00 USD per 100 cans. You pay a deposit when you buy any soda in a can or bottle. within the state of New York, and they return it back to you when you recycle it. I live less than 5 minutes from another state that doesn't charge that deposit and we do all our shopping in that state and then return the cans or bottles to New York.
$6.00 per 100 cans compared to 5p for 67 cans here in the UK!!! That's brilliant that you can go over to the other state and redeem the money in your state, keep going. With the comments from USA it's surprising how each state differs with the amount they pay. Wish they paid that much over here. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Unfortunately, these "bottle laws" only exist in a handful of states. In most of the US, you will only get scrap price which is around 30 cents per pound or 65-70 per kilo. Still better than 5, I guess.
@@KosstAmojan Hi Koost Amojan. For me living in the UK America is such a vast country, it's been so interesting the comments people have left. Different parts of the US have different ways of paying, or not, Canada has the deposit scheme, parts of Australia have a subsidy in place. Here in the UK we have nothing...sigh, apart from a pitiful 5p a kg. Many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
IDK , what part of over 50 yrs you seen . Deposit was enacted in 1983 . 5 cents . Hasn't changed . Current stores and redemtion centers get 3.5 cents for handling and still is - this state (suxwithcoumo) . So dont mislead the guy .
In sweden we get 1.00 SEK per can.
So 67 cans is 5,45 pounds today in sweden. Big diffrent.
So fore one ton we get 54 468,90 pounds today in sweden.
Thanks!
Alex, you've made me very jealous with your comment. Prices over here are still pitiful for alot of metals. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Both are much appreciated. Take care. Matt.
What do you get if you melted it into ingots?
Cindy thank you for your comment. when you melt them you get as pure aluminium as you can, even though it's an alloy. People estimate you lose about 40% of the cans as dross (rubbish metals). You have to keep using a stainless steel spoon to scoop the dross off the top, put to one side to be disposed of later. On the secondary market 1kg of aluminium is roughly £10 British Sterling top price. What has stopped me from buying a devil forge to melt copper, brass or aluminium is, no fellow You Tuber knows how much gas they use to create 1kg of aluminium. So you might use £20 in gas to create a £10 ingot. I'll need to research it some more. Other subscribers have given ideas how to get the ink off so the cans are totally clean aluminium. I'll make a video, or videos once I have compiled all their suggestions. I hope that answers your question. If you have any further questions don't be afraid to reach out either with a comment or email. Many thanks for your comment and subscribing to my channel I really do appreciate it. Stay safe. Matt.
In plain (and 100% certain) English, that would be an enormous waste of time, effort, and money. Don't do it; unless you just like looking at ingots.
Scrap yards have no way of knowing if your ingots are pure. They know what they're getting when the see a can, or a piece of window frame, or a rim. Your ingot is a mystery, and most scrap yards will give you their lowest aluminum price for it.
@@johnafagerquist8235 John thanks for your comment. Absolutely fascinating. With melting any metals, I must admit I have been tempted to buy a Devil's Forge, but it all seems a bit dangerous and also are you gaining anything by melting these ingots? Aluminum is an alloy and one of the worst paying. A pitiful 5p a kg for all those cans!!! Many thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. I love how people are sharing their knowledge and tips and tricks. If you do happen to watch any further videos and notice anything I've missed or need to be corrected on please feel free. I really appreciate you taking your time to comment and subscribe. Stay safe. Matt.
@@johnafagerquist8235 John, after reading your comment you are absolutely spot on!!! I've done some research and you are so right they cannot put a price on the ingot if it is a mix of different Aluminium (Aluminum). After lockdown I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill. We will then know where our scrap goes from the yard, the different types of Aluminium. Being an alloy they obviously put more Zinc and Tin in for one mix and a different mix for another. It just feels like there's a huge blank between our understanding of what happens in the process between dropping off our scrap at the yard, where it goes and how they remelt. If I could visit other metal mills that would be fascinating for all of us as well. If you have got any spare time to reply I really would appreciate your input and ideas. Many thanks. Stay safe. Matt.
@@johnafagerquist8235 John your comment kicked off my curious mind. I just released a video Why DIY Aluminium Ingots are Worthless. Fascinating subject to research. If you have got time to check it out, I hope my research is correct. Best wishes. Matt.
Absolutely fascinating! I actually checked up on ebay and darn if the pull tabs aren't there at the kind of prices you mentioned. Who'd a thought...
Thank you very much for the price break down!
Mitchell thanks for the comment. I found out last week that there are many different types of Aluminium. People who melt aluminium (Aluminum) ingots are mixing different types of aluminium, this makes them worth not alot of money, because they've mixed the aluminium the analysts cannot put a price on them. I'm hoping to visit an Aluminium Mill in the next few weeks, so we can see what happens to our aluminium once we drop it off at the scrap yard, where it goes, how it is separated, then smelted into different types. Some have more tin, or zinc, some have more tin and zinc. It just seems a big blank in our understanding of the whole process. If i'm able to I'm hoping to visit other types of metal mills, so it not only answers my questions but alot of peoples questions. Once again, many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Where u getting the prices for the metal to sell
Did you say that the ring pulls are not aluminum but another metal??
No I didn't as I treated those as separate as that is the easiest and most money you can make from a can. From what I remember is it mostly magnesium? Please correct me if I am wrong. I have had an idea how to change the colours of the ring pulls. It'll take me a little time to construct what I have in mind. If it works then everybody benefits, if it doesn't then you can all have a laugh at my expense. Really interesting point you raise about the ring pulls being another metal. In the past couple of weeks I realised how many different types of Aluminium (aluminum) there are. When people melt aluminium ingots they are using different types of aluminium in the ingots which makes them worth not alot of money. I'm trying my best to gain access to an Aluminium Mill for an interview with one of the directors to answer alot of viewers questions.. I haven't fully researched aluminium as yet. I believe it was touched on by somebody in 1825 then another gentleman in 1827 when it was added to the periodic table. It's interesting that what some people call Nordic Gold is used to make 5, 10 & 50 cent euros. Then there are cans, ladders, extruded aluminium etc. It would be interesting to find out what mix of metals they use for each one. Trying to get an interview with this particular company is HARD & tedious but i'll persist. Fingers crossed they allow me access. I think it would prove a fascinating insight into Aluminium. Many thanks for your comment, very much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Copied this from newspaper in 2008: (Aug2008) Here's a thought: If you had purchased £1,000 of Northern Rock shares one year ago , they would now be worth £4.95. With HBOS, earlier this week your £1,000 would have been worth £16.50. £1,000 invested in XL Leisure would now be worth less than £5.00, but if you bought £1,000 worth of Tennent's Lager one year ago, drank it all, then took the empty cans to an aluminium recycling plant, you would get £214.00!!!🤣
Thanks for the info Matt, i am considering going into the metal recycling business, and obviously found the video very interesting and informative...
Stephen, I've been looking for your comment for ages. If you're considering getting into the recycling business, maybe start off small as a hobby scrapper. If you do it full time, dependant upon which country you are in, you will need a permit, plus if it is ewaste I think you need a permit for that as well. Copper and brass are the 2 main metals everybody are after, but even a tonne of steel will get you £5-600 per day. Find a local scrapyard or if you are lucky enough to have more than one near you, just call into their office and ask for their price list of their metals. Each day the prices change but it will give you a good idea of what everything is worth. If you decide to give it a go, I wish you all the very best. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Both are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Hi Stephen, it's nice seeing your comment on Matt video, I am also going into recycling in Nigeria, I have been into it for over 10years, working for a firm , wish you all the best , and will want to know your progress report.
I think I will now be drinking Stella, as I got LOADS of Tops, bottoms, Ringpull's, not forgetting Shard's & crushed cans of Kronenberg beer can's all bagged up. I at least realised the differences between Top's n Bottom's etc. many thank's for the heads up, Matt. P/S. I was recommended to use a CERAMIC Cruicable Instead of the normal one. No doubt I will see. Thanks again. You're quite an Inspiration!👍
Hi Mat as I was getting confused what kind of license would I need for cans collection please
If you are only collecting cans then personally I wouldn't get a licence. If you were loading washing machines, any white goods or other metals into a van or pick up and the Police saw you, they would ask you to provide the paperwork for your licences. They changed the laws a few years ago and enforced these licences and no cash payment when you take your scrap into the scrap yard. The cash is obvious for tax evasion, I can't remember the reason for the licences. I don't know anything about what licence, or licences you need. Maybe phone your local Council and just enquire about licences, or licence, you would need. I wouldn't mention the cans, just say you are thinking of going into business collecting scrap metal and what licences you need and how much it would cost you. Don't give any of your details, just say you are just making a general enquiry for prices, what licences you need to see if it is worth your while going into business. I take cutters everywhere I go and cut off the cables of any items people leave out. The copper and brass soon mounts up. I hope that helps. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 thank you that has helped as I wasn't sure my focus is just cans I won't be collecting any other metal as I have had a big interest in those just hope I can get started ASAP
It's shit like this why America wanted out of your system. A license to scrap metal? You people will put up with anything from your government.
I have can crusher on my garage wall I drink a beer pull off the tab from being 6in tall it's less three inches so I'm happy with that
As long as you're happy that's all that matters. The pulls rings are the easiest money. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Dear Matt - obviously you let yr mind run along wherever it likes to go. Kudos, that is a rare talent and so rare as to be priceless. Thank you very much for being willing to share that attitude. Great things can come out of garages. Way I see it you just gave base knowledge to a lot of people who maybe could use it well.Thank you for that also. Opened My eyes. Never look at a pull-tab the same again :) By the way, your humble and very clear presentation is a pleasure to hear. Enjoyed the clip. Will look for others on account of I like yr approach to life,er, philosophy
Dear Alan, I do let my mind run wherever it wants to go. I'm the sort of person that if I haven't got the full answer I have to research and ask questions until I get the full answer. Unlike other scrappers who just quickly take things apart, I like to take things apart but try and work out how they work. I'm not that bothered about the financial gain, it's more the knowledge. Also breaking things down as I did in this video. To some people it may be boring, exhaustive treatment of what i am talking about, but as you said, I made the video just to show people how to maximise their profit, if they have the patience. In life, i'm very laid back. I learnt many, many years ago to adopt my way of thinking. it gives a person a happier life not getting stressed or worked up about anything. If problems arise I look at it as a puzzle and think there's always an answer, which there is. As regards being humble, at the end of the day, we all have 2 legs, 2 arms, eat and drink the same, go to toilet the same, so just accept things for what they are. Makes life far easier. Saying that I did get a little wound up in one of my latest videos, Copper, Do we Buy, Hold or Sell. Goodness I feel as if I've written an essay or book to you. Alan many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Strewth, over the years I have collected and crushed a few tons of cans. Never looked at it this way. Usually pick up a kilo over a 2.5 mile walk when going to catch the bus Heee heeee. Darn litter bugs tossing cans out the window Haaa haaaa they are all going into my bank account.
Thanks for the info. What do I do with all the crushed ones I got right now?
Maybe check the ring pulls and if ok separate them out, see if I can separate out the tops and bottoms.
I'll let you know how it goes 😀
Quick addendum: Started taking the gold coloured rings off stella cans and noticed that Hatherwood Original bitter has exactly the same ring pulls. Its a Lidl brand-named beer.
Could you just sand the paint off for the same results?
The interior is coated with plastic as well.
While I'm more interested in melting and recasting than selling the metal, WOW!, am I impressed by the details here, and in the comments.
Junkn Jerry here thank u I've learned aheck of a lot about those kind of cans. CAn u tell me how much a pound is worth in US money so I can see what I might make here. Bro J
£1 = $1.37
Jerry good to hear from you. It'll take about 32/33 cans to make a lb in weight. That's with the pull rings taken off. I put the rings on the scales but they didn't register they were so light, but they are the easy part of making money from cans selling on Ebay for art and crafts. I'm going to be doing an experiment soon to see if I can get the ink and food grade lining off the middle section. The tops and bottoms should be classed as clean ally, if my experiment works then the middle section should be classed as rolled ally. I'll then go down the yard and check to see what they class both as and prices. I'll try and get the video done this week or next. I'm having my jab Monday, so I might have a reaction or not. It makes life exciting not knowing...lol. Hope that helps and hopefully, as I said, I'll get that video done. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Jerry i forgot to mention the weights. If we work off 32 cans, top and bottom equal 160g (5g a can) and the middle section 320g (10g a can). Thanks. Matt.
Man very useful , and I don't mind the talking I like to listen, for a small channel thank you it was informative.
Judah thank you. After I received just 5p a kg (2.2lbs) I just had to find out exactly the maximum I could get. I may talk too much or repeat myself but I find with other channels they talk too quickly and you can't take in all the information. I'm doing an experiment today to see if I can get even more money from a can by getting the ink off. The top and bottom are different Aluminium (Aluminum) to the body of the can. I'll then take it down my scrapyard and see what prices they would give me for both types of Aluminium. I don't know whether you've watched the video. I think it's called Why DIY Aluminium Ingots are worthless. I did alot of research into aluminium and was surprised how complicated it all is. Hopefully you'll find it informative. Many thanks for your comment and taking the time to watch the video, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
The ring pulls aka tab's are also used for payment of treatment for children with cancer. For just one ring pull thay get one treatment
Christopher I have been searching high and low for your comment. I have so many notifications and comments each day, it's so easy to lose comments and not be able to reply. My apologies. You have me intrigued about the treatment for children with cancer. I've kept all my ring pulls. If you have the time to let me know more, either a hospital or charity that I can send them to that would be amazing. I have ALOT of ring pulls and if they can pay for ne treatment for a child that to me is priceless. Hope you have the time to let me know more. Stay safe. Matt.
I sighed with you Matt when you said "5 pence per kilo". But that is some clever working out with the top and bottom of the cans. I never thought of that.
Cycle Scrapping thanks for your comment, Ian pointed out my mistake with my maths, but as you will see in the next video I've made sure that has been corrected
Just make art from cans and sell them for more than scrap. A wind catcher made from a few cans can be sold for $10-15us here in the states.
Use cheap electric bench bandsaw to cut cans up if going that route. Saves huge amount of manual processing time.
I've seen windcatchers, lanterns for tea lights, all sorts made out of them. My only worry is the aluminum is so sharp it would cut somebody using it and then all sorts of problems arise. There is a bit of a compensation culture in the UK, unfortunately.
The bandsaw is a brilliant idea. I've got to get my garden cleared before my nephews arrive next week, so I'm in 2 minds whether to keep the cans or trade them in as is.
It's my youngest nephew that is the overly curious, or should I say naughty one. If you say no he still goes ahead and does it.
It'll be good to see them. I haven't seen them for 2 years because of Covid.
I'll definitely try that out.
Many thanks not only for the idea, but watching and taking the time to comment. All are much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
An empty coke can is 20gram meaning 50 cans per kg. In Sweden we get 0.64USD per kg casted to a bar and 0.092USD for each returned empty can. This means a loss of 3.96USD per kg when melting the cans to bars instead of just returning the cans.
Great video. I like your style 👍🏽
Cryptopolis many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
What scissors type of scissors do you use?
Any that are sharp and good quality. That may sound silly but sometimes you come across scissors and they aren't put together tightly and you can't even cut paper as it slides between the blades. I'm hoping to do an experiment soon how to get the ink off the can, so you have three parts, the pull tab, the top and bottom and the main body which should be classed as some form of rolled aluminium. Also I'm going to try another experiment to see if I can make the pull tabs worth more money. Many thanks for your comment and watching, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 I had a look on Google and acetone is supposed to be good for removing the print. Will have to try that.
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Welcome Damon no.100!!! Woo hoo!!! Some channels have giveaways for reaching certain number of subscribers, unfortunately, I don't, as I'm skint. That's why I cut aluminium cans...lol. Thanks for your comment and subscribing, much appreciated.
You can use a shredder to shred the body of the can. There are shredders that can shred credit cards and cds. I’m sure those can handle thin aluminum.
Kelly apologies for the delay in replying. One subscriber had a 150 sheet shredder and he said it shredded the whole can. It's certainly an idea. Thank you for taking the time to comment, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Which means your labor is worth about 45pence per hour?
Seems to me that for the price, it would be wise to make a die that can cut the center part of the can into pull shapes then a jig to bend them into shape to become a ring pull, that would pay 20 fold per can, so instead of making $1330 it would be $20,000 in profit.
In Michigan we pay a 10 cents per can deposit you take them back to get your money back
Robert, it's been fascinating how different countries pay for cans. USA, Canada, Australia all seem to either have a deposit, or subsidy in place. Shame we didn't have it here in the UK. 5p a kg. I almost cried it was such a pitiful amount. Many thanks for your comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
@girlinjax Other subscribers from the U.S. have left various comments. Some states pay so many cents, some states pay more than others, then as you say some states pay nothing. From my point of view sitting here in the UK it's strange how each state is different. Surely it would be better to have some continuity all over the U.S. so there is some financial return on cans in all states. Many thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. It's surprising which countries pay money for cans, whether it be a deposit or government subsidy, but even in countries that pay a subsidy, such as Australia, that is only in certain parts of the country. Many thanks again for your comment. Stay safe. Matt.
@girlinjax Ha..ha..I am down to earth, just a normal person, who talks far too much..lol. It's just some things I find interesting to research about. There's so much you can recycle and repurpose. Maybe one day just stand somewhere, perhaps your local park, your garage or somebody else's garage and look around you. First of all you'll just see what your brain wants you to see. Then when you let your imagination run wild, there will be pieces of wood that you could cut and repurpose for something. Plastic containers you were going to throw out but you'll have an idea for them. Things that you could turn into pieces of art. Thankfully we aren't all the same, so people get different ideas from seeing things and how to reuse things. Try it one day and see what comes into your mind, or if you need to buy something for the house see if there is something you could reuse or make into what you were going to buy. I'd be interested to know if anything happens like to you. Many thanks for you comment. Much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
I don’t know where in the states they buy aluminum cans separated that way
Hi Bob. I've had many comments from the U.S. It's a little confusing at times for me as some states pay a deposit, some don't. Some states pay more than others. The top and bottom aluminum are a different kind of aluminum to the body, I believe the body is some kind of rolled aluminum, the top and bottom would be classed as clean aluminum over here. Maybe phone a couple of yards near you and explain what you are doing and see what prices they will give you, if they accept the aluminum in that way? I'd be interested to hear what prices they give you. At the end of the day, metal is metal and it all is worth something. Many thanks for your comment, much appreciated. If you do happen to follow up with prices, as I said I'd be very interested to hear. Stay safe. Matt.
What is your time worth?
I listened to the whole video with interest. But I do not get the accounts because nowadays here in Germany 1 can is bought in supermarkets .25 cents. How is the profit calculated in this case?
Robert if I understand your question properly. In the UK every household has to put their recycling out in different bags each week. So all I have to do is just walk, or drive around the streets, the night before the bin men pick up the rubbish and collect as many cans as I want. So they literally are costing me nothing. After getting just 5p per Kg, i had to try and work out the maximum profit i could get from a kg. The tops and bottoms are considered clean aluminium but because of the ink on the cans, that is worthless. The easy money are the ring pulls. People buy them to use in crotchet, knitting, jewellery, earrings. So for collecting free cans, everything is more or less profit. One subscriber said to soak them in Acetone but I don't know much about the chemical, or the price. I used powder citric acid on cleaning old vintage rusted tools and wondered if that would work getting the ink off. Another subscriber suggested using a form of electricity to colour the pull rings. I wondered whether to spray them with paint primer, then a colour, but again it comes down to price of the paints. In USA, Canada and Australia they either pay a deposit or are subsidised, so they make alot of money on the cans. It's been fascinating hearing comments from different parts of the world, different prices they get. From a video that i just wanted to see how much money i could make on a kg of cans, it has turned into a fascinating subject. I hope that answers your question. If it doesn't please feel free to contact me again. Many thanks for your comment and taking the time to subscribe both are much appreciated. Take care. Matt.
@@madmattsbucketlist385 Thank you for the quick and detailed response you sent me. Now I must do a trick to get others to send me these cans themselves.
For example, because I am an artist by a profession that uses different techniques and materials, I am thinking of approaching a work of art with one of these cans, like a stained and a painted personalized photo, which I believe I would do them interested. Or, this will be like a present for all family as well.
Someone on youtube" Ink removal from a soda can
ua-cam.com/video/HHWNqxCYMtA/v-deo.html",
removes their paints of soda cans with nail polish remover. By using this method, I can recycle it again as a painting artwork.
Maybe this trick will be the best and of interest for both of us.
@@007HANDMAN Somebody suggested using Acetone, I used to use powdered Citric Acid, food grade (Lemon Juice) (Amazon or Ebay) to get the rust off vintage tools I used to collect. As I said in my previous reply the recycling bags here in my area are easy to take the cans out of. If I just wanted to do that day in day out, I could easily get 5 figures worth of cans each week. Out of interest, how many cans are you looking for to create some form of art?
@@madmattsbucketlist385 I was just thinking as if your idea would be of economic interest.
But I find out that there are some problems which I must count since at the beginning:
-As I said, here in Germany people take the cans to the supermarkets at 0.25 cents per piece, and they do not leave them out as you said. And I thought that doing a work of art would make them interested in exchanging 50 cans with one, making them interested in bringing it to me and not taking them to the supermarket.
But before I do this I have to calculate exactly the costs of all the work and how much is this artwork should be exchanged with 330ml or 500ml cans?
So, in this case, I will use only the flat part = the perimeter of the can.
And the end and the head will be melted. But, maybe if I make a small foundry I believe it is illegal, or harmful to the environment, etc., and I will have more problems which were not counted at the beginning!?
So far I do not find out how much is the price per kg as ingots in the market?
I do not know how much it costs to melt a 1 kg can with electricity or gas?
For these reasons I do not know if it is of interest to enter this business?
Or I continue with the work, I have so far?
@@007HANDMAN I watched the video you sent a link for, i'll do a video using citric acid to take the paint off. When making ingots from the cans, the videos I have watched stay away from the electric forges they take far too long to heat up. A Devil's Forge is far better. I'm in the same position as you I've reached out to fellow You Tubers to see how much propane gas they use and none of them keep a note telling themselves how much they used or how much it cost. The other good thing with a Devils Forge, if you used different crucibles for each metal, Copper, brass metals are also an option. Probably a higher return as well, not just for ingots but any art you may create. I believe Everyday Sollers is an artist using copper and metals and I believe she uses a Devil's Forge. She's a lovely lady based here in the UK. Check out her site, just say I recommended you and I am sure she will be more than happy to help you. I'd be interested to hear what happens. If you have a website or channel just let me know. Hopefully speak soon. Matt.
In my country it is 0.52 £ / kg for mixing and 0.87 £ / kg for cleaning
Razvan, i'd be happy with those prices if they were that in the UK. Many thanks for commenting, much appreciated. Stay safe. Matt.
Thank you for the info on I have been just selling them and plastic bottles never realize you could cut them up and make more money that's like triple the amount.
It's definitely a long term project. I just keep the off cuts in compost bags and forget about them. Good thing as well aluminium doesn't rust. Gradually they'll build up to a hefty amount. It's just patience and thinking every part you put in a bag you are making a deposit in your bank. The other thing I'm looking into are the ring pulls. There are thousands of the silver ones but not many of the coloured. I am currently working on something that i am hoping will solve that problem. Many thanks for your comment.
I save the can's until the price is up then sale the same thing with plastic bottles however I crushed them the last time I had five 55gallon bags full I wish that the economy would pick up.
@@bobsunkees3392 Bob we all feel the same. If you type in Mining.com they give alot of up to date information about the whole state of the metal market. Aluminium is one of the metals that they believe is set to go up in value. Their copper predictions for 22/23 and the next 15 years is incredible, mostly because of electric cars. Check it out and see if you can find the site. Thanks again for your comment. Matt.
@@bobsunkees3392 By cutting up what is the same material you only succeed in rendering the aluminium impossible for the scrapyards to efficiently bale for efficient transport. The bases and tops are only " worth more " than the bodies because they are more condensed, but the scrapyards pay the same weight rate for exactly the same material be it thinner or slightly more condensed.
@@jonglewongle3438 I found out last week about the different types of aluminium. I've done some research after reading your comment, and others. I'm hoping after lockdown to visit an Aluminium Mill, so we understand where our scrap goes from the scrapyard, where it ends up and how it is recycled into a useable form. It would be interesting to visit other metal mills as well. I just think it's a huge blank that is missing in our understanding of the process. If you have got any spare time to reply I'd be very interested to hear your point of view on the subject. Many thanks. Stay safe. Matt.
How much aluminium is actually in a can?
Cool video man, I dunno if the breakdown around here is as lucrative, but you've sure got me intrigued to find out.
After receiving just 5p a kg I had to see if I could make more money. My OCD kicked in, but I was shocked myself. It's more of a long term investment if you were to cut & collect. However with the ring pulls and the different colours that's just easy money for nothing. I'd be interested to see if it turns out to make the same, more or less money in your area. Thanks for your comment.
All I glean from this is that you are getting rinsed at you yard... Aluminum pop cans (UBC) averages $0.50 USD per pound. That's $1.10 USD per kilo AVERAGE. Seen up to $2.20 a kilo listed in price lists. Sorry
At 12:34 in the video you show top and bottom at 0.11 and the ring pulls almost 5 times as much a 0.52 but they when you go to 14:08 you show the top and bottoms at 200.00 and the ring pulls at 195.64 which is less than the the top and bottoms. Why the discrepancy?