@@TryHardEddie It was interesting, it reminded me of the Beep test at school, never stopped and kept getting harder :D Though I will say Chungus vs wraths, like watching paint dry :D
I think it's too simplistic a question to even attempt to answer - mainly because there's myriad subgroups and smaller communities that differ greatly. I'd say for sure there's toxic elements within hobby communities, but because they tend to be the most loud and outspoken groups, especially online, they're often over-represented when people outside the hobby look into it. I do think there's a huge amount of neurodivergent people in the hobby too though (I'm one of them as I have ADHD), and while this is a positive thing in that the community are very welcoming of neurodivergent people, it can mean a lot of folk get a bit.. intense.
Seen some murmurs about toxicity, but not experienced any myself, I think it depends on specifics groups of people. I think it's important the community at large remains open to ensure new players can come in to a safe place to learn and not be intimidated, otherwise we all lose more people to play with
I once played with this guy who made a pod cast about being in some sort of war vehicle, very toxic guy :D Serious thoughts though: always going to get people who are VERY serious about their lists, and winning, get it in all games, especially at the higher competitive places. Gate Keepers: Always going to be there, especially with certain agendas coming in vs lore. Casually I haven't had any bad experiences yet, so tbh, i think you two hit the nail on the head!
@@HolytabooGaming thanks chap! Some great points there, it’s going to be interesting to see how the hobby community responds with huge potential influxes of attention from the Amazon show and other sources. Thanks for your support. - Russ
I think the toxicity has heavily decreased from the old days, but there's still an element of bad gamesmanship that occurs, even amongst some top players. Thankfully that behaviour is on a continuing decline, but isn't completely eradicated yet. Good Sportsmanship and play by intent continues to become the default way to play for the majority, and makes the game far more enjoyable for all.
Not toxic just has multi facets of styles and reasons to be involved, hobbyists, beer n pretzels, competitor, fluff guardian, fluff creator , when they meet theres reactions. Like in any diverse life situation. Mind, due to the hobby being what it is, wonder what % of players are neuro divergent?
@@daveb8665 that’s a really awesome point! There is so much depth to the hobby that I imagine it unites so many people with their own quirks and divergences. - Russ
@inthetank40k i tell you whats toxic orange try hards. Joke!! Also played 10th at tourney 1st games ever, zero feel bads. No gotchyas no rules arguing. Got curb stomped by a 12yr old mind. BUT The spice in 40k has gone I think crusade could be more in depth aimed at mates playing fun games You guys gonna do live stream?
Ha all the puns! ;) I’m not sure I agree with you that all the spice had gone in the game but crusade/narrative rules could be way more wild. Thank you so much for the support! The battle barn will be having streaming games soon but perhaps we should do a hobby/painting hangout at some point! :) - Russ
Do you think the 40K community is Toxic?
Most toxic thing when a seasoned played brings a ressing necron army to one of your first games :D
@@HolytabooGaming your reaction when you first experienced Wraiths reanimating in Awakened Dynasty was worth it 😂
@@HolytabooGaming only beaten by a large block of desolation marines.. ;) - Russ
@@TryHardEddie It was interesting, it reminded me of the Beep test at school, never stopped and kept getting harder :D Though I will say Chungus vs wraths, like watching paint dry :D
I think it's too simplistic a question to even attempt to answer - mainly because there's myriad subgroups and smaller communities that differ greatly. I'd say for sure there's toxic elements within hobby communities, but because they tend to be the most loud and outspoken groups, especially online, they're often over-represented when people outside the hobby look into it.
I do think there's a huge amount of neurodivergent people in the hobby too though (I'm one of them as I have ADHD), and while this is a positive thing in that the community are very welcoming of neurodivergent people, it can mean a lot of folk get a bit.. intense.
Seen some murmurs about toxicity, but not experienced any myself, I think it depends on specifics groups of people. I think it's important the community at large remains open to ensure new players can come in to a safe place to learn and not be intimidated, otherwise we all lose more people to play with
@@ryukenwulforiginal well said! A safe hobby space is absolutely essential to keep the game going. Love that point. - Russ
I once played with this guy who made a pod cast about being in some sort of war vehicle, very toxic guy :D
Serious thoughts though: always going to get people who are VERY serious about their lists, and winning, get it in all games, especially at the higher competitive places. Gate Keepers: Always going to be there, especially with certain agendas coming in vs lore. Casually I haven't had any bad experiences yet, so tbh, i think you two hit the nail on the head!
@@HolytabooGaming thanks chap! Some great points there, it’s going to be interesting to see how the hobby community responds with huge potential influxes of attention from the Amazon show and other sources. Thanks for your support. - Russ
I think the toxicity has heavily decreased from the old days, but there's still an element of bad gamesmanship that occurs, even amongst some top players.
Thankfully that behaviour is on a continuing decline, but isn't completely eradicated yet.
Good Sportsmanship and play by intent continues to become the default way to play for the majority, and makes the game far more enjoyable for all.
@@PearceCondren this has been my experience too. Honestly I don’t see many bad sports surviving to long in hobby spaces and events these days. - Russ
There are some extremely toxic segments, but fortunately there's none of that in my local area.
@@DavidVanCleef that’s lucky! Glad you have a supportive gamer group. - Russ
Play it casually between friends in RL on TTS. Haven't come across toxicity myself
@@Balky12 to be fair neither have I really, mainly just some online loud mouthpieces. I’m glad you have a healthy gaming community. :) - Russ
40k better be toxic, thats why i like it.
@@CharlesRichelieu interesting point.. not sure I would agree. 😂 - Russ
@@inthetank40k Thats ok, im right anyway.
Not toxic just has multi facets of styles and reasons to be involved, hobbyists, beer n pretzels, competitor, fluff guardian, fluff creator , when they meet theres reactions. Like in any diverse life situation. Mind, due to the hobby being what it is, wonder what % of players are neuro divergent?
@@daveb8665 that’s a really awesome point! There is so much depth to the hobby that I imagine it unites so many people with their own quirks and divergences. - Russ
@inthetank40k i tell you whats toxic orange try hards. Joke!!
Also played 10th at tourney 1st games ever, zero feel bads. No gotchyas no rules arguing. Got curb stomped by a 12yr old mind.
BUT
The spice in 40k has gone
I think crusade could be more in depth aimed at mates playing fun games
You guys gonna do live stream?
Ha all the puns! ;)
I’m not sure I agree with you that all the spice had gone in the game but crusade/narrative rules could be way more wild.
Thank you so much for the support! The battle barn will be having streaming games soon but perhaps we should do a hobby/painting hangout at some point! :) - Russ
Yes. My god. I have been in discords that resembled nothing so much as KKK rallies.
@@manda60 wow that’s unfortunate, there are some horror stories out there. - Russ
Competitive, yes! Casual, not at all.
That’s interesting! I’ve had both in the past but equally I met one of my best friends at a tournament. - Russ