I use a lot of Wix filters. Noticed some of the red anti drain back material was protruding into the thread part of a filter I was getting ready to install on my side by side. Contacted Wix about it. There quality representative contacted me and wanted to know if he could come by and get the filter from me. He was in South Carolina I was in North Carolina. I asked him, " you are going to drive all the way here for 1 oil filter"? He said yes, that is my job! Told him sure, next day around lunch he was at my house! Hand delivered a brand new filter and thanked me for contacting them. Said he would have it looked into as to how this occurred. I was truly impressed!
If you are looking at a Wix filter make sure you check it before putting it on the car. The past 5 of them I have bought have been mann hummell variants and every single one of them has had closed louvers or louvers that are barely open more than a hairs width. This means they will bypass 100% of the time and never actually filter oil.
That sucks. Why can't we just get well made filters. Seems like everything is going to crap. I shouldn't have to do QC on an oil filter. Thanks for the heads up.
@@LuckyVagabond I agree. I have moved to using stp gold box filters and microgard select where stp does not make the correct application. Stp has 99% at 20 micron filtration ratings and microgard is at 99% at 25. Both are good respectable numbers but the stp is slightly better. Also I am not a stranger to fram tough guards, mobile 1, or fram ultra filters.
@miasmicmonky13 all great options, but so much more expensive. You should be able to buy a decent quality filter for $7 or less. I'm only doing 5K oil change intervals.
Yeah since Wix got bought out Ive been checking my filters over, I don't think Ive yet had the misfortune of getting a defective Mann Hummel but I hope to not have to. For my 12 valve cummins and other parts of my fleet Ive been thinking about CAT filters, fleetguard (basically oem cummins filters), or maybe Baldwin which is said to be the same as some CAT filters.
I put one wix xp for my honda. It look like louvers where closed I still put it on car. Car felt like it was struggling. Motor felt sluggish swap out real. Quick with a cheap stp extended filter i had. Car felt like its pep came back
thanks for sharing. I had been using Bosch filters on my 2020 Honda Ridgeline until it got wrecked. I had the box top in the glove box on my "new to me" 2019 Honda Passport for reference, I usually run OEM Honda filters or WIX. 2 years ago, I had a NAPA Platinum filter that the media end cap was "bent" (the paper was slightly crushed from the leaf spring)!
Sorry to hear about your Ridgeline. I always wanted one of those. My wife calls them "city trucks", lol. I'll have to give the OEM Honda filter another try. Thanks!
@@LuckyVagabond I INDIA we use Sofima, Mahle, Mahle Purolator, or Hyundai genuine oil filters as HONDA Oil filters alternative I have 2009 HONDA CITY I-VTEC HONDA Cars INDIA don't do count sell of spair parts it's very difficult to source genuine spair parts
What oil do you use in your pilot and what are your thoughts on oil weight? I know it says 5w20 in manual, but I've read that in other countries they list 5w30. I heard honda changed it to slightly increase fuel economy.
Yes, that's right. In other countries it's 5w30, but you can also use 10w30. Heck, you could also use 0w20 if on hand. I'm currently using Mobil 1 0w40 that I picked up on clearance from Walmart for $10 per 12 quart box.
@@LuckyVagabondGotcha, thanks. I will probably stick to 5w30 as I think it will lubricate better than 5w20. Feel like alot of these newer cars are being pushed to use thinner oils at the cost of longevity from the engine.
Bosch build quality has really dropped since moving production to Mexico. They didn't even have properly punched out louvres! Unfortunately I've started noticing more issues with Wix filters as well. A lot of aftermarket filters have gone to sh*t. You might have to stay with OEM and hope their quality control is better
@@LuckyVagabond I've heard that the Fram made Honda filter is built to different specs than the Fram aftermarket filter, but no source or proof unfortunately.
The quality of that Wix filter could change at any moment since Mann & Hummel owns both Wix & Purolator. Wix has downgraded some of their filters and their overall quality has definitely slipped. Just be cautious of every filter you purchase no matter the name. I now inspect every filter with a flashlight & 200+ glasses to look for defects. A dent, closed louvers, metal shavings, dirt, excess glue, etc. Any of that gets rejected. Plus I give it a shake to see if anything is rattling.
@@remarkable224 100%. Have to inspect them all with 125+ to 200+ reading glasses & a flashlight before purchase if you can. Be certain to do so before installation no matter the brand.
And one more filter "comparison" by you without cutting open the filters. Exterior paint or looking into the opening tells very little. Spend $20 on a filter cutter.
I got a Bosch for my wife's CX-5, slightly different model, and it leaked out all over the place despite being tight as it should be. Had to crank it all the way down with a wrench to get it to stop leaking oil out all over the bottom of the engine under driving conditions. Sad it's a once good brand now garbage. I won't buy one again. Will buy a Purolator or Wix next time.
Interesting. I had the same experience with the first Wix filter I tried, but I couldn't get that one to stop leaking. Makes you wonder if maybe the bypass valve wasn't working and there was too much pressure for the gasket to hold. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Don't expect top of the line quality from those brands either. Mann & Hummel purchased both of them & the quality control has definitely slipped. No matter what brand or how high up the product chain it is INSPECT INSPECT INSPECT!
Maybe if it's made in Germany but in the US I see them as part of the problem of declining quality in US made filters. Purolator & Wix have both suffered in quality control since being purchased by Mann & Hummel.
As promised, here's the link to the WIX filter on Amazon: amzn.to/3zDJGQh
That second Bosch filter looks like a counterfeit. Might be worth checking the batch code.
Good call. How do I do that?
Meh, Production was moved to Mexico from US and many anecdotes show quality now has gone to crap.
I use a lot of Wix filters. Noticed some of the red anti drain back material was protruding into the thread part of a filter I was getting ready to install on my side by side. Contacted Wix about it. There quality representative contacted me and wanted to know if he could come by and get the filter from me. He was in South Carolina I was in North Carolina. I asked him, " you are going to drive all the way here for 1 oil filter"? He said yes, that is my job! Told him sure, next day around lunch he was at my house! Hand delivered a brand new filter and thanked me for contacting them. Said he would have it looked into as to how this occurred. I was truly impressed!
Wow! That's amazing. I should have contacted them when the first Wix filter I used leaked at the gasket.
If you are looking at a Wix filter make sure you check it before putting it on the car. The past 5 of them I have bought have been mann hummell variants and every single one of them has had closed louvers or louvers that are barely open more than a hairs width. This means they will bypass 100% of the time and never actually filter oil.
That sucks. Why can't we just get well made filters. Seems like everything is going to crap. I shouldn't have to do QC on an oil filter. Thanks for the heads up.
@@LuckyVagabond I agree. I have moved to using stp gold box filters and microgard select where stp does not make the correct application. Stp has 99% at 20 micron filtration ratings and microgard is at 99% at 25. Both are good respectable numbers but the stp is slightly better. Also I am not a stranger to fram tough guards, mobile 1, or fram ultra filters.
@miasmicmonky13 all great options, but so much more expensive. You should be able to buy a decent quality filter for $7 or less. I'm only doing 5K oil change intervals.
Yeah since Wix got bought out Ive been checking my filters over, I don't think Ive yet had the misfortune of getting a defective Mann Hummel but I hope to not have to. For my 12 valve cummins and other parts of my fleet Ive been thinking about CAT filters, fleetguard (basically oem cummins filters), or maybe Baldwin which is said to be the same as some CAT filters.
I put one wix xp for my honda. It look like louvers where closed I still put it on car. Car felt like it was struggling. Motor felt sluggish swap out real. Quick with a cheap stp extended filter i had. Car felt like its pep came back
thanks for sharing. I had been using Bosch filters on my 2020 Honda Ridgeline until it got wrecked. I had the box top in the glove box on my "new to me" 2019 Honda Passport for reference, I usually run OEM Honda filters or WIX. 2 years ago, I had a NAPA Platinum filter that the media end cap was "bent" (the paper was slightly crushed from the leaf spring)!
Sorry to hear about your Ridgeline. I always wanted one of those. My wife calls them "city trucks", lol. I'll have to give the OEM Honda filter another try. Thanks!
The Mexico made Bosch is authentic. It's just cost cutting pure and simple
Thanks for confirming!
You are correct!
You can also use Sofima Oil Filters
Never heard of them. Who sells them?
@@LuckyVagabond
I INDIA we use Sofima, Mahle, Mahle Purolator, or Hyundai genuine oil filters as HONDA Oil filters alternative
I have 2009 HONDA CITY I-VTEC
HONDA Cars INDIA don't do count sell of spair parts it's very difficult to source genuine spair parts
@rutwikkarekar4666 nice! Thanks for the info mate!
What oil do you use in your pilot and what are your thoughts on oil weight? I know it says 5w20 in manual, but I've read that in other countries they list 5w30. I heard honda changed it to slightly increase fuel economy.
Yes, that's right. In other countries it's 5w30, but you can also use 10w30. Heck, you could also use 0w20 if on hand. I'm currently using Mobil 1 0w40 that I picked up on clearance from Walmart for $10 per 12 quart box.
@@LuckyVagabondGotcha, thanks. I will probably stick to 5w30 as I think it will lubricate better than 5w20. Feel like alot of these newer cars are being pushed to use thinner oils at the cost of longevity from the engine.
The WIX XP are even better, and only a couple dollars more than their standard one you mentioned.
I'll give it a try. Thanks man!
M&H recently cheapened the media on the XP, No longer backed synthetic media.
Bosch build quality has really dropped since moving production to Mexico. They didn't even have properly punched out louvres! Unfortunately I've started noticing more issues with Wix filters as well. A lot of aftermarket filters have gone to sh*t. You might have to stay with OEM and hope their quality control is better
Ugh, this sucks. The OEM Honda filter is not great. Reboxed Fram cardboard junk.
@@LuckyVagabond I've heard that the Fram made Honda filter is built to different specs than the Fram aftermarket filter, but no source or proof unfortunately.
Motorcraft also went to sh*t. That's why I switched to Microgard Select.
@dong_chim maybe I'll buy one of those filter cutters to start cutting them open and see for sure what I'm getting. Thanks for info!
@@remarkable224 that's sad. I always liked the Motorcraft filters when Walmart carried them.
Wix definitely looks good after all these years unlike the updated Bosch.
Yes, so disappointed in Bosch.
I've yet to find any BOTCH product that is worth a crap and I'm not just talking automotive products.
We have a Bosch dishwasher that we love.
Thankyou for your expise!
Yes!
The quality of that Wix filter could change at any moment since Mann & Hummel owns both Wix & Purolator. Wix has downgraded some of their filters and their overall quality has definitely slipped. Just be cautious of every filter you purchase no matter the name.
I now inspect every filter with a flashlight & 200+ glasses to look for defects. A dent, closed louvers, metal shavings, dirt, excess glue, etc. Any of that gets rejected. Plus I give it a shake to see if anything is rattling.
Great advice my man. Thank you!
I use a Purolator boss on my 05 civic
Great filter. How much are you buying them for?
@@LuckyVagabondI just got 3 for 18$ CAD a piece so 13.25$ American
@timbur2711 wow! That's expensive. I paid $4.87 for the Wix filters. I'm cheap though.
@@LuckyVagabondya man they are no joke price wise lmao
@timbur2711 probably worth it though...
Wix is now made in Mexico. I just sent my entire Wix order back to Amazon because of closed louvers. Double check before you install.
"Some' Wix oil filters, not all applications. Many still made in the US, same as topic.
We live in times of outsourcing and offshoring and branding and rebranding. So you don’t know who really makes anything anymore. 😮
That Mexican filter looks like it could be counterfeit. Did you buy it on Amazon?
No, bought a batch of 5 from RockAuto and they are all made in Mexico. I would love for someone else to confirm though that these are authentic.
Go check out the new K+n filters, made in Mexico. Complete junk.
@@JodieMix no way, K&N is supposed to be the pinnacle of quality. Ugh
@@JodieMix It seems like everything is junk these days. Since Purolater and Wix got bought out by Mann + Hummel, they're junk now, too.
@@remarkable224 100%. Have to inspect them all with 125+ to 200+ reading glasses & a flashlight before purchase if you can. Be certain to do so before installation no matter the brand.
And one more filter "comparison" by you without cutting open the filters. Exterior paint or looking into the opening tells very little. Spend $20 on a filter cutter.
You can tell a lot from the exterior, especially on such a poorly made filter.
How well do the oem honda filters fair out with these ones?
Oem ones are made by fram and have paper endcaps
Unfortunately, the OEM filter is lower quality compared to the WIX filter.
Mobil 1 have been pretty good for me
I'm sure, but man they are expensive.
I got a Bosch for my wife's CX-5, slightly different model, and it leaked out all over the place despite being tight as it should be. Had to crank it all the way down with a wrench to get it to stop leaking oil out all over the bottom of the engine under driving conditions. Sad it's a once good brand now garbage. I won't buy one again. Will buy a Purolator or Wix next time.
Interesting. I had the same experience with the first Wix filter I tried, but I couldn't get that one to stop leaking. Makes you wonder if maybe the bypass valve wasn't working and there was too much pressure for the gasket to hold. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Don't expect top of the line quality from those brands either. Mann & Hummel purchased both of them & the quality control has definitely slipped. No matter what brand or how high up the product chain it is INSPECT INSPECT INSPECT!
@@peskypeet ugh, dude, that sucks. Someone has to make a quality filter for less than $10. I'm going to check out the Champ Luberfiner filters.
According to Utube Brand Ranks Purolator Boss is their #1 oil filter.
Purolator makes great filters, but man are they expensive.
@ I can get the boss at Menards for $11.99. I don’t think that is bad
@robshaw2990 I try to spend $6 or less.
@ what is your OCI?
@robshaw2990 5,000 miles
I just threw away a WIX because the gasket leaked
Holy crap! I had the same thing happen with the first one I used on the Odyssey. Thought maybe I over tightened it.
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Made in Germany?
Maybe if it's made in Germany but in the US I see them as part of the problem of declining quality in US made filters. Purolator & Wix have both suffered in quality control since being purchased by Mann & Hummel.
You should be using the wix XP or the Purolator boss. Honestly probably the Purolator boss
How much do those cost? I am price sensitive.