Imagine telling a professional that spent A MONTH doing research he shouldn't use *that* material, he should use *this* material because a random someone in the internet thought they knew best. Julian you are so patient we don't deserve you
Julian: I was conflicted about removing wood from the panel, but I did extensive research and consulted other conservators and professionals. We all agreed this was the best solution for this particular painting. Armchair Conservators: JuLiAn, ReMoViNg WoOd FrOm ThE pAiNtInG wAs So IrReSpOnSiBlE!!!
I'd be curious to know the actual numerical ratio of commenters who say that kind of thing. I bet it's pretty low.. humans are wired to perceive negative responses in an exaggerated way.
Is it weird that I’m actually more excited that the students would literally be able to see the first example of it than I am for the fact that he’d have a technique named after him?
When Julian calls you for the 8th time in the row: "Is it really okay to trim down the painting irreversibly?" "Goddammit Julian, it's 3 AM. Yes, trim the painting. There's no other way."
I can’t believe that there were people that where questioning his “scrape the wood” decision. I could feel his pain when explaining how much research and opinions he gathered so he could make this extremely difficult choice.
Actually .... I go even further. These paintings are also historical items. I think all the old tacks (or staples), tattered strips of canvas he cuts off, wood shavings, the old fill-in material, everything, should be saved. Box it up and give it all to the owner. I watched a fabric conservation video once and a key point was that stitching done to repair part of the fabric centuries earlier -- I'm losing control of this sentence -- the stitching in that style was done in only one part of the Middle East during a specific time period. That became an important factor in the provenance.
@@veralenora7368 Interesting point, though this is something that really comes down to the philosophy of the owner, conservator, and archivist. Having spoken and worked with these kinds of valuable research objects, often everything is saved, but this can often get overwhelming and even cluttering. Some people who store these artifacts choose to save such things: every little thing. Others pick and choose which aspects are saved depending on their philosophy, and though at first I questioned this too, when I began to see the sheer volume that the "save everything" philosophy could accrue, to the point where it was no longer feasible monetarily and stopped the acquisition of new valuable historical artifacts, I began to understand why difficult decisions to discard certain provenance was made. In other words, if the owner has only a single painting and needs to store only the things connected to that painting, this may not seem like such a momentous undertaking. But take a museum or university or large collection for instance, in which many new collections that are very valuable are often constantly accruing, and things can very quickly get overwhelming when they aren't constantly sorted and, occupationally, certain things discarded when they can no longer afford to be stored. I'm not an expert on this, I just get my information from working with archivists doing research at a large research university that is quite well known for its collections. I've seen the immense areas of storage, and I haven't seen the even more immense hidden and locked buildings and buildings full of storage that is half-way sorted and archived. And even with all of this storage, they still run out of the resources necessary and have to sort through and discard certain items of provenance in order to take in significant and important collections. Things that are often similar to the extra wood and nails that could have been saved in this case.
Julien: "You think I'd wear my old and dirty apron? Come on... you guys deserve better :)" Me, holding back tears: yeah.... I do deserve better.... thanks, Julien 💕
when he said 'its my bad for missing something , so i'd never go back and charge extra for a mistake on my end' i had flashbacks to every renovation show on HGTV that hinged on charging couples extra for unexpected home fixes.
@@ormurgujonsson8463 That is entirely different, that means you have been neglecting service and they are telling you shit is broken and you need to get it fixed.
10:23 ...It's just not fair to go back to my client and say well I missed something in the beginning and now you owe me more money... If only my plumber and car mechanic works that way lol
Yeah! The mechanic one is horrible, my car went in for what was supposed to be a routine fix of a bolt or something and I get a call to say there was other problems that "had" to be fixed before he fixed the main issue and before I could even say well actually I dont want to, he replied oh, well it is already done and the cost is (way higher than originally said) i was spitting feathers all the way to his office lol
or chip and joanna gaines during fixer upper every time they found something unpleasant and then had to tell their clients that they will have to pay an additional $4000 for a new special made iron fence
And that is why plumbers and mechanics have such bad connotations on them. But also, they are necessary. Art conservation, is objectively a luxury. And anything art is value by reputation.
About removing wood at the back of the painting: off course it was not reversible. Thing is, it was not you who destroyed the wood in the first place. You just did your best to save what was left.
Yes, its was realy a question of; do you loose this part of the structure which has already been damaged or do you loose the whole painting...No choice for me, he's just making good the damage
Every other business: Oops! We missed this billable item, so forget our initial quote and pay up! Julian: Missed this billable item. That's on me, we're good. Love his business integrity!
The ppl who disliked the videos are either previous conservators of the painting, ppl who use STAPLES (oh the horror!!!) or ppl who don’t use reversible techniques and products
So I’m washing dishes the other day and I start using my best Baumgartner voice: “Now I’m using a soft sponge here as I don’t want to scrub too hard and remove the protective coating...”
Sometimes I think people just don't really listen to what he is saying. He explained very carefully about the eye chip and his feelings about removing parts of the wood panel. Pay attention people!
I think sometimes people watch videos just trying to find something to fuss about or trying to make a point that will make them look smarter than the person making the video.
NRMblessed this comment made me realize why people suggesting this be a netflix series never sat right with me, and it’s because OBVIOUSLY Baumgartner Restoration should be a PBS show :0 can’t believe it never occurred to me before
When I started watching these art restorations, Julian seemed like a really serious person without a "youtuber" personality, by which I mean there wasn't a lot of interaction with the audience during the videos and that gave them a respectful and professional vibe. Do not get me wrong, they were incredible nontheless, but I love how much that has been changing over time because, even though the work is still as refined and professional, it's also incredibly interesting to get a glimpse of Julian's personality, humor and warmth. You're an amazing professional, Julian, and now more than ever I love enjoying your beautifully put-together videos! Thank you for this one especially, and if I may add, maybe if the client doesn't feel comfortable showing themselves to your audience, you could update us on their comments and emotions, because I'm sure it's thrilling to see the human aspect of your conservations when they go to the owners (hope we get to know about that AND the frame). Also, great apron!
Very well said, Cata Orostica!! I feel the same way!! Just when I think I cannot love this channel any more Julian makes this video and I fall in love (with the channel) all over again!! This man has something which is all too lacking in this world, integrity and ethical practice!
Yes!! I've been thinking the same for the past few projects. His personality is coming through and it feels like the community is growing. This video definitely cemented that thanks to the back and forth of our questions getting answers instead of just waiting for them to get answered at some point in a relevant video. It feels good man
@ I don't think he wants to move the restoration project out of the building. That sounds a bit risky. Buying the equipment if needed might be an investment. It can open up for more possibilities within woodwork (frames)
This is the only channel where I'll read the comments. No trolls, no meanness - just fun and joy. This IS for y'all, cuz you are all the best of humanity!
I find that crafting/craftsmanship or (more or less) scientific channels here on UA-cam usually has a kind and curious community. If you skim through the comment sections on videos by Cody’sLab, Hainbach, MyMechanics or Brady Haran’s many channels (Periodic table of videos, Numberphile etc) for example, you’ll find this exact same thing, and I love it!
That HVAC question caught me by surprise, I'm from europe and don't know a single person with a HVAC system at home. You only see that on new buildings here.
The southern half the US definitely has HVAC in most homes built since the 70s, and most public buildings. It's too hot and humid to do anything else. July and August see us more often in the upper 90s and low 100s than anything else. And the heat doesn't dissipate at night, either, it's too humid for that.
Me to! I live in the UK and has go search what the heck it was! Lol. We get hot summers sometimes but it is hot to us but I doubt it feels hot to someone in the States, I think the hottest days are at the 30ish degrees Celsius (no idea how hot Fahrenheit) but no house that I've lived or been in has air conditioning or what that other one was called, we have a fan lol
I'd take an audio only client reaction with clips of the conservation running in the background, or even a client commentary over and about the conservation, just anything to know that they appreciate all the hard work that went into conserving their artwork. I'd even enjoy hearing Julian reading a few paragraphs from the client!
At the end of the day though, Julian is running a business and needs to keep his clients happy and comfortable coming back to him, or referring others to him. If they’re not comfortable being on camera, they’re not comfortable, and shouldn’t risk his rapport with clients by trying to coerce them to film or record any sort of reaction. Keep in mind, a lot of his clients probably have a fair amount of wealth if they’re able to buy and have a painting restored. That may not be something they’re okay with flaunting to the internet.
IMO, it could be nice if the client tells the history of a painting in voiceover. But you'd be surprised how difficult it is to get good audio quality and a good narration. It takes work and practice to look good on camera and sound good in the microphone.
Honestly, I really feel like we are the most chaotic yet devoted YT fandom, I swear. And he spoils us so much. Keep it up, Enabler...er, I mean Julian.
“I hope they send the new Dutch ripple frame to me so I can put the painting in it myself and show you guys the finished result” okay 1 that’s so sweet of you and 2 that implies a possible part 7 oh my gosh, thank you so much Julian for taking us through the process and remaining so patient throughout all of your work
most conservators dislike him because he is heavy handed and reckless to them. He is very much a commercial restorer, he has no formal training and shouldn’t be regarded as a top tier conservator
If you format the timestamps like this they should show up on the timebar: 0:00 Introduction 01:06 Who is the artist and what's the title? 02:00 Is the painting really going into a home without HVAC? 2:56 Did your client pay for the clamp table? 4:34 The painting doesn't look perfect, what gives? 5:46 Did you test the "sandwich" assembly? 6:26 What about reports and notes about your work? 6:59 How much did this cost? 8:23 Will we get a client reaction video? 8:47 What about a frame? 10:33 How long did this project take? 11:37 Why fiberglass and not carbon fiber? 12:20 What about 3D scanning, 3D printing and CNC? 13:25 What about removing the wood, that's not reversible? 14:46 The $64,000 question
A general question: Are there artists or value of a painting that you would not feel comfortable conserving? For example, if someone came in with a Raphael worth $40 million, would you take on the project?
He has said before that he would never work on the Mona Lisa if offered (someone asked that specific question on one of his live feeds) because it is basically the most recognized and loved painting in the world and no matter what he did there would probably be a lot of people who would think he ruined it. (Also because DaVinci used painting techniques that were innovative and not well understood and any solvents might actually take the original paint off). I would love to know how he feels about doing conservation work on other old masters like you are talking about!
@@auntkaz422 DaVinci was notorious for that! The Last Super started cracking and peeling in just a few years after completion. And that's not even dealing with it having been in a dining hall that's been remodeled several times (with no HVAC!) At this point if some one told me all of the original was gone and it was nothing but retouching left, I'd completely believe them. As Julian pointed out in part 5, retouching with oils as old as 150/200 years ago is more than enough to have made it meld into the original itself....
@@auntkaz422 Wasn't the Mona Lisa also damaged by acid? I can totally understand that literally NO conservator really wants to clean or restore this painting although its so dirty that her eyebrows are gone now and her veil almost invisible...
@@VincentoValentine it is not worth the bother to squeeze through the tourists only to get a glimpse of a ruined painting, at a distance and behind glass. Go to the Rembrandt room; you might have it all to yourself. Or hunt down the Hals and VerMeers.
I recall him conserving a sculpture somewhat recently that needed a small wooden part remade, and he did that, so you'll have to go BIG and maybe even plastic (so the 3D print would match)
I really, really enjoyed thiy series. First of all it felt more 'hands on'. I especially liked the segments where you talked to us, painting in front of you, instead of doing a voiceover. I cannot quite put my finger on why exactly I feel that way, but it felt like we where in the studio, with you, learning even more about your thoughts and approaches on conservation. All in all I really enjoy all of your videos but this series really stood out to me. Thank you so much for taking us on that journey and letting us in even more into this amazing world I really didn't know existed, 'till UA-cam showed me one of your videos.
Yeah, my path to this channel went: painting techniques for wargaming miniatures > action figure customization > action figure restoration > toy car restoration > old tool restoration > HERE.
Honestly, Julian repeated so often that he didn't want to remove anything from the back of the painting in several parts of the series that I was getting slightly irritated by it. Yes, we get it. You have no other choice, it's the only option. You asked others, you did your research... It must be done. We get it! Apparently there are still people who a) don't listen or b) don't care or c) don't care to listen... He told us! Several times. That's one of the reasons the series was so long and amazing! He told us all the hows and whys!
I don’t comment, like ever, but I have loved this series specifically, but the channel as a whole. I have loved how you work through problems and explain your process. It’s utterly fascinating, but also informing. To cap it off, to see someone guided by professionalism and ethics, even when it makes the task more difficult is amazing to see. This has become one of my favorite channels on UA-cam, and I can’t wait for the next project! Thanks for bringing us along!
I could see him in a episode of some crime drama. "sir where were you on the day in question?" Julian- scraping, scraping scraping "I was removing the layer grime before I could remove this varnish"
I've had the same thoughts. I work at a frame shop, and no option to do repairs which is really heartbreaking when I see customers come in with minor damage and I have to say 'sorry no can do, get new frame'. Research what it takes to be one, contact any and every conservator you can find in a reasonable distance and chat with them. Visit their workplace if possible to see the daily life. That's what I'm doing
@@hannahnott-concepttoart7141 That's a great idea actually, thanks! I did a bit of research on college and things like that, found some interesting options abroad (here in Brazil there's just a few). I'll ask my art teacher about this, he might be able to help me out a bit and introduce me to some people after quarantine is over Good luck to us!
"This video is brought to you by ... you, the viewer" Me, a lurker who never posts anything : Hell yeah, I deserved that pat on the back, huehuehue. (I love your videos, by the way. Keep up the great work. ^^)
Outstanding. I knew you were an artist but designing and building that table was a first rate engineering job. Showing all the background work required to restore such a damaged piece made this your best project yet. Masterful, sir.
I didn't know I needed an art restoration channel in my life when I stumbled across it a year ago... but dang... I really did. I love you Julian. Your videos are amazing. But I think I'm most in love with your voice... keep up the good work. ❤
Man, I’ve got to say, I really admire your sense of ethics. Bit of a strange compliment, I know, but what a better world it would be if more people operated with your honesty, integrity, and professionalism. Your clients are lucky people!
I am in awe of you work. My mother was a restorer of European & Chinese porcelain. It has been a trip down memory lane to watch you at work, especially the touch-ups. I could watch you for hours, and just have done that actually. I believe that you are a second generation restorer/conservator, you do great honour to your late father. You do a great job in educating people on the nature of, and distinctions between conservation and (over) restoration. Thank you for sharing your work with all 1.5 Million of us!
Nice that you answered all the questions below without any annoyance even when that one question was kinda catty. You really are a man of professional standards! Keep that up, its what keeps me coming back for more! Also your videos help me sleep when depression dictates I must be awake and cleaning.
I am sure this comment will be lost among the 1.3ish million subscribers but -- I want to tell you how truly wonderful, exacting, professional, creative, ingenious, responsible and fun you are as a fine art conservator. A complete pleasure to watch and learn from... And man, what a cool apron. May you and yours (and all your subscribers) be blessed and be well and be happy.
The dislikes are from staple and polyurethane enthusiasts.
😂😂
Or, perhaps from the previous conservator.
Probably because there was no Belgian Linen...
People who use rabbit skin glue and inferior linen
@@NAFUSO1 IKR? Like, I just love how Julian can be so politely savage when it comes to dissing the inferior work of past conservators!
Imagine telling a professional that spent A MONTH doing research he shouldn't use *that* material, he should use *this* material because a random someone in the internet thought they knew best.
Julian you are so patient we don't deserve you
Hahah right?? The audacity!
Julian: I was conflicted about removing wood from the panel, but I did extensive research and consulted other conservators and professionals. We all agreed this was the best solution for this particular painting.
Armchair Conservators: JuLiAn, ReMoViNg WoOd FrOm ThE pAiNtInG wAs So IrReSpOnSiBlE!!!
I'd be curious to know the actual numerical ratio of commenters who say that kind of thing. I bet it's pretty low.. humans are wired to perceive negative responses in an exaggerated way.
Same, maybe some of the comments where trying to express confusion or curiosity about the choice.
@@MishaShivers I've seen big reddit posts dedicated to bash his technique, didn't know there were so many conservators around lol
this unexpected yet delightful video from julian is like finding an extra chicken nugget at the bottom of the bag
So this means we are in agteement that Julian is a snacc
dang !!!! best analogy ever !
Or an extra crisp in the bed at 3am
My heart leapt when I saw a blue dot on his circle!
This is now my favourite channel. It was up there....but its now reached the pinnacle for me .
"Well, whenever i build a new toy- tool"
Don't be shy Julian, say it like it is
3:03
3:25
I love that moments too
the clampinator 1000
Julian: This video was brought to you by....
Me: Yeah squarespace I know alread-
Julian: You
Me: *shocked pikachu face*
I was thinking "How is he going to segue into a Squarespace ad... WHAT?"
Ahhhh, sameeee 😂
Yeah, and last time it was ExpressVPN, which also shocked me 😂😂
Julien waking up in a cold sweat in 10 years: “IRREVERSIBLE TECHNIQUE”
SCRAPING
POLYURETHANE
CORNERS OF A CANVAS THAT WEREN'T TIDY EVEN THOUGH MANY OF CLIENTS NEVER EVER SEE THIS
@@AntroyYearha I love his attention to non-visible details!
"STAPLES"
Julian: With your impeccable taste and questions
Me at 3am: aw shucks *blushes*
I DIDN'T KNOW WE ALL LIVED THE SAME LIFE
Yeah I feel ignored now!
Hahahahaha
It's literally 3 am right now 😂😂
Julian: "Thanks for making it through part 5 of 5! There's nothing after this."
Julian: *Releases 6th video*
Everyone: I feel lied to and I love it
Love the way you lie🎵
And now there's a part 7!
ohh....there's more....part 7....
“You guys deserve better” we really don’t but goddamn we love you julian
Couldn't have said it better
it's been said before but: this is the sweetest man with THE most chaotic fanbase
Oh my god THIS
Yessssssd
Ya, but we're Chaotic Good :D
Yep we're a special bunch of crazy 😁
This fan base is a mood. ☺
Thirty years from now: “This painting is the first known example of the ‘Baumgartner technique’ for restoration of wood based paintings.”
I have happy goosebumps. 🤗
Is it weird that I’m actually more excited that the students would literally be able to see the first example of it than I am for the fact that he’d have a technique named after him?
That will still be said 300 years from now, followed by "... and noone has yet been able to improve on it".
That would be pretty cool. I'm waiting for the day when people are caught faking a Baumgartner restoration. Haha.
julien: A new "toy"
That fake slip was amazing, and his smile. That damn smile.
He sure loves his table and knows how to handle the 50 shades of a painting.
@@Diss0lvant omg lol I'm dying
@@Diss0lvant facts
@@Diss0lvant and that's where it started. That smile. That damn smile.
@@Diss0lvant hahahaha so true tricky smile
When Julian gives us part 6/5 and we all go ballistic
Nice name :)
Yep because we see , we like and well there are so many who really like ( love ) these video and him too ( totally fan-girling) 😊
And now there's part 7.
I’d like to have a little chat with whoever called Julian “Mr. Everything Is Reversible”
I get the feeling they wear socks with sandals.
@@ktfitz4604 hahahahaha!
ok, first I hold them and you talk, then you hold them and I talk, then we bury what is left together, how's that?
@@electromagneticinterferenc4802 yeah lets bury the hatchet
When Julian calls you for the 8th time in the row:
"Is it really okay to trim down the painting irreversibly?"
"Goddammit Julian, it's 3 AM. Yes, trim the painting. There's no other way."
Ikr
And then come those people to mock him for that decision. (I just found it satisfying to see him trim it 😬)
Commenters: complain and nitpick every damn decision made by a professional
Julian: aww you guys noticed my apron :B
You look for the beauty in the world!
And this time, it was his apron.
The apron is important! I even had to tell my girlfriend about it. He looks good
He did the noose shadow incorrect. He is not perfect.
the apron gives off bob ross vibes!!
Julian: ”I don’t have a scanner, 3D printer or CNC...”
Me: :(
Julian: ”...yet”
Me: :)
I'm waiting for the video where he builds a 3-D printer using nothing but fiberglass, tacks, and archival fully reversible adhesive
But a man needs new toys every so often and he definitely left the door open for all of those toys, er, tools.
Be honest with me Julian, was this whole video just an excuse to show off your fancy new apron?
I'm not mad at it
We love to see it!
Probably was 😏
I almost cried bc his response warmed my heart. I have no idea why, it just played with my heartstrings.
😁
I can’t believe that there were people that where questioning his “scrape the wood” decision. I could feel his pain when explaining how much research and opinions he gathered so he could make this extremely difficult choice.
Actually .... I go even further. These paintings are also historical items. I think all the old tacks (or staples), tattered strips of canvas he cuts off, wood shavings, the old fill-in material, everything, should be saved. Box it up and give it all to the owner.
I watched a fabric conservation video once and a key point was that stitching done to repair part of the fabric centuries earlier -- I'm losing control of this sentence -- the stitching in that style was done in only one part of the Middle East during a specific time period. That became an important factor in the provenance.
He should have just filled the back with polyurethane to create the perfect conservation nightmare.
@@veralenora7368 Interesting point, though this is something that really comes down to the philosophy of the owner, conservator, and archivist. Having spoken and worked with these kinds of valuable research objects, often everything is saved, but this can often get overwhelming and even cluttering. Some people who store these artifacts choose to save such things: every little thing. Others pick and choose which aspects are saved depending on their philosophy, and though at first I questioned this too, when I began to see the sheer volume that the "save everything" philosophy could accrue, to the point where it was no longer feasible monetarily and stopped the acquisition of new valuable historical artifacts, I began to understand why difficult decisions to discard certain provenance was made. In other words, if the owner has only a single painting and needs to store only the things connected to that painting, this may not seem like such a momentous undertaking. But take a museum or university or large collection for instance, in which many new collections that are very valuable are often constantly accruing, and things can very quickly get overwhelming when they aren't constantly sorted and, occupationally, certain things discarded when they can no longer afford to be stored. I'm not an expert on this, I just get my information from working with archivists doing research at a large research university that is quite well known for its collections. I've seen the immense areas of storage, and I haven't seen the even more immense hidden and locked buildings and buildings full of storage that is half-way sorted and archived. And even with all of this storage, they still run out of the resources necessary and have to sort through and discard certain items of provenance in order to take in significant and important collections. Things that are often similar to the extra wood and nails that could have been saved in this case.
@@Sokolva yea also why store a box with wood scrapings
@@veralenora7368 There's a Tssytube video on restoring a fan just for people like you.
“Impeccable taste in videos”
Everyone: You’re goddamn right.
“this video is brought to you by you, the audience”
me in bed eating chips: 👁👄👁
🤧😲🤧❤️
🤣😂
More like eating HOT chip and LIE
Hey, Greg
hey...not this again...bluebird slims sourcream & chives...forever
"You, the audience, with impeccable taste in videos"
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
@Milena Shvedova complimenting us and complimenting himself at the same time in the most elegant manner. This is so him I can't-
@Milena Shvedova yes exactly! It's the same as when he fixed the painting the cat slightly destroyed and he was complimenting his work 😄
I came so early the varnish still hadn't dried
I came and gave my keyboard a varnish
If that’s what you’re using as varnish, it will never fully dry.
@@laurenpiro1876 ??????
@@laurenpiro1876 But at least it's reversible.
@@laurenpiro1876 YOU DIDN'T
Julien: "You think I'd wear my old and dirty apron? Come on... you guys deserve better :)"
Me, holding back tears: yeah.... I do deserve better.... thanks, Julien 💕
Julian if you ever run out of things to do, you should be a narrator for audible.
The way he speaks would be really soothing when reading poetry probably. Are poetry books in audible?
YES
Yes! absolutely!
He sounds so similar to the person who does the "Lore" podcast
Oh yeah!
Someone call the police, quick. He stole my heart with his criminal flirting...
Ah, it is hopeless! He probably has crates with stolen hearts, the police will have the impossible task to trace yours! :)
Mood
I'm picturing the last shot of Raiders of the Lost Ark.... (my heart is somewhere in one of those crates!♥️)
That little smirk at the end of the apron question should be ILLEGAL
no, no police😔
Me buying a cheep canvas from Micheals after watching Baumgartner:
The canvas: literally 5$
Also the canvas: has *STAPLES*
Me: THE HUMANITY!
QUICK GET OUT THE UPHOLSTERY TACKS AND THE MAGNETIC HAMMER. YOU HAVE WORK TO DO.
great one, Eliana! LOL :}
when he said 'its my bad for missing something , so i'd never go back and charge extra for a mistake on my end' i had flashbacks to every renovation show on HGTV that hinged on charging couples extra for unexpected home fixes.
I know! Good to know Julian has a bit more integrity than that.
My thoughts exactly!
Fixer upper comes to mind.....
or when I take my car in for an oil change and end up with a 600 dollar bill cause they want to fix aome othe r shit too
@@ormurgujonsson8463 That is entirely different, that means you have been neglecting service and they are telling you shit is broken and you need to get it fixed.
The basic dude's toy: a motorcycle
This goof's toy: A CLAMPING TABLE
I lol'd , goof ?🤔😂
Julien: "this is the last video"
Also Julien: surprise mother heckers
10:23 ...It's just not fair to go back to my client and say well I missed something in the beginning and now you owe me more money...
If only my plumber and car mechanic works that way lol
Yeah! The mechanic one is horrible, my car went in for what was supposed to be a routine fix of a bolt or something and I get a call to say there was other problems that "had" to be fixed before he fixed the main issue and before I could even say well actually I dont want to, he replied oh, well it is already done and the cost is (way higher than originally said) i was spitting feathers all the way to his office lol
😂😂😂😂👍
or chip and joanna gaines during fixer upper every time they found something unpleasant and then had to tell their clients that they will have to pay an additional $4000 for a new special made iron fence
Impeccable integrity and ethics.
And that is why plumbers and mechanics have such bad connotations on them. But also, they are necessary. Art conservation, is objectively a luxury. And anything art is value by reputation.
About removing wood at the back of the painting: off course it was not reversible. Thing is, it was not you who destroyed the wood in the first place. You just did your best to save what was left.
well said
I know right, that was a pretty dump question
It sucks cuz you can tell it killed him to take away part of the original painting despite having to do so
Yes, its was realy a question of; do you loose this part of the structure which has already been damaged or do you loose the whole painting...No choice for me, he's just making good the damage
Absolutely, but the funny and ironic part was how he roasted the previous conservators on how irreversible their work was.
My English teacher: you need to watch series in ensglish to improve your listening
Me: I'm watching "Wood that it were so simple"
Every other business: Oops! We missed this billable item, so forget our initial quote and pay up!
Julian: Missed this billable item. That's on me, we're good.
Love his business integrity!
I'd love to find an auto mechanic with this philosophy.
Isn't it strange to see Julian's lips actually _moving_ when he's speaking?
PurpleTheGodess Yes! I was thinking the same... first real shot of his teeth 😬
Yes haha
The 23 dislikes are from people who preferred the old apron.
The ppl who disliked the videos are either previous conservators of the painting, ppl who use STAPLES (oh the horror!!!) or ppl who don’t use reversible techniques and products
Caitlin Eve worse, they’re polyurethane enthusiasts
@@amandarodrigues2975 thats the cringiest thing ive ever heard
So I’m washing dishes the other day and I start using my best Baumgartner voice: “Now I’m using a soft sponge here as I don’t want to scrub too hard and remove the protective coating...”
bro I do that all the time with cooking!! it's infectious lmao
😂😂😂😂😂Goofy dude!
Now you can use an S.O.S. pad here for this pot...and some dishwashers do...I just don't believe it's appropriate for this situation.
David Goppelt Heh! Me too only with my manicure tools - laying them out with Baumgartner care and precision.
The only thing sexier than a man doing dishes is a man doing dishes and narrating it like JB!!!
Sometimes I think people just don't really listen to what he is saying. He explained very carefully about the eye chip and his feelings about removing parts of the wood panel. Pay attention people!
Same thought
Agree. Also, he's wonderfully patient to answer the questions again anyway.
I noticed that too. I've made it a habit to listen to him in the background before bed cause his voice so soooooothing
Biggest issue of the internet: No one listens! Julian was a gentleman about it though.
I think sometimes people watch videos just trying to find something to fuss about or trying to make a point that will make them look smarter than the person making the video.
"This video is brought to you by you, the audience"
This gave me huge PBS vibes
“Brought to you by viewers like you. Thank you”
He definitely could have his own show on pbs anyways....
NRMblessed this comment made me realize why people suggesting this be a netflix series never sat right with me, and it’s because OBVIOUSLY Baumgartner Restoration should be a PBS show :0
can’t believe it never occurred to me before
When I started watching these art restorations, Julian seemed like a really serious person without a "youtuber" personality, by which I mean there wasn't a lot of interaction with the audience during the videos and that gave them a respectful and professional vibe. Do not get me wrong, they were incredible nontheless, but I love how much that has been changing over time because, even though the work is still as refined and professional, it's also incredibly interesting to get a glimpse of Julian's personality, humor and warmth.
You're an amazing professional, Julian, and now more than ever I love enjoying your beautifully put-together videos! Thank you for this one especially, and if I may add, maybe if the client doesn't feel comfortable showing themselves to your audience, you could update us on their comments and emotions, because I'm sure it's thrilling to see the human aspect of your conservations when they go to the owners (hope we get to know about that AND the frame). Also, great apron!
Cata Orostica What a lovely comment
Nicely put and I totally agree!
Very well said, Cata Orostica!! I feel the same way!! Just when I think I cannot love this channel any more Julian makes this video and I fall in love (with the channel) all over again!! This man has something which is all too lacking in this world, integrity and ethical practice!
Yes!! I've been thinking the same for the past few projects. His personality is coming through and it feels like the community is growing. This video definitely cemented that thanks to the back and forth of our questions getting answers instead of just waiting for them to get answered at some point in a relevant video. It feels good man
He has such a darling personality, it's so nice to see it reflected in his content :)
"But removing wood isn't reversible!"
Julian: "I never asked for this."
it feels like hes been held at gun point THE WOOD WAS ROTTING GODAMN IT
Julian: I don’t have a big scanner or 3D printer or CNC in the studio... yet ;)))
He doesnt even have to buy one. There are open labs you can go and use this sort of machine and pay for the used time like a rental
@ I don't think he wants to move the restoration project out of the building. That sounds a bit risky. Buying the equipment if needed might be an investment. It can open up for more possibilities within woodwork (frames)
New toys...uh, tools... incoming
Frank-T he doesn’t need to move anything outside the workshop if it’s to make a custom part.
This is the only channel where I'll read the comments. No trolls, no meanness - just fun and joy. This IS for y'all, cuz you are all the best of humanity!
🤨
As do I, the Julian effect.
😁✌✌🌷
The nerdfighter community is the only other love based community I can think of...
And chaos...... lots of chaos
Here's an idea for a new T-shirt: On the front it says "Reversible". Turn it inside out, and the print reads "Elbisrever."
TAKE MY MONEY
YES YES YEEEEEES
JULIAN BETTER SEE THIS.
Yes!!
When Julian gets a 3D printer, it's gonna be all over for us
he printed parts of his clamp table
Clampinator
Julian: Thank you for fostering curiosity in your audience. It is truly refreshing to find such a response on UA-cam.
You are amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!!
I find that crafting/craftsmanship or (more or less) scientific channels here on UA-cam usually has a kind and curious community. If you skim through the comment sections on videos by Cody’sLab, Hainbach, MyMechanics or Brady Haran’s many channels (Periodic table of videos, Numberphile etc) for example, you’ll find this exact same thing, and I love it!
That HVAC question caught me by surprise, I'm from europe and don't know a single person with a HVAC system at home. You only see that on new buildings here.
Does your weather allow that? awesome if does! I’m from a city TX, US that gets 105 F (40.6 C) so if there was no HVAC, I would die hahaha
The southern half the US definitely has HVAC in most homes built since the 70s, and most public buildings. It's too hot and humid to do anything else. July and August see us more often in the upper 90s and low 100s than anything else. And the heat doesn't dissipate at night, either, it's too humid for that.
@@dr.uracil About 5 to 86 in most of europe +/- a few ticks depending if you're in the north or south of Europe.
Almost everyone in the United States has a central air/hvac system built in their home. Or at least several window air conditioners
Me to! I live in the UK and has go search what the heck it was! Lol.
We get hot summers sometimes but it is hot to us but I doubt it feels hot to someone in the States, I think the hottest days are at the 30ish degrees Celsius (no idea how hot Fahrenheit) but no house that I've lived or been in has air conditioning or what that other one was called, we have a fan lol
Julian Baumgartner is proof that lawful good Paladins exist in real life and are actually awesome.
OMG that was the absolute comment💕💕💕💕
So what is this series eligible for, an Oscar, an Emmy? All the awards? Just give it all the awards, it saved the summer of 2020
Webby
Julien your patience with some people’s comments is astounding.
I'd take an audio only client reaction with clips of the conservation running in the background, or even a client commentary over and about the conservation, just anything to know that they appreciate all the hard work that went into conserving their artwork. I'd even enjoy hearing Julian reading a few paragraphs from the client!
Personally I couldn't care less about the clients. I just want to see Julian do his thing and see these masterpieces brought back from the brink.
same!! an audio or written comment would be just fine!
At the end of the day though, Julian is running a business and needs to keep his clients happy and comfortable coming back to him, or referring others to him. If they’re not comfortable being on camera, they’re not comfortable, and shouldn’t risk his rapport with clients by trying to coerce them to film or record any sort of reaction. Keep in mind, a lot of his clients probably have a fair amount of wealth if they’re able to buy and have a painting restored. That may not be something they’re okay with flaunting to the internet.
IMO, it could be nice if the client tells the history of a painting in voiceover. But you'd be surprised how difficult it is to get good audio quality and a good narration. It takes work and practice to look good on camera and sound good in the microphone.
Damn it Julian, just when I thought I couldn’t possibly like you more, you hit us with “that’s not how I run my business.” You are a rock star.
WE GET AN EPILOGUE?! 😍😍😍 This is like getting a second Christmas morning!
Honestly, I really feel like we are the most chaotic yet devoted YT fandom, I swear. And he spoils us so much. Keep it up, Enabler...er, I mean Julian.
This man is a true specimen of what it means to be a businessman, a gentleman, and a father.
OMG HE LISTENED AND GAVE US A PART 6 😭😭
With any luck we’ll get a part 7: Framing the Surprised Reader, Wood That It Were So Simple
I've never felt more loved in my life
someone remind me in thirty years to look up the painting and tell julian how good he did
!remindme 30 years
“I hope they send the new Dutch ripple frame to me so I can put the painting in it myself and show you guys the finished result” okay 1 that’s so sweet of you and 2 that implies a possible part 7 oh my gosh, thank you so much Julian for taking us through the process and remaining so patient throughout all of your work
psssttttt! we got a surprise for ya, come see 😁
@@bclairelarr THANK YOU SO MUCH 🙌🙌🙌
I was really hoping he would respond to whether he warns his kid "Remember, everything I do is reversible" when he's been naughty.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hah, nice. :D
The smirk at the end for the new apron... gold 😂😂
The dislikes are from the (presumably dead) previous conservators' constantly roasted because of this YT channel
hahahaha
Nahh man, this guy praise and talks too much about himself and his work. I just not like to hear a lecture whenever he is scratching something.
NarutoSSj6 he doesnt talk about himself much as all, if you’re referring to the “as an art conservator” then you’re dumb.
most conservators dislike him because he is heavy handed and reckless to them. He is very much a commercial restorer, he has no formal training and shouldn’t be regarded as a top tier conservator
Superior tacks
If you format the timestamps like this they should show up on the timebar:
0:00 Introduction
01:06 Who is the artist and what's the title?
02:00 Is the painting really going into a home without HVAC?
2:56 Did your client pay for the clamp table?
4:34 The painting doesn't look perfect, what gives?
5:46 Did you test the "sandwich" assembly?
6:26 What about reports and notes about your work?
6:59 How much did this cost?
8:23 Will we get a client reaction video?
8:47 What about a frame?
10:33 How long did this project take?
11:37 Why fiberglass and not carbon fiber?
12:20 What about 3D scanning, 3D printing and CNC?
13:25 What about removing the wood, that's not reversible?
14:46 The $64,000 question
@Laughing Gravy ahhhhhhhhh! 😂😂😂😂😂
Finding Julian has made 2020 almost livable for me.
Everyone: THAT WAS A GREAT 5 PART SERIES WE LOVE YOU
Julian: THERE IS ANOTHER
Dorime 👽
@@user-ot5ds8ek7v Interimo, adapare
Dorime. 👁️👄👁️
Roy C. Ameno ameno 👁👄👁
Did everyone see the hidden message in this video? Julian is clearly being framed.
You got it all wrong! He is thinking outside the box, ahem, frame! :)
😂😂 this made me chuckle
so I see dads enjoy art conservation too
Massive, but very well deserved, groan....! 🙂
@@lemonmusk4218 Lol! Is that a cat in your profile pic? I'm gonna need some more looks at that little stud muffin! 😍
A general question: Are there artists or value of a painting that you would not feel comfortable conserving? For example, if someone came in with a Raphael worth $40 million, would you take on the project?
He has said before that he would never work on the Mona Lisa if offered (someone asked that specific question on one of his live feeds) because it is basically the most recognized and loved painting in the world and no matter what he did there would probably be a lot of people who would think he ruined it. (Also because DaVinci used painting techniques that were innovative and not well understood and any solvents might actually take the original paint off).
I would love to know how he feels about doing conservation work on other old masters like you are talking about!
@@auntkaz422 DaVinci was notorious for that! The Last Super started cracking and peeling in just a few years after completion. And that's not even dealing with it having been in a dining hall that's been remodeled several times (with no HVAC!) At this point if some one told me all of the original was gone and it was nothing but retouching left, I'd completely believe them.
As Julian pointed out in part 5, retouching with oils as old as 150/200 years ago is more than enough to have made it meld into the original itself....
I learn way more here than I ever did in school. Thanks for the question and the responses! 💛🌻💛🌻💛
@@auntkaz422 Wasn't the Mona Lisa also damaged by acid? I can totally understand that literally NO conservator really wants to clean or restore this painting although its so dirty that her eyebrows are gone now and her veil almost invisible...
@@VincentoValentine it is not worth the bother to squeeze through the tourists only to get a glimpse of a ruined painting, at a distance and behind glass. Go to the Rembrandt room; you might have it all to yourself. Or hunt down the Hals and VerMeers.
Me to my mum: I need an old painting that can only be repaired with a 3d printer and scanner.
Mum: ...
Julian: NEW TOYS
*Tool
@@alessandrareis8907 ;)
I recall him conserving a sculpture somewhat recently that needed a small wooden part remade, and he did that, so you'll have to go BIG and maybe even plastic (so the 3D print would match)
Who thumbs down videos? For real, who thinks “wow this thoughtful video isn’t good enough for me”. It literally costs you $0 to be positive.
Some people need to poop ! Can't think of any other reason not to like this video ..... wait... their jealous !
Haters gonna hate. Its what they do. It has nothing to do with the video they are disliking. 😉
How is this man so comptetent, intelligent, curious, patient, embracing, inspiring and wholesome?
Dad: Are you winning son?
Me: yeah dad and julian said i got impeccable taste uwu
The uwu elevated your comment by a landmark, congrats sir/miss
I really, really enjoyed thiy series. First of all it felt more 'hands on'. I especially liked the segments where you talked to us, painting in front of you, instead of doing a voiceover. I cannot quite put my finger on why exactly I feel that way, but it felt like we where in the studio, with you, learning even more about your thoughts and approaches on conservation. All in all I really enjoy all of your videos but this series really stood out to me. Thank you so much for taking us on that journey and letting us in even more into this amazing world I really didn't know existed, 'till UA-cam showed me one of your videos.
Yeah, my path to this channel went: painting techniques for wargaming miniatures > action figure customization > action figure restoration > toy car restoration > old tool restoration > HERE.
We all just finished watching part 5 where you PROMISED us that "this is it. No more". You're an absolute mad lad, Julien.
Honestly, Julian repeated so often that he didn't want to remove anything from the back of the painting in several parts of the series that I was getting slightly irritated by it. Yes, we get it. You have no other choice, it's the only option. You asked others, you did your research... It must be done. We get it!
Apparently there are still people who a) don't listen or b) don't care or c) don't care to listen...
He told us! Several times. That's one of the reasons the series was so long and amazing! He told us all the hows and whys!
“Julian, the doesn’t look perfect”
WHO THE HECK LET THIS PERSON INTO OUR BEAUTIFUL FANBASE?!?!?
You sir, are making our time in quarantine around the world so much easier to handle.
Thanks for doing an awesome job.
I don’t comment, like ever, but I have loved this series specifically, but the channel as a whole. I have loved how you work through problems and explain your process. It’s utterly fascinating, but also informing. To cap it off, to see someone guided by professionalism and ethics, even when it makes the task more difficult is amazing to see. This has become one of my favorite channels on UA-cam, and I can’t wait for the next project! Thanks for bringing us along!
Ok hands up
Who else had to google a "Dutch Ripple" frame to
get an insight on how the art would look??? 🙋🏼♂️
Ps
Thank you Julian
My local Dairy Queen features a Dutch Ripple: I asked the gal behind the counter if Julian inspired this cone, and she just looked at me...
No shame here, I did a search and went "oh wow that's going to be amazing".
I did after you asked. I forgot about it. So thanks for the reminder.
When he said “down there” and pointed down, lemme tell you I CHOKED ON MY HOLY WATER
I blushed 😊😉
I SNORTED TEA OUT MY NOSE.
When?
“Whenever I build a new toy- tool”
Lmao Julian 😂😂😂
Ugh he's adorable
That hit like the PBS 'This video was brought to you by viewers. Like you!'
But *harder*
When Julian gaze long into an abyss, the abyss blink first
A I can’t like this comment enough. The circle is complete when Nietzsche joins the conversation 👍
"Re-frame those decisions" 08:13, you knew exactly the pun you were making and you will face judgement in the hereafter for it.
Wood That It Were So Simple
a.k.a.
A Slow, Whimsical Ascent into Restoration Fan Heaven
I could see him in a episode of some crime drama. "sir where were you on the day in question?" Julian- scraping, scraping scraping "I was removing the layer grime before I could remove this varnish"
"you guys deserve better" he is so cute wtf
also master please take me as your student, I'm starting to think this is the best career path ever
I've had the same thoughts. I work at a frame shop, and no option to do repairs which is really heartbreaking when I see customers come in with minor damage and I have to say 'sorry no can do, get new frame'. Research what it takes to be one, contact any and every conservator you can find in a reasonable distance and chat with them. Visit their workplace if possible to see the daily life. That's what I'm doing
@@hannahnott-concepttoart7141 That's a great idea actually, thanks! I did a bit of research on college and things like that, found some interesting options abroad (here in Brazil there's just a few). I'll ask my art teacher about this, he might be able to help me out a bit and introduce me to some people after quarantine is over
Good luck to us!
Mona é brasileirah. Passa os contatinhos kkkkkkk quero tbm.
@@isabelapeluso9275 HSBDNFJKD vem de zap amg
@@lemonmusk4218 será que se a gente encher o saco do Julian ele vem pro Brasil?
"This video is brought to you by ... you, the viewer"
Me, a lurker who never posts anything : Hell yeah, I deserved that pat on the back, huehuehue.
(I love your videos, by the way. Keep up the great work. ^^)
Not gonna lie, I was a bit stressed about that highlight in the eye so I'm glad Julian clarified.
Thank you.
Outstanding. I knew you were an artist but designing and building that table was a first rate engineering job. Showing all the background work required to restore such a damaged piece made this your best project yet. Masterful, sir.
I'm just checkin' in for the smooth ad transitions.
Aaaawwww I loved the opening!!!! "This video is brought to you by YOU the audience!!!!"
I didn't know I needed an art restoration channel in my life when I stumbled across it a year ago... but dang... I really did. I love you Julian. Your videos are amazing.
But I think I'm most in love with your voice... keep up the good work. ❤
Man, I’ve got to say, I really admire your sense of ethics. Bit of a strange compliment, I know, but what a better world it would be if more people operated with your honesty, integrity, and professionalism. Your clients are lucky people!
I am in awe of you work.
My mother was a restorer of European & Chinese porcelain. It has been a trip down memory lane to watch you at work, especially the touch-ups. I could watch you for hours, and just have done that actually.
I believe that you are a second generation restorer/conservator, you do great honour to your late father.
You do a great job in educating people on the nature of, and distinctions between conservation and (over) restoration.
Thank you for sharing your work with all 1.5 Million of us!
Epilogue... you knew I wanted more.
Haha can totally relate to calling tools "toys" because they are so much fun!
Nice that you answered all the questions below without any annoyance even when that one question was kinda catty. You really are a man of professional standards!
Keep that up, its what keeps me coming back for more! Also your videos help me sleep when depression dictates I must be awake and cleaning.
OMFG HIS SMILE IS BEAUTIFUL, I CANT FFYGFJJFFHJFG *heart melts*
Lucía Panchal I feel like that student from Raiders of the Lost Ark who wrote LOVE YOU on her eyelids.
I am sure this comment will be lost among the 1.3ish million subscribers but -- I want to tell you how truly wonderful, exacting, professional, creative, ingenious, responsible and fun you are as a fine art conservator. A complete pleasure to watch and learn from... And man, what a cool apron. May you and yours (and all your subscribers) be blessed and be well and be happy.
Last time I've been here this early, Julian was still scraping Polyurethane.
I'm pretty sure he's still scraping polyurethane.