We Need To Talk About Jordan Henderson
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Former Liverpool captain and current England international Jordan Henderson joined Al-Ettifaq in the Saudi Pro League on enormous wages in July 2023.
Henderson's move to Saudi Arabia has been criticised due to his prior support for the LGBT community, but in a recent interview, he claimed money wasn't the reason for his move to the KSA, that his presence there was a positive, and even cast doubt on human rights abuses in both Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
In this video, HITC Sevens analyses Henderson's often laughable claims, his dishonesty, stupidity, and warped view of himself and the world.
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In his defence, he was only on £100,000 a week at Liverpool. How can anyone expect to survive on such pitiful wages?
Cost of living crisis hit him hard
He will be shoplifting anavar next lol
he was living in Liverpool and the surrounding area- nothing good is happening there
@@harrybellingham98 If he wanted to see a barren wasteland devoid of all traces of humanity, he didn’t need to move to a city in a desert. He could’ve just left his Liverpool home.
Lmao 😂 do ya people ever get tired of being sarcastic?
I’d honestly have 10x more respect for him if he just pulled an ighalo and said he only went to Saudi for the money and didn’t really care about much else.
Exactly, at least Odion Ighalo is honest, no point in trying to feign empathy when you clearly have none.
@@Alfie_1exactly. Like bro is earning 700k a week, how could it be for anything else 😭 and I’ve just watched the ighalo part so clearly Alfie agrees
Bet Henderson can't l
Sleep at night knowing you don't respect him. Performances will take a dip now
10x0 is still 0 so I agree
@@FurioussBearnever said I don’t respect him, even as an arsenal fan I have respect for what Henderson achieved at Liverpool. However I do think Henderson will lose sleep over the criticism he’s receiving, he genuinely seems like somebody with principles and it seems the criticism he’s getting from the lgbt community is getting to him which is why he’s come out with this desperate interview to save face.
True Fact: Before Henderson went on loan to Coventry, the West Midlands had never even heard of football. No one can deny Jordan is growing the game.
Mind Begs the Question:
To support and aid an Apartheid State
Righteous,Evil?
yeah he is growing the game in a country that already had football history
and let’s not forget he’s doing by himself, it’s not like there are literal ballon dor winners playing in the country that “never heard about football”
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsEvery country has skeletons in their closet. Don't fall for the propaganda.
Jordan Henderson, throughout literally his entire career: "Gay people deserve rights!"
Also Jordan Henderson, now he's playing in Saudi Arabia: "Well... I mean... that's just my opinion, if my employers think otherwise, who am I to disagree?"
literallly.....
Yeah but one is England the other is Saudi Arabia
@@sh3tpostsgamertime204you do realise he could’ve not gone to Saudi, no one forced him
So we.should all go to saudi and tell them they're religion is wrong
@@cashcorleone3311
So we should have all sat back and let Hitler try and make the world in the image he believe in?
Nobody is saying we should tell an individual their opinion is wrong (even if we may want to), we are saying that literally killing people because their beliefs don’t match yours is wrong.
Unlike Henderson, James Milner is a true professional who accepted that he was a rotational player in his final years at Liverpool and still always gave his 100% best instead of chasing the money in Saudi Arabia.
...then moved to a genuinely exciting, but young, team where his experience would be a huge plus. In the gay capital of the UK. But never shot his mouth off about anything, just let his actions show what he was about.
James Milner is such a pro, I hope he becomes a top coach/manager!
Milner is a legend. Henderson is a disgrace.
Brighton is looking good this season ngl
@@cockatoo010Milner is a legend and Henderson is a disgrace... what, I mean jeez u guys are hurt man. Milner is a legend and so is Henderson and I'm not even a pool fan
@@thejeanyes12you are not a Liverpool fan but you are blind
As a young man growing up in Coventry, I had never heard of football until Jordan Henderson bountifully arrived.
No surprise given his initials. He's actually the second coming of Jimmy Hill
@@stalfithrildi5366 I don't know who that is, we didn't have football before Jordan
"I've worn the laces, Ive worn the armband."
I can't get over that quote. Pure Partridge.
Before watching this video i thought Henderson was only going for the Money but 10 mins into this video, i can see i severely Misjudged Henderson, He is actually going there to grow the Sport, what an outstanding Individual he is
The man is apparently going to engineer social progress in Saudi with the unorthodox strategy of taking tons of money off them, not challenging them in anyway and ditching every principle he's ever claimed to have. It's a bold strategy Cotton.
@@saltmerchant749great film reference 😂
@@saltmerchant749 What's your suggestion, we boycott Saudi Arabia, then miraculously they will all abandon their religion and beg us for forgiveness? We cannot expect them to liberalise any faster than they already are. Few would have believed the steps they've already taken 10 years ago, and they get little credit for it. Like women in bikinis on Saudi beaches. Even gay life is flourishing in Saudi Arabia, it just isnt in the open. But they're nowhere near as bad as Iran, which regularly executes gay men, trained the 9/11 hijackers, and harbours Al Qaeda to this day.
The only thing he is growing is his retirement fund
I think it’s become very clear that he never really cared about LGBT issues. He just aligned himself with it and the rainbow laces campaign for good PR so he could get good sponsorships as a result. Now going to Saudi is more profitable than that so he’s turned his back on it
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
Guy didn't do it for good PR he was forced to why can't you guys get it
@@876jamaicanyouth he wasn’t forced to do what he did. He went above and beyond what was expected of other premier league players and captains to intentionally frame himself as an LGBT ally. That’s why his move to the Saudi league has attracted more scrutiny than any other players that have moved out there
@@edwardelric2786 first of all any sense of childhood and innocence you get from a rainbow is purely another projection put on a naturally occurring phenomenon. Secondly supporting the LGBTQ community is supporting sexual acts. It’s supporting people’s rights to live freely
@@_Chairman_Meow if you say so again what does this has to do with his stance for said community it's amazing how many things occurring in the world needed actual attention and we are here debating this he did nothing wrong we are the ones feeling entitled to be demanding why he left with silly ulterior motives
Watched Henderson lecture us on rights and LGBTQ for the last 5 years or so, rainbow laces and commercials so that we can be as virtuous as him. As soon as it became a minor financial disadvantage to him, he sold his morality straight away and now won't question his employers culture. Henderson is a small example of a culture of western celebrity figures who will say the right thing, act the moral way but only as long as it comes at no cost to them, we really need to think about who we decide to see as role models and stop picking vacuous self serving morons like Henderson who would sell his soul for double pay, and have the lack of critical thought to see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Guess what football players are entitled to their family wellbeing too not pleasing the fans everytime
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@@larryjohnston5995 He was on close to 200k a week at Liverpool. His family was already set for life.
It's so easy to talk numbers when it's someone else's money...
ok thanks for that, smoothbrain @@larryjohnston5995
As a Liverpool fan, I've never been more disappointed in a player. He's so obviously floundering around not knowing what to say, and some of those comments are probably just because he's getting paid to say so. When he left us, the timing was fine. He was about to be phased out, spend most of his time on the bench, and likely run out his contract. He had his worst season for us and, although he was an incredible captain for a decade, it was time to go. It would have been a much better interview if he'd just said what he said about being phased out and admitted that he went for money. Because it's obvious that those were the two reasons. He wanted to play, he got offered a lot of money and guaranteed game time, so he took it. Instead, he says all this drivel. So, so disappointed in him.
He shouldn't have advocated for the LGBT community if he didn't actually care about it and also shouldn't talk shite about his motivations. He's tarnished his reputation forever.
@@n-zedorai6613the issue is that he is not saying that though. The issue is being a massive hypocrite and pretending he’s doing it for other noble reasons.
@@n-zedorai6613 If everyone ONLY went for the money, everyone would of flocked to the Chinese super league years ago when that had its 5 minutes of mega money. But they didn't. The difference between this and what European clubs have done is they didn't start splashing absurd money over night, it happened over time. It gradually built up to this point, there was no money magically materializing out of nowhere one transfer window.
Also to state what is hopefully obvious, people are not happy with Henderson not because he moved for the money, but because he's being dishonest about it AND a hypocrite. He had a reputation of being moral and having integrity, but the move and his interview shows otherwise.
@@n-zedorai6613 it's not the same. The players move there for both the money AND success. As the bigger clubs have a bigger chance of winning trophies. Moving to Saudi is just money.
"Liverpool didn't want me anymore", says Henderson, about a squad, club and fanbase who openly adored him. What more reaction did he want, exactly? Begging, wailing, rending of hair and kissing of feet? Weird social demand. Sounds like his Ego is out of control, Messianic.
Amazing. Also: Norwegian striker Amal Pellegrino was a front-man for fair play and a frontman in the fight aigainst racism. Then he moved to Saudi. In an interview in norwegian newspaper VG he flat out admitted that "This is for money". No excuses. Now he is back in Norway scoring and being celebrated. It is truly amazing.
Reminds me of when Gary Neville bravely went and worked for Qatari state TV to make sure he wasn't hiding away from important human rights issues. I'm in tears just thinking about his courage and selflessness.
Money over morals
thank god for the selfless work of the multi-millionaire property developer and landlord gary alexander neville
@@StephenC-1908it really is though. People working in a petrol station are doing a normal job earning a normal wage and just trying to get by in life. Almost every player and coach who’s gone to Saudi was already set for life financially, and still chose to go.
His utter stupidity in hosting HIGNFY didn't get what it deserved. It should have been a thirty minute uninterrupted evisceration.
Poor Gary and the burden he has to carry.
You didn't even mention the best part of his interview with the Athletic, Hendo said this when speaking about the LGBTQ+ community: "All I've ever tried to do is help. And When I've been asked to help, I've gone above and beyond to help. I've worn the laces. I've worn the armband. I've spoken to people in that community to try to use my profile to help them".
WOW Jordan. Bravo. Such effort you must have put into tying those laces, and pulling on an arm band. Truly above and beyond. If only us mere mortals could strive to go that far.
And this is coming from a Liverpool fan. Look beyond club allegiances, we have to call out people on stuff like this. Whether it's delusion or gaslighting, this was mind bogglingly stupid.
The phrase "virtue signalling" has been misused to the point of meaninglessness, but this is exactly the sort of craven behaviour for which the term was originally created - paying lip service to a political issue in order to gain social status, while actually doing bugger all to solve the problem.
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
I’m a Manchester United fan but I really thought he was a good lad. But my god that answer is absurd. In my mind, he definitely have donated to charities, but if he truly did, why on earth would he not list it in his answer? So I guess, he didn’t??? Mate, even I made donations.
Sounds like he's far braver than us gays - all we have to do is be gay, which comes naturally, but he's bravely chosen to occasionally wear a rainbow armband or laces, truly I bow down to him
@@edwardelric2786You seem to be very upset about people using rainbows?
How is it sexualised?
Anxiously awaiting part 2 now 😂
Job done
...next mission
he might be one of the only people who would've been better off saying he went there for the money, because at least he'd be honest for once
Does he tell a lot of lies? I don’t know anything about him besides what I saw on Wikipedia and heard in this video.
@@dronesclubhighjinks I'd be suprised if he did. Before this entire debacle, you saw enough tribute video's on UA-cam. You'd almost think that the man saved Liverpool in its darkest days when you read those comments. Its only after this interview and his move, that he has been heavily criticized.
@@disistheway2679 oh wow, maybe I should check out some of these tribute videos. Thank you for your reply!
The year is 2023 and Alfie has just delivered the best intro in a UA-cam football video
The year is 2023 and people are only just finding out that the religion of peace isn't so peaceful after all.
Such a savage review, absolutely spot on
@@worldVHS It is only when your grandmother comes out of the grave that she will still tell you that Islam is the correct religion
If it was a print column he should be nominated for an award on it. It's BLISTERING.
Great video Alfie!
This video is incredible but I personally really do want to believe he’s done it to spread football more globally. I like the idea that in his mind even though football is the most popular sport worldwide by a mile and pretty much every human alive has probably played or watched some version of it, the thing holding it back from being more popular is that the people haven’t seen Jordan Henderson play sideways passes for a mid table Saudi Arabian team.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 Had me in the first half still
The misdirection there was very well executed. Did not expect that last part of the last sentence and it sent me 😂
😂😂😂Superb comment. There's some crackers in her but this is my favourite.
If Henderson meant what he said, he would 100% have called out Al-Ettifaq when they greyed out his rainbow armband in their announcement video.
He literally failed at the first hurdle. I mean, fair enough, if he wants the money, but don't try and pretend what you're doing is positive when you've already ignored their attempts to censor.
He could have said “Guys I am 34. I went for the money” Most people would be “Ahh fuck it. Not a great move but I get it” .. Whatever legacy he had is done.
actually, a lot of people would have said “great move” if he was just honest about it, because professional players play for money
@@SomeChink Exactly. Although a United fan I had a lot of respect for Jordan as a player and as a role model. It’s really sad to see him ruin everything.
Frankly, this would be the point where the "there would have been criticism no matter the decision" quote-oid actually would have applied. If he had said it was greed alone, people still would've shat on him.
@@DrZaius3141 People will always say something. But since he made himself the spokesperson of LGBTQ then at least say the truth and don’t try to make everything about the culture and the religion of each country because it’s bs.
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
He lectured us all on women's rights but then went to a country with the worst women's rights on the planet. 🤦♂️
Liverpool fan here. Agree with everything you said. It's really disappointing to see one of the best captains in the club's history leave in such a disgraceful way, betraying everything the club stands for. I don't think he's being called out on it enough by the media and, unfortunately, a part of the fanbase.
His interview just made it worse, throwing the manager and the club under the bus.
Agreed.
Yeah, kinda sad the club must have serve this sick propaganda. Never mind when the tide will change so will the club's opinion.
@@bzilla-d4i great input there mate
@@bzilla-d4ihad to like your own comment cause you knew you'd get crickets
@@Dkmo94 who cares about likes buddy, it's the truth, also there's more than one like lol, and that's not from me buddy. You'd only think that if you've never been to Liverpool or if you have had a personal relationship with Purple Aki, is he your boyfriend? Did he feel your muscles 😂😂😂😂😂
Worst interview by a English man since prince Andrew 😅
It was a disgrace that he got in the most recent England team.
Reminder that Jeffrey Epstein didn't off himself.
As a lesbian Liverpool fan Henderson was an inspiration to me. He was such an outspoken ally in a sport filled with immense homophobia. He really sold his soul going to Saudi Arabia. Never been so disappointed by my hero.
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
that's a smooth brain you have there, eddie @@edwardelric2786
@@edwardelric2786oh be quiet. When was a rainbow about child like innocence. It’s a scientific phenomenon, ya a dafty.
Welcome to the harsh reality of the world. All your "heroes" are only doing that stuff for positive PR, it's all virtue signalling. Henderson would've barely cared about LGBT stuff before, it's all one big publicity exercise.
@@glennb6020the same people advocating lgbt will be advocating pedophilia in 15 years, just take a look at Philip schofield
He's gone from a respectable man, who was really trying to push social issues and stand up for those who needed it. Shame he's thrown all of that away with his interview and move to Saudi. Undone all that work in one swift move.
What is the link between football and societal issues? Well, well, then should we talk about what Europe did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, Syria, and South America? Aren’t these societal issues? Where is your voice? I can't hear you anymore
It was annoying and hilariously stupid when he tried to push lgbt propaganda so now he’s just normal again
@bjehulk it's not propaganda. It just not being a bigot. So what if someone is gay they don't deserve to be killed for it. It doesn't affect your life at all if someone is gay.
@@ettoetto3067 classic what aboutism.
@@ThexMJT
It’s most certainly propaganda. Lgbt activity is objectively wrong, immoral and disgusting. Does that mean they should be killed? Obviously no, but should they be allowed to continue what they are doing? Also no. You realize that we all live in a society together right? There is no such thing as “within the confines of your home” with these people. They want to spread their degeneracy out in the open for everyone to see so they can indoctrinate and brainwash.
If he wanted to grow the game all over the world he could’ve come to South Africa to play for Kaizer Chiefs…
he predicted a riot if he went there
Or Uganda.
"Why are you gae?"
He tried to play for Kaiser Chiefs, then they found out he was a shite drummer.
@@ChasingLamely Pity he didn't die in a bizarre gardening accident, or via spontaneous combustion, only a globule or small stain left on his seat.
@@ChasingLamely yeah the band took the name from our club and they spelled it wrong 😂🫠 (it’s with a ‘z’, not a ‘s’)… Lol
To be fair, Jordan Henderson has NOT buried his head in the sand. He has buried it in money.
Another banger as usual. There's something very satisfying in listening to someone's very honest rant about what exactly is wrong with someone's behavior, and be spot on with everything. The extra touches of dripping sarcasm make it all the more satisfying to watch. Those are some of my favorite videos. I'm glad you have the courage and the platform to share your thoughts in a bluntly straightforward manner like you do.
“The year is 2034…” is such an Alfie intro 😂😂🎉
I've followed this channel for years. Loved every video I've seen, but nothing compares to the Google maps segment outlining Hendo's globe trotting experience in an effort to grow the game 😂
as one german cabaretist once said "if you ask a footballer a question, you shouldn't be surprised, to bear witness to an answering attempt"... thanks to the sacrifices of interviewers asking questions anyway, we got such gems as "Maybe Milan or Madrid, as long as it's Italy." - Andreas Möller, or "we mustn't stick the sand in our heads now." - Lothar Matthäus, "it's bitter, when every ball that goes in is a goal." - Lukas Podolski or my favourite.. "We can not allow to concede more goals than the opponent scores." - Friedhelm Funkel... 😂
But now when a politician is asked a question, we get nonsense. "What is a woman?" and look at Joe Biden, he's a shambolic psychotic clown.
When an Italian newspaper asked Faustino Asprilla, who was playing for Parma at the time, what his dream car was he answered... a BMW
Dude, read the room...
@@cockatoo010 LOL! He was awesome! He was at the Newcastle game a few weeks ago, still looks the same. Great eccentric player.
@@cockatoo010 I'm guessing this was when they were in financial peril?
Brilliant as always. Great point about the criticism of Henderson being so much more high profile than other footballers because he put himself in a position where he pushed a political agenda. It would be like Rashford now setting up a school where free school meal vouchers weren't accepted
He's not only failed to follow through on his support for different causes but damaged those causes. The ridiculous and increasingly popular argument that it's somehow a bad thing to be on the side of social justice/human rights because those who do are "virtue signallers" is helped by him. There's a risk of people looking at hypocrites like Henderson and Neville and deciding they shouldn't support good causes to begin with.
It would be worse, it would be like rashford coming out and being the face of a Tory campaign to remove school dinners for poor people. The abuse you get will relate to how much of a hypocrite you are
more like Rashford setting up a school where the kids were deliberately starved
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
To be fair to Henderson, the UK doesn't have stellar human rights record either (conquering a quarter of the planet and subjugated their populations, wiping natives in North America and Australia, invading China because they won't allow the British drug dealing in China, playing massive role in the Bengal famine plus a million other human rights violations in Indian subcontinent, bombing the shit out of Korea, helping the US invade Iraq to steal their oil, bombed the shit out of Libya, and many many many more). The fuck is the difference between the UK and Saudi Arabia regarding human rights records? Is LGBT right the only human right that matters?
If you go back far enough in history every countries is thick with blood. The brits did try and end slavery before most as one point to the pro.
As for the rights and freedoms of different countries in the present day. This is ranked and a few organisations have different schemes.
Freedomhouse was the one I checked it says the UK has Freedom score of 93 out of 100 and Saudi Arabia has a score of 8 out of 100.
I can criticise king Charles and rishi sunak in London. I can't criticise mbs in Riyadh.
Also, clubs in England aren't owned by the state. The biggest ones are essentially corporations, which while clearly being an issue in itself, is a completely different kettle of fish.
The reason that English owned clubs spend big money on players isn't to diversify the country's economy or build soft power, but to make money.
The comparison between saudi/state owned clubs and PL clubs would make sense if King Charles somehow dismantled the parliament, seized complete control of the government, took control of United, city, Liverpool and Chelsea and started using the country's sovereign wealth fund to buy players.
Obviously England and the West have done and continue to do fucked things all over the world, and a lot of the wealth that European football is built on is a result of that, but I think it's a massive stretch to suggest that American or English venture capitalists out to make a buck (as immoral as that may be) is in anyway comparable to the royal family of a totalitarian regime with one of the world's worst human rights records and freedom levels spending cash to increase the soft power and to diversify the economy of that regime
Henderson wasn't on the british royal family's bankroll while playing for Liverpool, but he is essentially a state employee in saudi arabia
@@someguy-eh9mg USA also has a rather high score and classified as a free nation using that Freedom House index yet it can be argued that USA is the number 1 human rights violator still standing in this world (highest incarceration rate out of any country on earth, highest healthcare cost in the world by far where poor people tend to choose to die rather than seeking bankrupting healthcare, started countless of wars and invasions against countries that dare standing against it, no qualms using nuclear weapons in Japan and chemical agent in Vietnam too to top that and countless other human rights violations inside its own borders and abroad). So should that index even be a definitive proof that a country that has decent human rights at all as the number 1 violator gets such a high score from it. Also Freedom House has received some funding from US government, make that what you will.
@@someguy-eh9mg the British Empire participated and benefited greatly from slavery. They can't just take credit for ending it when the outside pressure is what made them cave in, not the kindness of their heart. After all they still continue subjugating countries in Asia ans Africa afterwards and only allowed these countries freedom after receiving massive pressure from their subjects. Do you think its fair for them to claim that they are the country that ended colonialism when they were the one participating in it the most?
I renew my petition for you to include international subtitles for your videos. I volunteer for Spanish, but just having them would be great for me and my football loving non-English speaking family.
I think you can do them for yourself and other people in some way.
If you go on auto generated captions you can change the language to Spanish at the bottom
Just go to settings then auto generate subtitles and pick any language in the world. Spanish is one of the first few to choose from.
You have to hold the caption button in on mobile as well
@@sh3tpostsgamertime204 right,if people would just look lol. Maybe they just don't know how to find subtitles which is fair enough I don't know everything about UA-cam either. 👍🏻
I love the "I want to grow the sport" bit best I think. As if thousands of fans would be inspired and hang on every word of a past-it midfield workhorse, when ex-Ballon D'or winners are now playing there
As a Liverpool fan, I would have whole heartedly supported him if he just admitted it was all for the money
Great video.
As a Dane it was nice seeing this video the day after Kasper Schmeichel said he rejected the Saudis on his first call with them, so its awesome to see someone get roasted for taking the deal and pretending its not just about the money.
Kasper is English
Writing my thesis about sportswashing atm, so seeing Henderson getting exposed cheers me up. Keep up the great work Alfie! Greetings from Germany
I miss your country 😢
Will Euro 2024 in Germany have sportswashing?
No bc Sportswashing needs to fill out certain criteria which are absolutely not given in Germany (short answer)
@@ebys68 and what makes you qualified to make this assessment? ;)
@@Killerkey4 Considering I'm writing my thesis about this exact topic I guess I should know my shit
This might be the first time in history when saying “yeah i went for the money” would be more well received than anything else
In fairness, retired players do say it quite often when they talk about why they signed for a particular club.
@@84ajs fairs, but we’re not talking about what he’ll say once he’s retired, we’re talking about what he’s saying now. And right now, he’s saying that he went to Saudi Arabia because he’s sooooooooo passionate about football around the globe, when prior to this he has only played in england, along with the hypocrisy of him saying that he cared about lgbt rights, and acting like he was the lgbt communities lord and saviour for wearing rainbow laces and armbands, then moving to a country where being lgbt is illegal. He’s moralising a decision that was blatantly just made so that he could get more money, and in doing so, he’s made himself look like a cruel, hypocritical idiot, and idk if that perception can be reversed if he admits it was all for the money when he retires.
This is a fantastic video. Absolutely nailed it. Jordan Henderson is a deeply unpleasant individual. As are the politicians who take the Saudi petro dollar. It's disgusting.
What about the politicians and celebrities who support lgbt and the spread of degeneracy and sexual perversions?
@@bjehulk if you think that what people do in their private lives and who they chose to love is any of your business, or any business of the government, then I don't think we are going to agree.
@@Pothers18
That’s the issue though, it’s not just in their “private lives.” These people are mentally unstable and they feel the need to spread this degeneracy to as many people as possible. Look at a pride parade for example.
@@Pothers18Here we go another paid troll. No one believe the bs you spout. No matter you buy City or PSG, we all know the people you really are. Sports washing only gets you so far🙄Certainly not very far for an innocent journalist who we to a Saudi Embassy for a wedding license and got cut up for his troubles
@@Pothers18PS, is it true about the Crown Prince and the boys from Glee?🤔
Yannick Carrasco (formerly Atletico Madrid) gave a similar hypocritical and fraudulous interview also claiming 'I don't see human rights abuses so there are none, human rights organizations are wrong".
It's almost as if they're being coached ... 🧐🧐😔😔
genuinely the most braindead thing i think i've heard a footballer say. He'd deny slavery in 19th century America being bad because the plantation owner's house looks so nice
If they say anything else they probably wont be allowed or able to leave that country 😬
of course they are, unfortunately they couldn't actually think of it themselves.
@@jensdb7763haha. You don't think a popular and unbelievably rich football player has every liberty possible anywhere in the world? Ok then.
Also: if you and they TRULY believe they would have to fear for their freedom there, that'd be reason enough NOT TO GO THERE in the first place.
So yeah that argument is absolutely ridiculous.
@@svetozarkuzman2924 once again confirming 90 % of footballers out there aren't exceptionally bright. 😅😄
example of true passion is hendersons ex team mate luis suarez, who took a huge cut going to brazilian league and will be taking even bigger cut, by joining messi in miami
I swear, in 5 or 10 years he better not be given a job at Sky or TalkSPORT, even as a Liverpool supporter I think I’ve heard enough from him in one lifetime. I’ve lost every ounce of respect I had for him
That's the thing, in a way by taking this payday he's killed a lot of opportunities he could have had farther into the future. He's made himself more difficult to employ in the Western media and sports' spheres. That said, public memory is short and outrage burns out fast--in several years, most who aren't fans of Liverpool or England won't remember or care anymore (and I'm sure snakey Jordan is counting on that).
@@pendafen7405 that’s true, people will move on. I just am shocked he would say those things, especially the amnesty international stuff, that’s genuinely messed up. He made his decision and it’s done but I have no time for “he is trying to take care of his family”…. Players like him have earned millions at Liverpool already, why aren’t those millions enough? It just seems like such greed…. I could retire on 6 months of his wages at Liverpool and be fine the rest of my days but he “needs” the saudis? Please.
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
@@pendafen7405I'm not sure about that. He has genuinely fucked his reputation here. Will be difficult for him to media opportunities now and harder for him to get coaching opportunities.
@@edwardelric2786 'symbol of childhood and innocence'? In what culture? Please cite sources and references, because I cannot think of any such allusion, and I'm rather well-read. Even to say the Bible is a stretch; one could argue the rainbow a symbol of hope therein (for the story of the Ark), but beyond that there's nothing to connect rainbows to childhood nor innocence.
Liverpool fan here, have been heartbroken by this ever since it happened. Been easy to tell the motivation from the start. He might have been considered a club legend if he held his integrity off-pitch, but the way it is his respect at LFC will likely last as long as his respect for his own principles last.
Dont fall for the racist and bigoted takes against him! Saudi Arabia are a good ally of the west, especially in the war on terror, and it's imperative we maintain a strong relationship with them. It was Iran that trained the 9/11 hijackers, not Saudi Arabia! The public has been brainwashed about this. They are liberalising rapidly so why should we turn them into an enemy for being slower on gay rights than the west? What good will that do anybody, to make them become an ally of China more than they already are? You cannot push them too fast, people dont know the history. King Faisal was assassinated by an Islamic extremist in 1975 for introducing televisions to the kingdom. It is Iran, China and Russia that are the main problem in the world, not the Saudis, who are even willing to make peace with Israel soon. These same people hating on Saudi Arabia, are generally fine with Jeremy Corbyn who spent his whole career aligned with Iran & Russia!
I was glad it happened. Confirmed some suspicions I held since his last contract extension
I think the most surprising thing is he went but Salah stayed!
Your owners are ecstatic at this move 😂 stop pretending like Henderson is the only one involved in this deal, you also took their money. I'm not saying don't hate on Henderson, but hate on Liverpool as well, and definitely Newcastle whilst we're at it
@@rkid4734 what are you on about? The deal happened because he wanted to go first and foremost. Nobody would even begrudge the fact he went if it wasn't for the way he's conducting himself about it.
Basically, Henderson is capping more than a Lids store
Ighalo has my respect 😂lol that man straight to the point
While other footballers are preparing for a future career as a football manager or a presenter/commentator, our man Henderson is preparing for a future role as a politician. He already knows how to speak like one! PS This is the most sarcastic HITC Sevens video yet, lol
The Henderson map had me laughing out loud 😂😂😂
Hendo saying money wasn't the reason is like saying you have a playboy subscription for the articles
Playboy has articles????
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716okay, unbelievably nerdy historical knowledge here but... Playboy has always had articles, and a lot of them of massive social and academic value over the years.
The original concept of playboy was to trick young men into absorbing intellectual and liberal ideals by selling them naked girls and hoping they'd read around them.
For all the virtue signalling he chose money at the end as is usually the case
True. He was never an actual activist for the rights of lgbt+ people. Some footballers are, but sadly not many.
@@jord.an6123
Sadly? I’m glad most of these footballers know deep down that this filth is wrong. At least they aren’t totally lost in degeneracy like Hollywood
Wait until people find out that Lockheed Martin or JP Morgan are only doing it for image too. They'll be shocked!
Everyone knows corporate support for social justice issues is them simply trying to look like theyre on the right side of history - to make their shareholders happy. No one, even lgbt+ activists like myself, are under any illusions@@drunkenhobo8020
We gotta remember that corporations and henderson cynically "supporting" social justice causes doesn't say anything negative about the causes themselves, though.
Its good these movements have mass support, it just sucks that some of that 'support' is two-faced or cynical groups/people pretending to join in with our mass movement for change.
The message is good. Just sucks some of the messengers arent doing it for the right reasons.
Such is progress, though. It's the way these things go.
I'm sure some people and companies pretended to support anti-slavery or women's suffrage too. Doesn't mean those weren't noble goals.
Idk, just something to remember.
This video aged so well, it’s not even funny 😂
Jordan Henderson disingenuous and hypeocrital attitude is pretty bad, but not as bad as Carrasco who two days ago said "i dont believe in human rights groups, ronaldo and his wife can walk the streets safely. What's the problem?"
And yes, this is a real quote.
It is just baffeling what football officials and players are saying about anything happening in Saudi Arabia or the Arabian peninsula in general. Franz Beckenbauer also said an incredibly crazy qoute about Qatars bad working conditions which was "I haven't seen any slaves yet. I have not seen anybody walking around chained up and being whipped. Everybody walks freely."
There's definitely a balance to be had while what Carrasco said is incredibly ignorant and tone deaf it also speaks to players frustrations in some European countries with crime. Many PSG players experienced this last year and indicates a failing society that respects criminals rights more than their victims.
I would say that many LGBT+ people (myself included), felt very disappointed when he went to Saudi Arabia, but we nonetheless understood that he wanted that large paycheck.
But what he said after that was utterly ridiculous.
Fuck lgbt who cares?
I would say that many LGBT+ people thought the first part was ridiculous enough
@@T.E.S.S. I cannot disagree. I guess I am just more charitable and I always give people the benefit of the doubt. But I must admit I was totally wrong about him.
Are you also disappointed that their religion doesn't allow it too then ?? Have some God dam respect !! Muslims don't allow it, don't be so Islamaphobic !!
@@worldVHS YOUR religion is YOUR guidebook. YOU are not someone else’s guidebook. Why don't you relax and let god make the final decision, if you so truly believe you are 100% faithfully following your god?
The quotes are unbelievable. "As long as I'm doing what they tell me, I will do what I believe in".
Can’t wait to come back to this in 2034 when hendo saves the world
So this page has gone from football, to leftie political dribbling, to propaganda pushing, to a whole new low of personal hit pieces. 🤦🏻♂️
Sadly
What propaganda has Alfie been pushing?
@@ethandalton6480 that of our secular religion of LGBTQ+.
@@Dude0000 when's he done that?
And now he's had enough and wants to come back to the premier league. Interesting
Im quitting smoking and proper miserable, that opening 50 seconds was the most ive laughed in months and gave me a second wind. Cheers Alfie 😂
As a Liverpool fan, I'm happy you're making this video. The guy was a bang average player that was holding us back for years and now he's going on a tantrum because nobody begged for him to stay. Childish, one can tell he's clearly insecure about his own footballing abilities.
Cunt never got out of Gerrards shadow
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This is your worst video ever by far, imagine you told a Muslim in the UK how they're religion is wrong because western society says so, but for some reason its.okay too say these things about Qatar and Saudi. THEIR COUNTRY, THEY THINK IT'S WRONG
I'm not sure any British Muslims are whipping out bonesaws whenever they see a gay couple in the street
Thanks for being an awesome human Alfie and calling these greedy hypocrites out when it's deserved. I had nothing riding on the last world cup and I wanted to watch it but took a stance to not support that regime. When the US started doing decent I definitely wanted to watch but wouldn't because you can't buy back your respect when you've sold it.
Henderson is the kind of bloke to take a trip to North Korea, take the government-guided propaganda trips, and say "hey it's really not that bad here I don't know what they were talking about labour camps cause we did not see a single one."
You need to stop imposing your western views on Saudi Arabia and the rest of the world. This is just neo-imperialism and neo-colonialism cloaked in “progressivism” and “human rights.” If you truly preached tolerance and diversity then you should also respect diversity of thought and opinion.
Poppers tolerance paradox. People should be tolerated unless they are intolerant themselves. If not it leads to the end of the tolerant themselves.
@@someguy-eh9mg not all gays support LGBTQ+, not all black people support BLM and not all Jews support the State of Israel. ALL politics being out of sport is the lesson we should take, but like the hypocrites we ALL are, we evidently won’t.
@@someguy-eh9mg Cry more.
@@EliasRoy I point out a philosophical idea and get told to cry more. 🙄🙄🙄
UA-cam dialogue to a tee.
Well, he's a footballer isn't he - not a universally acclaimed philosopher. Like most people, he wouldn't understand the word morality if sat and conversed with it all day. As our global politicians and and Corporations show us constantly, in the pure white heat of the Media, it's money that matters stupid - nothing else apparently. Rich good, poor bad - that's the only philosophy we understand or are allowed to understand.
Oh, he's not stupid. (If he sounds stupid, that's because everyone sounds stupid when they're defending the indefensible.) He understands morality. But understanding morality does not compel you to act morally...
Because he's not some random player. He made a big deal out of being pro gay rights. And then signed for a PR project for a regime that beheads gay people because they offered him a lot of money
the google maps part was killing me lol
The truth: Liverpool is 2023/24 up to the challenge of Man City and has no intention of letting anything slip. Neither the club not the manager made the slightest indication that Hendo should consider moving on. But Hendo knows that his days in the very top flight are numbered, and that he may in the course of 23/24 have found himself with increasing frequency on the bench. At the time of his decision, the Szoboszlai transfer was certain and Caicedo was still a possibility. LFC 23/24 would be very hard work, Saudi however a comparative walk in the park, and that for even more money. Human rights in Saudi and/or Yemen were not an issue. It was the dosh, Hendo, admit it.
You made me spit out of coffee at the start of the video well done.
Had been waiting for this one. Didn’t disappoint. Thanks Alfie.
He didn’t see anything against human rights in Qatar? Bro even Muslims couldn’t accept what Qatar was doing
Your sarcasm is really savage in this one alfie . Well done
If he'd be a football manager player his attributes would be 1 ambition, 1 loyality and 1 professionalism 20 controversy.
What a great video Alfie - definitely one of your best. As a gay football fan, I have been so annoyed by Henderson's blatant hypocrisy and his subsequent interviews have made it even worse. Why can't he just be honest and say he's gone there for the money? I'd have far more respect for him if he said he's a working class boy who wanted to secure his family's financial future, even though he was already a multi millionaire and didn't exactly need any more money.
I just hope Conor Coady - my club's former captain and a tireless advocate for gay rights - doesn't ever follow in his footsteps. I'd be so devastated!
"No one wants me to stay at this club!" says the man who has been the club captain for years
"the best for his family" phew lucky he was able to save them from poverty now he's playing outside of the prem
Thank you for talking about this, Alfie. I feel manipulated and betrayed by Jordan. So disappointed.
why?
Henderson doesn’t owe you shit 😂😂
Ighalo is forever a legend for admitting the truth
5:00 Huge credit to you for getting the figure correct. It has been absolutely infuriating seeing people still use the 700k figure when that was exposed as a journalist's mistake before the move even happened
It’s not thought is it. 700k is the pre tax figure equivalent. 350k is net. But in the U.K. we don’t report wages net. We report them gross.
@@gm9460 there is no income tax in Saudi Arabia.
@@jamesknapp4309 I know. That is basically what I said. We reported it in our press as 700k because it is the equivalent of 350k in Saudi due to the tax . That was where the error crept in
As a gay football fan, it was incredibly disheartening and all the discourse around it has just made me dejected with the game and where the collective fan bases are currently.
There’s so few allies in football so when you feel you’ve got one you champion them so much, Henderson proved himself to be nothing but a pandering charlatan who’d sell us out all for a few quid.
Thank you for putting this video together mate, really means a lot.
Edit: save yourselves and don’t read the comments, there’s a guy who keeps spamming death threats and he thinks I’m manually deleting them because he’s not the brightest
Guess what bud, you being gay doesn't make you more special. You can't go to a Muslim country and start telling them they're wrong because your country says so
@@saintpepsi8602 cba typing this out again so I’ll just use my previous reply.
I’ll make it really easy for you to understand, Henderson put himself forward as a champion for LGBTQ+ rights, he went out of his way to make a point of being the face of the rainbow laces campaign and then he decided to go Saudi, a country where being gay is punishable by death. Notice how no other players are getting stick from the LGBTQ+ community, just Henderson, if he’d never put himself forward as a spokesmen then he could’ve gone there and earned his bag and no one would’ve cared, like we don’t care about the other players signed this summer. He’s shown us all that his original stance on LGBTQ+ rights was motivated purely for self interest and his public image rather than something he actually believes in, that’s why he’s being judged so harshly but fairly. This has nothing to do with respecting muslim beliefs, Henderson isn’t muslim.
@@saintpepsi8602 If you believe you can't eat pork and drink wine, it's cool. But if you tell me that I cannot eat pork and drink wine, we have a problem.
If you don't like LGBT+, well, then don't be LGBT+. You do not have the right to tell others they can't be LGBT+.
Never trust a virtue signaller.
@@saintpepsi8602see this is where we have an issue, i respect your religion and your right to live your life however you want but you don’t respect my existence.
I don't really understand this video or any of these criticisms tbh. He's more than 100% shown by the ridiculous amount of work he's done off the field that he was being completely honest. Like what more does he need to do? Overthrow the monarchy? He also has spoken out about some of the issue he talks about, so that part is just blatantly false.
The country of England taking Saudi Arabia's oil money = Awesome
An English football player taking Saudi Arabia's oil money = Horrible, how dare he!
Exactly lol. These english people are such hypocrites😂
Scotland has Oil.
When has Alfie said that is awesome?
@@marsco1758 Just useless
Thank you for this video. Saudi Arabia is hell for LGBT people. I’m trans and would be arrested for ‘cross-dressing’. Gay people suffer a similar fate simply for loving someone else.
I used to have respect for Henderson, but his prior ‘principled’ support for us turned out to be a hollow gesture. We need allies in this sport now more than ever.
Sadly, as a trans ex-player, I don't think we're ever going to have true allies in this sport in my lifetime.
We'll have plenty of people who claim to be until the price is right, but true allies? Not a chance.
@@ChasingLamely I agree, sadly. It’s so disheartening to love a sport but not feel welcome. I’ll keep advocating for change, though as you said, it’s going to take a long time.
@@brynnpringle4834 No one cares. Go watch golf if you want to. Who’s forcing you?
Always had a slight suspicion that Hendo was a bit of a 🔔 end but this move has confirmed that he is indeed a massive one
The LCDTV people complain about everything yet are some of the most privileged people walking today!
They're not though, are they?
@@ethandalton6480 Who else gets an entire month of everyone praising the fact they like to ejaculate in unusual places? What can a gay person today not do that any other person can? Even the law recognises their superior status. Which is fine, but all we ask is that it’s recognised, maybe even appreciated.
@@Dude0000 not get attacked or even murdered just because of their sexuality.
Which laws give them a superior status to the rest of us?
@@ethandalton6480 murder is not legal and whoever is found guilty will be prosecuted and punished. Hate laws give special protection. If you murder a gay person, you’ll get a harsher sentence than if that person was straight.
@@Dude0000 not sure how that gives the LGBT community superior status, the criminal might get a longer sentence, but they'll still be dead.
His biggest mistake was virtue signalling. That was it. Let's face it, Henderson is not Messi or Ronaldo level so when he gets offered such a high salary, of course he would take it. Anyone would. They didn't exactly persecute him personally and didn't force him to change his religion. The fact that the people who are currently trying to cancel him right now are the people he previously virtue signaled for and the fact that the Saudis are paying him high amounts of salary every week and treating him well in general even though I am pretty sure they are well-aware of him virtue signalling for the LGBT community when he was in Liverpool, doesn't make the decision that hard. Had he stayed in the EPL, he would have gotten much lower salary than what the Saudis are paying. In the end, all that virtue signalling doesn't even get you a high salary and the moment you do something the LGBT community disagrees with, they'll do everything they can to cancel you and ruin your reputation. So he made a smart decision moving there. And he definitely shouldn't have bothered with that interview because they were always going to try and ruin his reputation this way. Seriously, all other professional footballers should learn from this and stop trying to virtue signal and instead just focus on playing football. They are after all paid to play football first and foremost and that's what everyone is watching them for. I seriously don't care if a footballer that plays for the team I support has a differing opinion than me on some social issue as long as they perform well for my team.
Reputation destruction is exactly how we treat our ‘heretics’. It’s mind blowing that more people are totally oblivious to this when it’s a huge part of our modern culture. LGBT, along with BLM etc are a huge part of our secular religion and we are demanded to participate in their rituals or else.
7:38 Alfie stop it! 😂😂😂
The amount of sarcasm in this video murdered me 😂😭
Saudi is probably a nicer place to live than the UK tbh. Less crime. Less drugs. Cleaner cities...
I don't agree with Sharia law. But let's be real, Saudi, UAE, Qatar etc... they are bloody nice places to live.
you named 3 factors. Literal modern day slavery occurs over there and they are better countries? They prosecute and murder people who go against their governments, have backwards views on gay people and women etc
Alfie you've really out done yourself mate. Finally someone went in two footed on this dude. Bravo.
Atleast he didnt take a symbol of childhood and innocense ie.. a rainbow and sexualized it for political clout, I wouldn't be suprised if he was forced to wear rainbow laces by liverpool fc and there american owners.
I'm only 7 minutes in and in stitches smirking to myself and chuckling 'till the "Hendersons Globetrotting career" bit made me burst out laughing.... had to pause the video to recollect myself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Too scared of being disrespectful of cultures to wear a rainbow armband, meanwhile Lewis Hamilton wore a rainbow helmet to the Qatar Grand Prix 2021.
It is possible to speak up about equal rights if you care enough about them.
yeah, f1 teams are there for what, a week? Hamilton hadn't gone to live there. and probably barely left the team facilities/track.
Brave of Hamilton to even go their considering how gay he is.
This is probably the most egregious attitude and behaviour from a former Liverpool captain since Souness gave that interview to the S*n. EDIT: and to be fair to Souness, he at least seems genuinely remorseful and even at the point of tears when he looks back on that decision.
Souness was crazy back then, he's a different guy now, he's actually always been a nice guy, "cuddly" he was described by a former team mate! Who was that again?
What comments did Souness make to the Sun back then? I wasn't around for that
@@pendafen7405 it was the fact that he'd done an interview at all, let alone that it was so soon after "The Truth": the interview was released on the third anniversary of Hillsborough. It was the nail in the coffin for both his management of, and relationship with, the club. It's a rift that's never truly been repaired. There's a Sky Sports interview where Souness is talking about things he wishes he could take back and looks like he's about to cry.
@@pendafen7405 He said that Pespi was, "far superior to Coca Cola, only cunts drink that shit," and he had to go into hiding. He shared a flat with Salman Rushdie where they would hold epic Subbuteo tournaments and George Best, Alex Higgins, Chas and Dave would show up, it was mental.
Penda's Fen is a great movie, btw, mental! Hail King Penda!
The LGBT community need to get behind Henderson and start watching the Saudi League.
Funny how Henderson gets criticised but no one in the media questions Hamilton or Anthony Joshua taking money from the middle East
There’s literally tons of googleable articles doing exactly that
Hey Alfie just an idea to talk about the Spainish Fa and their current problems
Bloody hell. Gime him a chance ffs. Not as though he can knock these videos out every 5mins. Plus the spanish story is still on going
Maqwell already did a comprehensive video essay on that- watch his take. He's giving Alfie real competition in this.
I'm sure he's planning something, but that's still ongoing
@@iandawe948 damn just a recommendation 😂
Zealand also did a nice video about Rubiales and his creepy shenanigans
In the case of the UK government, whilst still morally reprehensible to wish to make strong ties with Saudi, they are at least incentivised to do so for more understandable reasons (most pertinently to replace the lost oil supply from Russia). Henderson on the other hand has no such reasoning and through these interviews is desperately trying to convince us that he does. How on earth a few extra million a year is worth the complete disintegration of your reputation will never cease to amaze me.
Your most brutal video so far. I’m all for it
To be fair, Henderson always seemed a bit thick. People who are thick can't argue their point cogently.
I disagree. The reason that Henderson can't cogently defend himself is not because he is stupid, but because what he's done has no cogent defence.
As a Liverpool fan, goodbye and good riddance. He never was a TOP player, but as long as he had some strong players in the line-up, like Winaldum or Milner (well, Milner 5 years ago), or even Fabinho before last season, he was OK. Nothing spectacular, nothing impressive, just OK. A reliable run-of-the mill player, nothing more, nothing less. But ever since Winaldum left and Fabinho started to suck ass, Henderson's horrible inadequacies have been exposed. So, yeah, from A PURELY football standpoint, goodbye. MacAllister is a much better player than Henderson ever was.
I love all the comments trying to defend him by saying „everybody would take a offer like that“.
Dude, guys like Lukaku, Modric and others literally said no. 😂😂😂
More money isnt going to increase your happiness if you already have millions under your name.
And some people dont want to waste their precious time playing in the desert and living in malls.
Jamie vardy , son, messi
like plenty looked at this money and went nah
@@lordpelagius5078Messi definitely chose money, just in a different place. His contract is absolutely insane.
Literally all he had to do was admit that his move was money motivated. Some would have had their gripes with that, but I'd argue that most of us would at least understand. Instead he treats us as if we're stupid by attempting to convince us that his move was philanthropic in nature.
I am Uruguayan and I think this video is unhinged! I don't blame my compatriots Suárez or Nuñez for playing in the UK, despite its duplicitous foreign policy or its rampant domestic racism. They are forwarding their careers or their bank account, it doesn't mean they endorse the UK!
This is a very stupid comment.
For one, there is no rampant domestic racism in the UK, but regardless, premier league footballers are free to say whatever they want about British foreign policy. In Saudi Arabia you be killed if you criticise the government and Henderson is gonna turn a blind eye to all of Saudi Arabia's human rights abuses all the while pretending that he cares a lot about human rights and that he isn't there for the money