Don't forget that the two GEs in front are also a hell of a lot heavier than the Class 66s; more weight = more usable tractive force to the ground. CSX opts for heavier than normal units with heavy software that will max out its traction motors for all their worth.
The longest and heaviest train that has ever been run anywhere in the World did so in Australia in 2001 or so. It was a loaded iron ore train, 682 wagon for a gross load of 100,000 tonnes, hauled by 8 GE AC6000 class locomotives. The iron ore trains in Western Australia are normally the longest and heaviest trains anywhere in the World.
I see those blue Conrail locomotives pass by my house all the time, it's always attached to CN locomotives on the CN lakeshore line in Mississauga/Toronto..I don't know much about the engines but I always wondered why they were attached to CN loco's
I miss them a lot I live in Cleveland Ohio. We have a large rail yard and fueling station as a kid I would see conrail trains all the time and the caboose always made me smile..it was like a special treat at the end...I don't know why they went out of business but I mainly just see Burlington northern or an occasional csx train
@@lornperkins4270 Conrail didn't go out of business. Conrail was a US government entity that nationalized much of the east coast railroad industry. A huge chunk of the industry was bankrupt or on the verge of it and the federal government stepped in. They bought up a ton of railroad companies and consolidated them into a single nationalized rail company. Con(solidated) Rail(ways) After some time passed and the industry began making a recovery, Conrail was sold off to private industry rail conglomerates like CSX and NS. The feds didn't want to be in the rail business forever, just long enough to keep it from collapsing.
Awesome!!! I remember when this one ran, I was (and still am) mad that I couldn't get out to see it. Incredible lashup, and the horn on 8420 was great too!
Most times when there are more power then needed, the extra engines are either disabled and transported to the facilities to be repaired. Some of the power might be transported for extra power somewhere else but is a very short distance.
Question, when a consist has helpers, does it make a difference where the helpers are located in the consist? My perception is that on the east coast helpers are located at the rear of the consist. On the west coast, helpers are located somewhere in the middle of the consist. Is this valid?
for the eastern states that's a pretty impressive train. it seems a little surprising they put all the engines up front. UP sends trains across southern idaho with up to 12 engines coupled in fours, 4 engines up front, 4 more somewhere in the middle and 4 more towards the rear of the train. consists can run up to 2 miles in length
The model I have is outdated, but if you look up motorola or yaesu scanner radios I am sure you can find something about them, and more information on a railfan forum once you do a google search. They range from $125-300. I'm not an expert on the latest and greatest scanner radios because I have used the same old one for over 6 years, but there is plenty of information if you do some google searching...
With that being said, the other night, I took a 18,5xx coal train of 128 loads up a 40+ mile, 1.50% grade to around 6800ft. For power, 6x 4400 GE motors; 3x on the head, 3x DP. We maintained a top speed of 12 - 15 mph in run 8; i'd love to see those 66s do better.
Lyon Hearted The UP 3985 4-6-6-4 Challenger, although the largest steam locomotive in currently operational, was dwarfed by many steam locomotives both in size and pulling force.
Super catch with the locos, obviously! And I love your choice of locations as well, the beautiful buildings in the background in the first, and the more urban setting in the second. And then you get a local coming into the video at the end. WOW!
yeah, that makes sense. with the grades they have to pull coming across wyoming into southern idaho it would also seem prudent to place locos in other parts of the consist to ease the strain on the couplers of the lead engines
Nice catches! I live near the Raritan Valley line in NJ and often see Norfolk-Southern and CSX. I have seen some Conrail blues, but from a distance and while I was driving over the track on the Parkway! Occasionally we get "exotics" - leased power or recently purchased units being taken for new liveries. There have been a bunch of Canadian Pacifics over the last year or two with NS trains.
The Dash-8-40CW has a 4,000 horsepower engine. So there is only 8,000 running horsepower in this video. The maximum tractive effort is about 483 kN while the Class 66 has a maximum of 409 kN. Keep in mind that your Class 66 locomotives were also built in North America...the only thing you have to brag about is your steam (which is very nice!)
Those things were monsters. I'd be kinda scared to be in control of that much raw power. I heard that two big boys could haul a load up to 10 miles long....
Great vid, Eric. Super catch! Too bad, that the last six units were off-power, otherwise i would have asked as to whether those GEEPS and 45s were "shovin' them GEVOS"!
GE units aside, you can't beat the EMD 645 prime mover; hands down the best freight motor ever assembled, IMHO. The GE Dash-8's disappeared a long time ago from CSX in the Richmond area. but there are units built as early as 1966 (when the 645 replaced the 567) that are still operating in everyday service on shortlines and regionals all over the country. My favorite sound while trackside was a lashup of 4 SD40-2's in helper service on the Pittsburgh line at Horseshoe or Cresson, throttles wide open in Run 8.
Derry Road in Hershey,Pa. is a "GREAT" railroading spot! Never saw an 8 locomotive lash -up there! Did see the circus train though. Plus the Hershey GP switcher!!! GREAT Catch ! :-)
Depends. Out on my local line in Illinois, we hardly ever get anything over 3, and most are just 2. The local line runs high tonnage, and some lines run low tonnage. I think this train was a half-power move.
UP is running empties trailers back to the west coast, these trains are really three trains in one. They are broken up before entering the seaport. UP is reducing the cost , one crew instead of three. The train in this video has loaded cars and most of the engines are in tow, just part of railroading, maintenance, to many engines on one end of the line, etc.
All the locomotives are controlled by the lead Locomotive. There is a jumper cable between each loc that is on line and the brakes are connected by air hoses. The lead is setup for lead and the others are set up in mute. The independent brake is cut out and the train line brake is lapped. I would think that most of the locos in this video are cut-out excepted for the train line brake with the reverser removed. When riding on these cut out locos,I have helped the engineer by loading one on a hill
I live near one of the lines Conrail Shared Assets still uses, so Conrail blue is still a relatively common occurrence. By contrast, I've seen a Union Pacific locomotive exactly once in the past 5 years. It's still always pleasant to see the Conrail blue, don't get me wrong :).
csx had a ten loco come thru my city last week only train in my life ive seen over 4 lashups. i couldnt get my phone out in time enough to snap a picture or video. and had 15 mins of work left so i couldnt chase.
I saw something like this once. It had 7 engines. 4 in the front and another 2 towards the middle it had to have been at least a mile and a quarter long easily.....
This may be the best to you. The best to me was when i was a rail photographer and not a filmer. NS Intermodel. Lead Unit was a GP38 for NS with seven Warbonnets from BNSF/ATSF
@kmdjones1 Unless you live along Conrail Shared Assets in New Jersey, you would not see these everday. And I don't think every railfan lives along CSAO, not to mention, you can't see blue GP15-1's any more because they were all repainted.
Don't forget that the two GEs in front are also a hell of a lot heavier than the Class 66s; more weight = more usable tractive force to the ground. CSX opts for heavier than normal units with heavy software that will max out its traction motors for all their worth.
1554 is a CSX unit, the yellow numbers give it away. the horn on the lead unit has obviously been changed since its conrail days.
The longest and heaviest train that has ever been run anywhere in the World did so in Australia in 2001 or so. It was a loaded iron ore train, 682 wagon for a gross load of 100,000 tonnes, hauled by 8 GE AC6000 class locomotives. The iron ore trains in Western Australia are normally the longest and heaviest trains anywhere in the World.
#1 - 1994 GE C40-8W (#8420)
#2 - 1990 GE C40-8W (#8315)
#3 - 1973 EMD GP38-2 (#5329)
#4 - 1973 EMD GP38-2 (#5277)
#5 - 1979 EMD GP15-1 (#1554)
#6 - 1973 EMD GP38-2 (#5312)
#7 - 1972 EMD SD45-2 (#1705)
#8 - 1972 EMD SD45-2 (#1703)
8 locomotives bingo!
I see those blue Conrail locomotives pass by my house all the time, it's always attached to CN locomotives on the CN lakeshore line in Mississauga/Toronto..I don't know much about the engines but I always wondered why they were attached to CN loco's
Very nice! That new paint looks snazzy on the C40-8Ws.
Dude I love conrail, my grandpa used to work there!!!!
*C O N R A I L Q U A L I T Y*
I miss them a lot I live in Cleveland Ohio. We have a large rail yard and fueling station as a kid I would see conrail trains all the time and the caboose always made me smile..it was like a special treat at the end...I don't know why they went out of business but I mainly just see Burlington northern or an occasional csx train
@@lornperkins4270 Conrail didn't go out of business. Conrail was a US government entity that nationalized much of the east coast railroad industry. A huge chunk of the industry was bankrupt or on the verge of it and the federal government stepped in. They bought up a ton of railroad companies and consolidated them into a single nationalized rail company. Con(solidated) Rail(ways)
After some time passed and the industry began making a recovery, Conrail was sold off to private industry rail conglomerates like CSX and NS. The feds didn't want to be in the rail business forever, just long enough to keep it from collapsing.
Fantastic channel. What is not to like? Keep on rocking and performing a excellent job.
Wow! What an awesome lashup of old school locomotives! Absolutely love that and the Nathan P3 Air-Horn on the lead locomotive!
Power move of NS and Conrail, and I love how the C40-8w has the P3 new cast.
I would love to sit beside the track on a nice warm sunnny day and watch awesome trains like this rolling by!
Awesome!!! I remember when this one ran, I was (and still am) mad that I couldn't get out to see it. Incredible lashup, and the horn on 8420 was great too!
Great video. This is a very rare train and it would be great to see something this rare today. Even the horn on this Dash 8 is cool.
*_"There's somethin' seriously wrong with a man who puts a Nathan on a Dash 8."_*
Most times when there are more power then needed, the extra engines are either disabled and transported to the facilities to be repaired. Some of the power might be transported for extra power somewhere else but is a very short distance.
Question, when a consist has helpers, does it make a difference where the helpers are located in the consist? My perception is that on the east coast helpers are located at the rear of the consist. On the west coast, helpers are located somewhere in the middle of the consist. Is this valid?
Wow what a great video, beautiful.
Absolutely fantastic. This is a video I've been waiting for. 5*, a favorite, and a channel post. Awesome, awesome, awesome!!!!!!
for the eastern states that's a pretty impressive train. it seems a little surprising they put all the engines up front. UP sends trains across southern idaho with up to 12 engines coupled in fours, 4 engines up front, 4 more somewhere in the middle and 4 more towards the rear of the train. consists can run up to 2 miles in length
The model I have is outdated, but if you look up motorola or yaesu scanner radios I am sure you can find something about them, and more information on a railfan forum once you do a google search. They range from $125-300. I'm not an expert on the latest and greatest scanner radios because I have used the same old one for over 6 years, but there is plenty of information if you do some google searching...
With that being said, the other night, I took a 18,5xx coal train of 128 loads up a 40+ mile, 1.50% grade to around 6800ft. For power, 6x 4400 GE motors; 3x on the head, 3x DP. We maintained a top speed of 12 - 15 mph in run 8; i'd love to see those 66s do better.
RBN MP’s running URR style…very nice. Thanks for export info…seen both RBN’s and NS Alum hoppers at Mol-Dok Leetsdale PA
Those Conrail units look almost new. Love to see that Southern rolling stock. I come from an SR family. :-)
That's over 8 million in locomotives alone. All the engineers of all the RR's should get together and come and start filming us at out jobs =)
Lyon Hearted
The UP 3985 4-6-6-4 Challenger, although the largest steam
locomotive in currently operational, was dwarfed by many
steam locomotives both in size and pulling force.
outstanding catch! I agree the lead Dash 8 is sharp..I laughed at your description of waking up to an EMS AED! LOL
Greatest and powerful and tough freight train.
What an epic NS and ex CR lashup, from the good railroading days of old. Great video.
Super catch with the locos, obviously! And I love your choice of locations as well, the beautiful buildings in the background in the first, and the more urban setting in the second. And then you get a local coming into the video at the end. WOW!
Oh, I do like the site of the older looking buildings still in use.
Nice to see 9 locomotives on the front of this train.
Nice to see the old ex-Erie Lackawanna SD45-2's still running around.
I really want a pic of one before they are retired.
yeah, that makes sense. with the grades they have to pull coming across wyoming into southern idaho it would also seem prudent to place locos in other parts of the consist to ease the strain on the couplers of the lead engines
Incredible. Thanks for sharing.
Nice catches! I live near the Raritan Valley line in NJ and often see Norfolk-Southern and CSX. I have seen some Conrail blues, but from a distance and while I was driving over the track on the Parkway! Occasionally we get "exotics" - leased power or recently purchased units being taken for new liveries. There have been a bunch of Canadian Pacifics over the last year or two with NS trains.
The Dash-8-40CW has a 4,000 horsepower engine. So there is only 8,000 running horsepower in this video. The maximum tractive effort is about 483 kN while the Class 66 has a maximum of 409 kN. Keep in mind that your Class 66 locomotives were also built in North America...the only thing you have to brag about is your steam (which is very nice!)
Those things were monsters. I'd be kinda scared to be in control of that much raw power. I heard that two big boys could haul a load up to 10 miles long....
Great vid, Eric. Super catch! Too bad, that the last six units were off-power, otherwise i would have asked as to whether those GEEPS and 45s were "shovin' them GEVOS"!
The two leading engines aren’t GEVOs, but rather C40-8Ws. They have all since been sold as of August 5, 2021.
i haven't ever seen a longest train before, it's amazing
Great catch
Oh my aching draw bar. Would have expected to see the Locos spaced out along the train. Still more spectacular this way!
Derry Road in Hershey,Pa. is a "GREAT" railroading spot! Never saw an 8 locomotive lash -up there! Did see the circus train though.
GREAT Catch ! :-)
GE units aside, you can't beat the EMD 645 prime mover; hands down the best freight motor ever assembled, IMHO. The GE Dash-8's disappeared a long time ago from CSX in the Richmond area. but there are units built as early as 1966 (when the 645 replaced the 567) that are still operating in everyday service on shortlines and regionals all over the country. My favorite sound while trackside was a lashup of 4 SD40-2's in helper service on the Pittsburgh line at Horseshoe or Cresson, throttles wide open in Run 8.
Derry Road in Hershey,Pa. is a "GREAT" railroading spot! Never saw an 8 locomotive lash -up there! Did see the circus train though. Plus the Hershey GP switcher!!!
GREAT Catch ! :-)
Nice catch. last 2 locos are former Erie Lackawanna SD45-2's.
in the description, the 1st two locomotives were ge dash 8-40cw.
TWO MFE36-6 As !!! GOOD CATCH. I'd like to see both units put back to EL paint.
Depends. Out on my local line in Illinois, we hardly ever get anything over 3, and most are just 2. The local line runs high tonnage, and some lines run low tonnage. I think this train was a half-power move.
I see something like this and i think : " That unexplicable love for the trains... " Amazing!
UP is running empties trailers back to the west coast, these trains are really three trains in one. They are broken up before entering the seaport. UP is reducing the cost , one crew instead of three.
The train in this video has loaded cars and most of the engines are in tow, just part of railroading, maintenance, to many engines on one end of the line, etc.
That is epic, I thought I was lucky finding it on a CSX train, but you got one of only two blue GP15-1's on CSX on a NS train!!!!!
All the locomotives are controlled by the lead Locomotive. There is a jumper cable between each loc that is on line and the brakes are connected by air hoses. The lead is setup for lead and the others are set up in mute. The independent brake is cut out and the train line brake is lapped. I would think that most of the locos in this video are cut-out excepted for the train line brake with the reverser removed. When riding on these cut out locos,I have helped the engineer by loading one on a hill
good angle , very nice train video
I live near one of the lines Conrail Shared Assets still uses, so Conrail blue is still a relatively common occurrence. By contrast, I've seen a Union Pacific locomotive exactly once in the past 5 years. It's still always pleasant to see the Conrail blue, don't get me wrong :).
incredible video! that first dash 8-40CW is a freakin beauty, nice catch! :)
Great video- got some great footage and shots!
Nice catch........don't know if anybody posted but the CSXT 1554 was the CR 1658 according to my computer
Now that's what I call a freight train !!!! If you get caught at a crossing with a burger and fries would be able to eat it comfortably.
A GP15 and 2, SD45-2's + one Awesome catch!!!
Excellent vid. :) In Arizona desert I once saw something similar . It was about one mile long.
Impressive and Interesting shots! Thanks, I enjoyed watching from UK
I can't see what on earth makes this the most amazing train EVER. People really need to stop with the whole "ever" thing.
He probably has never seen Aussie trains. Ever!
Beautiful! Nice job on this one. Great perspective. Thank You.
VERY NICE!!! Great catch on the all former CR units, also I've never seen the SD45-2's before!
Awesome all the way Eric!!! 5*****!
I've seen a blue Conrail engine like that before. It and another locomotive would deliver coal to the University of Georgia campus about once a month.
I've never seen 8 diesels in a multiple unit train, "SWEET".
Videos like this make me miss the US sooo much... Thanks for the video
csx had a ten loco come thru my city last week only train in my life ive seen over 4 lashups. i couldnt get my phone out in time enough to snap a picture or video. and had 15 mins of work left so i couldnt chase.
Nice brand new coat of paint on the lead locomotive!
I live close to the NS Fort Wayne-Pittsburgh line and I don't see much refuse pass though. It's mostly coal, intermodal and mixed freight.
I love that sound so much.
awesome video and great catch of all 8 ns engine's on the freight train.
I saw something like this once. It had 7 engines. 4 in the front and another 2 towards the middle it had to have been at least a mile and a quarter long easily.....
i saw 8 locos, but only front 2 had hot air coming out the exhaust... did they not have all 8 running at one time?
fantastic video, love it. As a matter of interest, in a train like this how many loco's are actually pulling?
How many does the powered rolling stock trail the cargo-cars?
In Korea, I never saw it during my life.
omg its a train with other trains that look almost identical to the usual trains we see! I'm flabbergasted.
The 5th unit (2nd Conrail unit) is a CSX unit!
Nice cwtch with the Norfolk Southern Ex-Conrail "Geeps".
This may be the best to you. The best to me was when i was a rail photographer and not a filmer. NS Intermodel. Lead Unit was a GP38 for NS with seven Warbonnets from BNSF/ATSF
Are those dash 8's conrail repaints? I can tell because they have nose number boards
And the ditch lights
that second conrail blue was a CSX engine...hopefully it was coming over to the better railroad in NS haha
fantastic catch.....
the line that goes through central pa has those U.P. engines every once in awhile too
awesome!!!! imagine all those conrails from both trains combined!
Can someone help me update, what where the first 2 loco's??
@kmdjones1
Unless you live along Conrail Shared Assets in New Jersey, you would not see these everday. And I don't think every railfan lives along CSAO, not to mention, you can't see blue GP15-1's any more because they were all repainted.
I had no idea that so much refuse traveled by rail. Thanks.
Hershey, PA that's the factory.
Wish those were still around those Conrail paints
Great catch! I seen this same train from the porch of the Station Inn at Cresson,PA.
rien que ça , 102 wagons ! impressionnant
très bonne vidéo merci
The old school Hershey setup 😢 I wish I was able to see that
I'm liking the two SD45-2's on the end.
You can always count on Norfolk Southern. =D
Lots of helpers which I've never seen before.
Nice Horn
Same location as the handbrake left on the light-engines video I saw months ago?
I think that is the call name for the whole train for tracking purpose.
Nice catch! One hell of a power move!
Only the two GE's on the front seem to be actually working, then? Still sound pretty good.