Great video! Maybe that was what was needed to get me one of those! Thought of it several times, however still hesitant cause of the Can-this-be-taken-seriously-feeling. Answer: "Probably yes!"😅
I had the same thoughts as you when saw it, but it is awesome. A bit like iSUPs these days, technology has made the need for hard boards just necessary for high level completions etc. You really don’t sacrifice much for the convenience. But you gain so much from its packability and lightness. If you’re in doubt, watch this space, as I will properly be putting this through some seriously harsh conditions. All will be revealed soon!
Nice - looks like fun. Is that a sail-mounted float visible at 1:20 and again at 1:31? If so, it's much neater than the mast head versions... I wondered how are the halves connected, and does it interfere with rolling the sail?
Well observed! The float is brilliant. I’m not keen on the mast head ones (mostly because of looks 😂) but also, right at the top, despite being reasonably lightweight, conventional mast floats still add some extra heft due to leverage if you’re sailing solo like me. But this float on the sail itself works perfectly. It’s nicer looking, super light and doesn’t get in the way at all. I can roll the sail up easy. But I do unclip it when stowing sail in bag. It’s made by and for X-cat. It comes in two halves and you thread a strap through eyelets at the top of your mainsail. (That’s the only nuisance - you need to put two eyelets in your sail). Not difficult though. I wholeheartedly recommend it.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks, it’s a great suit. It’s a Typhoon Max B branded Neil Pryde (version no longer sold). Latest Max B has some improvements. Pricey but very well made, robust and a super comfortable piece of kit for sailing and multi sports. Easy in and out. Really useful pockets. I love the high neck warmer (which can roll away) and cuffs for when bitingly cold and windy.
Yes, a total blast! I upgraded the whole mainsheet system to a 5:1 ratcheting pulley set made by Allen with 8mm Excel Marstron Plus rope. Much less effort, with far more control. Particularly in strong wind as I prefer to handhold at all times without cleating. The hand feel is so much better than standard rope, and although dyneema, it’s not slippery, it’s very lightweight, doesn’t absorb water (great for packing away quick in the bags), and it floats which is a nice safety thing when capsizing. I did a similar upgrade for all my other lines too. Above is for my 460, but a 420 I recommend a 4:1 system with 7 or 6mm. I think Minicat have started to offer my solution as an upgrade now. Have you got a Minicat?
@@lannyonthewater Thought that was what it looked like - brilliant upgrade. yeah agree on the 4:1 - probably still go with 8mm for comfort, like you a big fan of not cleating when gusty at all. already have some dyneema lines, good call. Don't have a MiniCat... yet. - kinda settled on a 420, to be honest - feels like the best compromise that can yet be traveled or shipped. I would grab the 460 but the third bag is more stuff to collect in airports and realistically peaking I'm single handing most of the time as it is, trying to bug my tendency for over-doing it.
Awesome! That wasn’t Datchet was it? I am hesitant getting the code0 for my minicat 420 evoke, I have a gennaker already and thoroughly happy with it. What do you think?
Tricky. The gennaker and rolling genna are quite different in Minicat. I find the gennaker quite an intimidating beast, loads of fun but stressful to use. Easy to get tangled, so many ropes to lay out well and constantly tidy up. And demands more skill to fly it, and potential to dip bow and get in trouble, and the constant fear that have to get it all back in snuffer on the correct side - what if it snags. And if you capsize with it out, a painful affair sorting out in the water. At the same time, you really feel the power and it helps massively on what is usually a more bland point of sail. This is mostly from a ‘solo’ perspective. If crew with, then they make life easier. The rolling genna, is completely different. It is sooooo easy. No sweat when solo. Just open it out instantly much like the jib and furl back in within seconds. Quite versatile in its point of sail too, downwind and a little upwind too. But it lacks the exhilaration of the gennaker. And it doesn’t fly as well completely downwind in the same way gennaker does. For ease and relaxation, no question the genna is way to go for most people, and makes sense why Minicat introduced it. Works very well in very little wind too. But for reward and technical skill, the gennaker is superior. Hope that helps. In summary, genna is slightly bland in comparison to gennaker, but convenience to fly it and setup outweighs this negative.
Definitely can get the hull flying, but it’s not like a Hobie 16, as has skegs on each hull. And Hobie has shaped hulls. Skegs slightly resist wanting to fly, so it takes some extra skill keeping it flying completely out of water for long lengths of time. E.g. I might have it flying for 10s, but someone with more skill could have it flying 30s. Ideally, you really want to be skimming the hull anyway for best performance (whether on a a Minicat or Hobie).
@@lannyonthewater good to know. That explains why there are no videos of anyone flying the hull 16-style. I know it is not the fastest most efficient way to sail, but it is just fun, specially with newbie. Thanks for the info.
The front wheels are Minicat’s own accessory. It’s one rod in two parts, that connects to V shaped mounts that allow space for Minicat’s skeg/fins on the hull. This is good as can get wheels more central for weight balance. Makes boat feel lighter pushing. I also have the rear ones as it’s a very long walk up that hill from car park, so anything to help my back! (Those, I also use for kayaking).
Best Minicat video I've seen so far!
Thanks!! I had to put more thought and time into it than the sailing 😂
So pleased it’s hit the mark 😊😊
Trapeze looks like a blast! My Monica's been in the garage too long. I'm inspired to get back on the water.
Not monica, Minicat! Thanks autocorrect.
what a wonderful place?
really cool video ! This shows: early sailing / season start is possible!!!:)
Great Video, looks fun!
Hope too see soon a summer trip
Me too!
lovely video thanks
Great video! Maybe that was what was needed to get me one of those! Thought of it several times, however still hesitant cause of the Can-this-be-taken-seriously-feeling. Answer: "Probably yes!"😅
I had the same thoughts as you when saw it, but it is awesome. A bit like iSUPs these days, technology has made the need for hard boards just necessary for high level completions etc. You really don’t sacrifice much for the convenience. But you gain so much from its packability and lightness. If you’re in doubt, watch this space, as I will properly be putting this through some seriously harsh conditions. All will be revealed soon!
Nice - looks like fun. Is that a sail-mounted float visible at 1:20 and again at 1:31? If so, it's much neater than the mast head versions... I wondered how are the halves connected, and does it interfere with rolling the sail?
Well observed! The float is brilliant. I’m not keen on the mast head ones (mostly because of looks 😂) but also, right at the top, despite being reasonably lightweight, conventional mast floats still add some extra heft due to leverage if you’re sailing solo like me. But this float on the sail itself works perfectly. It’s nicer looking, super light and doesn’t get in the way at all. I can roll the sail up easy. But I do unclip it when stowing sail in bag. It’s made by and for X-cat. It comes in two halves and you thread a strap through eyelets at the top of your mainsail. (That’s the only nuisance - you need to put two eyelets in your sail). Not difficult though. I wholeheartedly recommend it.
Awesome video 😊😊😊 also like the outerwear you have can you share what brand it is ???
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks, it’s a great suit. It’s a Typhoon Max B branded Neil Pryde (version no longer sold). Latest Max B has some improvements. Pricey but very well made, robust and a super comfortable piece of kit for sailing and multi sports. Easy in and out. Really useful pockets. I love the high neck warmer (which can roll away) and cuffs for when bitingly cold and windy.
that looks like a blast - noticed your main-sheet looked beefier ? did you upgrade to a heavier more grip friendly line?
Yes, a total blast!
I upgraded the whole mainsheet system to a 5:1 ratcheting pulley set made by Allen with 8mm Excel Marstron Plus rope. Much less effort, with far more control. Particularly in strong wind as I prefer to handhold at all times without cleating. The hand feel is so much better than standard rope, and although dyneema, it’s not slippery, it’s very lightweight, doesn’t absorb water (great for packing away quick in the bags), and it floats which is a nice safety thing when capsizing.
I did a similar upgrade for all my other lines too.
Above is for my 460, but a 420 I recommend a 4:1 system with 7 or 6mm.
I think Minicat have started to offer my solution as an upgrade now.
Have you got a Minicat?
@@lannyonthewater
Thought that was what it looked like - brilliant upgrade. yeah agree on the 4:1 - probably still go with 8mm for comfort, like you a big fan of not cleating when gusty at all. already have some dyneema lines, good call.
Don't have a MiniCat... yet. - kinda settled on a 420, to be honest - feels like the best compromise that can yet be traveled or shipped. I would grab the 460 but the third bag is more stuff to collect in airports and realistically peaking I'm single handing most of the time as it is, trying to bug my tendency for over-doing it.
Awesome! That wasn’t Datchet was it? I am hesitant getting the code0 for my minicat 420 evoke, I have a gennaker already and thoroughly happy with it. What do you think?
Tricky. The gennaker and rolling genna are quite different in Minicat. I find the gennaker quite an intimidating beast, loads of fun but stressful to use. Easy to get tangled, so many ropes to lay out well and constantly tidy up. And demands more skill to fly it, and potential to dip bow and get in trouble, and the constant fear that have to get it all back in snuffer on the correct side - what if it snags. And if you capsize with it out, a painful affair sorting out in the water. At the same time, you really feel the power and it helps massively on what is usually a more bland point of sail. This is mostly from a ‘solo’ perspective. If crew with, then they make life easier.
The rolling genna, is completely different. It is sooooo easy. No sweat when solo. Just open it out instantly much like the jib and furl back in within seconds. Quite versatile in its point of sail too, downwind and a little upwind too. But it lacks the exhilaration of the gennaker. And it doesn’t fly as well completely downwind in the same way gennaker does. For ease and relaxation, no question the genna is way to go for most people, and makes sense why Minicat introduced it. Works very well in very little wind too. But for reward and technical skill, the gennaker is superior. Hope that helps.
In summary, genna is slightly bland in comparison to gennaker, but convenience to fly it and setup outweighs this negative.
Not Datchet, King George Reservoir in London
Can you get the hull flying like on the hobie16?
Definitely can get the hull flying, but it’s not like a Hobie 16, as has skegs on each hull. And Hobie has shaped hulls. Skegs slightly resist wanting to fly, so it takes some extra skill keeping it flying completely out of water for long lengths of time. E.g. I might have it flying for 10s, but someone with more skill could have it flying 30s. Ideally, you really want to be skimming the hull anyway for best performance (whether on a a Minicat or Hobie).
@@lannyonthewater good to know. That explains why there are no videos of anyone flying the hull 16-style. I know it is not the fastest most efficient way to sail, but it is just fun, specially with newbie. Thanks for the info.
Did you make the front axle?
The front wheels are Minicat’s own accessory. It’s one rod in two parts, that connects to V shaped mounts that allow space for Minicat’s skeg/fins on the hull. This is good as can get wheels more central for weight balance. Makes boat feel lighter pushing.
I also have the rear ones as it’s a very long walk up that hill from car park, so anything to help my back! (Those, I also use for kayaking).