DEBATE: is Ten Hag a FRAUD?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The lads on The Kick Off debate Manchester United manager, Erik Ten Hag's start to his second season in charge.
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I’ve watched this back already and still have 0 idea the point United man was trying to make😂
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just like their club
Give Erik Ten Hag time
@@SweetCattyKing Added injury time or 30 minutes of Extra time? .... or better yet, give E7U time to find the exit at Old Trafford and back to Ajax😁
@princesssolace4337 More time to develope his team
Man united fans compared him to pep 😂
They should be comparing him to Frank Lampard. Even Frank got top 4 with chelsea for a season
@@smu02nsten Haag is much better then Lampard bro
@@Liam_Watson don’t think so. Both average
@@smu02ns do you enjoy saying so much dumb stuff? Ten hag got top 4 and a trophy and made broke ajax one of the best teams in europe twice, he is ELITE.
*saw 1 tweet saying this from an anonymous account* “ALL MAN UNITED FANS SAID TEN HAH IS AS GOOD AS PEP” 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
The Man United fan refused to critique Ten Hag. Wild insight.
I’m a LFC fan and I love every second of this but i think the pressure is a bit premature, if it’s by January when players r fit and they are still this bad then we should ask questions imo
400 million and no style of play
@erosion271and finished higher than you. But hey I guess your manager earned his keep by winning one match 7-0 as opposed to winning more of the other 37 games
@@danielodihi6440Thier manager earned their keep by winning major trophies and having a style of play
@@jonnyhill1155 took him 4 years to win a trophy and develop the style of play. Finished 8th, 4th, 4th, 2nd before he won the league with no fans in stadiums.
@@durdenclub42 I love how it's now accepted that Liverpool won the League with no fans as if it wasn't only 1 month of the season 😂
How in the hell is KG saying that Ten Haag had a worse starting squad than Arteta had when he was trying funnel 90% of that squad into a combined 11 with current day Arsenal? Please explain?
ten hag inherited a team that had their worst ever season ever, a dressing room that was leaking the whole year. a group of players that couldn’t even be asked to run for a ball the year before, and a group of players that shift the blame on others and had 3 managers sacked😂😂😂😂
@diegoperez8773 im sorry but arteta had a team of kolasinic, mustafi, bellerin, torriera, ASM and pepe. No matter the circumstances, utd had a better team and squad than arsenal's
@@olu2094 😂😂and united had maguire. all those players you’ve named are good players idk what you’re on about.
@@diegoperez8773 we had David Luiz? 😂
@@diegoperez8773 so you wouldve taken mustafi over maguire? And notice you only named one player
Bro really thinks Arteta's first Arsenal 11 was better than Ten Hag's first ManU 11 ??? 🤣🤣🤣 this guy is funny man
As a Liverpool fan I am firmly behind ETH
As I was with Ole...
Long may his reign last
As a Liverpool fan I completely agree, love the Glazers as well fantastic owners hope they never sell
@@husky2327hope ur house gets blowing to peace’s
I hope klopp stays as well he’s finished 🤡🤡
Klopp is currently on the longest unbeaten run in the premier league
So you're behind a man utd manager that hasn't done better than yours?
5:31 Ask any United fan any question and there answer will be “But Arteta…”
Leave us alone! Focus on your own team!
We like to show your hipocrisy
Then other fans should leave us to it and stop going after our manager
@@Fmfcg Nobody is doing that
‘Ten hag had a worse squad than Arteta’ HUH? In what world💀 martinez, Varane, Casemiro, mount, bruno, Rashford. 165 million in right wingers, 70 million ST, compared too David Luiz, Mustafi, Ceballos? And an extra 300 million spent? Absolutely delusional
Arteta isn't the benchmark or a blueprint
He means when he joined… we didn’t have half of those until he signed them.
@@callumanthony8525still not true though, is it?
@@saied121 well it’s opinion, but that team he inherited got the worst ever finish for a United side…
They used to do the same with Ole comparing him to klopp saying Klopp had worse results in xx amount of games. Ole just need a xx player there and that. I am loving it.
People say ten hag did a good job the only reason he got top 4 is because liverpool and chelsea had poor seasons
We also didn't play a single good team to win the League Cup.
@@JohnDoe-mi9pnand played all their games at home
This is so true. Same as the season under Jose that they came second
@@Lozh1993or the covid season under ole
And Spurs
"we cant talk about money spent because Chelsea spent loads"?? The guy who can never shut up about Man City spending.
Amen
And how much Newcastle spends
Newcastle haven’t spend that much
United fans are the most deluded fickle fans in the world. I say world because half their fan base is in africa or asia. Clowns.
@@JourdanChaneyNewcastle barely spent anything
He said united don’t have the budget? Gotta be the maddest take ever, they’ve bought 3 50m + players this summer, 100m on Antony, 80 on sancho
ten hag didnt even buy sancho mate and antony didnt even cost us 100 mil you are just proving you dont know football so dont talk
@@jamiegreen1569where did OP say ten Haag bought Sancho? He was talking about UNITED and their BUDGET because bro in the clip said they don’t have one. Understand
@@jamiegreen1569 Antony was 100 million euros. the OP never sound pounds. So yes. Antony did cost you 100m
You don’t have blow up the fees paid to say Utd have wasted pure dough, all Utd fans know they love wasting money on players nobody else will pay!!!
United literally didn't have the budget to sign amarabat for £21m. United needed to do more than bring in these boys to catch City. Meanwhile people have also improved and probably overtaken Utd.
Anyone who thinks it takes a 1 season to fix UTD you obviously don't follow football 🔰
10000000%
Anyone who thinks ETH is a good manager, are clueless
No one is saying it will take a season. But Ten Haag was given a head start that most managers with rebuilds dont have. The players he asked for last season he got, and he's got onana, mount, amrabat, hojund. Some of his signings have been questionable too
Cry about it
@@timeisontheessence and only 2 of them played in the weekend. United problems need time to fix. We are seeing the same issues for every manager that has come to united. Even if we loose the next 10. Ten hag is still the man for the job
The desperation to protect Ten Hag is unreal. It’s embarrassing watching people totally destroy their credibility avoiding any criticism of him.
He's a 3-1 loss to Luton away from joining Ole. The players already hanging him out to dry like they did in Ole's final run
He finished 3rd, 2 finals and 1 trophy in his first season. I understand the criticism but you can't be asking for him to be sacked
Do u mean the desperation to sack him is crazy. Your being an idiot , it’s been 5 games Ofc no one with a brain is gonna call for a sacking
@@justpix44nobody is asking for him to be sacked we’re simply asking for united fans to accept constructive criticisms
You can criticise ten hag but still back him
As an Arsenal supporter, we were much worse off than Man U was/is… also, arteta didn’t get as much forgiveness from everyone else after 1 year as eth does currently… sorry 🤷🏼♂️
I’m not a arsenal fan but this is true if you match the squads up player by player the team ten hag took over is a lot better than the team arteta had. Yeah you finished 8th or whatever but you could see there was progress he was making the right decision getting rid of right players and the players he bought in improved the team I don’t see that at United
He didnt get forgiveness because he was the blueprint, now everyone says 'look how much time Arteta got'
Bruno and rashford alone made the United squad better than the arsenal side arteta came into
@@jahiem4692 yup but it doesn’t really look like eth is going to be the Man U blueprint at the moment…
@@nonder92 Nah defo not, them lot will not trust any process🤣
Ten Hag literally said: “We really looked into the history of Manchester United and we really looked also into the qualities of our players,” said Erik ten Hag before the friendly against Arsenal. “And then you can say, so what do we want to be? That is, we want to be the best transition team in the world. We want to surprise.”
I don't think Ten hags first season was a success. The fall off of Liverpool, chelsea and spurs made it look better on paper than it was. In a normal season they don't make top 4. I thought they got quite lucky with their results whenever I watched them, like wolves for example.
honestly man united really werent as impressive as people madeit out to be id argu while some players did improve i think largely most of the other teams underpreformed last season a lot
Such a weak argument as there's fall offs/surprises in every "normal season". You can only play the teams in front of you.
Lazy analysis at best
I hate United but normally for any other team to finish top 4 some teams have to drop their performance
I totally think they deserved to finish 3rd
Because they actually performed quite well last season
lol so this season is normal for liverpool because utd have dropped off
Compared ten hag and Arteta is crazy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rashfords best 2 season are when he was playing for a new contract? Yes or no?
He literally had one poor season and he came in late due to a injury that season. Dont try to push your agenda
Ange had immediate impact with a team that could barely string a few passes last season, a toxic environment under conte and a looming transfer over their star player who eventually left. Seems like all excuses coming from the United fan
ever heard of a new manager back moron? ten hag inherited a team that was united worse ever season, a dressing room that didn’t even try to play for a interim manager, a team that was leaking every week
We'll see how things go long term with Ange. You guys have had bright starts under new managers before. The real test will be when you lose a few. Always is.
Yeah, case and point- Solskjaer after beating PSG in the CL
Wtf Ange got knocked out of the second round of the league cup. 😂
yea remember Ole when he first came in?
Utd fans live the past and the irony is this is the same thing they used to accuse Liverpool fans of 😂
This new show is really exposing Brian for the lack of ball knowledge. Ten Hag won a trophy, 2 cup finals and finished 3rd. What do you mean what have you seen from this guy? Are you actually asking or you're just looking for clicks? Klopp finished 8th in his first season Arteta finished 8th, 8th n 5th before he finished 2nd. Sometimes I'm baffled how short of a memory people have 😂
Man United fan: “WERE THE BIGGEST CLUB IN ENGLAND. WE HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS”
Same Man United Fan: “why is our manager held to higher standards than Arteta ??????”
Absolutely baffling. Every time a criticism is given it “but what about arsenal/Arteta”🤣
This utd nightmare has been going on for so long I'm actually out of popcorn 🍿 😅
Just like last season and united ended up having a great season lol
Geordie has been hating on Ten Hag since day one. We have 12 or 13 first team injuries, Shaw, Bissaka, Varane, Malacia, Amrabat, Mainoo, Mount, Diallo, plus the Sancho and Antony situation, and others. Ten Hag can´t perform miracles.
Excuses FC
ten Hag said how great this squad is and that we are covered in every position
The excuses are running out for ten Hag defenders
He’s salty because Newcastle lost to united in the carabao cup final now he has an agenda
@@Reflex261 Not an agenda its the truth
Too many United fans act like a cult worshipping the manager even though they are a Glazer puppet first it was Ole not ten Hag
Since when Is mainoo a first teamer 😂
Or diallo
People need to understand that panic buying and overpaying for random players at the end august is not backing the manager. Antony was quoted as 50 million in June 2022 but they waited till the end of august after loses to Brighton & Brentford to buy him.
Casemiro, Hojlund, Amrabat, Antony… if they backed ETH then they would get their business done before preseason like Man City
£370m = 1 Trophy... That's the Banter Utd way
It's been 1 season you fool
@@jimjimerson5330 Do you think that Glazer puppet is good enough to be United manager?
@@jimjimerson5330even more embarrassing
It is really hard to win a trophy before the season begins. Your statement is only valid if he doesn’t win anything this year.
@@PickleRick235 you saying dumb stuff doesn't make them true
Arteta spend 600 mio for 2. place,Poch on 800 mio and Hag is problem LOL.
ten Hag is a Glazer puppet
@@michaelparkinsonsfreeparkerpen you mean he works for the owners of Manchester United? 😏
I’ve never seen a situation where people are so upset about a fan base backing their manager!
Other fan bases are trying so hard to create this ETH out narrative.
It's because ETH talks a lot lmao when he came in he issued a warning that City/Liverpool eras would end a new era would start...Klopp and Pep didnt even do that when they came 😂
Also he doesnt carry himself well in the media...excuses upon excuses upon excuses. Players didnt stick to the plan, we have injuries, against Arsenal he outed 3 instances of refereeing decisions that werent an issue etc.
It's also down to the United fan base who kept singing his praises...
United and their fans gotta take the heat now and just own it 😅
Cult FC worshipping a Glazer puppet as manager
Got the ownership they deserve
@@elarabymohammed1 Everything you’ve said is true and United fans have all said that he’s made mistakes…especially against Brighton!
My point is, it’s all the other fans that are upset that we are giving him time and are understanding of the size of the job.
People are trying to create a divide between United fans and it’s not working.
If he was so terrible then why wouldn’t other fans be trying to make sure he stays?
Nah sorry Man U spent more than basically everyone since Fergie left. Ten Hag finished 3rd last season with the ‘unwanted’ players. Now the team is more his players, they’re worse 😂
Guys lets just play along with the idea that ETH is not at fault. As a rival why would i want him sacked? ETH in for life. The man got Weghorst and wanted Arnautovic as well 😅
VIVA RONALDO.......SUIIIIIIII
United lost 7-0 to Liverpool under ETH. That’s all needed to say
The GLAZERS HAVEN'T SPENT A PENNY OF THEIR OWN MONEY!!! 🔰
Yes. Only signs players he worked with before, sign of a manager who either has a dodgy relationship with agents or is too cowardly to bring in new players.
And the best players would that he managed told him to chip. Fdj stayed at barca even though barca accepted a bid, onana could have gone to utd for free instead of inter, but went a year later for 50m. Gravenberch went to arch rivals liverpool.
Outside of FDJ u are talking absolute waffle.@@thedunyadoneya2628
@@thedunyadoneya2628 fdj has said barca is his dream club, why would he leave moron, ten hag wasn’t going to change united’s number 1 gk the past decade for onana in his first season, moron. gravenberch would’ve came to united but glazers have no money and offered bayern a move on loan, they couldn’t even pay 25m for amrabat who was on strike all summer and only could get a loan moron
Think he knows those players want to join his project. All the players he wanted that he hasn't worked with snubbed him/MU (nunez/Gakpo/Kim Min Jae)
More like a sign that club doesn't have proper football people in charge of recruitment unlike what he had at Ajax in Marc Overmars their former Director of Football.
As a LFC fan…the only player I like at Man Utd is Dalot…I think he’s a great player…he always works hard for the team…
Greenwood personal issues
Antony Personal issues
Sancho Form/personal issues
Bruno Fernandez absolute winge bag
Rashford inconsistent
They'll still get top 6 if not upsidedown head will get his p45
They should of gone all in for kane
And they stopped you from winning your first trophy in 68 years
This is so embarrassing. Ten Haag has had big money and time and still can't do it. End of discussion he isn't good enough
A newcastle who doesnt wanna blame utd owners, but blamed mike ashley for thier failures seems weird to me
Glazers clearly don't back Ten Hag despite giving him 300+ millions.
It's the Glazers fault Brighton completely outplayed him.
It's the Glazers fault he favorites some and calls out others and can't keep the dressing room together.
Reality is this manager said he wants the team to be the best transitional team yet bought 3 possesion based players in onana ,amrabat and hojlund ,all will likely be good but we cant pretend the manager has a clue what hes doing tbh
You misunderstand what he is saying, he wants control and possession but when United are in transition he wants them to be the best, not that hard to understand no?
Can you explain how onana and højlund aren't transitional players? I'm confused
@@csbdcsbd8728 onana is the same type of keeper as ederson ,both don't make many saves because both distribute do well in possession based teams ,that's how it works ,both thrive of possesion ,hojlund is a player that drops deep ,holds up the ball etc all the stuff a possesion based striker does ,he doesn't just "run in behind " like trashford does
@@jonnyhill1155you literally don't watch hojlund
@@mikeyL575 stop Ur hs
I’m a United fan and agree with TG, the fans are just giving him a pass every time and make us look deluded. Hope he turn things around, but don’t see it. Not enough character in this team. Almost 90% are mid-table team players.
Eric 10 hair follicles will get sacked before January.
I don't understand how "the team's not good enough" = "it's the owners fault". I'm assuming the glazers don't know anything about football and don't really interject when it comes to signings. So the fact that the squad "isn't good enough" sounds more like the fault of the previous managers who kept making poor signings. The glazers are definitely terrible owners but I don't understand the attempt to place all of the blame at their feet.
the glazers don’t get the managers their number 1 targets. ten hag wanted kim from napoli and he agreed to come but united couldn’t sign him due to money, ten hag wanted lane and couldn’t bc glazers don’t want to spend their own money, then overspend on players like antony due to incompetence bc they could’ve signed him for 50 but waited till the last week which bumped his price up massively. if you don’t know stfu m0ron
The Glazers hire the people who build the team, and none of the hires have been "best in class". Ed Woodward ran Manchester United for 10 years. Now it's John Murtaugh and Richard Arnold. None of these people have the credentials to do these jobs at the highest level. And then add to that that the facilities are literally falling apart. And that everything does have to get signed off on by like 7 glazer siblings--and yeah I think you can lay the failure of United post Sir Alex firmly at the feet of owners who do not care and have allowed rot to settle in. United will never win another league title as long as their owners are the Glazers. That is simply a fact.
@@mercurialblonde and that all makes sense. My point is that I'm only hearing Man U fans blame the owners and not the managers who brought the players in. A bad board of directors can hire a bad CEO but that doesn't absolve the CEO from responsibility for the bad decisions they made during their tenure.
@@PookieMax The point is that the Managers shouldn't be bringing in most of the players to begin with. That is meant be the job of the Director of Football and entire recruitment team working under them like it is virtually every other club in Europe for many many years and the Premier League for almost a decade. United quite simply still live in dinosaur land employing non football people to oversee recruitment which is why all their Managers particularly LVG, Mourinho and now Ten-Hag keep stepping in and having a much bigger say in it than they should. Someone like Marc Overmars and Edwin Van Der Sar would help solve that problem immensely.
True Geordie is Being Wilfully disingenuous.
There are so many egos at United. Brighton have none. It makes it so much easier for a manager to implement their game plan
Names top mangers doesn’t mention Klopp 😂 still salty 🤫
5 games in and youtubers calling United fans 'delusional' for backing their manager.
Arteta literally finished 8th twice and didn't get this much criticism
Compare the squads big fella
Arteta didn't have Casemiro, Varane in the squad. He didn't get to spend 300 mil on his players in his first 2 season. Arteta had to sign Cedric, Mari on loan, William on a free. Then he finished 8th on his full season. And went on to buy White, Ramsdale, Odegard. Ten Haag has bought his players but still playing Ole Ball in Old Trafford. With Ten Haag's experience, he should be doing better, atleast have his identity on the way they play.
It's not about the 300 million though is it
I cannot believe that this guy’s got the nerve to say United were worse than the Arsenal team of 2020 🤣🤣🤣 Mustafi, Sokratis, David Luiz, Torreira, AMN vs the most expensive squad ever assembled 😭😭 get this guy off the panel ffs
Yeah if anyone seriously rates the knowledge of this panel then i serious question a person's intellect, the issues are so deep rooted and been there every manager yet somehow the manager will always be at fault
The manager chose to be a Glazer puppet
The kick off will say “it will take more than a season to fix this”
A season later when problems arise “THE MANAGER NEEDS TO GO”
Just how long are we gonna keep acting like they know what they are talking about. It’s like watching those kids from football twitter talk but they are grown men
@@flickfellas9424 The manager also needs to be good enough and ten Hag isn't
When Arteta won the FA Cup he had the likes of Pepe, Luiz, Kolasnoic, Rob Holding, Sokratis, Bellerin, Maintland Niles, Xhaka (as a holding midfielder) and Lacazette as regular starters.
Luiz was too bad but th3 only great player (before falling off a cliff) was Auba.
The likes of Saka and Martinelli were only babies (Saka was mainly playing LB under Emery) . His first transfer window was Cedric and Panlo Mari
There is no comparion between that and what Ten Hag started with.
In fact what happened to Casemiro being the best CDM in the world or Martinez being the best CB?
Facts 😂
when man utd fans can't win on the pitch. They love to say they had it worse than other clubs to discredit other clubs success from dealing their own turmoil 😂
Sad club and fanbase tbh
To sit there with a straight face and say that Ten Hag inherited a worse squad than Arteta is shameful honestly😂
The lengths these United fans go to defend the man is unbelievable, the delusion knows no bounds
I’m a United fan, Ole Gunnar Solskjær is a better manager than Ten Hag
ETH beat Eddie Howe in the Final 😂
United fans cry about unavailable players, yet bring this up like howe didnt have to play his 3rd choice keeper.
@@thedunyadoneya2628 3rd choice keeper 🤣 yeah OK 👍
@thedunyadoneya2628 resorting I think you mean 😏
Trashford and Bruno NOT good enough
Ten Hag's first squad was so much better than Arteta's. And then he spent like 450m on top of that and got worse. Also, the United fan is wrong referring to switching out Ramsdale for Raya as "making mistakes". Arteta is going to use both keepers through the season depending on what the team needs for that specific game. Ramsdale is not a mistake and Raya is not a mistake
United are worse right now because of an injury/selection crisis. Which if anything, shows how thin the squad is still.
He bought raya because he doesn't trust ramsdale, which means his signing was a mistake
@@guilhermevieira6010 that's just not true at all
@@TheLizardKingC that's obviously true, you don't see liverpool, man city, barcelona... signing GKs to bring competition, you're just in denial.
I'm a united fan and I can tell you Ten Hag is not implementing "Ten Hag Ball" this season and if he is then I had a complete misunderstanding of Ten Hag Ball 😂. This season so far we've looked the same, no tactics, no plan and unfortunately that lies on the manager. Up until the injuries last season we had a plan. But since then we don't. We held on last season and barely secured 3rd. Thought we'd kick off strong this season, but we're back facing injuries because someone had a bright idea to do a MASSIVE preseason, anything we worked on in preseason has been thrown out the window. The recruitments been poor, the preparations been poor, we are a poor run club and alot needs to change. But as Geordie said, Ten Hag should be doing better and he has alot to prove now
tottenham and brighton have new managers ,
play new football straight away,
go figure
It did take RDZ 6 matches to get a win tbf
@@krisphackett6855 but u know they style of football, do u know united😉
Let me tell you something. 5yrs running we’ve seen the same literally the same mentality and culture at my club. Over 5 managers have all had players in this club down tools and play horribly. So you can’t tell me that “oh Arteta oh Zerbi oh no Pep” bro our club turns players into wealthy snobs. Ten Hag is doing what Sir Alex did when he came….uprooting and causing an upset
Mediocrity has been allowed to breathe within United due to the Glazers negligence and lack of want to drive Man Utd back to the top. Ten Hag feels like a footnote where no matter what he does he will fail. The Utd facilities are behind Liverpool, City, Spurs and Arsenal so expecting them to compete is unrealistic as the ability to recover is nowhere near. They have a stadium which is crumbling whilst Anfield, The Emirates and Spurs’s ground are an example of progressive management which Utd have lacked on the pitch with their managers and have lacked off the pitch with Ed Woodward and Richard Arnold. They have become consumed by issue after issue
Smartest comment I’ve seen here so far. Thank you. If ppl can look past bants, they will understand exactly what is going on but I guess that’s the modern football fan
Also you guys still don't employ football people to run the recruitment process which would do a great deal to mitigate so many of the massive issues in the transfer market and allow the Manager to focus a lot more on developing the team as they mostly trust a good Director of Football to take care of what is needed like most clubs in Europe have doing for so many years.
The irony of geordie not taking the owners into account when he blamed Ashley for his bang average Newcastle for years
The problem was, is and will be is that during the Fergie time the standards were set so high that now neither ManU fans nor pundits have a realistic view how hard it is to change a mentality of the whole club.. look at Arteta and Klopp.. now they are successful but how long did they need to make the turn?! patience guys
Boohoo Manure
You can't ignore last season, remember the Glazers are still in control
Ten Hag has had a target on his back since day one.
1) He wasn't the media/pundits choice (they all thought Pochettino would have been better)
2) People questioned if he was good enough after the first two games of last season (people like Jamie Carragher making jokes about EtH being 'Eric ten months').
3) His transfers have been questioned ('Martinez too small', 'Antony not good enough' etc.)
4) He got questioned by Gary Neville when he made the team run 10km after the first two defeats of last season
5) He got criticised on how he handled the Cristiano Ronaldo situation (both in pre-season and during the season)
5) Criticism of the Sancho situation this season (when we've seen worse public criticism of players from Arteta on Aubameyang, Pep on Kalvin Phillips etc.)
6) Some fans starting to switch on him from the back end of last season (while they were prepare to give Ole time with less credentials based on his playing career)
While he's not been perfect since he's got here, he deserve time to get it right.
United fans also need to stick together and stop being swayed by pundits/player power and the media, who revel in seeing United falter over and over again because it makes headlines and sells papers.
Even a rival fan how in the world can anyone question Martinez been "small" when quite a lot of great defenders have been small. One in particular named Franco Baresi who is considered one of if not the greatest defender of all time.
He needs to be held to higher standards. He benched Rashford for being late 45 seconds to a meeting. The Sancho situation should have been held differently. He brought in Ronaldo at the 88th minute of the game. He mishandled De Gea and McGuire situations. He’s a petty. He acts like a disciplinarian but he should focus on performance instead of attendance. He would never been able to manage big personalities like Cantona
L take
@@tomtomtombossahe mishandled de gea? He wasn't the one that agreed a new deal with de gea and then changed it.
@@mikeyL575 Onana. Say his name
A midfield of Casemiro, Tonali and Guimaraes would be insane
Nice seeing Geordie back
Surely it's obvious to people that the culture at Man United is rotten from the top, with the Glazers. The number of good managers that have gone to that club and failed yet people have decided that each of them was the problem. A club like United needs consistency. It needs a vision and time for that vision to be realised. My advice to United fans is Give Ten Hag time, have faith in him, buy into the project. If anyone needs to leave it's the Glazers and others at the top who care about nothing but their personal financial gain. From a Liverpool fan.
Before every derby they have the best players, after every loss they dont have the right players😂😂
Have you ever considered that maybe it's because they have 10 players injuried?
@@guilhermevieira6010 why do 90% of utd fans say that its the glazers fault than, did they tackle them in training or something
@@meti4165 No, but they forced the team to play too many games, to make too many travels, to have little rest... in pre season in order to get more money and that resulted in bad fitness for the season and therefore a lot of injuries. It's so obvious, how did you not know that?
@@guilhermevieira6010 sorry I didnt know that your team had a pre season mine didnt so it slipped my mind
@@meti4165 yeah how could anybody know that pre season matters to how you start a season, right?
Again bashing a manager 5 games into a season, we have a full team out injured, massive off field issues. First manager since SAF to finish in top 4 and win a trophy. Lost count how many times I've said managers need time, how can you expect things to get any better if we just changeal managers every couple of seasons
So Mourinho was cooking maize at Man Utd
Mourinho didn't finish top 4 and win a trophy. He finished 2nd and won League Cup & Europa in separate seasons. Then in standard Mourinho fashion it exploded. ETH should be a long term manager not a stop gap like Mourinho is, he's only brought in to win trophies in a short term.
@@Brettson87why should ETH be allowed to be long term if he's gonna make mistake after mistake ,if he can spend 400m and not introduce a play style then he's a flop
@@jonnyhill1155 because changing manager after manager hasn't worked yet. Despite winning a trophy and getting 3rd place everyone is calling for his head 5 games into a season, utter nonsense
MAN U deserves this. the problem was never David D Hea. the disrespect he got is insane, he saved them on so many occasions and they wasted money on a new GK lmao
I think we dhould all keep a level head after just giv4 games but i knoe thats not how the average football fan brain works
I love how TG keeps saying the team inherited is worth a billion, when so much of that billion is so poorly used. 80m of that billion is literally from Maguire, a player that TG will not hesitate to speak about how bad he is. So ETH inherited a billion pound squad and had a headstart compared to managers like Arteta, but some of those players (Maguire) aren't good enough to play in the premier league (according to TG). That doesn't make sense
Lowkey I want to see Ferguson just come back and see what he can do with this squad it’ll be interesting
AS MUCH AS I LOVE KG’s VIBES, He is a Deluded clueless United fan. Like TY from AFTV. The manager is indefensible, GET RID NOW. And who are all these technical players that we have? Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho, Mctominay, Mount, Malacia, Bissaka ?? They cannot keep the ball for 5 seconds between them. Our only technical players are Licha, Shaw, Sancho, Martial, Eriksen, Pellistri, Amad and most of them are not rated by the manager.
muppets....ten hags 'system' is reliant upon a ball playing GK, A connector number 6 and a focal point number nine....and guess what? he only just signed those three profiles....onana, amrabat and Hoijlund......and two of them turned up injured.
KG is both right about the environment at man utd being horrible but he is willing to label man utd players as average just so ETH could get a pass?? Man utd have a lot of great players! Onana, Martinez, Shaw, Bruno, Rashford at least are among the best in their position and then you got good players like Casemiro, Eriksen Bissaka, Dalot, Mount then you have promising youngsters like Garnacho and Hojlund...
Arsenal had Mustafi, Sokratis, Niles, Luiz, Kolasinac, Guendouzi, Willock, Bellerin when Arteta took over 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ also it was his first managerial job ever...
This is fantastic, KG just said their squad is not good enough, yet Sancho is earning 350k a week, therein lies the problem, mediocre at best but they over pay to sign players, Kg iffy on Onana lol, Blame the Glazzers lmao, long may this continue, simply love it Man U in the mud, Bruno is overhyped but too petulant and a total nag and moaner, imagine signing Evans, but old boy Danny Welbeck who I think played with Evans at Man U, comes back and bites them 😂😂😂😂, their wages are too high for mediocre players so can't move them on to teams who can't afford them but want them, who's fault only have your self's to blame!!!!!!
Brighten up United fans drink some seven up hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha finished club
Will this guy ever stop talking about United… there’s other clubs out there
Carabao cup final loss seems to have hurt 😅
why are man u fans so deluded..?? They keep saying last year was a success because of them being 3rd, and 2 cup finals. BUT they forget WHY they became 3rd. They didn't do it because THEY were good, They did it because other teams stunk the place out.. Tottenham, liverpool (most of the season), chelsea... when they get better this season AND adding broghton, newcastle and maybe even villa.. united are somewhere around 8th.. and that is probably where they should be with the squad they have right now.. face it.
Im not a Man Utd fan but talk of how much theyve spent this season is a bit ridiculous if you actually look at it. Chelsea have spend 225m on two Midfielders, Arsenal spent £170m on two Midfielders. Utd spent 150m on 3 players. They bought 3 players who were available. Onana was the only one they actually wanted. Hojland looks like he might become a really good striker, time will tell, but they wanted Kane. Mount is a good player, but he was available at a decent price, thats it, they wanted Bellingham or Rice. None of these players were in their price range. The richest club in the world and they can afford to buy players. Thats an issue that flows right through the wages of players they cant move on, the recruitment mistakes paying massive amounts for them. How much did Maguire, Antony and Sancho cost? Theres mistakes there too, Mount for 60 when Maddison moved for 40. Easy to call in hindsight, but hes not the first, Trippier, theres others. There squad isnt good enough, Bruno is no where near the level of Odegaard or KDB. If these players were all playing across teams around Utd in the league, how many are top teams, the teams Ut want to compete against, how many players are they looking to steal of a Palace or Fulham? Rashford, Garnacho, Shaw, Martinez, thats about it. Bruno might be the guy when your there, but he ent the guy to get you there. The whole club is rotten, the only things that have changed in 10 years are the managers and players, everythings rotten. The culture, mentality of the players, recruitment, ownership, facilities, Stadium. Why sack Ten Hag at this point. They might as well have him as the control. Change some other things first. This is gonna take 4 or 5 years, a lot of money and a lot of change
I’m astounded to what I’m listening to. I’ve never heard a room of so called experts who do not understand the subject matter they are discussing.
This is a 10 decline gentlemen; ETH has inherited squad of players who are not fit for purpose from 4 previous managers. Even Sir Alex took a while to get up to speed. Check out Peps first season or Klopps! It seems you guys do not really understand the process of empire building! This takes time
The reason we were successful last season and not the start of this season is FITNESS. We had a stupidly organised pre-season in america after an intensive 60 game season - 3 games a week. We got to every final possible, and played every game possible, the timetable did not suit united, we at times had 1.5 days between fixtures. The players aren't tracking back because they are exhausted. As a result many of our squad are also injured. You can argue that City obviously played every game, well they have a much better squad because they spend cleverly and have great players on the bench
I sincerely hope everyone who thinks the way KG does can watch this and just sits down... Stop making excuses, and admit there's an issue. This is not saying abandoned ship, this is not saying ETH Out. The problem is you can't pick and choose what factors matter.
Arsenal had mustafi, luiz, kolasinac, holding, chambers, bellerin, Tierney and SAKA as our defensive options 😂 stop chattin we were a lot worse than united were
“I’d take Rashford out” 😂😂 that’s flipping blasphemous. Take Rashford out & what would United be, not even worth thinking about
Arteta took his time and we wanted him out for ages, it may be the case for Ten Haag too
Arteta isn't the blueprint
@@thecontextual1one411 just saying, we hound managers too easily. Ten hag won a cup and got to a final and got champs league football back, not too bad, plus a host of injuries this season, it’s not been that easy. Not that I’m a fan of United, hate the fuckers 😂
Bang🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
As a man utd fan, the geordie NAILED it.
Eth relies on Bruno and Rashford
Not a system
I thought he was brought in to develop that.
Not enjoying Eth *at all*
that arteta team had mustafi kolasinac holding cedric sokratis bellerin Mavropanos Chambers Marí Ainsley David Luiz as his back 4 option I want that KG guy to stop speaking about football
Utd fans spent the whole summer twerking for the same oil money they hated City for is simply embarrassing.
GLAZERS IN ❤
Spurs was a counterattacking team with no idea what to do in possession for over 2 seasons, since potch left really. And in one preseason and one transfer window, they spend 100mil and suddenly play with the ball and you can see what they wanna do. Ten Hag have had what 2-3 windows now, with the spending power United have and still no result. U cant see a shed of Identity, I'm sorry but its poor and to me, it looks like Ten hag doesn't have what it takes.
Longevity is the key to success the two most successful managers in the league are guardiola and Klopp.
This time last year Graham potter was the next big thing in world football. Now he’d be lucky too get a bottom 6 job.
De Zerbi is now the best manager ever after a year.
Give it time and see how ten hag handles the pressure
Tbh utd have been underwhelming this season. As a Chelsea fan I know Chelsea have been underwhelming compared to what we have played. United have not been playing well at all. If you ask me the Chelsea system is starting to work. But at united the basic system is rashford and Bruno
7:0, 5-1 losses to Liverpool worst record against top 9 teams
Terrible going away, ostracized several players, handles the greenwood situation terribly should have put stronger case forward to get rid of him
And now the worst start ever
We have “regressed” because of injuries, a ridiculous preseason schedule with too much travel (not Ten Hag who plans that), and a change in style of play. United will get Bayern out of the way and then win 6 in a row to shut up this ridiculous narrative.
I’m so sick of these man United fans moaning about the glazers. They ain’t going anywhere shut up about it and deal with it , we are absolutely sick of you lot bringing it up every time you lose , last time I checked they aren’t the coaching staff and the players , a few weeks ago you lot were claiming Bruno was better than kdb 😂
Why don't we as man united embrace our counter attacking? Ill never understand that. I dont give a fuck if we have 20% possession if we score 2-nil ill take that every fuckin day
Ten Hag is a great manager but an autist at the same time. Has a genius view on football but he doesnt have the power at United. There is a different culture there. Ajax has the right culture for Ten Hags philosophy. United doesnt. Trust me, i'm a Dutchie.