Thank you so much for posting this video!! Susan Haskell is and always will be Marty Saybrooke!!!! CC should have been casted as another character and the entire storyline should have been held untill Susan could come back after her pregnancy!!
I'm 23 years old. I started watching when I was in 3rd grade. I was sick at one point for a month or so and started watching right during the Marty Saybrooke rape trial because my sick grandpa would watch all the abc soaps from 12-4. I got hooked. Because OLTL was so well written and more of a "mystery" as my mom passed it off to my dad (instead of "smut" as he called it) my mom would set the vcr to tape at 2pm every day I was at school. And now I do have a job...its called Tivo LOL
Oh, My God. She's doing the "HMMM" thing that NuMarty does all the time. That's just wierd. Also thanks for posting this to remind everyone that Marty is totally *NOT* out for revenge on Todd , no matter how much the show tries to rewrite it as such.
ohh well some people dont have the luxury of having a tivo like yourself. How lovely that your a NYC theatre actor must be exciting. You seem pretty busy how nice for you.
I am still totally freaked out by it! LOL. I hate the "hmmm" thing so much. Hey are you going to post the rest of Martys testimony and her interaction with Todd from this storyline? I would love to see it!
Susan Haskell's performance in this scene is the perfect example of why OLTL needs her back in the role of Marty. No disrespect towards the new actress, but she could never fill these shoes.
@candyabble i totally agree with u about the way they always make marty dwell on the rape. yes, i know that rape does scar a person forever, but it's like they forget all the things todd did after like saving her life, and taking several bullets for her beloved patrick. yes, todd was a bastard but i think they just brought sh back to relive the keg house rape over and over again. todd hates himself for what he did in those days, but they don't see that.
To be fair, SH played Marty for 5 years and the rape storyline was her biggest storyline with her best performances always having to do with this particular storyline. Getting up on the stand and talking about the rape is second nature to SH. I didn't expect ANYONE to compare to SH's Marty but I'm pleased with CC. I really like CC's scenes with Cole, Nora, Miles (when they were on good terms).
They don't show it in this episode but there are definite rape scenes. It was a huge storyline back in 1993. I believe there are some clips of it here on youtube
It's a trust issue. Imagine you have no memory. Memories of your trust are gone. So the first person you have any memory of trusting all of these months turns out to have withheld information about... Her son Her friends Her boyfriend Her past All for (as he recently admitted) his selfish reasons. Even he admits that under her mental circumstances it technically counts as rape. So yea I can kind of see why the woman is feeling pretty messed up these days, and I don't know why no 1 gets it
Of course dear. In fact I tend to sympathize with Todd's character quite a bit (with a few obvious exceptions) of course. I do know what it's like however to be a young man seperated from his mother. The fact that Todd withheld a child from his mother, just sets something off in me.
i hope so. i dont really mean shes weird... shes just... not marty. this is marty. i hope she finds out the truth and blows up at him. i would LOVE to see that.
well thank you :) No I have no idea where that scene is I dont even think I seen that scene before. If you knew the date of it you could probably figure it out that way.
I don't understand why they felt the need to go back to a previous story that shouldn't have even happened? I think tsj and cd are terrific actors but the story i don't like.
couldn't agree more... but it doesn't look like it is. did you see the spoilers for next week? i think they aired last night on soap net. todd and marty.... i almost puked. and that was just the preview!
I have watched it every day since 1994. I'm not saying that Marty's behavior was correct. I'm not saying it's responsible behavior. But the problem is she's been on the warpath ever since and soley BECAUSE of what happened to her following her accident involving the van. Had Todd brought her home from the start, her focus wouldn't be on getting even with Todd 24/7 but she would have been more focused on her recovery rather than her vendetta.
Yes soapunk I see that. I do appreciate that the NuMarty is trying to act like Susan Haskell's potrayal of Marty but I think CC should take the character and make it her own because her trying to act like SH just keeps reminding me that she is soooo NOT her. SH really raised the bar and I personally don't expect anybody to compare.
I totally agree! The whole town is always against Todd and its sickening. He didnt force her to do anything he just lied to her which I never knew was a crime but I guess Nora thinks it is, their are some people who think it was rape again because she has amnesia but I dont agree with them. I cant stand Marty anymore she treats him like crap and tried to get him to kill himself. She does hate herself for sleeping with him because she knows she fell in love but shes just takin it out on him.
yeah I know what you mean Martys rage is just insane does she not remember how he cared for her all those months, if it wasnt for him she still wouldnt be able to walk. And no he didnt rape her again but she has sooo much rage for him and everyone I cant stand her anymore and she keeps pushing everyone away, and how she tried to have Todd kill himself thats just wrongg on so many levels.
oh really I dont remember seeing that scene. I just wish they would stop always attaching the word "rape" to him. It follows him everywhere, he was raped by his dad and Margaret, he raped Marty, and then he was accused of raping Blair and raping Marty again its just sickening.
@KnowingsHalfDaBattle She's dead to me since they brought back Susancan'tdoastorylineunlessitinvolvesrapeandtoddHaskell. But as far as I know, Marty is still on the show. I haven't watched in years though.
do you even watch One Life to Live? Marty is totally not doing anything to try and get to know Cole she avoids him and doesnt want to spend any time with him. She would rather party then spend time with her son. I know she has amnesia and everything but it doesnt seem like she even tries. I know what Todd did was wrong but I do see why he thought he was doing the right thing in his own twisted mind. Hopefully one day he will get the proper help that he needs.
@Rosannasfriend the point in my comment was that Susan's best performance was the whole rape storyline...so that's why they keep bringing it up...that's why they wrote the stupid todd/marty faux romance/rape. i don't see what's so great about her. i did watch oltl back in those days...and i looked at clips on youtube from those days and that's all they had marty do since the rape is talk about it, wimper and whine. and i never said she HAD to forgive him.
@mallen1978 I actually don't care about seeing the "good" in Todd. I prefer him as the bastard that he is. He's much more interesting that way, to me, and its fictional so I don't mind how evil he gets. At least he's dynamic and is allowed to show both an evil side and some anity. With SH as Marty its like they don't know what to do with her if she not talking about rape or being miserable. It started getting boring when she first left with Patrick in the 90's. And its still boring.
you have watched every single day since 1994 how is that possible? dont you have a job or something? hmmm well you make a good point but I still like Todd more lol. John is like her little pet lately always at her side no matter what makes me sick sometimes but what can ya do?
@penguinqueen1415 What are you talking about? Marty can go back and forth...there are days where she forgives hima nd days where she cant..he didnt hit the bumper of ehr car,.,..he raped her! it isnt black and white...and what does Marty having problems have to do with being a therapist? you are all over the place!
I cant stand Nora! She sucks at being DA if you guys are watching the show lately you will agree with me. And I cant stand Marty anymore either she is self destructive and rude and mean to everyone in that town. I used to like her but now not at all. Gosh I wish she would leave the town. And it sucks that everyone in that town keeps using the word "rape" yes he raped 15 yrs ago but he wouldnt do it again and people need to try and move on and stop saying that word todd has to live with that 4eve
Thank you so much for posting this video!! Susan Haskell is and always will be Marty Saybrooke!!!! CC should have been casted as another character and the entire storyline should have been held untill Susan could come back after her pregnancy!!
I'm 23 years old. I started watching when I was in 3rd grade. I was sick at one point for a month or so and started watching right during the Marty Saybrooke rape trial because my sick grandpa would watch all the abc soaps from 12-4. I got hooked.
Because OLTL was so well written and more of a "mystery" as my mom passed it off to my dad (instead of "smut" as he called it) my mom would set the vcr to tape at 2pm every day I was at school.
And now I do have a job...its called Tivo LOL
The writers through this period went through a phase of glorifiying and obsessing over rape, letting it define too many characters on the show.
Oh, My God. She's doing the "HMMM" thing that NuMarty does all the time. That's just wierd. Also thanks for posting this to remind everyone that Marty is totally *NOT* out for revenge on Todd , no matter how much the show tries to rewrite it as such.
ohh well some people dont have the luxury of having a tivo like yourself. How lovely that your a NYC theatre actor must be exciting. You seem pretty busy how nice for you.
Nora ONLY cares about punishing Todd, no matter who has to suffer... she's going after Starr next!
I am still totally freaked out by it! LOL. I hate the "hmmm" thing so much. Hey are you going to post the rest of Martys testimony and her interaction with Todd from this storyline? I would love to see it!
I agree with you, 1000%
Does anyone know if the scene after this (it appears that Marty goes to talk to Todd in jail) is it here on youtube?
I always thought the cross represented Marty's hope for Todd's redemption. I thought it was beautiful.
I don't think she went back to hating him until she saw him strangling her son
This is a perfect example of why we need Susan to return as Marty!!!
Susan Haskell's performance in this scene is the perfect example of why OLTL needs her back in the role of Marty. No disrespect towards the new actress, but she could never fill these shoes.
@candyabble i totally agree with u about the way they always make marty dwell on the rape. yes, i know that rape does scar a person forever, but it's like they forget all the things todd did after like saving her life, and taking several bullets for her beloved patrick. yes, todd was a bastard but i think they just brought sh back to relive the keg house rape over and over again. todd hates himself for what he did in those days, but they don't see that.
That's good because I wanted to see some clips of them. Loved them as a couple.
To be fair, SH played Marty for 5 years and the rape storyline was her biggest storyline with her best performances always having to do with this particular storyline. Getting up on the stand and talking about the rape is second nature to SH. I didn't expect ANYONE to compare to SH's Marty but I'm pleased with CC. I really like CC's scenes with Cole, Nora, Miles (when they were on good terms).
They don't show it in this episode but there are definite rape scenes. It was a huge storyline back in 1993. I believe there are some clips of it here on youtube
It's a trust issue. Imagine you have no memory. Memories of your trust are gone. So the first person you have any memory of trusting all of these months turns out to have withheld information about...
Her son
Her friends
Her boyfriend
Her past
All for (as he recently admitted) his selfish reasons. Even he admits that under her mental circumstances it technically counts as rape.
So yea I can kind of see why the woman is feeling pretty messed up these days, and I don't know why no 1 gets it
omg.. i feel so sorry for marty in this clip.. that was so cruel that todd did that to her..
I do. I was just watching some. I'll start posting them in the upcoming weeks...hopefully.
Of course dear. In fact I tend to sympathize with Todd's character quite a bit (with a few obvious exceptions) of course. I do know what it's like however to be a young man seperated from his mother. The fact that Todd withheld a child from his mother, just sets something off in me.
I dont know everyone has different opinions about it. I cant understand where Todd was coming from and you can understand where Marty is coming from.
i hope so. i dont really mean shes weird... shes just... not marty. this is marty. i hope she finds out the truth and blows up at him. i would LOVE to see that.
well thank you :) No I have no idea where that scene is I dont even think I seen that scene before. If you knew the date of it you could probably figure it out that way.
this is the only Marty for me
I hate the current one
PS I'm a NYC theatre actor so I've actually met some of the people from the show. Dream!!!!
But while I work my day job I tivo.
I love Susan Haskell, she just blew my mind in 3 minutes. Damn.
I don't understand why they felt the need to go back to a previous story that shouldn't have even happened? I think tsj and cd are terrific actors but the story i don't like.
couldn't agree more... but it doesn't look like it is. did you see the spoilers for next week? i think they aired last night on soap net. todd and marty.... i almost puked. and that was just the preview!
I have watched it every day since 1994.
I'm not saying that Marty's behavior was correct. I'm not saying it's responsible behavior. But the problem is she's been on the warpath ever since and soley BECAUSE of what happened to her following her accident involving the van.
Had Todd brought her home from the start, her focus wouldn't be on getting even with Todd 24/7 but she would have been more focused on her recovery rather than her vendetta.
Yes soapunk I see that. I do appreciate that the NuMarty is trying to act like Susan Haskell's potrayal of Marty but I think CC should take the character and make it her own because her trying to act like SH just keeps reminding me that she is soooo NOT her. SH really raised the bar and I personally don't expect anybody to compare.
now this is the marty i like! marty with amnesia is just plain weird. she has no personality. and seeing her with todd makes me sick.
Eh, its a tradeoff.
I didn't have tivo for the longest time, I would just set my vcr for it and watch it later that night. We just got it this year.
@candyabble is marty dead??
I'm sorry, but I would never help someone who raped me.
So I was wrong. CC made an awesome Marty!
I totally agree! The whole town is always against Todd and its sickening. He didnt force her to do anything he just lied to her which I never knew was a crime but I guess Nora thinks it is, their are some people who think it was rape again because she has amnesia but I dont agree with them. I cant stand Marty anymore she treats him like crap and tried to get him to kill himself. She does hate herself for sleeping with him because she knows she fell in love but shes just takin it out on him.
It was a second rape. He manipulated her and lied to get what he wanted. It was a second violation
Susan Haskell=one of the best!
Susan Haskell will always be Marty to me. Her testifying for Todd seemed dumb to me.
yeah I know what you mean Martys rage is just insane does she not remember how he cared for her all those months, if it wasnt for him she still wouldnt be able to walk. And no he didnt rape her again but she has sooo much rage for him and everyone I cant stand her anymore and she keeps pushing everyone away, and how she tried to have Todd kill himself thats just wrongg on so many levels.
oh really I dont remember seeing that scene. I just wish they would stop always attaching the word "rape" to him. It follows him everywhere, he was raped by his dad and Margaret, he raped Marty, and then he was accused of raping Blair and raping Marty again its just sickening.
RHfan75 has it. Look for the Spring Fling.
@KnowingsHalfDaBattle
She's dead to me since they brought back Susancan'tdoastorylineunlessitinvolvesrapeandtoddHaskell. But as far as I know, Marty is still on the show. I haven't watched in years though.
do you even watch One Life to Live? Marty is totally not doing anything to try and get to know Cole she avoids him and doesnt want to spend any time with him. She would rather party then spend time with her son. I know she has amnesia and everything but it doesnt seem like she even tries. I know what Todd did was wrong but I do see why he thought he was doing the right thing in his own twisted mind. Hopefully one day he will get the proper help that he needs.
Yes that was bad as well.
February 25, 2004
@Rosannasfriend the point in my comment was that Susan's best performance was the whole rape storyline...so that's why they keep bringing it up...that's why they wrote the stupid todd/marty faux romance/rape. i don't see what's so great about her. i did watch oltl back in those days...and i looked at clips on youtube from those days and that's all they had marty do since the rape is talk about it, wimper and whine. and i never said she HAD to forgive him.
@mallen1978 I actually don't care about seeing the "good" in Todd. I prefer him as the bastard that he is. He's much more interesting that way, to me, and its fictional so I don't mind how evil he gets. At least he's dynamic and is allowed to show both an evil side and some anity. With SH as Marty its like they don't know what to do with her if she not talking about rape or being miserable. It started getting boring when she first left with Patrick in the 90's. And its still boring.
Is marty dead?
you have watched every single day since 1994 how is that possible? dont you have a job or something? hmmm well you make a good point but I still like Todd more lol. John is like her little pet lately always at her side no matter what makes me sick sometimes but what can ya do?
@penguinqueen1415 What are you talking about? Marty can go back and forth...there are days where she forgives hima nd days where she cant..he didnt hit the bumper of ehr car,.,..he raped her! it isnt black and white...and what does Marty having problems have to do with being a therapist? you are all over the place!
I HATED when Marty did stuff for Todd. I think the most disgusting thing for me was when she gave him that celtic cross. WHY!
Maybe because he came all the way to Ireland to help her with her boyfriend and help save his life and put his own right life at risk doing so?
I cant stand Nora! She sucks at being DA if you guys are watching the show lately you will agree with me. And I cant stand Marty anymore either she is self destructive and rude and mean to everyone in that town. I used to like her but now not at all. Gosh I wish she would leave the town. And it sucks that everyone in that town keeps using the word "rape" yes he raped 15 yrs ago but he wouldnt do it again and people need to try and move on and stop saying that word todd has to live with that 4eve