A Critique of Star Trek Discovery - Part 2
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Part 2 of our critique of Star Trek Discovery goes through episodes 9 and 10 of season 4, with a focus on the writing, the plot and the characterisation, in a bid to show why - even if you agree with the show's messaging and ideology - it is nonetheless objectively bad.
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Timestamps
Intro - What's Wrong with CBS? 00:00 - 05:20
The Critique Awakens: 05:20 - 08:52
Episode 8 - The Plot Begins: 08:53 - 28:17
Episode 9 - The Plot Gets Worse: 28:18 - 52:15
Outro: 52:16 - 56:01
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I always watch these with captions. I'm enjoying when "morally Dubious Character" translates as "Marley Jubilee's Character". It adds a nuances of absurdity that is like icing on the cake of absurdity that is STD.
I’m now toying with the idea of doing a blooper reel at the close of part 3 where I read lines from the captions instead of lines from the script.
@@TheLittlePlatoon that would be amazing
Slightly off topic, but I was watching a true crime interview or something similar and when the lady started crying the captions only had this to say: applause 👏
it was so unexpectedly morbid 😂
Isnt it ironic that the show can be shortened to std. Ah i love it
I think people are people 🤔 😊
I love the interview with Leonard explaining where the Vulcan nerve pinch came from.
That Nimoy clip was phenomenal!
What makes the Vulcan grip work is the bombastic absurdity of other violence especially things like kirk's double punch and the silly martial arts. It makes the Vulcan grip even more refined looking
I was geeking out - so _that's_ how the Vulcan Pinch was born! I was further dazzled by how intelligent Nimoy's explanations were.
So stupid that the interviewer insisted that the Vulcan Nerve Pitch was still a form of violence (which Nimoy - diplomatically - acknowledged and affirmed). It was never explicitly stated, but by all appearances, the VNP is totally harmless, and produces absolutely no injury to the person to which it is applied - quite different than a crack to the skull!
It's wonderful to imagine a time when actors were actually very thoughtful about a great many things. Leonard Nimoy was positively captivating in that interview! Cheers!
@@nickdarr7328 And it fits the rational and cool-headed character of Spock really well. He is efficient and straight to the point, no need for violence when one nerve pinch do the job. That is the character building modern Trek had forgotten.
25:55 I realized why Book is convinced here when he wasn’t before, even without any new information:
He’s like an Austin Powers character (the one played by Will Farrell), who will answer any question as long as you ask three times.
“Where is Dr. Evil’s secret lair?”
“I spit upon you!”
“Where is Dr. Evil’s secret lair?”
“I will take it to my grave!”
“Where is Dr. Evil’s secret lair?”
“Let me draw you a map.”
That interview clip of Spock you included has convinced me to watch Star Trek. An actor who not only has substantive opinions, but can describe them eloquently? It’s almost too good to be true!
i was happier for this premier than the trailer or announcement of "strange new world" because i appreciate effort and salient writing.
the first episode was insufferable already
I had "programable anti-matter" in an X-men fan fic I wrote when I was 18 (I'm 42 now) even then it didn't work, and I ended up scrapping the whole concept
If they can "programable anti-matter" , They might as well just get Space Jesus to rewind the big bang, create the universe so its "truly representative of how we all live today". I think this is what they are building up to.
Been there, did similar things. I kind of miss those days (37 here)… ^^;
I don’t know how you pulled that insanely relevant interview clip of Nimoy, but that takes some serious skill
I had stopped watching after Season 3, and particularly when the Season 4 trailer had made it very clear that the show would not improve or change direction. Instead I’m catching up via reviews from other people and I’m very glad for your videos on this. A couple of hours well spent, instead of 10+ hours of watching Space Poochie being the cause of and solution to, all of life’s problems. Thank you.
Apparently sparing people from actually having to watch this show is my biggest contribution to good in the world!
@@TheLittlePlatoon It’s no small thing. It had saved me time to do more enjoyable things….like my taxes… :P
I practically spat my coffee all over my Kindle screen when I read 'Space Poochie ' and I made one of our 🐱 jump off the bed!
@@karahughes7074 Then my work here is done.
I have to go now, my planet needs me.
(Animation cell crudely pulled out of frame)
[Note: He died on the way back to his home planet]
I stopped at S2 ... and I berated a good and longtime friend of mine who is a total Trek fan, who before all this new stuff, would often whinge about how TOS was the absolute BEST Trek as the writing was top notch, the characters were the best, they built the universe and stuck to it, yadda yadda -- everything I agree with, but, I also have mad respect for TNG for doing such an awesome job of portraying that whole idea/universe/set of morals/characters/stories into a future that was really well done, portrayed, and acted. THEN he had the nerve to say he was watching and liking (putting up with) Discovery and I had to berate and mock him. Discovery is SOOOOO not any of that, holding to the ST universe, anything. Bunch of weeping women in charge? A totally out of shape fat and weepy ginger? Star Fleet was military and you had to be in shape. And there was no crying in {{baseball}} Star Fleet.
I’m really enjoying this review series. More than I ever enjoyed any episode of Discovery, and I was brought up in the late 80s and early 90s on TNG.
As for the writing, they seem to have employed the CW Arrowverse model. There’s:
The sometimes reluctant but brilliant leader
The tech one
The wisecracking one
The doctory one
The serious one
The love interest
The morally dubious one
These tropes could apply to any Arrowverse show. And now it applies to Star Trek.
Once upon a time, Star Trek was more like Shakespeare. It is not Supergirl.
Wow that Leonard quote is amazing I'm suprised I've never heard that!
It seems a lot of recent shows are written by people who have ideas for interesting individual scenes, but absolutely no idea how to string the scenes together into a full narrative.
“Meanwhile, thousands of miles away…” should be the default video editing transition audio option.
Never watched any of this series after S1E1 first 10 minutes, but I've found these videos far more satisfying than the show could have been. Your videos have achieved the transforming of something really useless into an entertaining show in itself.
Very kind, and I’m glad to hear it! It’d be much more entertaining for me if CBS didn’t keep taking the videos down…
Having watched every episode due to an ongoing family dare with my brother... I can safely say you are probably smarter for not having watched it. It's not the kind of bad that's so bad it's good... It's more intellectual cancer that reaffirms the depths humanity can sink into. This review is, at least some catharsis!!!
If you can imagine it, season one is still the best one. But it's a very low bar to clear so
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit agree completely. Gabriel Lorca was decent captain -- til they realized what he was and made him properly evil *sigh*. Of course that season was also mostly plagiarized so kudos to the writers they stole it from. After running out of that material we got klingons modified to have human bodies.... Kurtzman-"science" at its MOST ridiculous.
I came here because I found Little Platoon on Critical Drinkers channel. This is now my 4th video I've seen of his and I love YOUR videos good sir. I will most certainly keep watching them regardless of CBS and any other network and their bullshit. You make good content and have incredibly intelligent and well constructed views.
Nice to see another Critical Drinker fan here!
I love watching your reviews because it allows me to save myself countless hours of watching non stimulating shows with a lack of artistic merit while gaining a full knowledge of the high and low points that I was spared from. Well thought out critique of not only the characters, but the writing skill that stories are sadly lacking these days, it is good to know I can always depend on you to bring both to my screen. Perhaps one day, the entertainment industry will again be worth actually watching instead of absorbing your and similar youtube videos instead.
Yeah I think they had four episodes where Burnham is chasing down Book and at some point Book changes his mind for no reason.
Why does book want to destroy the DMA? Is he a revengeful child? Of course not. He was an empathetic, intelligent, peaceful person. The story makes no sense.
The prison story could make sense, but It is so superficially handled. If you want to see a better way, you might want to see DS9's Hard Time.
"This silly man has no idea of this series' meta, does he?" Genuinely one of the funniest things I've heard in weeks. 😂
I've well given up on Discovery but occasionally peaked in out of curiosity but was met with 70% of episode seemingly starring Jesus and President Strong Lesbian Clinton, 25% of Book unable to act and everything else in that 5%!
Also saw ending of season 4 which i look forward to hearing you roast it! ;)
It was worth to wait for this rant. What I seen is that these writers makes these blocks as we know shorter or longer as anybody would think, to mess with your feelings. It's been done in the block buster area it works. The horrific thing is that this idea of this 'switching tiktok' is broadly devastating our civilization anywhere on the planet. Therefor, you are doing much better than anybody - for addressing ideas in a comprehensive form' -from CBS or these selfcuddling turdholes. English is not my native language and I'm trying to keep up so it's hard, but very much fun as well. :) Sry for being long again. Sheit xd
Self-cuddling turdholes is an insult most native English speakers couldn’t have come up with, so there’s absolutely no need to apologise on that score - that’s brilliant! No need to apologise for the length, either; as you say, the obsession with short TikTok takes is basically cultural cancer. I make long videos, I love long comments!
Self cuddling turdholes!! 😂 your comment wins
Another aspect of the claim system is that it's not equally enforced . Major channels like late night talk host can air what ever they want. Even bloody clips of war and the like.
You clip their approved channel, and you get taken down for violence or encouraging bad things. Same content,two different rules.
10:16
I was playing a game while listening to this video and heard the line starting here. I knew instantly what the group in reference was and wondered what the visual was going to be.
Never could I have anticipated exactly what form "WW2 Bad Guys" was going to take, and I am now so gobsmacked I absolutely need to know what video it was taken from.
same, was not expecting anything like that
Great critique. I miss watching good 'Star Trek'.
Your channel deserves more love and subs. You are one of only a limited few who objectively review the s***** content that Hollywood is currently producing. There's a whole bunch of other people though that just hop on the anti-woke train and blame everything about women in the message. Maybe there's some there it's to those things but I think your criticisms go a lot deeper or a lot more thoughtful than other channels that claim to be critiquing the same type of medium.
Thank you for this episode, i loved it a lot! As a bonus I don't have to watch the actual STD episodes anymore
Well I'm very much binge listening to your vids on my commute to work and enjoying them immensely. I'm currently rewatching TNG on Netflix and enjoying it once again. The thing that struck me was how some of their moral lessons were not just episodic. I'm currently on season 2 and Doc Pulaski's interaction with Data has been irritating me. That was until we got to the episode 'Measure of a Man' and it became obvious not only has Pulaski's character been there to set it up all along, but then there's a beautiful bait and switch into a slavery analogy. I watched the clip in part 1 of how Disco handled the same dilemma and it made me so glad I'm not subscribed to Paramount+.
For the sake of clarity the original series had almost 75 episodes in three seasons so far Discovery hasn't even gotten to 75 episodes so in reality Discovery hasn't passed the Original Series in terms of episodes.
That’s true, and they’re not directly comparable. But Disco has had four complete seasons of a single, continuous story arc, with comparatively few distractions. That makes it *more* important to establish your central cast of characters.
@@TheLittlePlatoon I think DS9 was the first Star Trek show that really had one clearly defined overarching narrative, instead of non-linear series of episodes.
Leonard Nimoy is such a timeless treasure 🖖
Isn’t he jewish? 🤔
Him and shatter both
@@natty4316 what’s that have to do with anything
@@iriswaldenburger2315 are you jewish?
@@natty4316 none of your business and AGAIN what does it matter??
I'm loving all your Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged references. Especially to the movie I was sure practically no one watched.
I know it's an old video, but I do enjoy the reviews. Keep it up.
Am I the only one horrified by the idea that a useful amount of antimatter is just *hidden* in a cell? An _abandoned_ cell where its power cell is likely to run out?Good Lord. I guess parts of planets just randomly *blow up* in this universe? “Whoops! I guess Billy Bob forgot some antimatter. Aw shucks!”
There are people who say that everything is subjective. I hope those people are getting help.
Objectively: 2 + 2 = 4; a book that says 2 + 2 = 5 is a bad book. Plan 9 from Outer Space is a bad movie: there are scenes which switch back and forth in impossible ways between daylight and night darkness; when asked about this, director Ed Wood said that he didn't think the audience would notice 😃; this is objectively bad.
Old Trek, whatever its flaws, is objectively good: it set out to make the world a better place, and it succeeded ... probably beyond Gene Roddenberry's wildest dreams. Scientists, humanitarians, astronauts, doctors, philosophers, presidents, writers, etc, and ordinary people have been inspired by Old Trek to create things that benefit people. This is objectively good.
New Trek is objectively bad. It needlessly desecrates Old Trek's heroes and the values that they represent. New Trek promotes violence, selfishness, and bigotry: its anti-social nature is objectively bad.
One more thing: 50:16 and 50:23; stop calling me Shirley.
🥴
Wellllll… to be fair, TOS gets pretty close to Plan 9 every now and then. Still a legendary, great show, but it was a ‘60s show on a shoestring budget.
Don’t mind me. Just being pedantic.
Lively and lucid explication. Using The Wrath of Kahn’s soundtrack in the background is a nice touch 😊.
I'm just seeing your Trek videos right now. I've been with you, watching all your videos with anticipation, and I'm just seeing these today. Unreal. Love your work, especially the way you, with singular one minded clarity, make sure we get all the information big brother doesn't want the layman to know. Thanks for fighting for my sensibilities.
I can talk pretty fancy when I want to, but damn this fine gentleman here continues to astound me with his ability to weave words together
Won't watch any Trek: Discovery, (How about Dreck: Discovery?) - but I love these reviews. Amazed to learn the script repeats the same conversations and the same plot points. As with TLJ, the incompetence is just amazing. (Just thought of something - maybe the script suffers from "Groundhog Day Syndrome"!)
I'd be shocked if it didn't become Disney Trek, or Dizzy Trek.
The Expanse is the best modern Trek.
Truly enjoy your Star Trek content. Thank you for this.
I do appreciate the Little Kuriboh transitions
I've said repeatedly RE: 22:30 that season 3 needed to just follow several episodes or even the whole season of Book and Burnam having adventures separately before being reunited with Discovery a whole year later. Then follow Discovery without Burnam and those characters thing to do besides grin at Burnam for an hour. They could have done something clever with two timelines, if they wanted. But alas.
"So full of feelings they shit love hearts" aaaahahahahahaha
The collectors were cool, I actually could play Mass Effect 2 over the runtime of this show. Pretty sure it covered many of the same topics as Discovery except it was actually good.
UA-cam has a very bad DMCA and copyright abuse problem
That opening Hello There really got a smile out of me
Okay, I really want to see Dances with Smurfs 2: Revenge of the Cockatoo now that I've sat here for nearly five minutes straight laughing at that.
Your names for the characters are spot on.
I think one of the problems with a lot of the writers today is they are assigned these projects.
Thus they view them as homework assignments.
A task to complete and turn in "on time", no thought or reason or passion.
I think a lot of them do not have any love for the actual subject matter or properties.
And I think a lot of them are people that I used to RP with online that I used to scold for bad writing practices and they never could take the criticism...
Too bad they were still just literate enough to get writing jobs.
💯 this. It seems as if the checklists to check off in scripts are taught in writing courses to people who otherwise lack natural writing talent. The best they know about storytelling is how to complete the task as specified, all rest be damned
I'm setting up a Star Trek adventures campaign and getting the ship options done for the group is not worth. It's like playing with Legos.
I want to be included in those thanks!
And thank you back!
Much love from Germany
Well done! I enjoyed and watched in one sitting. I don't do that often.
The Obi-Wan "Hello There" meme will forever be funny to me.
I have learned to immediately download Little Platoon's reviews the moment I see them on YT, due to the crazy yeeting. So, @Little Platoon if you get one yeeted and somehow don't have your original saved, I've got copies. :-)
I learned the same lesson - all my videos have their own dedicated backup HDD. But I’ll definitely hit you up if it breaks!
@@TheLittlePlatoon Glad to help my friend! Your reviews are fantastic, love 'em. About 3 days before you appeared on one of the Drinkers' shows I emailed him to say he needed to check you out as you are so funny, learned, and amazing. Cheers!
I like your reviews. Thank you!
Correction. STD has had 4 half series. So in TNG terms we're at the end of season 2/start to mid of season 3.
"These people are so full of feelings that they shit Love Hearts" Your humour just cracks me up, and (yet again) made me spill my drink. Now i have to have some beer mats on the table when listening to your show🤣😅😅😆
Amazing content, thank you.
9:47 This part gets me everytime. I think hes about to tell me the legitimate name and he hits me with; "... her name is naan bread" as dry and casual as you like. It's what got me into Mauler aswell with "i think we'll call her... plank". Good stuff.
A bit late to the party here, but have now subscribed. Really well-written and delivered pieces on Discovery and will be checking out more of your channel. I haven't gone through many of the comments so I apologise if this has already been said, but is there also a political side to the hybrids, so that populations are now almost homogenous.
There are a lot of things wrong with STD. I still have watched it all though, since there is still a few things I like.
Among the things I liked:
* Too see what happened to the galaxy and all races in the far future. However, they did a quite lousy job there, we did not get to know much.
I like the united Vulcan/Romulan Ni'var though.
* I liked some of the male characters in the 32:nd century, like that older a bit mysterious man that interrogated Georgio. He seems cool and interesting.
Also the other bearded offical starfleet admiral (or whatever his rank was) who seems to be some kind of leader of starfleet.
* I thought the plots about a mystry to be solved in both season 3 and 4 was a bit interesting, but it ended very anticlimactic in both seasons. It was like a 10-year old had written the script.
Things I really dislike:
* Most characters that seems to be there only for their SJW score and representation. Most of them seems totally immature and emotionally unfit to be anywhere near a starfleet vessel.
People who are that mentally unstable needs years of therapy, not go to important missions in space.
* A total disregard for science. Yes, it is supposed to be science fiction and I can buy that they introduce some things like warp drive and so on we don't have today,
but they should not make mistakes and mess up what we do know today. For example, wtf is that galactic barrier at the edge of the galaxy supposed to be?
There is no barrier there that is hard to pass or something.
* The spore drive is also a complete really stupid concept. A hidden layer of spacemushrooms making ships able to teleport instantly? Really? That was the bet they could come up with?
* The characters are very unlikable and totally unrelatable, especially Burnham.
* Also I want to see a science fiction show of aliens and humans working together in various ways to achive things. Not episode after episode showing Burham to be the only true here saving the universe time after time.
* They really wasted the mystery both in season 3 (a trapped little scared baby accidentally destroyed the federation...) or in season 4 (oh, the super powerful aliens simple didn't know they were causing harm and they turned out to be super nice. That is the writing of a 8-year old..)
On the galaxy barrier bit, that has been in the Lore for years and it hard to get pass, theorise maybe done by the Q to shield the Milky way from a greater threat. But discovery blew that away.
@@Historyfan476AD Ah, I did not know that. In which series/movies did they mention that before?
@@TheIllerX Some of it is in books, but it is mentioned also in the OG and STGs. It there but you got to be keeping an eagle out for it. The Barrier does not fully stop crossing though, you just got to be able to hit a certain warp speed to go through it.
This video talks about the barriers quite well and could help you.
ua-cam.com/video/yf3_tl5lLvc/v-deo.html
I wish they'd have done more showing us what the races we're familiar with are doing in the 32nd century. What are the Klingons up to? How about the Cardassians and Ferengi? Are the Borg and Dominion still around?
I agree that the characters seem immature and overly emotional. There's a time for emotion and a time to do your duty. The number of times we're told time is critical but two characters stop to talk about their feelings is maddening.
I also agree that the diversity seems forced and unnatural. A lot of people seem to be there just to tick boxes. Gray didn't have a character beyond "is trans".
Thank you for having maintained your patience, integrity and perseverance. Watching this in Feb 24 is reassuring that it's remained up. Kudos.
Love and appreciation from Australia 👍🇦🇺
thank you for that, espescially the Nimoy clip. compare him to our current actors. i've depressed myself now, back to your vids, they'll cheer me up
What happened to the last premier date. Also it seems that the Discovery writers forgot that anything beyond the galactic rim. The Enterprise both NCC. 1701 and D version crossed galactic barriers multiple times. The barrier isn't negative energy it just doesn't register on scanners. Spock yelled negative on the sensors reading at all.
I went to check the video and discovered half the audio had disappeared somewhere between the export and upload processes. Probably for the best in the end as it allowed me to tidy up a couple of things!
Oh, yes, this review covers the galactic barrier thing in a bit more detail. Featuring space testicles…
@@TheLittlePlatoon well my last comment went about the 10C and how they were conspicuously similar to the ELS from Gundam 00 Awakening of the Trailblazer but I think that discussion would be best the other way around. If you do plan to do a Gundam 00 review.
Thanks for posting this thoughtful piece and explaining some of the YT rotten treatment of its content creator, contributors.
@50:48 I get the feeling they were uhh, "Pikachu-ing" the other characters to umm, "President Clinton's" speech partly due to the Mass Effect Shepard speech scenes where it cuts from him or her mid sentence soy I show the reactions of his squad and crew. I also get the feeling all these "feelings scenes" are basicall a low budget "copy and paste" of Mass Effect's "Loyalty Missions" too...
I'm only here because I was wondering if it was cancelled or not.
To be honest, the only thing that I like about the new stuff being produced, is people complaining about it. This really is an awful time in entertainment, and this isn't really entertainment, it's just bad propaganda.
I think we're witnessing the breakdown of these mediums.
I know I'm late to the party here but I think I can offer here is that the reason Book could have settled down and listed, and still make sense, is that to his knowledge the death star could disappear and reappear anywhere at any time. Him finding out it isn't unpredictable, and it will remain where it is in a harmless corner of space isn't necessarily antithetical to his belief. He's not giving up on his crusade, merely putting a hold on it.
"No." - Leonard Nimoy
Yopur observations are thorough and always in perspective. Now please have a go at Picard, epecially last season's Episode 7, which I consider the worst example of flagship a TV episode in years.
Thank you. You have the voice of a buttery god and I enjoy the exquisite sound of your radicalism❤
Orville does it better 🤣
is the president supposed to be a Cardassian? what the hell is going on? though after the redesign of the Klingons i dont even know why am i surprised?
I think she's half human, a quarter Bajoran, and a quarter Cardassian.
i love it, keep going
Appropos of nothing, but the actor playing Ruon Tarka looked familiar to me, but I've not seen Disco and had no idea what his name was, and so instead Googled "Guy from Star Trek Discovery with the weird thing on his face" which resulted in David Cronenberg's character being the top result.
Glasses. "Weird thing on his face" is glasses. We are in the dumbest timeline.
there is always heros ready to watch this shit and report for us ex -fans..thank you man!!!
What is wrong with the people at CBS? I will point out 2 examples, one more famous than the other: One is the writer of Star Trek 11 (Roberto Orci) who, when people offered fair criticism on plot and technique, in addition to explaining why 11 was not like the previous Star Trek they loved and wanted to see, called people shitty fans because you had to love that soulless creature that was 11 because it was Star Trek. He also said that he must know better, because Hollywood never dealt in nepotism where connections are more important than talent, since he is writing movies and people don't.
The other one, more personal, is on the Quora website, it is a CBS writer (fanfiction writer mostly) who, when others who know more of the franchise than he does (which is often) will berate them, insult them, and report them (abuse of guidelines, bullying (irony is palpable), report as a fake person). In essence, doing the same thing as Orci.
These egomaniacs, who make already narcissistic Trump a humble pious man, can't stand a challenge and therefore cannot improve themselves. And since they can't stand criticism, they go after anyone for any reason they can.
They should have called it, Star Trek: Self Discovery.
I gave up on this show after season one and I am happy to see my decision justified. Also, why is the lighting on the show so dark? Even the JJ movies knew to keep the ship lights bright.
Nemoy's argument for the Neck Pinch creation is an explanation of non-violent subduing of a violent person, no one injured, no one dead, no one suffering, just one person unconscious.
The voice of the interviewer saying that he's being violent is female and I'm not shocked at the reaction to a non-violent response being seen as violent as it's outside the box thinking being presented as a good thing.
There's a response that should've happened there that Spock would not have used.
"Programmable Anti-Matter", I am confident that some of these (Science) things were never spoken out loud until the actual day of filming.
thank god for you. been too long since i've listened to an erudite fop cut something into little pieces. very comfy
I think the mushroom jump is the stupidest thing I have ever seen
The assertion that people make about "all art is subjective" is a very lazy argument, and is merely a labelist's (TM) way of dismissing valid and thoughtful criticism. I would also add, that the argument is not applicable in this case, as these shows are not art, but products designed to be consumed. Art, in my opinion, can be classified as any creative work designed to help define, elevate, or provoke discussion of an element (or several elements) of the Human experience. These shows fall far short of doing any of that.
41:56 - 42:00 you could say he needed... a flashforward 😅
I'm guessing that Part 3 got Cancelled?
I regularly hear the argument from the Left that "Star Trek has always been woke". That's like saying "You drank a beer thirty years ago, why don't you want this absinthe, they're both alcohol". Star Trek did push leftist diversity themes, but it still had straight white men in the crew, which allowed a straight white male audience to at least feel like they were thinking through issues on their own. Having those issues pushed - far more explicitly - by an all-black, all-gay cast (I think there's a token white guy nodding his head) makes it feel like you're being brow-beaten. It now requires a kind of racial masochism to enjoy it.
The clip of Nimoy talking about violence in Star Trek should've been mandatory viewing at CBS. The thing with the original Star Trek series is that Roddenberry hired actors who understood and liked the show's philosophy ... which is the opposite of the way creatives seem to be hired for most modern shows, where ignorance of - and even hatred for - the IP seem to be advantageous.
I dunno why CBS was complaining. If not for this vid I wouldn't have known STD was still on. Seriously, I never hear anyone talk about it unless it's to give it a bad review.
The nicknames... I love them
Thanks CBS for retaining this till my current need for entertainment!
Start Drek Disco truly is liquified human excrement. I watched it, wanted it to be better than it was ever going to be, was put off with the vague whispers of bigotry and self-satisfied smugness of the show's superiority over its fans. I finally gave up on it, and on Prickard, too. Sad, just totally sad. Carry on, noble warriors of the channel, I have your back.
The criticism that i got in grad school counseling was being a little too accepting of other people's "issues", it seems like all issues are five nowadays and it doesn't matter how they impact society, family or duty
Oh. OK. So You have a relative whose name is "Our thanks to Patrons". Nice!
PS.: Sorry, absurd silliness is the only reasonable way to deal with the madness called 'scovery. Well, at least that's how I deal with it. Works like a charm. 🙂
Lol. I only noticed that at the end of the premiere. Terribly placed end cards! I’ll be moving those this evening.
The only true cultural and artistic value of all of STD is all the video critiques of it.
Lovely video my friend, just one criticism, could you please introduce a wine bottle count that we need to watch your videos, this would be most appreciated, thank you again for your work.
Thanks. God she looks crazy in the thumbnail image. ( space jesus)
CBS viacom strikes again, video becomes unavailable right in the middle of watching it.
What was the clip just after ten minutes in from? I don't recognize it.
I've never even gotten into Star Trek (new or old) but at this point I'd listen to Little Platoon talk shit about my own mother in a 2 hr, 2 parter 🤣🤣🤣
Part 3 hasnt come out? Or is being hold captive by CBS?
The number of reviews I'm watching in lieu of the actual shows keep increasing. Why do they keep ruining my favorite fandoms?
I have a question, how does the technology work? And why does it look more futuristic then the Next Generation era?
"Can you think of a heavier job than a psychologist on Discovery" hahaha!